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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Hyde Schools => Topic started by: mose on June 19, 2002, 06:08:00 PM
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Need information (both negative and positive) about recent experiences with Hyde School in Woodstock, CT and The Family Foundation School in Hancock, New York.
Also does anyone have any recommendation for an authentically nurturing environment in a boarding school for a teen in recovery from drug addiction. She does not want to live at home or in NYC anymore.
mose
NYC
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Hi, mose this is tommyfromhyde.
Please stay away from Hyde School! I know they
have a very slick pitch.
I was shipped off to Hyde in 1976 at age 14.
Hyde is a very cruel and sadistic place.
I witnessed people being forced to dig 6'holes
and fill them back in again over and over for
months at a time dawn to dusk. This is called
"work crew" at Hyde. This happens to people
not only for the obvious stuff but for not
being an athlete (and Hyde sports are BRUTAL),
a poor grade or because someone ELSE did something.
Anyway, I ran away from the place 3 times.
(from the Bath,ME campus not Woodstock,CT
which didn't exist in '76)
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Hi Tommy,
It's sounded brutal for you to have gone to Hyde in the 1970's. But 1976 was a different era! I was a teen in the early 70's. I wouldn't judge anything from that era for a true assessment of how a place now runs. (except maybe Elan).
Hyde could not get away with this type of behavior towards kids in 2002 when they are called a "Boarding school". Where would you send your teen who needed a school to attend. I'm definitely not looking for punishment for my daughter. She is a recovering drug addict 15 year old. She has the tools for recovery now she need a place to finish school in a healthy environment. She is not being forced to do this. I do know that sports are used as a way to build character and confidence at Hyde. My daughter is a good athlete so she wouldn't mind the emphasis on sports.
Does anyone have any recent information about Hyde or a recommendation for a school?
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Hyde could not get away with this type of behavior towards kids in 2002 when they are called a "Boarding school".
Just wondering how you can make such a statement? Do a bit of research and you will find that many of these "boarding schools" do in fact use rather harsh treatment to this day. Please, don't be fooled by slick advertising.
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On the contrary, although domestic violence and abuse by parents is a lot harder to get away with now than it used to be, abuse of kids and teens and adults in institutions both public and private are even more common than they were before because of the massive cash cow that providing these services represents, particularly to fringe and cult groups like Teen Help. Plus youth placement in lock-down facilities and "Treatment" have increased greatly because of the increasing fear of young people in our society and the blind acceptance of biological psychiatry that assumes that chemical imbalances and physical addictions are the source of most psychological and behavior problems.
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STAY AWAY FROM THE FAMILY SCHOOL IN NY!!!!!!
I was there for a short time after Straight. It was slave labor camp and the "school" is not even credited in NY so you are just there for nothing. Cleaning and working around the farm is all you do. There is also the food issue if you don't eat what they put in front of you (I do not eat meat) they make you sit in front of it until it rots literally rots. It definatly was better then Straight but not good at all. Just say no!!
Take care Watch out!! ,kady :eek:
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Thank you all for the feedback. With intense research and phone calls I have realized Hyde is not the type of place that is appropriate for me to send my daughter.
I already know the Family Foundation school is wrong! wrong ! wrong for my daughter. I called them and they don't have educators with backgrounds in Education! When I asked they said some of the teachers don't have college degress. They also don't ever want to meet the student during the interview process.
Pretty scary!
mose
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:grin: I am so glad you took the time to research these places have you heard of Storm King in Storm King NY? It is a boarding school. Maybe you might like to look at the information perhaps it is on the web. If an x-straightling recommends a school you had better believe it is not a brainwash sweat shop. check it out. The campus is beautiful and the art program ( I'm a wannabe artist) was excellent. That is all I know really and that it is pretty pricey. But not as much as say Choate or Emma Willard ya know. Take care Hope you find what you are looking for. Maybe it's just at home with you :wink:
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If you are looking primarily at boarding schools then Proctor is supposed to be a really good school. I think it is in New Hamshire or Vermont, but I hear the campus is beatiful with its own ski slope and all that jazz. My friend Alex went there for 3 or 4 years before he got expelled and sent to Alldredge. Probably expensive but not nearly as expensive as some of these cult programs
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I have a customer/friend who's little step brother went to Hyde last year.
My friend started hearing some strange stuff and asked me if I knew anything about it. I knew Tommy, so I knew what happened there in the `70's. Jason's right; they don't change their spots, but they do get more adept at working the system.
This was not a "troubled kid", as such. Just a kid who was having a hard time making it accademically and who wanted a more formal, more disciplined environment. He went willingly. They simply told him and his parents what they wanted to hear--nice campus, excellent sports program, etc. They didn't know it at the time, but if they'd said "defiant kid" or "in trouble with law" or some such, they would have gotten a different pitch.
Anyway, they pulled the kid after the first semester when he started talking crazy stuff about how awful he had been and how he couldn't write more or spend time with them cause he had to devote himself more fully to religious salvation.
The parent weekend had been weird enough to get them really concerned. Then they found out about the group punishment when the kid couldn't write or take visitors or some damned thing because some other kid had broken a rule. Then it came out that, instead of brutalizing the kids on-site, they just hold the threat of Redcliff Accademy (wilderness deathmarch) over the kids' heads. And there were, at the time (probably are now), kids in the school who actually got sent to Redcliff and came back with stories to tell and 'that look' in their eye.
I'm glad you did the research to find out about this. I'm only posting this for future reference for people who come along with the same question. I wish I knew of some good boarding schools or something. But I'm just not of that set. The monied branch of my family just came with too many strings attached so I just wouldn't know.
But I think the correct answer is probably different for each kid. Does the kid want a boarding school? How come? Maybe "boarding school" is the only term she can think of to meet whatever needs she has. There are a whole range of other kinds of experiences that might better meet her needs. The important thing would be for her to explore all options ya'll mentoring grown-ups can think of for her and then decide together what would be the best next move.
I hope everything turns out ok for you. Please do stay in touch. We could use a little more contact with folks who don't make the mistakes our families have made.
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Any information about the school would be greatly appreciated. Are there any students who have attended? I would like to hear what you have to say about your experiences. My Sister is sending my Nephew and I am a concerned Aunt. He is Bipolar 16 years old and out of control, he has started to threaten and hit his parents, break up and damage things in the house, etc, etc, some problems with the law, minor but they have his figure prints and he is in their records. The school was recommended by his doctor who says they have a large percentage of sucess with their program. This young man is spoiled to no end and I am concerned he might not be able to get the program, everything has been done for him up to now. He is currently on Rx and the school attempts to have the children off all Rx within 30 days. Any information you have would be appreciated.
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I sent my son to Hyde (Woodstock) for one year...on on the one hand they tell you that it's all your fault ('the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree') and the next minute, they are asking you for a donation. You are right about the teachers (???) too! Don't know much about education from what I could see. The papers my son did in 6th grade were better than the 'papers' he wrote at Hyde...but they will tell you 'it's all about character'....but remember, it's your fault. I'm glad that the truth about this place ($25,000+) is coming out!
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hi,
I just wondered if you found anything out about the Family Foundation School? I am looking at it foer my son and want more info. Thanks
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See Kady's earlier post "STAY AWAY FROM THE FAMILY SCHOOL IN NY!!!!!! "
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Hi, I am glad to see that this issue is being discussed on the web. Where to start... I attended the Hyde school in Bath, Maine in the 90s and had many experiences similar to what tommyfromhyde had in the 70s. My parents decided to send me to the school after I was diagnosed as bipolar and attempted suicide the previous spring. The program promised to "build character" with "the five words and principles" through academics, sports, and performing arts. Besides the sports, I found the aspects of the program Hyde advertises to be quite lacking. The academics were very poor--especially the American history, math and science programs. History was a review of Jr. High, we did not do proofs in our geometry class, and did not balance any more than basic chemical equations (no acid base or redox reactions).
Hyde requires all of their new students to attend a 12 week summer program before entering for the fall term. During my summer at the school I witnessed many acts of both physical and emotional abuse, including a male student being forced to run three miles on a rough dirt road with a broken foot. Only after the run was he allowed to go to the doctor; when he came back he had a cast on for the remainder of the summer. In addition, they sent all of the "really bad kids"--i.e. the kids who were resistant to the program-- to secluded Sequin Island off the coast of Maine. I was sent there and had to clip a 1/2 mile long trail with garden shears, run up and down the same trail at least five times, move boulders 1' in diameter off of the beach, and swim out to a buoy and back in 50* ocean water. When I was allowed to come back to the school campus, I had pneumonia. The faculty at the school ignored all medical complaints from the students--many times resulting in the worsening condition of the child.
During the regular school year, I was disciplined for having sexual relations with my boyfriend (admittedly a bad thing for a 16 year old to do). Instead of addressing the reasons behind my promiscuous behavior (low self-esteem and feeling abandoned and unloved by my parents) they humiliated me in front of the whole school by publicly discussing my actions and setting me apart from the rest of the student body cleaning and participating in harsh workouts (called "2-4") in silence instead of attending my classes. Finally, after a couple of days I refused to participate further with my punishment, and just sat down.
The faculty responded by sending me out to the woods in a program called "outpost"--which is similar to, but not quite as severe as a wilderness program (they work you just as hard but feed you more than S.U.W.S., a wilderness program I attended in Idaho when I was 14). Besides going through further emotional abuse by the faculty member leading the outpost program, I was also deprived of my lithium, an anti-manic drug prescribed to me by my psychiatrist. This made me even more susceptible to their abuse.
In general, Hyde had a very backwards viewpoint on the advances in medical treatment of chemical imbalances, including medication and therapy. They did not monitor whether or not students took their medication, "forgot" to pack my medication both times they sent me to outpost (I was sent again in the spring), and made it very difficult for me to see a therapist off school grounds. In order for me to do so, my psychiatrist had to write a note to the school telling them I had to be allowed to see a psychologist and that their own visiting psychiatrist (who came three times a year) was grossly inadequate for an adolescent who recently was diagnosed as bipolar and had attempted suicide. Even after they reluctantly let me go, they sent me to a therapist of their choosing and wanted me to sign away my doctor-patient privileges, threatening that I had to do so in order to see the therapist. I refused. The faculty didn't push it for too long--we both knew it was illegal for them to require such a thing.
In general, the Hyde School in Bath, Maine participated in many cult-like practices. It was a totalitarian closed system with the head of the school as the sole authoritarian leader with the faculty as his minions. Since most of the FACULTY as well as students had had histories of emotional and/or drug problems, they were susceptible to being controlled through cruel practices of only being shown love, appreciation, and good will if following the "words and principles" as determined by the head of the school through the faculty. A false sense of student participation in the organization of the school was created by so-called "student leaders", who were given special status as long as they helped to spread the "words and principles" and confront students who questioned or did not follow the system as it was determined. These "student leaders" were instilled with the fear of falling from grace by the faculty if they did not do enough confronting and "narc"ing, or if they questioned any part of the practices of the school themselves. This system created an almost political maneuvering within the student body, where no real friendships or other healthy relationships could survive for long. In fact, each student lived in complete isolation and fear of being singled out by their teachers, councilors, and peers--further scarring them and making them even less prepared to work out their problems and become a productive and successful member of society.
In short, instead of giving a troubled adolescent with emotional and/or drug problems a supportive and safe environment to work out their problems while getting back on track emotionally and socially through success in acedemics, extracurricular activities, and social interactions with peers, the Hyde school did the complete opposite.
In the end, the Hyde School only left me one thing: the knowledge that I can survive at least a year in a cult.
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:nworthy:
I was at Hyde in '76-'77 so I have a lot of
questions. This Sequin Island buisiness is new,
this is the first time I've heard of it.
Tell me, do they still tell your parents to lock
you out of the house if you run away?
Also, is a particular sadist named Henry Milton
still a faculty member? I'm sure I'll think of
more.
Peace,
TommyBureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time when the quo has lost its status
--Laurence J. Peter
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Hi, if anyone at all has any information (negetive) of the family foundation school please let me know. Someone very close to me was just sent there and i know he does not belong there, he has no drug or alcohol problems, the only problems he had were in school. Ihave already heard pretty disturbing things about this school and i am afraid for this child. I need as much information as possible!
Thank you
[email protected]
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Kady, you said in one of your messages that you only stayed at the Family School for a short period of time. How long exactly did you stay there because i was told that the allowed minimum stay was 18 months! my bestfriend/boyfriend of 2 years was sent there about a month ago, and if i really believed that he needed help and should be there this would be a lot easier for me to deal with. I am genuinly worried about him and his emotional health. So please any other information you may have let me know!
thanks!
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Hi, I am sixteen yrs. old, and If you are looking for a school for a teen in recovery of a drug addiction I suggest you look into Phoenix House Academy in Westchester. However, you mentioned she didnt want to live in NY anymore. There are other facilities other places, such as California, etc. Look into it. I recommend it because I am being sent there, and its a theraputic community. Its alot nicer than most of these bullshit schools.
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Anything new about either of these schools? I've notice there are only a handful of these schools across the Northeast part of the US; they must be doing something right with regards to working the system
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Here's a recent update.
Aug. 21, 2004
I met a mom who took her daughter out of Family Foundation. The teen was there for over a year. For almost eight months she had been trying to get her daughter out. They make it very hard and create a very intnese guilt trip when you want to remove your child before 18 months.
FF was willing to take this child who was beyond there scope and abilities to treat or help. The school might do well with druggies who buy into the 12 step philosophy and do not need on going therapy or psychiatric treatment (I think most troubled teen need family therapy not just 12 step program). Anyhow, This teen was diagnosed by her doctors at home with early onset of childhood bipolar and she had an eating disorder. Her life had been complete unmanageable running away sleeping on the streets of Manhattan and very, very dangerous and threatening to family, school teachers and herself..
At the Family foundation they wanted her off medicine as soon as she got there!!
They finally put her back on the medication. But She was not adequately maintained on the full therapeutic doses or monitored properly, she continued to have serious mental and emotional difficulties.
The worst part for this family was that they continuously "shunned" her daughter, the whole community did this for weeks on end even when the mom went to pick her daughter up at the school to leave. No one (staff or kids) were allowed to say good, wave to her, or hug her good bye.
Her daughter is home and still very manic but not dangerous. She was put back on the appropriate adequate doses of her medication. She will be attending a therapeutic school week boarding / day school and have on going care from a psychiatrist and family therapist. This level of care at home had not worked before the Family Foundation placement and they are hoping for the best now.
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The family foundation school is realllly bad. I went to Swift River (another shithole) but my friend there came from The Family school. She saw a boy commit suicide by jumping off one of the buildings and his head crack open in front of her, his blood got on her clothes. She was obvously very upset and traumatized, so she was restrained, drugged, and put in the isolation room becaause she was "out of control". The isolation room was one room where she had to stand constantly. It was never cleaned, piss was on the floor, and a camera watched everything she did. food was handed to her thru a slit in the door 3 times a day, like in the count of monte cristo or something. she got 1hr per day to sit. she was in there 3 days. jesus christ we are teenagers, you could get more humane treatment at some prisons
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I just wanted to say that I'm 29, graduated from Hyde in 1994, and the things people are saying about the school in this thread are RIDICULOUS. Hyde is a wonderful place and got me back on the right track and helped me to realize that integrity needs to come way before anything else in life. I went on to Hamilton College, taught for a few years, and am now a reporter for a local (rhode island) newspaper. Get your facts straight, people.
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On 2004-09-22 11:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I just wanted to say that I'm 29, graduated from Hyde in 1994, and the things people are saying about the school in this thread are RIDICULOUS. Hyde is a wonderful place and got me back on the right track and helped me to realize that integrity needs to come way before anything else in life. I went on to Hamilton College, taught for a few years, and am now a reporter for a local (rhode island) newspaper. Get your facts straight, people."
What facts do I not have straight? Are people
who aren't brainwashed enough not put on two-four
work crew anymore? Are parents whose kids don't
like Hyde not being told to throw their kids out?
Are parents who don't fork over huge "donations"
- AFTER paying the huge tuition- not reamed out as "deadbeats" anymore? Are people not being
forced to work out to the point of injury and
then being forced to work out injured? (After
being accused of "faking it" of course). Are
people not being encouraged to rat each other out
for every petty little thing?
BTW I went to Hyde too in 1976.
Peace,
TommyHe who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
--Albert Einstein
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i'm literally sitting in the hyde school computer lab reading this right now. This school is not a bad place at all. The 2-4 work crew that was talked about is a punishment lasting usually a few days, NEVER months. and the labor is never hard, just boring. to get on 2-4 you just have to do drugs, have sex, cheat, or lie. the rules are easy enough to abide by.
i came here after spending 6 months at the family school. now THAT place is hell on earth, i replied to a post above with some comments on that. but please parents, do NOT send your kids there. it is a miserable place, and no kid deserves it. e-mail me for more information. [email protected]
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Lie about what? How do you determine the kid is lying? Most of these places determine a kid is lying whenever they say anything they don't want to hear.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
-- Hunter S. Thompson
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How does ANYONE get in trouble for lying? Your statements are based on no facts, so i won't even bother disputing with you.
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On 2004-09-27 09:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"How does ANYONE get in trouble for lying? Your statements are based on no facts, so i won't even bother disputing with you."
This is how one gets in trouble for lying at Hyde
(at least in 1976). Some kid is in trouble for
having a "bad attitude", so the Dean of Students
(then Henry Milton) gives the kid a shovel and
orders said kid to dig a 6'x6'x6' hole. Kid digs
said hole. Milton comes out with a tapemeasure
and pronounces the hole to be an inch too big
or an inch too small. Kid is LYING. So kid is
ordered to fill in hole and dig it again (and
again and again and again).A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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Just to give you all a sense of some proportion,
I'm not saying that Hyde's "as bad" as some of
the sicker programs discussed on this board but
they're bad enough. Call 'em a 4 or 5 on the
abuse-o-meter with Straight,Inc or WWASPS as
a baseline 10. And if the kids don't brainwash
easy then there's always the threat of WWASPS
or wilderness which wasn't a threat back in '76.
Also in retrospect maybe the guy who said that
work crew doesn't last as long as it used to may
be right, they seem to have other threats now.
In addition to the harsher program threat someone
way up the thread said something about "outpost"
which I never heard of then. If anyone can give
more detail about that please post.
This link's been posted previously but it's way
down page now so... *bump*
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... 41107.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/lettertoeditor/reamersiegel041107.html)
Thanks Deborah, you found that one before I did.
The part about the seminars should sound familiar
to many here. I was once ripped to shreds in
seminar because I had come in ahead of another
unathletic kid who had a cold or something in
a cross country meet.
The gist of that was that I had unfairly taken
advantage of this kid's cold to avoid the cold
shower that was the lot of the last Hyde kid
across the line (usually me). We were running
against Phillips/Exeter and lost so there was
alot of acrimony anyway. Shame on Exeter and the
rest of the traditional boarding schools for
lending their hard won respectability to a
punitive boarding school like Hyde by playing
them in sports. Hyde's been known to punish kids
for losing at sports. No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the sources of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.
P. J. O'Rourke
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I attended Hyde Woodstock from the years of 1999 to 2002 and I can attest that everything said about Hyde here is true. There are no embellishments. The truth is enough in this situation. The staff were incompetent, the teaching was inadaquete, well meaning teachers commonly became disgruntled and eventually left. Poor quality individuals would not leave, "bleeding" the school of anybody who would treat the children there decently year after year. The children there suffered from neglect and abuse from being left alone in a cruel beurocracy. It was like Oliver Twist. A child left in the Hyde School was basically left there to fend for him or herself. To truly succeed in Hyde meant to disregard information coming from teachers, peers, and all "morality" being pushed at you. To succeed, one would have to create a barrier between oneself and the rest of the "world". There was no other world but Hyde. It was isolated. Nothing came in and nothing went out. It was very hard sometimes for me. I was sent to this program after being sent to CEDU's ASCENT program. I wish I could kill some of these people who were in charge with a big M4 rifle sometimes. Anyway, Semper Fi, carry on.
O-P-P
(Yeah, you know me)
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matt siler, shut the fuck up, hyde sucks, and you know it! od, who are you? so i can llok at the pic's hanging up in the gym. matt, go jump off a cliff....
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Who's Matt Siler?
O senseless man, who cannot possibly make a worm and yet will make Gods by the dozen!
--Michel Eyqyem de Montaigne, French essayist
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I am still in my 20's and I don't even remember many of my high school teachers' names, let alone search for an internet site to talk crap about them.
I too didn't enjoy high school, but I sure am not going to hold a chip on my shoulder for 30 years.
Tommy, you are 43 years old...it is time to move on. I don't know if I should laugh at these posts or feel sorry for you.
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My purpose isn't to "talk crap about high school
teachers" but to warn people away from an
abusive, sadistic cult. I have yet to see a
high school that forces people to spend a month
digging their own graves and filling them back in
again over and over for having a "bad attitude".I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard was not what I meant.
---Richard Nixon
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i go to hyde. it sucks!
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THe Hyde school is not one with which I am familiar, however, my step daughter is about to graduate from the The Family Foundation School. She did receive a fine education at the school. She has also learned about self-control. There has always been difficulty getting in touch with people there AND they never call back. This has been very frustrating, because you want to know what's going on with your child, and how the situation is being handled. We have been left in the dark, frequently having to beg for a return call. I hope you find the right school for your situation.
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Larry -
Maybe your time would be better spent trying to figure out your life instead of creating Anti-Hyde sites.
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On 2005-06-23 21:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Larry -
Maybe your time would be better spent trying to figure out your life instead of creating Anti-Hyde sites. "
Why not do both? LOL :rofl: Faith, as well intentioned as it may be, must be built on facts, not fiction- faith in fiction is a damnable false hope.
--Thomas Edison, American inventor
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Hey Tommy,
I was at Hyde in 76 who are you?
Hope to hear from you!
Dave Bilder
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On 2005-06-25 11:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey Tommy,
I was at Hyde in 76 who are you?
Hope to hear from you!
Dave Bilder"
Tom Allan aka Space Case or Space.
I arrived in the middle of summer school and ran
away 3 times Jan 1977.The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people equally in war and peace. And covers with the shield of it's protection all classes of men at all times and under all circumstances.
--US Supreme Court, Ex Parte Milligan
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On 2004-09-25 05:17:00, The_Reverend wrote:
"i'm literally sitting in the hyde school computer lab reading this right now. This school is not a bad place at all. The 2-4 work crew that was talked about is a punishment lasting usually a few days, NEVER months. and the labor is never hard, just boring. to get on 2-4 you just have to do drugs, have sex, cheat, or lie. the rules are easy enough to abide by.
i came here after spending 6 months at the family school. now THAT place is hell on earth, i replied to a post above with some comments on that. but please parents, do NOT send your kids there. it is a miserable place, and no kid deserves it. e-mail me for more information. [email protected]"
Matt, you're great... you've grown up so much...but why are you looking at this site when you are suppoed to be at summer ex? *wink*
And in response to everyone else...2-4 is not that intense. Kids get put on 2-4 for doing cocaine, when 90% of schools in america would kick you out.
Attitude graves are not done anymore, that was left back in the 70s. but is it really that big of a deal to just dig a hole? honestly, if you broke ethics, you knew you were gonna end up on 2-4 so why are you whining?
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And in response to everyone else...2-4 is not that intense. Kids get put on 2-4 for doing cocaine, when 90% of schools in america would kick you out.
Attitude graves are not done anymore, that was left back in the 70s. but is it really that big of a deal to just dig a hole? honestly, if you broke ethics, you knew you were gonna end up on 2-4 so why are you whining?"
Wow, they must have toned down 2-4 since I was
there - and yes I was there in the 70s. But now
I'm hearin' that Hyde's subcontracting a lot of
the worst abuse to an outfit called Redcliff in
Utah. And it wasn't "just digging a hole". You dug
the same damn hole over and over again.
Also I never heard about anyone using cocaine when
I was there. The no-expulsion policy is there
because at Hyde, as in prison, people WANT to
get kicked out.If I am of the opinion that it is inexpedient to assign to the government the task of operating railroads, hotels, or mines, I am not an "enemy of the state" any more than I can be called an enemy of sulfuric acid because I am of the opinion that, useful though it may be for many purposes, it is not suitable either for drinking, or for washing one's hands.
Ludwig Von Mises
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Did you end up sending your duaghter there? I'm about to enroll my son. It seemed really nice but I might be way too naive.
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i have just recently taken the anti hyde site off the web because as much as i hate the school its given me way to many chances and i abused them each time. simply put is that i need what the school has to offer.
to those who hate hyde, thats fine with me. to those who like hyde, there is nothing wrong with that but i cant crap on something that offered to help me.
-larry61122 (if anyone dosnt like my opinion, it dosnt matter im not you!)
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On 2005-03-28 12:32:00, Oppositional Defiance wrote:
"I attended Hyde Woodstock from the years of 1999 to 2002 and I can attest that everything said about Hyde here is true. There are no embellishments. The truth is enough in this situation. The staff were incompetent, the teaching was inadaquete, well meaning teachers commonly became disgruntled and eventually left. Poor quality individuals would not leave, "bleeding" the school of anybody who would treat the children there decently year after year. The children there suffered from neglect and abuse from being left alone in a cruel beurocracy. It was like Oliver Twist. A child left in the Hyde School was basically left there to fend for him or herself. To truly succeed in Hyde meant to disregard information coming from teachers, peers, and all "morality" being pushed at you. To succeed, one would have to create a barrier between oneself and the rest of the "world". There was no other world but Hyde. It was isolated. Nothing came in and nothing went out. It was very hard sometimes for me. I was sent to this program after being sent to CEDU's ASCENT program. I wish I could kill some of these people who were in charge with a big M4 rifle sometimes. Anyway, Semper Fi, carry on.
O-P-P
(Yeah, you know me)
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Interesting, you attended Hyde Woodstock the same years as my brother...who graduated in 2002...you probably didn't like him, considering what you said, but he's the shit.
Anyways, everything that people have to say on this board is so ridiculous it makes me shudder...people lie, and know that 2-4 is a consequence...so what the fuck are you guys whining about?
I got through it successfully, and I wasn't a baby about it, and no i'm not brainwashed, in fact I'm pretty individalistic and opinionated, I just know how to act mature.
Don't blame Hyde for your own bullshit - it's not helping you or anyone.
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BRAVO!!!!!
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On 2005-09-27 22:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Interesting, you attended Hyde Woodstock the same years as my brother...who graduated in 2002...you probably didn't like him, considering what you said, but he's the shit.
Anyways, everything that people have to say on this board is so ridiculous it makes me shudder...people lie, and know that 2-4 is a consequence...so what the fuck are you guys whining about?
I got through it successfully, and I wasn't a baby about it, and no i'm not brainwashed, in fact I'm pretty individalistic and opinionated, I just know how to act mature.
Don't blame Hyde for your own bullshit - it's not helping you or anyone."
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On 2005-09-27 22:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Anyways, everything that people have to say on this board is so ridiculous it makes me shudder...people lie, and know that 2-4 is a consequence...so what the fuck are you guys whining about?
I got through it successfully, and I wasn't a baby about it, and no i'm not brainwashed, in fact I'm pretty individalistic and opinionated, I just know how to act mature.
Don't blame Hyde for your own bullshit - it's not helping you or anyone."
I was there and it isn't ridiculous what people have to say. A feeling is a feeling and if Hyde made someone uncomfortable then this is a legitimate feeling. If you notice the "hydettes" all use the same phrases and sound exactly alike. This is what most people call a form of brainwashing or Cult like. You can look at these "anonymous" posts and tell who was brainwashed by the way they speak. Maybe you got out of Hyde without scars, but many don't! As it has been said, Hyde isn't for everyone. It is for the very weak families who need a crutch and need Joe Gauld to Preach to them as their Leader. There are Hyde Followers, but there are many more who are not. Ones who got out before the school damaged their son or daughter.
It is obvious from all the posts that most of the student body have severe issues like drugs, alcohol, and out of control behavior. It is also obvious that a normal struggling teenager does not belong in a place like this unless the parents don't know how to parent and need a Cult to help guide them!!
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I went to the family school for 25 months. During which, my hair was cut off because im "vain" and was forced to have short hair, my clothes taken, was not allowed to speak to boys or male staff because im a "slut",i gained 45 pounds in 5 months, was forced to clean sludge off poles from the bottom of a pond where sewage flows into because one of the older girls said i was being audacious. was told that im nothing more than a tissue that guys use me and throw me away, i was likened to a blow up doll, and my birthmother was called a whore. This was all during what they call table topics infront of a good 40 people. NOW... i am 24 years old.. i left there 5 years ago and i still have dreams about that place. All the stuff about the isolation room is true except before they built the rooms off the gym they used to wrap you in a blanket and duct tape you inside it... let you pee on yourself... they didnt care. I wont say that that place is total hell there were two angels there... i mean probably litteral angels... Jan Becker and Susan Runge, two of the most wonderful women in the world. Jan left a couple of months ago... but without those two women i would have never made it. but if you are a parent I urge you... DO NOT SEND YOUR KID TO THE FAMILY!!!!! there are much better places for your child. like in your arms. STOP INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE!!!!!!!!!! love your children... UNCONDITIONALLY!!!!!
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I do understand them wanting to get kids off meds... but their alternatives arent that good either. CONFRONTAION... is the name of their game. yell in your face, embarass you humiliate you make you cry. WHY? because you did drugs had sex and diidnt go to school you yelled at your mother punched your father and broke stuff. so they yell at you tell you your a slut and a druggie and make your parents out to be saints.
What about the head of family 6 paul geer. A self admitted recovering sex addict who tells stories infront of co-ed groups of teens about constant masterbation and eating... how he would ge to peep shows... then would tell resentful stories about his father and how he drank... but then would welcome him to our lunch table everyday and falsely admit his love for him to his face.
All the counselors are recovering in some way. this can be good... but mostly at the family is like having convicted child molesters teach kindergarden. This place was insane. And the reason i say insane is because the deffinition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results (they taught me that) and i dont think they know what they are doing either. since last year when a kid jumped off the 3rd floor of the bulding during the middle of what they call "table topics" Their prized winner in turnaround for the youthful students at the prestigious family foundation school. Tony argiros is a nut and i frown at his efforts to change the youth at that school. The founding father of the family... Tony... whos visits with thwe kids consist of telling us how much he loved his wife how much he used to jerk off and cheat and also how he now loves his wife... "TONY LOVES BETTY" he'd shout after in public recalling a time hed cheated on her and gambled. Well "jonie loves chachie" and im glad i dont live with you whack a loons anymore [email protected]
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It would be great if the Family Foundation School had it's own board. Although Hyde has it's problems it certainly isn't this bad. I suggest the kids from Family Foundation make their own board that would be more visable to those looking for it.
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Good idea. This thread was started on the Troubled Teen Industry board
by a parent looking at both Hyde and FFS.
It was moved over here when a seperate Hyde board was started.for it is a truth, which the experience of all ages has attested, that the people are commonly most in danger when the means of insuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.
--Alexander Hamilton
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On 2005-05-27 03:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
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I am still in my 20's and I don't even remember many of my high school teachers' names, let alone search for an internet site to talk crap about them.
I too didn't enjoy high school, but I sure am not going to hold a chip on my shoulder for 30 years.
Tommy, you are 43 years old...it is time to move on. I don't know if I should laugh at these posts or feel sorry for you.
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Ditto
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I have no experience with this "family foundation" school, but if it's anything like the school in Bath, it's bad news.
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I went to the family school from nov 03 until i turned 18 and left in june 05. it was crazy - all the things people are saying really arent BS. i was a teenager being yelled at for looking at girls, jerking off, and wanting to listen to "negative (influentially)" rap music. also for just looking at this one girl i got yelled at and sweared at and provoked until i tried to walk out of the room and then they'd force me into the isolation room (solitary confinement) and would not be fed. the policy was your grades control how much food you can eat whether you can eat a decent portion, candy, etc. the rule was they can give u "alternative food" (a soy burger still cold in the microwave for 30 seconds); still they wouldnt even feed me that to that point where id get dizzy and feel like i was gonna faint (no lie.) also the previous comment about the teachers is true. my one teacher Jim Kavarnos would tell us in physics class about how he escaped from prison and was an ex-con himself and glorified it to a very hypocritical extent. also my one "family" staff member mike ducey would speak about how he used to jerk off on subways publically and has been in strait-jackets before ; he is the head of admissions so you will speak with him when enrollin your child there- ask him see what he says. in conclusion, many staff memebers too many to go into detail about are ex-convicts and the many of the teachers are not certified at all and do not even have a teaching certification, so if you have any questions feel free to contact anyone in the FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL Group of Myspace which you can find at http://www.myspace.com (http://www.myspace.com) and by simply searching for the family foundation school
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FUCK OFF.
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On 2005-12-24 22:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"FUCK OFF.
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who the fuck is this wats wrong with tellin the truth about the school huh????? wats the problem say shit to my face pussy
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:wstupid: :roll:
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hey steve... why don't you stop talking shit and being a little bitch. your not a tough guy. srop this shit.
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On 2005-12-29 18:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"hey steve... why don't you stop talking shit and being a little bitch. your not a tough guy. srop this shit."
You werent even talking about Hyde, get lost fucker, let this Hyde thread slowly die and go away forever, its very close as it is...
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THIS HYDE BOARD WILL NOT GO AWAY, AND PARENTS AND FORMER STUDENTS WILL MAKE SURE OF IT!! HYDE IS A TERRIBLE SITUATION FOR ANY CHILD OR FAMILY TO EXPERIENCE. WITH ALL THE INTELLIGENCE OUT THERE, EVENTUALLY HYDE WILL BE FOUND OUT. WE NEED AS A GROUP OF CONCERNED PARENTS TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS FOR THESE "UNREGULATED, PRIVATE, SCHOOLS" THAT REALLY JUST "DAMAGE" OUR CHILDREN AND EMPTY OUR BANK ACCOUNTS. HYDE DOES NOT HAVE ONE LISCENCED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL ON STAFF?????? YET THEY ENROLL CHILDREN WITH VARIED MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES???? THERE ALSO IS NO DOCTOR ON STAFF?? AND A SCHOOL NURSE DISPENSING MED'S???? YET THERE ARE MANY CHILDREN ENROLLED WHO ARE ON MEDICATIONS. DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE???? MANY TEACHERS ARE STRAIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE, WITH NO EXPERIENCE, WALKING INTO A SITUATIO WHERE KIDS ARE REALLY "INVOLVED" AND NEED SOMEONE TO FACILITATE WITH EXPERIENCE. SO CALLED "THERAPY SESSIONS" ARE RUN BY GENERAL STAFF, NO ONE WITH A DEGREE??? THIS SCHOOL, IF WE CAN CALL IT THAT, IS UP AND RUNNING BECAUSE PARENTS ARE DESPERATE AND SCARED ABD WILL DO ANYTHING TO HELP THEIR KIDS.IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILTY TO TAKE THIS TYPE OF FACILITIES "OUT". A GROUP JUST APPEARED BEFORE CONGRESS DISCUSSING JUST THIS - THE REGULATING OF THESE SO CALLED PRIVATE, EMOTIONAL GROWTH, CHARACTER DEVELOPING SCHOOLS.IT IS UP TO US, ALL OF US, TO KEEP THE QUESTIONS COMING, AND BE AS LOUD AS WE CAN BE, SO THAT CHANGE CAN HAPPEN. OUR KIDS FUTURES ARE AT STAKE.
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On 2005-12-29 19:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"THIS HYDE BOARD WILL NOT GO AWAY, AND PARENTS AND FORMER STUDENTS WILL MAKE SURE OF IT!! HYDE IS A TERRIBLE SITUATION FOR ANY CHILD OR FAMILY TO EXPERIENCE. WITH ALL THE INTELLIGENCE OUT THERE, EVENTUALLY HYDE WILL BE FOUND OUT. WE NEED AS A GROUP OF CONCERNED PARENTS TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS FOR THESE "UNREGULATED, PRIVATE, SCHOOLS" THAT REALLY JUST "DAMAGE" OUR CHILDREN AND EMPTY OUR BANK ACCOUNTS. HYDE DOES NOT HAVE ONE LISCENCED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL ON STAFF?????? YET THEY ENROLL CHILDREN WITH VARIED MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES???? THERE ALSO IS NO DOCTOR ON STAFF?? AND A SCHOOL NURSE DISPENSING MED'S???? YET THERE ARE MANY CHILDREN ENROLLED WHO ARE ON MEDICATIONS. DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE???? MANY TEACHERS ARE STRAIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE, WITH NO EXPERIENCE, WALKING INTO A SITUATIO WHERE KIDS ARE REALLY "INVOLVED" AND NEED SOMEONE TO FACILITATE WITH EXPERIENCE. SO CALLED "THERAPY SESSIONS" ARE RUN BY GENERAL STAFF, NO ONE WITH A DEGREE??? THIS SCHOOL, IF WE CAN CALL IT THAT, IS UP AND RUNNING BECAUSE PARENTS ARE DESPERATE AND SCARED ABD WILL DO ANYTHING TO HELP THEIR KIDS.IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILTY TO TAKE THIS TYPE OF FACILITIES "OUT". A GROUP JUST APPEARED BEFORE CONGRESS DISCUSSING JUST THIS - THE REGULATING OF THESE SO CALLED PRIVATE, EMOTIONAL GROWTH, CHARACTER DEVELOPING SCHOOLS.IT IS UP TO US, ALL OF US, TO KEEP THE QUESTIONS COMING, AND BE AS LOUD AS WE CAN BE, SO THAT CHANGE CAN HAPPEN. OUR KIDS FUTURES ARE AT STAKE. "
You're right -- this website about Hyde is not likely to go away. What's happened is that many people got a lot of their strong negative feelings about Hyde off their chests. That's why it's slowing down some - no need for people to repeat themselves. I assure you, however, that there are enough people out there who are determined to spread the word about Hyde that this will not go away. It may be slower, and that's just fine. It can take months of intense work to create a work of art. Then it gets put on display and people visit it, reflect on it, and talk about it. That's what has happened here - lots of people have done the intense work of putting their thoughts and feelings on display. Now some of these people are slowing down to let others review what they've displayed. It's only natural. Eventually newer comments about Hyde will emerge.
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is the family school that bad?
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It's a great school. :wave:
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Please lets not post on this board about Hyde. What happens is that when someone googles, "the Family Foundation School" they come to this because the original poster was talking about Family School. All messages about Hyde should be talked about on another thread!
Thank you
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Yes the family school is THAT bad. You can't go to the bathroom by yourself, 4 minute showers, must finish everything on your plate and if you dont they will make you eat it for your next meal and they wont give you a new meal until it's done, you can get put in the corner, taken out of school all day and be forced to do physical labor, stand all day only being allowed to sit the last 10 minutes of every hour.......the list goes on :sad:
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talk about this on the Family School thread...keep it outta here!!
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I am a former Hyde student, I lived there for two years in the early eighties, and I did not graduate with a Hyde diploma but received a high school degree.
I wasn't "troubled, drug abusing, or one step away from jail" when I enrolled and I didn't want to go, but I was very unhappy at home and my folks made me go to Hyde. I had been attending a public school that allowed me to hide in the corner and none of the faculty pushed me to achieve or challenged me in any way. I didn't participate in any extracurricular activities. Hyde made me participate in athletics, theatre, and those experiences made me a much better person. In fact I have had a life long participation in club sports and am now coaching High school athletes because I learned what team sports are really about while at Hyde.
My experience wasn't perfect and I still wish I had done some things differently while I was there, but I am a much, much better person now because of my time at Hyde school.
The people who are posting messages here should sign your name to your statements. I have a really difficult time accepting what people say anonymously. To make statements such as I am reading here on this message board, and not be willing to say who you are is cowardly.
State your name and your history at or with the school so people can judge your statements and evaluate the accuracy of those statements based upon the writers' prejudices.
Stephen Long
Hyde School Student 1980/81
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On 2006-01-25 09:44:00, StephenLong wrote:
"I am a former Hyde student, I lived there for two years in the early eighties, and I did not graduate with a Hyde diploma but received a high school degree.
I wasn't "troubled, drug abusing, or one step away from jail" when I enrolled and I didn't want to go, but I was very unhappy at home and my folks made me go to Hyde. I had been attending a public school that allowed me to hide in the corner and none of the faculty pushed me to achieve or challenged me in any way. I didn't participate in any extracurricular activities. Hyde made me participate in athletics, theatre, and those experiences made me a much better person. In fact I have had a life long participation in club sports and am now coaching High school athletes because I learned what team sports are really about while at Hyde.
My experience wasn't perfect and I still wish I had done some things differently while I was there, but I am a much, much better person now because of my time at Hyde school.
The people who are posting messages here should sign your name to your statements. I have a really difficult time accepting what people say anonymously. To make statements such as I am reading here on this message board, and not be willing to say who you are is cowardly.
State your name and your history at or with the school so people can judge your statements and evaluate the accuracy of those statements based upon the writers' prejudices.
Stephen Long
Hyde School Student 1980/81
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I am glad to hear that you had a positive Hyde experience. Unfortunately, many students don't, as this website demonstrates. The Hyde student body seems to have changed considerably since you were there. The school now enrolls significant numbers of kids with major mental health, substance abuse, and behavioral issues. Many of us question the school's ability to meet the needs of those students.
I understand you want all of us to post our identity. For me there's a simple explanation for my anonymity: I've heard too many stories about kids at Hyde being harrassed when their parents speak out against Hyde or challenge the school's administrators. That's not a risk I'm willing to take at this point; I have lots of reasons not to trust Hyde. I have to balance my concerns about possible mistreatment with my strong belief that people who are considering Hyde need to see these postings. I understand full disclosure would be preferable; I may do that later, but I can't take that risk now. In the meantime, I would encourage anyone who reads these posts to ask hard questions of Hyde staff, talk with parents of current/former students, assess the parents' credibility, and decide whether Hyde makes sense for their child. In my humble opinion, sending a child to Hyde is a serious risk in many, if not most, instances. I have little confidence in the school's ability to meet the needs of significant numbers of its students.
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Oh shut the fuck up already, like Hyde would waste their time by calling and harassing you because you post on a little message board?! Get a grip, and stop being so vindictive against ANYONE who post's anything remotely against the way you feel..It's so obvious from the body and tone of your responses its *YOU* TIME AND TIME AGAIN..Shut the fuck up..Anti-Hyde cry baby! ::mecry:: :lol:
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On 2006-01-24 22:07:00, Anonymous1 wrote:
"Yes the family school is THAT bad. You can't go to the bathroom by yourself, 4 minute showers, must finish everything on your plate and if you dont they will make you eat it for your next meal and they wont give you a new meal until it's done, you can get put in the corner, taken out of school all day and be forced to do physical labor, stand all day only being allowed to sit the last 10 minutes of every hour.......the list goes on :sad: "
Heres a tissue, cry!
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To the contrary, I believe the vast majority of people who attend Hyde have a positive experience and get a very good education.
The people who are posting negative messages are a vocal minority who had a bad experience and are not necessarily willing to admit to their own failings.
I was there for two full years and one summer session. I did more than my share of time on workcrew and 2-4, and never, ever saw the abuses that are being cited repeatedly here. If you committed a major offense (stealing, drug use, cheating, etc) you would be put on workcrew and made to do mindless boring tasks in order to be punished, but also to give you time to think about what you had done and how it effects your friends and family.
The typical task would be to move a wood pile from the north end of the dorm to the south end of the dorm, then back again or to dig a hole 6 feet square then fill it back in after you were done. I was given the wonderful task of raking the lawn in front of the mansion, which is several acres in size at least, all by myself on a windy fall day! No one was threatened, physically abused or emotionally abused and no one was forced to remain at Hyde against their will. It is a school, not a prison and if you were really unhappy there you could just leave.
The teachers and staff were working hard to help students learn how to become strong, confident and positive members of society. Sure you might miss a few classes, and maybe get behind in schoolwork while dealing with such important behavioral problems, but sometimes you have to make choices about things like this in real life as well.
Again, I consider the source whenever I hear something positive or negative about anything, and if people are unwilling to stand up for what they say I find it difficult to lend their statements too much credence. Especially those who post using foul language and making outrageous statements.
Stephen
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Our daughter and family went to Hyde School, Woodstock, CT, for four years, 2000-2005. We have no regrets, except that we didn't start sooner. Hyde gives priority to family and Character development. Check them out: http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?section=Adm ... +Challenge (http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?section=Admissions&name=Summer+Challenge)
Try Summer Challenge for a month:
SUMMER CHALLENGE (For Non-Hyde, Prospective, and New Hyde Students) July 10 - August 13, 2006
Summer Challenge is for teenagers, ages 14 - 18, who are looking for fun and challenging experiences. This program blends thrilling outdoor experiences with a dynamic character development program in which participants have the opportunity to connect with the positive influences that will drive them toward reaching their highest potential.
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On 2006-01-25 18:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Our daughter and family went to Hyde School, Woodstock, CT, for four years, 2000-2005. We have no regrets, except that we didn't start sooner. Hyde gives priority to family and Character development. Check them out: http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?section=Adm ... +Challenge (http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?section=Admissions&name=Summer+Challenge)
Try Summer Challenge for a month:
SUMMER CHALLENGE (For Non-Hyde, Prospective, and New Hyde Students) July 10 - August 13, 2006
Summer Challenge is for teenagers, ages 14 - 18, who are looking for fun and challenging experiences. This program blends thrilling outdoor experiences with a dynamic character development program in which participants have the opportunity to connect with the positive influences that will drive them toward reaching their highest potential."
This is a PERFECT example of the kind of misleading rhetoric Hyde distributes. Notice how this message does not say one word about the fact that the vast majority of students who enroll at Hyde and in Summer Challenge are "turnaround" kids who come to the school with major behavioral and/or mental health and/or substance abuse issues. This is exactly the kind of propaganda that misled our family into enrolling our child in Summer Challenge. It took us several months to figure out that Hyde had not been honest with us about the students it enrolls and the way it operates.
Any naive parent who reads this publicity statement about Hyde's program would think this is like summer camp with an outward bound component included. It sounds great, the sort of place for a wonderful experience with high functioning kids. Imagine all the surprised parents (like us) who then discover what kinds of kids end up enrolling at Hyde and the reasons why. I am all in favor of Hyde's students getting the help they need; Hyde's deceptive practices aren't their fault or responsibility. This PR statement is a remarkable example of misleading advertising.
I have now attended many Hyde events where staff preach "truth over harmony" and the importance of honesty. Doesn't it seem ironic that Hyde would be so dishonest about its own programs?
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Vocal minority!!!!!
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On 2006-01-26 06:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Vocal minority!!!!!"
Exactly! :wink:
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Is it difficult sometimes to remember that the Very Vocal Minority doesn't represent the Silent But Humongous Majority?
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On 2006-01-25 18:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Our daughter and family went to Hyde School, Woodstock, CT, for four years, 2000-2005. We have no regrets, except that we didn't start sooner. Hyde gives priority to family and Character development. Check them out: http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?section=Adm ... +Challenge (http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?section=Admissions&name=Summer+Challenge)
Try Summer Challenge for a month:
SUMMER CHALLENGE (For Non-Hyde, Prospective, and New Hyde Students) July 10 - August 13, 2006
Summer Challenge is for teenagers, ages 14 - 18, who are looking for fun and challenging experiences. This program blends thrilling outdoor experiences with a dynamic character development program in which participants have the opportunity to connect with the positive influences that will drive them toward reaching their highest potential."
The description of Summer Challenge is total Bull! It is also a way for Hyde to recruit family's for the upcoming school year. They will tell each family how imperative it is to keep up the momentum and go to Hyde. Then you are sucked in for another $50,000 which you can't get back should things not work out. There is a high percentage of family's who get themselves into a position of knowing Hyde is no good for them and wanting to leave, but feeling stuck unless they can afford to walk away from that kind of money!
Hyde is NO SUMMER CAMP for developing character. Character begins at home! Save yourself the money and seek local counseling from a good professional and keep your child at home in a good loving environment where you can work together as a family 24-7.
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Vocal minority! Want a tissue?
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On 2006-01-27 10:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Vocal minority! Want a tissue?"
Are you talking about those same tissues that Hyde puts on the floor of the seminar room for the kids and parents who they degrade and humiliate until they burst into tears in front of everyone? Hyde is a Cult and if you don't conform to their way of thinking, you are admonished as the people on this site are doing. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you had a good experience at Hyde, then great, but there are plenty of other people who had bad experiences and are suffering years later. I am not invalidating your feelings, please don't invalidate mine or anyone else who chooses to post on this site!
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I hate the Fucking Family Foundation School in hancock, ny.
hit me up if you agree. i am working on a book to shut that place down.
[email protected]
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If you love your child you would not send them to the family school. I was there for 8 1/2 months. I'm scarred for the rest of my life. My parents regret sending me there. They don't have qualified teachers, they go out of there way to humiliate and degrade their 'students', they mock beliefs that aren't in the christian/judaic realm. I was starved there a punishment. I lost 60 pounds in a period of about 3 months because they didn't give me propper nutrition as a punishment. In place of regular meals, i would get a small helping of microwaveable cream of wheat for breakfast with water, and for dinner,, plain tuna fish sandwhiches. They put you on a 'work sanction', where you do meaningless labor instead of school! They yell, call their students names... they put down the belief system I grew up with... I wasn't there for drugs... I had depression and low self esteem! They don't even know how to do psychological testing! They only give one test, when it usually takes many to make a diagnosis! Please... make sure no one gets sent to that awful place!
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This is a Hyde School board that originally was listed as both Hyde and Family Foundation. If there is not a board for Family Foundation you are welcome to start one on Fornits
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i hate the family school. don't send your kid there.
any questions, email me at [email protected]
grace
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there are many places even worse then hyde, Lockdown schools and certian wilderness programs, places where children are put in isolation rooms and stripped searched, i have heard these stories first hand from student at hyde who came for various lock downs in utah or flordia
Lockdowns have even started outscourceing, putting schools in baja or other places right over the boarder so they dont have to comply with US child labor/abuse laws
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I went to the family foundation school about nine years ago I here they stopped duck taping the kids in blankets and putting them in closets however from what I here the humiliation and degrading has persisted sending my child there would no be an option no matter how troubled or difficult they had become if your child need s help I wish I could suggest a good place you sound like a good person and your doughter already sounds like she is on the right track I don't trust any of these places but my veiw is tainted by the experince I had at the familiy although i exelled at school and sports and theater I can say i would never subject my own child to that sort of treatment for a grade I would rather they get an f and save their spirit and most people get high after they leave there I stayed sober for four years after I left there relapsed and now have 3 years i had to go to therapy about it gotta go back to work