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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Aspen Education Group => Topic started by: Troll Control on July 14, 2010, 04:20:31 PM
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Shocking report by Oregon state authorities detailing systematic child abuse by Aspen Education (http://http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
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Shocking report by Oregon state authorities detailing systematic child abuse by Aspen Education (http://http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
:eek: :poison:
search the report for the words "abused" , "Abuse" or "100%" and nothing comes up. You must be talking about another document.
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Shocking report by Oregon state authorities detailing systematic child abuse by Aspen Education (http://http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
:eek: :poison:
search the report for the words "abused" , "Abuse" or "100%" and nothing comes up. You must be talking about another document.
The following showed up on the first page; I didn't even get any further. I believe the word "abuse" is mentioned three times in these two paragraphs:
Findings:
DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services as follows...[/list]
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Shocking report by Oregon state authorities detailing systematic child abuse by Aspen Education (http://http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
:eek: :poison:
search the report for the words "abused" , "Abuse" or "100%" and nothing comes up. You must be talking about another document.
This showed up on the first page; I didn't even get any further:
Findings:
DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services as follows...[/list]
Thanks Ursus, I read the report and the allegations are awful at best. But here is what is being disputed:
Oregon authorities closed an Aspen Education program, Mount Bachelor Academy (the "sister school" of the Academy at Swift River), citing an abuse rate of "100%" concluding in their investigation that the children were subjected to "ritualized sexual abuse" at the hands of the staff and at least one child was raped with the rape going unreported to the authorities, a crime in and of itself.
Think about it. Authorities, not some "Fornits poster extremist," published this in their report - 100% of children were abused by MBA. This same "program" is run at all Aspen Education facilities. They abuse thousands of children, by legal definition, as charged by state authorites. And that's just one company.
I have asked for these quotes he posted to be linked to some sort of report but he keeps running off. I am willing to wait and not jump to judgment. If you find anything in this area I would appreciate you posting it. I would just like to have them for my archives and for reference.
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Nothing to see here. No abuse whatsoever, people.
Whooter don't read too good.
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DJ is still bitching about another school in Oregon to change Morgan's parents mind about sending her to AAS. WOW!!! DJ STFU
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This has nothing to do with Morgan or her parents, Pile of Shit. This is an official state report that shows that Aspen Education programs are rife with systemic abuse.
If you cared about the welfare of children, you wouldn't call this "bitching about a program," Pile of Shit. This is documented, proven indelible proof that Aspen Education's program itself is, in fact, nothing more than child abuse. If you don't like the report findings, I suggest you take it up with the state of Oregon and offer your immeasurable wisdom about the abuse of children in the care of Aspen Education.
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This has nothing to do with Morgan or her parents, Pile of Shit. This is an official state report that shows that Aspen Education programs are rife with systemic abuse.
If you cared about the welfare of children, you wouldn't call this "bitching about a program," Pile of Shit. This is documented, proven indelible proof that Aspen Education's program itself is, in fact, nothing more than child abuse. If you don't like the report findings, I suggest you take it up with the state of Oregon and offer your immeasurable wisdom about the abuse of children in the care of Aspen Education.
DJ cry me a fuckng river. You been bitching about Mount Bachelor Academy/Aspen to ruffle Whooter's feathers for the longest time. Move on little man. It's really time to STFU and stop making an ass out of yourself DJ.
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No, Pile of Shit, I post about Aspen Education abusing children because it's a travesty and a shame.
Whooter happens to shill for Aspen, so he gets caught up in the mix when he continues to deny any abuse has ever happened. If you read this thread, you'd see Whooter volunteered himself into it and Ursus made him look like an idiot inside of about five minutes. All I did was post the link to the report about Aspen's systematic child abuse.
Maybe you should take some time and visit your local literacy volunteer, Pile of Shit. There's no shame in being the one in ten of American adults who are functionally illiterate. Pehaps then you would be able to participate in the dialogue about Aspen Education's history of abusing children.
Or you could just keep trolling I suppose.
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This has nothing to do with Morgan or her parents, Pile of Shit. This is an official state report that shows that Aspen Education programs are rife with systemic abuse.
If you cared about the welfare of children, you wouldn't call this "bitching about a program," Pile of Shit. This is documented, proven indelible proof that Aspen Education's program itself is, in fact, nothing more than child abuse. If you don't like the report findings, I suggest you take it up with the state of Oregon and offer your immeasurable wisdom about the abuse of children in the care of Aspen Education.
DJ cry me a fuckng river. You been bitching about Mount Bachelor Academy/Aspen to ruffle Whooter's feathers for the longest time. Move on little man. It's really time to STFU and stop making an ass out of yourself DJ.
Its pretty much over. After I catch him in his lie he typically moves on. He will flail a little longer but he knows I caught him he has no link to support his words so he will take shots at me for awhile and it will die down, its only a matter of time. I expect he will start up the John Reuben connection again next or maybe my trip to Chicago. That usually keeps him busy or maybe back to the PM he made up and posts on his footer (one of my personal favorites).
An interesting way for a self proclaimed PhD to spend his time being humiliated by people he doesn't know.
Latest DJ comment to go down in flames:
Authorities, not some "Fornits poster extremist," published this in their report - 100% of children were abused by MBA.
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Shocking report by Oregon state authorities detailing systematic child abuse by Aspen Education (http://http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
:eek: :poison:
search the report for the words "abused" , "Abuse" or "100%" and nothing comes up. You must be talking about another document.
The following showed up on the first page; I didn't even get any further. I believe the word "abuse" is mentioned three times in these two paragraphs:
Findings:
DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services as follows...[/list]
That dang state report just won't disappear fast enough for the program trolls here today. They will do anything to change the subject or bury the topic. But it just won't go away, will it?
search the report for the words "abused" , "Abuse" or "100%" and nothing comes up. You must be talking about another document.
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:deal: The report tells a different story.
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So DJ.. where does it say:
"Authorities, not some "Fornits poster extremist," published this in their report - 100% of children were abused by MBA."
This was your statement. We all agree that MBA was closed down for abuse allegations. But where did your statement come from? Just curious. Did you make it up or was there another report.
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I just searched this thread and I didn't say anything resembling your post. And my search feature actually works ; )
I believe the topic of his thread is Aspen Education's systematic, horrifying abuse of children. The report is astonishing in its fact finding about the breadth and scope of child abuse by Aspen's staff.
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I just searched this thread and I didn't say anything resembling your post. And my search feature actually works ; )
Here is where you stated that.....Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=369715#p369715)
"Authorities, not some "Fornits poster extremist," published this in their report - 100% of children were abused by MBA."
Was this made up or is there a different report?
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Whooter you will read about DJ getting arrested for stalking someone and shake your head. You will say, "I knew DJ never changed!" He is like Niles and Pile of Dead Kids. Thery are all are mentally challenged, stalk people (Niles & Pile - Children / DJ - other adults including you), lie about their qualifications and live the lie on this website.
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Shocking report by Oregon state authorities detailing systematic child abuse by Aspen Education (http://http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
:eek: :poison:
search the report for the words "abused" , "Abuse" or "100%" and nothing comes up. You must be talking about another document.
This showed up on the first page; I didn't even get any further:
Findings:
DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services as follows...[/list]
Thanks Ursus, I read the report and the allegations are awful at best. But here is what is being disputed:
Oregon authorities closed an Aspen Education program, Mount Bachelor Academy (the "sister school" of the Academy at Swift River), citing an abuse rate of "100%" concluding in their investigation that the children were subjected to "ritualized sexual abuse" at the hands of the staff and at least one child was raped with the rape going unreported to the authorities, a crime in and of itself.
Think about it. Authorities, not some "Fornits poster extremist," published this in their report - 100% of children were abused by MBA. This same "program" is run at all Aspen Education facilities. They abuse thousands of children, by legal definition, as charged by state authorites. And that's just one company.
I have asked for these quotes he posted to be linked to some sort of report but he keeps running off. I am willing to wait and not jump to judgment. If you find anything in this area I would appreciate you posting it. I would just like to have them for my archives and for reference.
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Indeed, the report conveys 100% of “students” at Mount Bachelor Academy were subject to abuse as the policies of MBA were abuse under Oregon law.
http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/do ... n_2009.pdf (http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
“”MBA violated OAR in that MBA required students in an emotional growth curriculum included but not limited to the lifesteps program that was punitive humiliating degrading and traumatizing[/u]
“”The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep….
All students were required to participate in the lifesteps program and other emotional growth curriculum.””[/b]
As ”all students” (captives, really) were required to participate in the “emotional growth” curriculum and “all students” were exposed to MBA policies, that's a 100% abuse rate, according to the report.
But, really, keep denying the black and white. That merely keeps the state’s findings (not mere "allegations") that MBA subjected teens to ritualized sexual abuse and a myriad other torments at the top of the forum with tons of hits. Your deceptiveness showcases the deceptive nature of the Aspen Education Group Cult.
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Authorities, not some "Fornits poster extremist," published this in their report - 100% of children were abused by MBA.
Thanks Keenex, I also went over the report and like you never found where it never says "100% of children were abused by MBA". Once again this shows he makes things up,unless this line is published in another report. We will give him time to come up with it. It possibly could be a Fornits poster extremist after all?
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Thank you, kleenex, for pointing out that the report says Lifesteps is child abuse and "all children were forced to participate in Lifesteps."
For the literacy-challenged, child abuse apologist shills "all" does in fact mean "100%". You can look it up if you don't believe it ; )
Looks like the Aspen shills have lost yet another debate with another weak show. Let the derailment trolling begin full force!
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This shows, once again, that we need to ask for links so that we call them on these exaggerations. I did a Google search for "100% of children were abused at MBA" and as I expected nothing came up in any report.
DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
I believe there were more kids in the school than 8. If there were only 8 kids in the school at the time then we could say 100% of the kids were abused, but at this time there are only 8 allegations which have been substantiated.
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Really what you're saying is...
a. you clearly have no idea how a search engine works
and/or
b. you don't know how to read
kleenex and Ursus easily found the items which you could not. Clearly they are of superior intellect and/or honesty.
For example:
“MBA violated OAR in that MBA required students in an emotional growth curriculum included but not limited to the lifesteps program that was punitive humiliating degrading and traumatizing.”
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“All students were required to participate in the lifesteps program and other emotional growth curriculum.”
Lifesteps and the EG program are child abuse and all children were required to endure this child abuse. Seems pretty obvious in the report. "1 plus 1 equals 2." :beat:
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Indeed, the report conveys 100% of “students” at Mount Bachelor Academy were subject to abuse as the policies of MBA were abuse under Oregon law.
http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/do ... n_2009.pdf (http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
“”MBA violated OAR in that MBA required students in an emotional growth curriculum included but not limited to the lifesteps program that was punitive humiliating degrading and traumatizing
“”The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep….[/u]
All students were required to participate in the lifesteps program and other emotional growth curriculum.””
As ”all students” (captives, really) were required to participate in the “emotional growth” curriculum and “all students” were exposed to MBA policies, that's a 100% abuse rate, according to the report.[/b]
But, really, keep denying the black and white. That merely keeps the state’s findings (not mere "allegations") that MBA subjected teens to ritualized sexual abuse and a myriad other torments at the top of the forum with tons of hits. Your deceptiveness showcases the deceptive nature of the Aspen Education Group Cult.
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That's really what it all boils down to. The very methods these programs use (LGATs, peer pressure, confrontational/attack "therapy") ARE ABUSIVE IN AND OF THEMSELVES!!!!. That's what does the psychic and emotional damage. That's what makes the damage so deep and lasting. That's why so many of us end up being diagnosed with PTSD. That's why so many of us have struggled or are still struggling to find our way in life. They pretty much took an egg scrambler to our psyches.
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Anne you didn't have an original thought in your reply. WOW!!!
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So true, Anne. Here's some more about the investigation that showed Aspen Education systematically abuses children in their care:
November 2, 2009
Background Information: Mt. Bachelor Academy
Children, Adults and Families Division, Oregon Department of Human Services
Investigations conducted by the Oregon Department of Human Services at Mt. Bachelor Academy (MBA), a therapeutic boarding school located near Prineville, have resulted in nine substantiated findings of child abuse and neglect against the school's leadership and therapeutic program.
As a result of the abuse investigation and violations of Oregon’s licensing standards, the state has ordered Mt. Bachelor Academy to temporarily cease all therapeutic, educational and residential services to children until further notice.
The abuse and neglect findings centered on the program as a whole, as well as the school’s Executive Director, and involved five children who attended Mt. Bachelor Academy during 2007-2009. The results of the investigation are being provided to local law enforcement officials.
The investigation was conducted by the Office of Investigation and Training (OIT) at DHS. Investigators with OIT reported that all students at MBA were required to participate in “emotional growth” workshops, called Lifesteps, which included activities that were coercive, intimidating and humiliating -- including sexualized role play and reenactment of past traumatic events, such as prior physical or sexual abuse.
While the initial reports described concerns about Lifesteps, the investigation ultimately revealed serious safety concerns about MBA’s curriculum and program as a whole. The experience of the five students was consistent with that of other children enrolled at the school. The report concluded that the experiences of “these five youth are exemplars of the program's treatment of its students as a whole."
As a result of the OIT investigation, DHS Children, Adults and Families Residential Treatment Services and Licensing found violations of state licensing standards for therapeutic boarding schools, and state officials will require MBA to cease providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.
The licensing program determined in its investigation that there are conditions present that immediately endanger the health and safety of the children enrolled at MBA. The program found that MBA’s methods of educational instruction, emotional and behavioral intervention and daily interaction with students create an immediate threat which places all children at risk of harm.
Further, the investigation revealed that MBA has subjected children to Lifestep workshops as a therapy technique that is harmful and damaging to their health or welfare. In addition, that MBA has not provided the therapeutic treatment necessary for children to overcome or improve with substance abuse issues, mental health issues, eating disorders and other issues, nor provided qualified staff to treat such conditions.
The substantiated incidents of abuse or neglect are shown below:
• Mt. Bachelor Academy Executive Director neglected the care of four children by failing to ensure individualized and therapeutic treatment plans were developed to address past abuse and significant emotional and behavioral issues.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a child in 2007 by requiring the child to engage in sexualized role play in front of staff and peers.
• The Mount Bachelor program abused a second child in 2009 by requiring the child to make obscene and self-degrading comments out loud, in front of staff and peers. In addition, the Mount Bachelor program neglected the same child during 2008-2009 by failing to provide adequate medical care and supervision.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program neglected a third child in 2009, by failing to provide adequate supervision during an international trip.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a fourth child in 2008 by requiring the child to engage in degrading activities such as acting out sexualized role play and physical abuse, and by being subjected to obscene and degrading comments by staff in front of other staff and peers.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a fifth child during 2009 by requiring and/or permitting staff to use derogatory names, phrases, ridicule and harassment.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program neglected five children between 2007 and 2009 by failing to provide individualized treatment to meet their diagnosed mental health needs.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused five children between 2007 and 2009 by requiring them to engage in activities that were coercive, intimidating, harassing, and/or humiliating.
The substantiated incidents meet Oregon's legal definition of child abuse because they were inconsistent with recommended and appropriate treatment or care, used derogatory names/phrases, profanity, ridicule, harassment, coercion, and/or intimidation that was likely to endanger the child's health or welfare. In addition, the activities subjected children to a substantial risk of harm to their health or welfare, and the adults failed to supervise or intervene when the child needed assistance or care, in an activity that was likely to endanger their health or welfare.
An expert in the field of child and adolescent psychiatry consulted by DHS as part of the investigation concluded: "In general, coercive, degrading and humiliating treatment is harmful to young people, especially those with psychological vulnerabilities. Young people (male and female) who have been victims of abuse often hold themselves responsible for the abuse, and develop sexualized behavior for reasons they often don't understand. To confront them and humiliate them about these behaviors in an effort to force them to see themselves more clearly and consequently change their behavior can be very destructive. It has the risk of reinforcing self-blame and self-loathing attitudes already present in traumatized individuals. It is essentially retraumatizing."
Today's report also includes a substantiated allegation of child abuse against the Executive Director of MBA as "the individual responsible for delivery of therapeutic care to MBA students.” In that role, the Executive Director “administers through staff an ‘emotional growth’ curriculum in which all students must participate regardless of their emotional, behavioral or mental health needs, and regardless of their own trauma histories. This curriculum is delivered by staff who are not trained to treat the broad range of issues the children bring, and who routinely degrade and humiliate them.” The report concludes that the Executive Director, “knew or should have known what happens to students in [the] program.”
Mt. Bachelor Academy is a licensed Therapeutic Boarding School, located in a rural area, 26 miles east of Prineville, Oregon, licensed originally in 1988. The school admits both male and female students who are from age 14 to 17.5 at the time of admission, although some children are admitted pursuant to an exception as young as age 13. The total capacity is 125 students and the average length of stay is 14-16 months. Tuition is $6,400 a month with an additional up front, one time $2,200 enrollment fee. Other service fees are not included. In 2008, Mt. Bachelor was reorganized and became a program of Aspen Education Group. Aspen was recently acquired by CRC Health Group, Inc. In March of 2009, MBA had approximately 77 staff and 88 boarding students.
Last March, the state received reports of child abuse against Mt. Bachelor Academy, initially concerning the Lifesteps program at MBA. OIT is a division of DHS that investigates allegations of abuse by paid staff in various therapeutic or treatment settings, and OIT handled the investigation of the reports of abuse at MBA. There were two investigators primarily assigned to go to Prineville and interview people on campus. In addition, the office used three other investigators to conduct witness interviews of people in- and out-of-state. The investigators conducted interviews involving 65 witnesses, including MBA students and staff, along with licensed therapists familiar with individual students. Investigators consulted with a medical expert certified in Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and they reviewed documents and photographed materials used as part of the MBA therapy program.
At the same time, the DHS Licensing program investigated standards for health and safety and looked at the school's compliance with Oregon Administrative Rules related to their license as a therapeutic boarding school. Licensing notified MBA that they were prohibited from conducting their own investigation into the allegations of abuse reported to have occurred; prohibited from destroying or otherwise concealing school or student records; prohibited from disciplining or threatening discipline to students interviewed during the investigation; prohibited from conducting Lifesteps activities until further notice. Parents of students were notified of the investigation.
A "Therapeutic boarding school" is a program that is primarily a school and not a residential care agency (as defined in OAR 413-215-0506). Therapeutic boarding schools are licensed to provide both educational services and care to children for 24 hours a day and hold themselves out as serving children with emotional or behavioral problems by providing therapeutic services or assuring that children receive therapeutic services.
So, basically, in 2008 this program became part of Aspen Education and within one year was found to be systematically abusing all of the children in its care and getting shut down. Aspen's programs are designed this way and implemented this way, causing massive trauma to its abused and neglected victims.
PARENTS BEWARE ASPEN EDUCATION PROGRAMS. :poison: :suicide:
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Investigations conducted by the Oregon Department of Human Services at Mt. Bachelor Academy (MBA), a therapeutic boarding school located near Prineville, have resulted in nine substantiated findings of child abuse and neglect against the school's leadership and therapeutic program.
So they found 9 substantiated findings which means the rest are awaiting review.
I believe there were about 90 children there at the time.
so we are looking at about 10%... So you are off by one order of magnitude or maybe you dropped a zero by mistake. This is why I typically insist on a link of some sort.
Let us know when they substantiate the rest. It will be interesting to see how many in total there were. It will not go below nine but the number could rise
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FORNITS: KEEP BEATING THE MT. BACHELOR ACADEMY ABUSED PEOPLE DRUM! WE KNOW YOU CANN'T FIND ANOTHER SCHOOL TO SLANDER. WOW!!!
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“”MBA violated OAR in that MBA required students in an emotional growth curriculum included but not limited to the lifesteps program that was punitive humiliating degrading and traumatizing
“”The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep….
All students were required to participate in the lifesteps program and other emotional growth curriculum.””
It's really all that needs to be said and what I've been saying for years now. The methods they use are, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, abusive. Period. No matter how glossy the brochures, no matter how good the spin Whooter likes to try and put on it....the very methods used to bring about whatever change these parents are looking for are abusive.
That's what does the psychic and emotional damage. That's what makes the damage so deep and lasting. That's why so many of us end up being diagnosed with PTSD. That's why so many of us have struggled or are still struggling to find our way in life. They pretty much took an egg scrambler to our psyches.
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“”MBA violated OAR in that MBA required students in an emotional growth curriculum included but not limited to the lifesteps program that was punitive humiliating degrading and traumatizing
“”The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep….
All students were required to participate in the lifesteps program and other emotional growth curriculum.””
It's really all that needs to be said and what I've been saying for years now. The methods they use are, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, abusive. Period. No matter how glossy the brochures, no matter how good the spin Whooter likes to try and put on it....the very methods used to bring about whatever change these parents are looking for are abusive.
That's what does the psychic and emotional damage. That's what makes the damage so deep and lasting. That's why so many of us end up being diagnosed with PTSD. That's why so many of us have struggled or are still struggling to find our way in life. They pretty much took an egg scrambler to our psyches.
FORNITS: KEEP BEATING THE MT. BACHELOR ACADEMY ABUSED PEOPLE DRUM! WE KNOW YOU CANN'T FIND ANOTHER SCHOOL TO SLANDER. WOW!!!
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“”MBA violated OAR in that MBA required students in an emotional growth curriculum included but not limited to the lifesteps program that was punitive humiliating degrading and traumatizing
“”The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep….
All students were required to participate in the lifesteps program and other emotional growth curriculum.””
It's really all that needs to be said and what I've been saying for years now. The methods they use are, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, abusive. Period. No matter how glossy the brochures, no matter how good the spin Whooter likes to try and put on it....the very methods used to bring about whatever change these parents are looking for are abusive.
That's what does the psychic and emotional damage. That's what makes the damage so deep and lasting. That's why so many of us end up being diagnosed with PTSD. That's why so many of us have struggled or are still struggling to find our way in life. They pretty much took an egg scrambler to our psyches.
No spin. You just have to read the report:
Investigations conducted by the Oregon Department of Human Services ....have resulted in nine substantiated findings of child abuse and neglect against the school's leadership and therapeutic program.
The rest have not been substantiated yet. It may be 100%, but we just dont know yet.
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“”MBA violated OAR in that MBA required students in an emotional growth curriculum included but not limited to the lifesteps program that was punitive humiliating degrading and traumatizing
“”The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep….
All students were required to participate in the lifesteps program and other emotional growth curriculum.””
It's really all that needs to be said and what I've been saying for years now. The methods they use are, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, abusive. Period. No matter how glossy the brochures, no matter how good the spin Whooter likes to try and put on it....the very methods used to bring about whatever change these parents are looking for are abusive.
That's what does the psychic and emotional damage. That's what makes the damage so deep and lasting. That's why so many of us end up being diagnosed with PTSD. That's why so many of us have struggled or are still struggling to find our way in life. They pretty much took an egg scrambler to our psyches.
I can't believe I have to post this; that anyone could be or play this dumb, but here we go...
Definition of "all" (http://http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/all). Synonym: every.
"All children" were subject to lifesteps which is child abuse per the report. "All" means "100% of a given group." 100% of the kids were abused.
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“”MBA violated OAR in that MBA required students in an emotional growth curriculum included but not limited to the lifesteps program that was punitive humiliating degrading and traumatizing
“”The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep….
All students were required to participate in the lifesteps program and other emotional growth curriculum.””
It's really all that needs to be said and what I've been saying for years now. The methods they use are, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, abusive. Period. No matter how glossy the brochures, no matter how good the spin Whooter likes to try and put on it....the very methods used to bring about whatever change these parents are looking for are abusive.
That's what does the psychic and emotional damage. That's what makes the damage so deep and lasting. That's why so many of us end up being diagnosed with PTSD. That's why so many of us have struggled or are still struggling to find our way in life. They pretty much took an egg scrambler to our psyches.
I can't believe I have to post this; that anyone could be or play this dumb, but here we go...
Definition of "all" (http://http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/all). Synonym: every.
"All children" were subject to lifesteps which is child abuse per the report. "All" means "100% of a given group." 100% of the kids were abused.
I agree with you except that they only substantiated 9 accounts of abuse, not all and not 100%. They have not substantiated the rest as of yet. But at some point when/if they do just put up a link and we will take a look.
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I see you still haven't read the report. :lala:
They substantiated nine cases of abuse which spurred further investigation. The "further investigation" concluded the program itself is abusive and that all children were forced to participate in the program.
The program shills have suffered what is commonly called a "technical knock out" or "TKO." Their only defense of Aspen
Education's systematic abuse problem now seems to be feigning ignorance or real illiteracy. One or the other.
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I see you still haven't read the report. :lala:
They substantiated nine cases of abuse which spurred further investigation. The "further investigation" concluded the program itself is abusive and that all children were forced to participate in the program.
The program shills have suffered what is commonly called a "technical knock out" or "TKO." Their only defense of Aspen
Education's systematic abuse problem now seems to be feigning ignorance or real illiteracy. One or the other.
If all the reports (findings) were substantiated they would have put it in their report. But they were very clear to point out that only 9 have been substantiated, according to the report. The school had about 90 kids so if they are all substantiated then I would agree with you that it was 100%, but so far only nine have been.
If you have a later report maybe that would indicate that more abuse was confirmed. We have to go with the report and how many cases have been substantiated.
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I believe there were upwards of 25 violations of law enumerated. The "Ultimate Finding of Facts" section declares that MBA was a "danger to all students." The report also conlcuded that the program itself is child abuse and that all kids were forced to participate in the program. Therefore, all students were abused. It ain't that deep.
The expert witness' testimony stated that the children on behalf of whom the investigation was launched were "exemplars of all students' experiences" as well. Meaning all kids were subject to abuse.
The report uses the words "all students" and "all children" repetitively.
Child abuse apologists are in favor of continuing child abuse. There's no defense for it, but here they are, trolling in full force, advocating the continuing abuse of children for profit. It's sad and disgusting that some people feel "children are products" and "children have no rights," dehumanizing children and intimating that they somehow deserve to be abused for conformity's sake and corporate profit.
Is it really worth destroying children's lives in order to protect monetary interests? Some people here support just that notion. Some posters here have "fiduciary duties" to programs, and the bottom line is the sole concern. Sad, but true.
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
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Dysfunction Junction is still pissing and moaining about ASPEN? WOW!!! Where is Anne? She isn't supporting DJ. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: Where is Ursus? He isn't supporting DJ. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: DJ people don't care about your ASPEN jihad anymore.
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That's very sad, Pile of Shit. I'm sorry to hear that you believe there's nothing wrong with being silent about child abuse while a company like Aspen runs a program in all of their facilities that was ruled by state authorities to be child abuse. Aspen Education's systematic child abuse program is abhorrent and disgusting.
Some people care about the welfare of children, and some don't, I guess. It's a disturbing thought, but Pile of Shit and Whooter both believe that child abuse should be swept under the rug instead of confronted by legal authorities. I feel bad for these soulless people and for the kids whom they allow to be neglected and abused through their silence and complicity.
I suppose when your belief system includes "children have no rights" and "children are products" you'd be inclined to support abuse if it brings in profits for the firms to which you have "fiduciary duties." Maybe if it were called "product abuse" there would be more of an outcry about this systemic problem at Aspen faciities.
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Here's that Order of Emergency License Suspension for MBA that DJ provided a link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803#p369828) for earlier in this thread, transcribed out for better perusal:
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BEFORE THE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS
STATE OF OREGON
for the
DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES[/list]
In the Matter of the
Therapeutic Boarding School License of
Mt. Bachelor Academy,
a program of the Aspen Education Group,
owned by CRC Health Group, Inc.
Licensee[/list][/list]
ORDER OF EMERGENCY LICENSE SUSPENSION AND NOTICE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING (http://http://www.cafety.org/images/stories/documents/MBA/mba_emergency%20suspension_2009.pdf)
By order of the Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) your license to operate a therapeutic boarding school is hereby suspended today, November 2, 2009. Effective immediately you must stop providing all services, educational or therapeutic, to children until further order of DHS.
This order is made pursuant to ORS 183.430(2), which authorize DHS to enter an emergency order of license suspension when it finds that the continued practice by Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) presents a serious danger to the public health or safety and sets forth specific reasons for such finding. This order is also made pursuant to ORS 418.327, including but not limited to subsections (3), (5) and (7), which authorize DHS to issue an interim order requiring MBA to cease all therapeutic, educational and residential services if DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA.
Findings:
DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services as follows:
1. Mt. Bachelor Academy is a licensed Therapeutic Boarding School, located in a rural area, 26 miles east of Prineville, Oregon, licensed originally in 1988.
2. MBA admits both male and female students who are from age 14 to 17.5 at the time of admission. The total capacity is 125 students and the length of stay is 14-16 months.
3. In 1998, Mt. Bachelor was re-organized and became a program of Aspen Education group. Aspen was recently acquired by CRC Health Group, Inc.
4. In March of 2009, MBA had approximately 77 staff and 88 boarding students.
5. DHS investigated and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g), and (h).
6. DHS investigated and determined that an allegation of abuse was substantiated against MBA's Executive Director in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(h).
7. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0076(3) regarding behavior management in that MBA required students to engage in an "emotional growth" curriculum included, but was not limited to, the Lifesteps program that was punitive, humiliating, degrading and traumatizing. The "emotional growth" curriculum included, but was not limited to, sexualized role play in front of staff and peers, requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers, requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers, permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names, phrases and ridicule of students, and deprivation of sleep.
8. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0076(6) regarding discipline policy in that students were required to engage in self studies and solo experiences for violating behavioral expectations. Self studies and solo experiences included, but were not limited to, strenuous work projects and camping alone on an island and in inclement weather conditions.
9. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0076(6) regarding discipline policy, as indicated in MBA's parent handbook, in that students' access to the bathroom during class time was withheld and/or resulted in punishment for breaking class rules. In addition, students were required to do push-ups and/or run laps as a consequence for breaking class rules.
10. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0076(6) regarding discipline policy in that an entire group of students was punished for the behavior of one student.
11. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0076(6) regarding discipline policy in that MBA utilized bans as a consequence for inappropriate behavior. Bans were reported to last up to a week or longer and include the student not being allowed to talk, touch, or look at others and face the wall during meal time.
12. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0076(6) regarding discipline policy in that students communication with parents was routinely censored as a means of controlling behavior. It was reported phone calls were ended if a student complained, students were told not to divulge any aspect of the "emotional growth" curriculum during telephone calls, and both content and ability to call were used a disciplinary measure.
13. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0606 regarding therapeutic services in that students were not provided adequate therapeutic services for their diagnosis or substance abuse issues, nor were students provided individualized treatment plans or services to address their significant needs. All students were required to participate in the Lifesteps program and other "emotional growth" curriculum regardless of the students' needs or vulnerabilities. Despite DHS' stated concerns, MBA recently introduced what it calls the Transitions program, which closely mirrors the Lifesteps program in that it contains the same deficiencies with respect to requiring participation regardless of students' needs or vulnerabilities.
14. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0681(2) regarding treatment planning in that MBA failed to develop and deliver individualized services to students. All students were required to participate in the Lifesteps program and other "emotional growth" curriculum regardless of the students' needs or vulnerabilities. Despite DHS' stated concerns, MBA recently introduced what it call the Transitions program, which closely mirrors the Lifesteps program in part because it contains the same deficiencies with respect to requiring participation regardless of students' needs or vulnerabilities.
15. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0051(2) regarding staff services in that staff members do not have the background and experience to be able to provide adequate care, safety, protections and supervision of students. MBA has only one staff member who is an Oregon licensed mental health professional, however that staff member reported that he does not meet with every student admitted nor does he regularly participate in the Lifesteps program or "emotional growth" curriculum. There are no staff members with qualifications to treat substance abuse or eating disorders and other mental health diagnosis.
16. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0676(2) and OAR 413-215-0611 regarding educational services in that MBA fails to ensure students have adequate access to education or knowledge of their right to such education. Students are deprived of the ability to participate in academic classes while on self studies, solos or other disciplinary actions.
17. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0606(10) and OAR 413-215-0611 regarding educational services in that MBA fails to meet the definition of a therapeutic boarding school which requires the licensee to be primarily a school and not a residential care agency. It was reported that MBA specializes in adolescents with significant emotional and behavioral disorders, many of whom are likely to have significant diagnosable psychiatric disorders. Such students are inappropriate for a therapeutic boarding school and have clinical conditions beyond the scope of MBA's license.
18. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0046(1) and OAR 413-215-0676(2) regarding children and families rights and grievance policies in that students were denied access to education for behavioral infractions. Students' rights in the student handbook do not include a right to participate in treatment planning and there is no right to file a grievance if the student is not in agreement with the service provided. Students' calls to parents are monitored and censored. Grievance policies and procedures are not made available to parents. Students' mail is opened and read prior to the student receiving it. Students with documented mental health and substance abuse disorders are not given access to appropriate therapy and treatment.
19. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0651(1) regarding medication management in that MBA failed to have medication policies and procedures that ensure the safe management and administration of medication. Medication logs reviewed had errors including but not limited to missing dates, no record of missed doses, no record of method of administration, no identification of the person who administered the medication and no information regarding adverse reactions to the medication. There is no policy or procedure in place that addresses how or by whom medication is administered to students while they are involved in workshops that are part of the "emotional growth" curriculum or while involved in off-campus activities. It was also reported that during Lifesteps students do not always receive their medication. Additionally, some medications used to aid sleep are purposely withheld from students during the Lifesteps program.
20. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0661 regarding supervision in that supervision of students during the La Mancha Lifestep in Europe was inadequate to protect students.
21. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0681(3) regarding discharge planning in that student records lacked any discharge planning or instructions for students prior to or at their departure from school. Additionally, students records lacked documentation that the students or their family were involved any discharge planning.
22. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0681(3) regarding incident reporting and notifications in that incident reports are not maintained in the client files and there were no incident reports for other events, including but not limited to an incident resulting in a concussion.
23. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0056 regarding mandatory reporting in that student records indicate a student disclosed to a staff member prior sexual abuse but there is no indication in the record that the staff to whom the disclosure was made had complied with mandatory reporting requirements. Another student reported disclosing rape while at MBA to staff however there is no indication of a report to law enforcement or children's protective services.
24. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0021(3) regarding governance in that the Executive Director has a substantiated finding of neglect for failing to ensure that individual students received the appropriate therapeutic services and were not subjected to activities that were coercive, intimidating, harassing, and/or humiliating.
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.
NOTICE OF RIGHTS
You have a right to a formal hearing to contest this suspension order. In order to have a hearing, you must request one in writing. You may mail a request for a hearing to Department of Human Services, Attn: Donna Keddy, Program Manager, Residential Treatment and Licensing, 500 Summer Street, NE, Salem, Oregon 97301, or fax a request to (503) 947-5084. If requested, such a hearing will be held pursuant to the Administrative Procedures Act (ORS chapter 183). You have a right to demand that the hearing be held as soon as practicable after DHS receives your written request. Your written request for a hearing must be received by DHS within 90 days from the date this order was mailed or your right to a hearing will be waived.
If you request a hearing, the hearing will be held by an administrative law judge from the Office of Administrative Hearings, as required by ORS 183.635. You will be notified of the date, time and place of the hearing. If you wish, you may hire an attorney to represent you at the hearing. At the hearing you have the right to respond to, and to present evidence and argument, on all issues. After the hearing, an order confirming, altering or revoking this suspension order will be issued.
If you do request a hearing, but later withdraw your request for hearing, fail to appear, or notify DHS or the administrative law judge that you do not intend to appear at the hearing, you will have waived your right to a hearing. In that event, DHS designates the relevant portions of its file, including all materials that you have submitted, as the record for purposes of the emergency suspension order.
DATED this 2nd day of November 2009.
<signature>
______________________________
Erian Kelley-Siel, Assistant Director
DHS Children, Adults and Families Division
DATE of Service: ________
Initial: ________________
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
So there is an indication that the 8 substantiated abuses are typical of what the rest of the students endured in the reports findings. So there is a strong possibility that they will conclude that all the kids (100%) were abused.
It will be interesting to see how this all ends up and if they end up concluding that all the kids were abused.
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Funny, I posted that quote several times and provided all the links to the reports and Whooter has been denying it for days. I guess he finally read the report, now that Ursus spoon fed it (or rather posted it publicly so it can't rationally be denied) to him, as usual. :beat: Look at the lengths to which people here are willing to go to in order to minimize, obfuscate or outright lie to protect child abusers. There's something wrong with people like that.
Anyway...the report already has concluded that all the kids were abused. If you can't understand English, I guess you could miss that.
There have also been criminal referrals to the sherrif's department.
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Funny, I posted that quote several times and provided all the links to the reports and Whooter has been denying it for days. I guess he finally read the report, now that Ursus spoon fed it (or rather posted it publicly so it can't rationally be denied) to him, as usual. :beat: Look at the lengths to which people here are willing to go to in order to minimize, obfuscate or outright lie to protect child abusers. There's something wrong with people like that.
Anyway...the report already has concluded that all the kids were abused. If you can't understand English, I guess you could miss that.
There have also been criminal referrals to the sherrif's department.
No, you said that 100% of the kids were abused. The report still stands at 9 being substantiated and the rest are pending (or these is an indication that the rest were abused). There are opinions indicating that they will rule that all were abused, but we need to wait to see if they substantiate the rest.
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Funny, I posted that quote several times and provided all the links to the reports and Whooter has been denying it for days. I guess he finally read the report, now that Ursus spoon fed it (or rather posted it publicly so it can't rationally be denied) to him, as usual. :beat: Look at the lengths to which people here are willing to go to in order to minimize, obfuscate or outright lie to protect child abusers. There's something wrong with people like that.
Anyway...the report already has concluded that all the kids were abused. If you can't understand English, I guess you could miss that.
There have also been criminal referrals to the sherrif's department.
See DJ it does not say that all the kids were abused, it is implying it. They have not settled on a this yet, wait for the case to be settled.
This is your problem DJ, just because Ursus posted the charges, this does not make them automatically true. We'll see at the end of the investigation. Hold your horses there, your not "right" yet.
Whooter did not deny anything unless it was nonsense you've been talking, he has stated over and over that they only have 8-9 substantiated cases of abuse, that's it. Guess what that has not changed.
Oh and those criminal referrals will get'cha every time.
DJ are you part of the SICCO Operation.....HMMmmmmm.
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The state child abuse investigation is over, those are the final findings of fact (substantiated, documented charges by the state that abuse was systemic and all kids were abused) and the case has been referred for criminal prosecution. Now we'll see where that goes.
Keep apologizing for child abusers, Danny. I'm sure it's good for your karma.
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The state child abuse investigation is over, those are the final findings of fact (substantiated, documented charges by the state that abuse was systemic and all kids were abused) and the case has been referred for criminal prosecution. Now we'll see where that goes.
Keep apologizing for child abusers, Danny. I'm sure it's good for your karma.
If that is the final report then it states clearly that only 9 have been substantiated. The ones that you said have been referred to the sheriffs department you will have to let us know how they turn out. If they substantiate them then we will add them to the 9.
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
:deal: :poison:
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
:deal: :poison:
Like it says there is an indication there but they have not been substantiated. Sounds like they never will if this is final like you say. So far there are only 9 that were substantiated.
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The state child abuse investigation is over, those are the final findings of fact (substantiated, documented charges by the state that abuse was systemic and all kids were abused) and the case has been referred for criminal prosecution. Now we'll see where that goes.
Keep apologizing for child abusers, Danny. I'm sure it's good for your karma.
Ouch!!!! that statement makes me want to change my mind. Ya, I thought you would go there.
I'm sorry I have not seen the paperwork where they have convicted anyone.
Nice to see you are part of the "guilty first"group. Also you sound like you were involved in the investigation...lol.
As far as "systemic" since this is the new word in vogue now, "Systemic".
Results:
a.) affecting the body generally b.) supplying those parts of the body that receive blood through the aorta rather than through the pulmonary artery.
Slow down and lets see what happens, DJ.
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote. They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM" were/are exposed to. Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote. They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM" were/are exposed to. Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
Seems like we are all reading the same thing and are in agreement. Now the next step is if they end up substantiating all the findings (above) then we can say 100% of the kids were abused instead of just the 9 that are substantiated so far. This seems to be the point everyone wants to get to I think.
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote. They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM" were/are exposed to. Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
Sounds like a lot of broad terminology to me, we will just have to see.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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7. MBA violated OAR 413-215-0076(3) regarding behavior management in that MBA required students to engage in an "emotional growth" curriculum included, but was not limited to, the Lifesteps program that was punitive, humiliating, degrading and traumatizing. The "emotional growth" curriculum included, but was not limited to, sexualized role play in front of staff and peers, requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers, requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers, permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names, phrases and ridicule of students, and deprivation of sleep.
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Lifestep (http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Lifestep)
Lifesteps are a trademark of the Aspen Education Group. They were developed by Linda Houghton in association with Alex Bitz and a group of former CEDU staff at the founding of Mount Bachelor Academy, a first generation CEDU clone. Lifesteps incorporate the propheet system of CEDU into a slightly modified model built around basically the same ideas. "Peer groups" of eight to fifteen children go through all of the Lifesteps together. Each Lifestep has both staff and student "facilitators," a term that is used because they refuse to call the process "therapy" because there are usually no licensed therapists or psychologists present. If a Lifestep participant fails to live up to the facilitator's expectations of them during the Lifestep, then it is likely that he or she will be "dropped" into a lower peer group. They are all numbered according to the "graduation date" of the children, or the day that they are allowed to go home. Thus, being "dropped" into a higher numbered peer group meant that a child would usually be forced to spend a longer amount of time at the facility. There are six life-steps used at Mount Bachelor Academy.
http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/for ... %28CEDU%29 (http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/fornitswiki/index.php/Propheets_%28CEDU%29)
I went throught the all the propheets incluing both workshops.
Well it sounds like you just could not get enough, has it helped in your experiences with life.
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote. They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM" were/are exposed to. Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
Seems like we are all reading the same thing and are in agreement. Now the next step is if they end up substantiating all the findings (above) then we can say 100% of the kids were abused instead of just the 9 that are substantiated so far. This seems to be the point everyone wants to get to I think.
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No, the point is that they found that the very methods used were abusive. Therefore, since they also found that all kids were exposed to these methods, we can conclude (those of us with critical thinking skills) that all kids that were abused via those methods.
::deadhorse::
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote. They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM" were/are exposed to. Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
Seems like we are all reading the same thing and are in agreement. Now the next step is if they end up substantiating all the findings (above) then we can say 100% of the kids were abused instead of just the 9 that are substantiated so far. This seems to be the point everyone wants to get to I think.
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No, the point is that they found that the very methods used were abusive. Therefore, since they also found that all kids were exposed to these methods, we can conclude (those of us with critical thinking skills) that all kids that were abused via those methods.
::deadhorse::
Anne, stop it....those of us with "critical thinking skills"..... :roflmao: next you'll be telling us you litigated your first case today in court.
Put the joint down......now!!!!!!
Did you know that Glenn Beck is going "blind"???? I told him to stop it but NOOOoooooooo.
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Danny loves him some Anne Bonney!
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Danny loves him some Anne Bonney!
I'll admit it but SSSSssssshhhhhhhhh, my significant other would kill me.
Now DJ, have you rested your case, please take a 2 week recess.
You two are killing us here, shud uppppp!!!!!!!!
(You and whooter that is.)
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So true, Anne. Here's some more about the investigation that showed Aspen Education systematically abuses children in their care:
November 2, 2009
Background Information: Mt. Bachelor Academy
Children, Adults and Families Division, Oregon Department of Human Services
Investigations conducted by the Oregon Department of Human Services at Mt. Bachelor Academy (MBA), a therapeutic boarding school located near Prineville, have resulted in nine substantiated findings of child abuse and neglect against the school's leadership and therapeutic program.
As a result of the abuse investigation and violations of Oregon’s licensing standards, the state has ordered Mt. Bachelor Academy to temporarily cease all therapeutic, educational and residential services to children until further notice.
The abuse and neglect findings centered on the program as a whole, as well as the school’s Executive Director, and involved five children who attended Mt. Bachelor Academy during 2007-2009. The results of the investigation are being provided to local law enforcement officials.
The investigation was conducted by the Office of Investigation and Training (OIT) at DHS. Investigators with OIT reported that all students at MBA were required to participate in “emotional growth” workshops, called Lifesteps, which included activities that were coercive, intimidating and humiliating -- including sexualized role play and reenactment of past traumatic events, such as prior physical or sexual abuse.
While the initial reports described concerns about Lifesteps, the investigation ultimately revealed serious safety concerns about MBA’s curriculum and program as a whole. The experience of the five students was consistent with that of other children enrolled at the school. The report concluded that the experiences of “these five youth are exemplars of the program's treatment of its students as a whole."
As a result of the OIT investigation, DHS Children, Adults and Families Residential Treatment Services and Licensing found violations of state licensing standards for therapeutic boarding schools, and state officials will require MBA to cease providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.
The licensing program determined in its investigation that there are conditions present that immediately endanger the health and safety of the children enrolled at MBA. The program found that MBA’s methods of educational instruction, emotional and behavioral intervention and daily interaction with students create an immediate threat which places all children at risk of harm.
Further, the investigation revealed that MBA has subjected children to Lifestep workshops as a therapy technique that is harmful and damaging to their health or welfare. In addition, that MBA has not provided the therapeutic treatment necessary for children to overcome or improve with substance abuse issues, mental health issues, eating disorders and other issues, nor provided qualified staff to treat such conditions.
The substantiated incidents of abuse or neglect are shown below:
• Mt. Bachelor Academy Executive Director neglected the care of four children by failing to ensure individualized and therapeutic treatment plans were developed to address past abuse and significant emotional and behavioral issues.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a child in 2007 by requiring the child to engage in sexualized role play in front of staff and peers.
• The Mount Bachelor program abused a second child in 2009 by requiring the child to make obscene and self-degrading comments out loud, in front of staff and peers. In addition, the Mount Bachelor program neglected the same child during 2008-2009 by failing to provide adequate medical care and supervision.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program neglected a third child in 2009, by failing to provide adequate supervision during an international trip.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a fourth child in 2008 by requiring the child to engage in degrading activities such as acting out sexualized role play and physical abuse, and by being subjected to obscene and degrading comments by staff in front of other staff and peers.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a fifth child during 2009 by requiring and/or permitting staff to use derogatory names, phrases, ridicule and harassment.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program neglected five children between 2007 and 2009 by failing to provide individualized treatment to meet their diagnosed mental health needs.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused five children between 2007 and 2009 by requiring them to engage in activities that were coercive, intimidating, harassing, and/or humiliating.
The substantiated incidents meet Oregon's legal definition of child abuse because they were inconsistent with recommended and appropriate treatment or care, used derogatory names/phrases, profanity, ridicule, harassment, coercion, and/or intimidation that was likely to endanger the child's health or welfare. In addition, the activities subjected children to a substantial risk of harm to their health or welfare, and the adults failed to supervise or intervene when the child needed assistance or care, in an activity that was likely to endanger their health or welfare.
An expert in the field of child and adolescent psychiatry consulted by DHS as part of the investigation concluded: "In general, coercive, degrading and humiliating treatment is harmful to young people, especially those with psychological vulnerabilities. Young people (male and female) who have been victims of abuse often hold themselves responsible for the abuse, and develop sexualized behavior for reasons they often don't understand. To confront them and humiliate them about these behaviors in an effort to force them to see themselves more clearly and consequently change their behavior can be very destructive. It has the risk of reinforcing self-blame and self-loathing attitudes already present in traumatized individuals. It is essentially retraumatizing."
Today's report also includes a substantiated allegation of child abuse against the Executive Director of MBA as "the individual responsible for delivery of therapeutic care to MBA students.” In that role, the Executive Director “administers through staff an ‘emotional growth’ curriculum in which all students must participate regardless of their emotional, behavioral or mental health needs, and regardless of their own trauma histories. This curriculum is delivered by staff who are not trained to treat the broad range of issues the children bring, and who routinely degrade and humiliate them.” The report concludes that the Executive Director, “knew or should have known what happens to students in [the] program.”
Mt. Bachelor Academy is a licensed Therapeutic Boarding School, located in a rural area, 26 miles east of Prineville, Oregon, licensed originally in 1988. The school admits both male and female students who are from age 14 to 17.5 at the time of admission, although some children are admitted pursuant to an exception as young as age 13. The total capacity is 125 students and the average length of stay is 14-16 months. Tuition is $6,400 a month with an additional up front, one time $2,200 enrollment fee. Other service fees are not included. In 2008, Mt. Bachelor was reorganized and became a program of Aspen Education Group. Aspen was recently acquired by CRC Health Group, Inc. In March of 2009, MBA had approximately 77 staff and 88 boarding students.
Last March, the state received reports of child abuse against Mt. Bachelor Academy, initially concerning the Lifesteps program at MBA. OIT is a division of DHS that investigates allegations of abuse by paid staff in various therapeutic or treatment settings, and OIT handled the investigation of the reports of abuse at MBA. There were two investigators primarily assigned to go to Prineville and interview people on campus. In addition, the office used three other investigators to conduct witness interviews of people in- and out-of-state. The investigators conducted interviews involving 65 witnesses, including MBA students and staff, along with licensed therapists familiar with individual students. Investigators consulted with a medical expert certified in Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and they reviewed documents and photographed materials used as part of the MBA therapy program.
At the same time, the DHS Licensing program investigated standards for health and safety and looked at the school's compliance with Oregon Administrative Rules related to their license as a therapeutic boarding school. Licensing notified MBA that they were prohibited from conducting their own investigation into the allegations of abuse reported to have occurred; prohibited from destroying or otherwise concealing school or student records; prohibited from disciplining or threatening discipline to students interviewed during the investigation; prohibited from conducting Lifesteps activities until further notice. Parents of students were notified of the investigation.
A "Therapeutic boarding school" is a program that is primarily a school and not a residential care agency (as defined in OAR 413-215-0506). Therapeutic boarding schools are licensed to provide both educational services and care to children for 24 hours a day and hold themselves out as serving children with emotional or behavioral problems by providing therapeutic services or assuring that children receive therapeutic services.
So, basically, in 2008 this program became part of Aspen Education and within one year was found to be systematically abusing all of the children in its care and getting shut down. Aspen's programs are designed this way and implemented this way, causing massive trauma to its abused and neglected victims.
PARENTS BEWARE ASPEN EDUCATION PROGRAMS. :poison: :suicide:
This program was included in the Behrens study. She concluded that child abuse is effective in helping kids. :eek:
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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So true, Anne. Here's some more about the investigation that showed Aspen Education systematically abuses children in their care:
November 2, 2009
Background Information: Mt. Bachelor Academy
Children, Adults and Families Division, Oregon Department of Human Services
Investigations conducted by the Oregon Department of Human Services at Mt. Bachelor Academy (MBA), a therapeutic boarding school located near Prineville, have resulted in nine substantiated findings of child abuse and neglect against the school's leadership and therapeutic program.
As a result of the abuse investigation and violations of Oregon’s licensing standards, the state has ordered Mt. Bachelor Academy to temporarily cease all therapeutic, educational and residential services to children until further notice.
The abuse and neglect findings centered on the program as a whole, as well as the school’s Executive Director, and involved five children who attended Mt. Bachelor Academy during 2007-2009. The results of the investigation are being provided to local law enforcement officials.
The investigation was conducted by the Office of Investigation and Training (OIT) at DHS. Investigators with OIT reported that all students at MBA were required to participate in “emotional growth” workshops, called Lifesteps, which included activities that were coercive, intimidating and humiliating -- including sexualized role play and reenactment of past traumatic events, such as prior physical or sexual abuse.
While the initial reports described concerns about Lifesteps, the investigation ultimately revealed serious safety concerns about MBA’s curriculum and program as a whole. The experience of the five students was consistent with that of other children enrolled at the school. The report concluded that the experiences of “these five youth are exemplars of the program's treatment of its students as a whole."
As a result of the OIT investigation, DHS Children, Adults and Families Residential Treatment Services and Licensing found violations of state licensing standards for therapeutic boarding schools, and state officials will require MBA to cease providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.
The licensing program determined in its investigation that there are conditions present that immediately endanger the health and safety of the children enrolled at MBA. The program found that MBA’s methods of educational instruction, emotional and behavioral intervention and daily interaction with students create an immediate threat which places all children at risk of harm.
Further, the investigation revealed that MBA has subjected children to Lifestep workshops as a therapy technique that is harmful and damaging to their health or welfare. In addition, that MBA has not provided the therapeutic treatment necessary for children to overcome or improve with substance abuse issues, mental health issues, eating disorders and other issues, nor provided qualified staff to treat such conditions.
The substantiated incidents of abuse or neglect are shown below:
• Mt. Bachelor Academy Executive Director neglected the care of four children by failing to ensure individualized and therapeutic treatment plans were developed to address past abuse and significant emotional and behavioral issues.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a child in 2007 by requiring the child to engage in sexualized role play in front of staff and peers.
• The Mount Bachelor program abused a second child in 2009 by requiring the child to make obscene and self-degrading comments out loud, in front of staff and peers. In addition, the Mount Bachelor program neglected the same child during 2008-2009 by failing to provide adequate medical care and supervision.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program neglected a third child in 2009, by failing to provide adequate supervision during an international trip.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a fourth child in 2008 by requiring the child to engage in degrading activities such as acting out sexualized role play and physical abuse, and by being subjected to obscene and degrading comments by staff in front of other staff and peers.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused a fifth child during 2009 by requiring and/or permitting staff to use derogatory names, phrases, ridicule and harassment.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program neglected five children between 2007 and 2009 by failing to provide individualized treatment to meet their diagnosed mental health needs.
• The Mount Bachelor Academy program abused five children between 2007 and 2009 by requiring them to engage in activities that were coercive, intimidating, harassing, and/or humiliating.
The substantiated incidents meet Oregon's legal definition of child abuse because they were inconsistent with recommended and appropriate treatment or care, used derogatory names/phrases, profanity, ridicule, harassment, coercion, and/or intimidation that was likely to endanger the child's health or welfare. In addition, the activities subjected children to a substantial risk of harm to their health or welfare, and the adults failed to supervise or intervene when the child needed assistance or care, in an activity that was likely to endanger their health or welfare.
An expert in the field of child and adolescent psychiatry consulted by DHS as part of the investigation concluded: "In general, coercive, degrading and humiliating treatment is harmful to young people, especially those with psychological vulnerabilities. Young people (male and female) who have been victims of abuse often hold themselves responsible for the abuse, and develop sexualized behavior for reasons they often don't understand. To confront them and humiliate them about these behaviors in an effort to force them to see themselves more clearly and consequently change their behavior can be very destructive. It has the risk of reinforcing self-blame and self-loathing attitudes already present in traumatized individuals. It is essentially retraumatizing."
Today's report also includes a substantiated allegation of child abuse against the Executive Director of MBA as "the individual responsible for delivery of therapeutic care to MBA students.” In that role, the Executive Director “administers through staff an ‘emotional growth’ curriculum in which all students must participate regardless of their emotional, behavioral or mental health needs, and regardless of their own trauma histories. This curriculum is delivered by staff who are not trained to treat the broad range of issues the children bring, and who routinely degrade and humiliate them.” The report concludes that the Executive Director, “knew or should have known what happens to students in [the] program.”
Mt. Bachelor Academy is a licensed Therapeutic Boarding School, located in a rural area, 26 miles east of Prineville, Oregon, licensed originally in 1988. The school admits both male and female students who are from age 14 to 17.5 at the time of admission, although some children are admitted pursuant to an exception as young as age 13. The total capacity is 125 students and the average length of stay is 14-16 months. Tuition is $6,400 a month with an additional up front, one time $2,200 enrollment fee. Other service fees are not included. In 2008, Mt. Bachelor was reorganized and became a program of Aspen Education Group. Aspen was recently acquired by CRC Health Group, Inc. In March of 2009, MBA had approximately 77 staff and 88 boarding students.
Last March, the state received reports of child abuse against Mt. Bachelor Academy, initially concerning the Lifesteps program at MBA. OIT is a division of DHS that investigates allegations of abuse by paid staff in various therapeutic or treatment settings, and OIT handled the investigation of the reports of abuse at MBA. There were two investigators primarily assigned to go to Prineville and interview people on campus. In addition, the office used three other investigators to conduct witness interviews of people in- and out-of-state. The investigators conducted interviews involving 65 witnesses, including MBA students and staff, along with licensed therapists familiar with individual students. Investigators consulted with a medical expert certified in Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and they reviewed documents and photographed materials used as part of the MBA therapy program.
At the same time, the DHS Licensing program investigated standards for health and safety and looked at the school's compliance with Oregon Administrative Rules related to their license as a therapeutic boarding school. Licensing notified MBA that they were prohibited from conducting their own investigation into the allegations of abuse reported to have occurred; prohibited from destroying or otherwise concealing school or student records; prohibited from disciplining or threatening discipline to students interviewed during the investigation; prohibited from conducting Lifesteps activities until further notice. Parents of students were notified of the investigation.
A "Therapeutic boarding school" is a program that is primarily a school and not a residential care agency (as defined in OAR 413-215-0506). Therapeutic boarding schools are licensed to provide both educational services and care to children for 24 hours a day and hold themselves out as serving children with emotional or behavioral problems by providing therapeutic services or assuring that children receive therapeutic services.
So, basically, in 2008 this program became part of Aspen Education and within one year was found to be systematically abusing all of the children in its care and getting shut down. Aspen's programs are designed this way and implemented this way, causing massive trauma to its abused and neglected victims.
PARENTS BEWARE ASPEN EDUCATION PROGRAMS. :poison: :suicide:
This program was included in the Behrens study. She concluded that child abuse is effective in helping kids. :eek:
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I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote. They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM" [/u][/color][/size] were/are exposed to. Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology. Why is this so difficult to grasp?[/color]
Sorry to quote myself but, this is such an important point. It's, say it with me now, S-Y-S-T-E-M-I-C!!! It's not "isolated incidents" or just "poorly trained staff".....its systemic to how they actually "work". THAT is what's abusive, among many other things.
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Great point, Anne. Abuse is SYSTEMIC at Aspen Education. Spinning to try to make it seem as if all of these abuses are isolated incidents doesn't fly.
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Yup!!
Sorry to quote myself again but, this is such an important point. It's, say it with me now, S-Y-S-T-E-M-I-C!!! It's not "isolated incidents" or just "poorly trained staff".....its systemic to how they actually "work". THAT is what's abusive, among many other things.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29131&p=350409#p350409), color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30803&p=370132#p370132):
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote. They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM" [/u][/color][/size] were/are exposed to. Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology. Why is this so difficult to grasp?[/color]
Sorry to quote myself but, this is such an important point. It's, say it with me now, S-Y-S-T-E-M-I-C!!! It's not "isolated incidents" or just "poorly trained staff".....its systemic to how they actually "work". THAT is what's abusive, among many other things.
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The state of Oregon came out and stated they jumped the gun and spoke out before the had all the evidence. They have since revised these statements.
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The state of Oregon came out and stated they jumped the gun and spoke out before the had all the evidence. They have since revised these statements.
Really? Where are these revised statements? Citation please.
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The state of Oregon came out and stated they jumped the gun and spoke out before the had all the evidence. They have since revised these statements.
Really? Where are these revised statements? Citation please.
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=381458#p381458)
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The state of Oregon came out and stated they jumped the gun and spoke out before the had all the evidence. They have since revised these statements.
Really? Where are these revised statements? Citation please.
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=381458#p381458)
Citation to the actual revision please......not just a thread about what you think of it. Where, specifically, did they revise what they originally said?
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The state of Oregon came out and stated they jumped the gun and spoke out before the had all the evidence. They have since revised these statements.
Really? Where are these revised statements? Citation please.
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=381458#p381458)
Citation to the actual revision please......not just a thread about what you think of it. Where, specifically, did they revise what they originally said?
A statement from Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group, on behalf of Mount Bachelor Academy:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
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The bottom line is that Aspen folded their tent and ran from the issues. If there was no "there" there, they wouldn't have folded up like a cheap suitcase.
Oregon built a solid case against them and Aspen knew it couldn't keep the case private without an agreement to voluntarily close up shop. They sued the state and then agreed to settle. The settlement included that Aspen would cease and desist. When the shit hit the fan they lawyered up, did damage control and ultimately, by their actions, admitted guilt.
Whooter will only continously offer up a PR statement from Aspen and hold that out as "proof" that charges were dropped, but they weren't. He has no documentation other than some Aspen PR spin that he spam-posts.
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The bottom line is that Aspen folded their tent and ran from the issues. If there was no "there" there, they wouldn't have folded up like a cheap suitcase.
Oregon built a solid case against them and Aspen knew it couldn't keep the case private without an agreement to voluntarily close up shop. They sued the state and then agreed to settle. The settlement included that Aspen would cease and desist. When the shit hit the fan they lawyered up, did damage control and ultimately, by their actions, admitted guilt.
Whooter will only continously offer up a PR statement from Aspen and hold that out as "proof" that charges were dropped, but they weren't. He has no documentation other than some Aspen PR spin that he spam-posts.
The State of Oregon backed off after they had time to look at the evidence. If you believe otherwise then let us know when the trial begins and we will all take a look.
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There's no evidence of this other than your Aspen PR report. The fact is that MBA is gone. They're closed. If they did nothing wrong, wouldn't they still be operating? I think we all agree that they would be. But they aren't. Not sure what "trial" you're referencing since there was a settlement already that resulted in MBA being out of business.
Actions speak louder than words and Aspen's action was to close up shop which doesn't jive with their PR spin. Sorry, but you just have no credibility on this issue, Whooter, since you already admit being an Aspen fiduciary. No offense, but you can't be believed.
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There's no evidence of this other than your Aspen PR report. The fact is that MBA is gone. They're closed. If they did nothing wrong, wouldn't they still be operating? I think we all agree that they would be. But they aren't. Not sure what "trial" you're referencing since there was a settlement already that resulted in MBA being out of business.
Actions speak louder than words and Aspen's action was to close up shop which doesn't jive with their PR spin. Sorry, but you just have no credibility on this issue, Whooter, since you already admit being an Aspen fiduciary. No offense, but you can't be believed.
Sorry DJ, but again you can think what you like. The state of Oregon backed off. If you want to refute their statements and Aspens statements in the news release then that is your right. But myself and many other readers will rely on what the State of Oregon and their local news media reported on the case.
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Whooter, that's nothing more than a press release from Aspen Ed. I'm asking you for the original citation where you say that the State 'revised' their original statement. Can you or can you not provide that?
A statement from Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group, on behalf of Mount Bachelor Academy:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
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You haven't shown a single shred of evidence to support your position other than an Aspen PR release. Do you have documentation from the State of Oregon? Do you have any source documents? No, of course you don't. Not to mention, MBA is CLOSED. If they did nothing wrong, they'd be OPEN.
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But myself and many other readers will rely on what the State of Oregon and their local news media reported on the case.
Then provide the citation where the State backed off of their original statement.
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Whooter, that's nothing more than a press release from Aspen Ed. I'm asking you for the original citation where you say that the State 'revised' their original statement. Can you or can you not provide that?
A statement from Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group, on behalf of Mount Bachelor Academy:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
If you read the newspaper article it covers what the state of Oregon had to say on MBA and what Aspen Ed had to say in the same article. I have to go with what the news media in Oregon reported on the issue for now. If you want to believe something else that is fine. I am just reporting the facts and I provided links to support my point of view.
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Hmmmm...no link or quote from the State. That's what I thought. Just Aspen PR spin. For aforementioned reasons, that's not good enough.
We'll need to see an official press release from Oregon DHS or a revised statement of charges against MBA. I'm sure Whooter has it. We can wait for him to post it but the mods should clean up the repetitive posting of the Aspen PR spam he keeps putting up.
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lol
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=381458#p381458)
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Whooter, that's nothing more than a press release from Aspen Ed. I'm asking you for the original citation where you say that the State 'revised' their original statement. Can you or can you not provide that?
A statement from Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group, on behalf of Mount Bachelor Academy:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
If you read the newspaper article it covers what the state of Oregon had to say on MBA and what Aspen Ed had to say in the same article. I have to go with what the news media in Oregon reported on the issue for now. If you want to believe something else that is fine. I am just reporting the facts and I provided links to support my point of view.
No, you're not. You're stating your opinion and trying to back it up by quoting a press release from Aspen Ed.
Where's the statement from the State of Oregon saying they're backing off their claims?????
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Link to News article (http://http://www.ktvz.com/news/25258065/detail.html)
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In other words, you have no such statement form Oregon DHS. You made it up like you do everything else.
Reminder: MBA is CLOSED. If they did nothing wrong, they would be OPEN and the winners of a big lawsuit to boot.
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In other words, you have no such statement form Oregon DHS. You made it up like you do everything else.
Reminder: MBA is CLOSED. If they did nothing wrong, they would be OPEN and the winners of a big lawsuit to boot.
No way, the bad press did damage to MBA's name. If they reopen I would imagine they would do so under a new name. But I wouldn't expect that to happen until the economy turns around they still have open beds in the other facilities. Again read the news article and decide for yourself. If you feel differently that what is written then you have that right. But personally I am going with what the paper reported on this matter.
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Translation: "I'm talking out of my ass and have no source documents."
Thanks for playing. Come back when you have some value to add. We can wait for you to post documents originating from DHS that prove your point. Until then, you're just the same old source with no credibility. Sorry. Source documents or it never happened.
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Here is the link to the article that I have formed my opinion on and base my argument on:
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=381458#p381458)
Everyone is free to interpret it as they will. But in my opinion it is important to get the facts out to the readers and let them decide for themselves. I think we can all agree with this.
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I am not sure what marketing material you are talking about. What I was quoting came from a newspaper article. This one here:
Link to News article (http://http://www.ktvz.com/news/25258065/detail.html)
Each side made a statement which is customary
Erinn Kelley-Siel, Director of Children, Adults and Families at Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) made a statement and then Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group made a statement. How can ErinnSiels response be okay to post but not Phil Herschmans?
I think the problem is that Troll Control does not like this part of the article:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
But I think it is important to look at both sides and focus on what the outcome of the investigation was. I think this makes for a good discussion and debate.
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Whooter, that's nothing more than a press release from Aspen Ed. I'm asking you for the original citation where you say that the State 'revised' their original statement. Can you or can you not provide that?
A statement from Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group, on behalf of Mount Bachelor Academy:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
If you read the newspaper article it covers what the state of Oregon had to say on MBA and what Aspen Ed had to say in the same article. I have to go with what the news media in Oregon reported on the issue for now. If you want to believe something else that is fine. I am just reporting the facts and I provided links to support my point of view.
No, you're not. You're stating your opinion and trying to back it up by quoting a press release from Aspen Ed.
Where's the statement from the State of Oregon saying they're backing off their claims?????
Here's the pertinent thread; it contains the article that Whooter linked to above:
DHS, Mount Bachelor Academy Settle Case · viewtopic.php?f=48&t=31526 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=31526)[/list]
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Some feedback regarding the MBA settlement:
"It is gratifying to see the settlement in which DHS admits what we parents knew all along - the state caused a completely unecessary disruption of a unique and successful school community by acting precipitiously and without gathering all of the facts first," Povich told NewsChannel 21.
"The state went off half-cocked," Povich added. "I hope especially that this settlement will mean that no other school will be subjected in the future to similar callous treatment by DHS."
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Some feedback regarding the MBA settlement:
"It is gratifying to see the settlement in which DHS admits what we parents knew all along - the state caused a completely unecessary disruption of a unique and successful school community by acting precipitiously and without gathering all of the facts first," Povich told NewsChannel 21.
"The state went off half-cocked," Povich added. "I hope especially that this settlement will mean that no other school will be subjected in the future to similar callous treatment by DHS."
Wasn't that a pro-MBA parent quoted within the article (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=31526&p=388224#p385223), possibly even a solicited opinion, as opposed to feedback to the news after it came out?
Just wanna make sure we're all being clear here... :D
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It was part of the original report (Within the article) as defined by the news article which had statements from Aspen Education as well as statements from DHS of Oregon. This was a response from a journalist who had a child in MBA.
Here is a link to where the quote was taken:
Link (http://http://www.ktvz.com/news/25258065/detail.html)
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So, here's what DHS actually said......
Erinn Kelley-Siel, Director of Children, Adults and Families at Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) released the following statement today (Friday) re: settlement agreement between DHS and Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA), Aspen Education Group, CRC Health Group and former MBA executive director Sharon Bitz:
DHS takes its responsibility to the vulnerable young people enrolled in state-licensed programs, such as Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA), very seriously. Our first priority is to ensure the safety of Oregon children and youth.
In November, 2009, following a comprehensive investigation that revealed serious abuse and widespread violations of Oregon's licensing rules, DHS took immediate action to suspend MBA's license.
On September 28, following settlement negotiations with all parties, MBA acknowledged that, based on the evidence available to DHS on November 2, 2009, the agency had reasonable cause to believe that abuse or neglect occurred at the school, as uncovered in the investigation.
In addition, MBA agrees that DHS had a reasonable basis to investigate the allegations of abuse and neglect and to seek corrective actions. Mount Bachelor Academy is closed and, by all accounts, will remain closed. Finally, the school and its parent corporations, as well as Ms. Bitz will dismiss all related legal actions.
Therapeutic Boarding Schools provide valuable programs and services to children and families in Oregon, and we are fortunate to have laws and rules in place that allow the state to regulate the health and safety of youth in these schools.
Nowhere in there does it say that they've backed off of their findings.
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Keep Reading,In the same article Aspen says:
A statement from Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group, on behalf of Mount Bachelor Academy:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
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Keep Reading,In the same article Aspen says:
Yes, "Aspen says". Why do you keep quoting a press release from the President of Aspen Ed? That's not what I asked for. I asked for (and Ursus finally provided) a link to what the DHS actually said, which is quoted again below and it says nothing about them backing off of their findings.
Erinn Kelley-Siel, Director of Children, Adults and Families at Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) released the following statement today (Friday) re: settlement agreement between DHS and Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA), Aspen Education Group, CRC Health Group and former MBA executive director Sharon Bitz:
DHS takes its responsibility to the vulnerable young people enrolled in state-licensed programs, such as Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA), very seriously. Our first priority is to ensure the safety of Oregon children and youth.
In November, 2009, following a comprehensive investigation that revealed serious abuse and widespread violations of Oregon's licensing rules, DHS took immediate action to suspend MBA's license.
On September 28, following settlement negotiations with all parties, MBA acknowledged that, based on the evidence available to DHS on November 2, 2009, the agency had reasonable cause to believe that abuse or neglect occurred at the school, as uncovered in the investigation.
In addition, MBA agrees that DHS had a reasonable basis to investigate the allegations of abuse and neglect and to seek corrective actions. Mount Bachelor Academy is closed and, by all accounts, will remain closed. Finally, the school and its parent corporations, as well as Ms. Bitz will dismiss all related legal actions.
Therapeutic Boarding Schools provide valuable programs and services to children and families in Oregon, and we are fortunate to have laws and rules in place that allow the state to regulate the health and safety of youth in these schools.
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Yes, "Aspen says". Why do you keep quoting a press release from the President of Aspen Ed? That's not what I asked for. I asked for (and Ursus finally provided) a link to what the DHS actually said, which is quoted again below and it says nothing about them backing off of their findings.
Because it is mentioned in the same article, Anne, "DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA"
Look below DHS's press release and you will find it:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
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Look below DHS's press release and you will find it:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
That's still the quote from the Prez of Aspen Ed. His position is that DHS's decision to withdraw it's actions means that "they didn't have the justification for that order in the first place". The actual DHS statement says nothing like that.
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...what the DHS actually said, which is quoted again below and it says nothing about them backing off of their findings.
No, it sure doesn't. That's an invention of Whooter's. All they say is that some charges were withdrawn and some charges were modified. For all we know they withdrew some minor ones and modified upward the serious ones. We won't know until we see some source materials from DHS describing the changes. All the rest is plain old "Whooter spin" on Aspen's behalf.
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Look below DHS's press release and you will find it:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
That's still the quote from the Prez of Aspen Ed. His position is that DHS's decision to withdraw it's actions means that "they didn't have the justification for that order in the first place". The actual DHS statement says nothing like that.
Regardless of who said it, It was clearly stated in the article:
"DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA"
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Look below DHS's press release and you will find it:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
That's still the quote from the Prez of Aspen Ed. His position is that DHS's decision to withdraw it's actions means that "they didn't have the justification for that order in the first place". The actual DHS statement says nothing like that.
Regardless of who said it, It was clearly stated in the article:
"DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA"
...what the DHS actually said, which is quoted again below and it says nothing about them backing off of their findings.
No, it sure doesn't. That's an invention of Whooter's. All they say is that some charges were withdrawn and some charges were modified. For all we know they withdrew some minor ones and modified upward the serious ones. We won't know until we see some source materials from DHS describing the changes. All the rest is plain old "Whooter spin" on Aspen's behalf.
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More quotes from the same article:
News of the settlement was applauded by supporters of the school, including Elaine Povich, a Washington, D.C., freelance journalist, who credits MBA with "giving her son the tools he needed to study, graduate and go on with his education."
"Before MBA, he was floundering," she said. "He benefited immensely from the program, and developed important relationships with the staff there."
"It is gratifying to see the settlement in which DHS admits what we parents knew all along - the state caused a completely unecessary disruption of a unique and successful school community by acting precipitiously and without gathering all of the facts first," Povich told NewsChannel 21.
"The state went off half-cocked," Povich added. "I hope especially that this settlement will mean that no other school will be subjected in the future to similar callous treatment by DHS."
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DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services.
Thankfully MBA is no more and cannot continue to abuse and neglect children placed in its "care."
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DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services.
Quote from news article release!
"DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA"
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DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services.
Quote from news article release!
"DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA"
Well, since MBA was closed down for abuse I guess they don't need to take any more action. Works out nicely.
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DHS finds that 8 allegations of abuse are substantiated against MBA and one allegation of abuse is substantiated against the Executive Director of MBA in violation of OAR 407-045-0820(1)(f), (g) and (h). Moreover, DHS finds that MBA is in violation of the following licensing rules: OAR 413-215-0076; OAR 413-215-0606; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0051; OAR 413-215-0676; OAR 413-215-00651; OAR 413-215-0661; OAR 413-215-0681; OAR 413-215-0056; OAR 413-215-0021; and OAR 413-215-0046.
DHS finds that MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules described below, establishes that MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety, that conditions exist that immediately endanger the health or safety of children at MBA and that MBA should not be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children and should immediately discontinue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services.
Quote from news article release!
"DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA"
Well, since MBA was closed down for abuse I guess they don't need to take any more action. Works out nicely.
No they dont need to do anymore. I believe if Aspen does open up another facility on the same site they will change the name of it because the name MBA was tainted due to the allegations against it and even though DHS is withdrawing or modifying its actions the damage to the the school was done in the first week when they were accused of abuse. With the condition of the present economy Aspen isnt looking to expand anyway, they are trying to control expenses.
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The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep...
All students were required to participate...
Good riddance to bad garbage. Too bad they still run this same program at all of the other Aspen facilities. Hopefully they'll get shuttered soon, too or go under financially which seems to be well on its way.
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Here is a link for you to review:
Link (http://http://www.aspeneducation.com/)
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The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep...
All students were required to participate...
This, among many other reasons, is why MBA was closed down. Just read the above passage, and if you're OK with it, then you ought to be strung up because it is blatant sexualized child abuse. That's a fact some here desperately want to avoid.
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The emotional growth curriculum included but was not limited to sexual role play in front of staff and peers requiring students to say derogatory phrases about themselves in front of staff and peers requiring students to reenact past physical abuse in front of staff and peers permitting staff to engage in the usage of derogatory names phrases and ridicule of students and deprivation of sleep...
All students were required to participate...
This, among many other reasons, is why MBA was closed down. Just read the above passage, and if you're OK with it, then you ought to be strung up because it is blatant sexualized child abuse. That's a fact some here desperately want to avoid.
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