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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« on: October 20, 2010, 09:14:59 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"

I've talked about it here several times.

I never read it before.  


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Of course, you are a liar doing what you do most often - lying.

Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Many kids grow and suffer at home.  Trying to get thru the teenage years is difficult at beast and their ican much pain involved as they grow.

That's the natural process that is supposed to happen.  You guys take that away when you ship these kids off.

 
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The pain and suffering may not be the result of the school but may be natural maturation.  I think we can all point to many kids we knew who grew and matured at home and it wasnt considered a joyous occasion.

I've used this analogy before but it fits.  I was raped when I was 15.  It made me stronger eventually.  I sure would go back in time and remove that night from my life if I could though.  Whatever growth comes from abuse isn't worth it.



 I was referring to the pain and suffering of growing up at home naturally, not kids that were beaten or raped.[/size]  I believe pain and suffering can be a natural process of getting thru the teen years for most kids.

Not only have you read it many times, you responded to it several times as well.  Drop this onto the "Lie Pile" Whooter is building.

He knew it and intentionally made the most hurtful comment he could (calling rape "unprotected sex") for the express purpose of punching Anne in the gut and shutting her down.  It's deplorable that anyone would do this.  But we've come to expect this behavior from Whooter.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 19, 2010, 03:56:45 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I didnt call her names or attack her for having unprotected sex or judge her for having unprotected sex. I pointed out that this was a strain on her family and probably didnt help in her being defined as an at-risk youth.

The problem is that none of what you said is true.  You made it up expressly to hurt Anne.  You did this knowing she was a victim of sexual assault as a child.  You called her rape "unprotected sex," Whooter.  You, sir, are a disgusting troglodyte.  I seriously don't know how you function with all of those snakes squirming in your brain bucket.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 19, 2010, 03:53:39 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I think you would see which one of us turns a blind eye to abuse.

Yeah, it's you.  And you heap it on when you feel like you've been embarassed.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« on: October 19, 2010, 03:49:07 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I havent brought up your activities prior to straight in ages.

You did it yesterday.  What planet do you live on?  

Not only did you bring it up yesterday ("ages ago"), you told a bunch of lies whilst doing it.  What makes you feel like you can comment on the "sex life" of girl 15 years of age?  Were you there?   Do you know her personally?  No, you weren't and you don't, but you felt free to make one up and post it, even though it was full of ugly lies and the sum total of Anne's "sex life" at the age of 15 was being molested and raped, which you callously and disgustingly referred to as "unprotected sex."

I'm sorry, but you said these ugly words out of anger and frustration that you had lost yet another argument on the merits.  You got pissed and you lashed out in the most hurtful way possible, as you normally do (accusing people of beastiality and molesting their children are your common attacks).

Only a severly disturbed person would behave this way.  That's the damnable fact of the matter.  Whooter has dredged the bottom of an all-time low here on Fornits.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« on: October 19, 2010, 02:48:34 PM »
Why, Whooter?  Why do you call people pedophiles and accuse them of bestiality?  Read your own words below and tell us again how you never did this.  Why do you accuse others of doing this when the record is clear that it was you who did it?

And as far as Anne is concerned you have been involved in several threads where she told her personal story.  You were and are aware of her sexual assault.  Then you ridiculed her by calling her rape "unprotected sex."  WHY DID YOU DO THIS?

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
In my experience reading Whooter's posts, whatever he is accusing someone else of is what he himself has actually done, usually many, many times.

To wit:

Pedophilia/Child Molestation
Quote from: "Whooter"
If your point is to just post laws, well, thats easy.  There are thousands of them.  I didnt see where the law you posted was written for AARC.  The one posted pertains to people like yourself who abuse their kids sexually.  At least mine has some credibility.

More pedophilia/Child Molestation
Quote from: "Whooter"
You are sick Ajax13.  Stop molesting and abusing your son.  Just because this poster proved you wrong is no reason to take it out on your own family.  Its only a forum.  Leave your kid in peace.

Bestiality (keep in mind he is posing as "RobertBruce" claiming to engage in bestiality while simultaneously trying to make people believe RobertBruce actually is TheWho, thereby transferring all of his nasty posts onto RobertBruce, so this is a double whammy - a survivor engaged in bestiality and a survivor posting all of TheWho's disgusting posts)

Quote from: "TheWho"
I only do dogs remember? woof, woof. Its me Bruce. Sorry I trolled you all those years and made you look foolish, but I was taking my anger out on you for my time in HLA. I retired TheWhos name to Ursus and now just post under RobertBruce or as a "Guest".

So here is indelible evidence that Whooter routinely accuses people of bestiality and child molestation.  This is only two example of what are many.

Again, we all want to know, why does Whooter do this?  The answer, I'm afraid, is simple - to invalidate abuse victims and take the power of their stories away.

Sometimes he's even more explicit in denying victims of abuse:
Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: ""Guest""
How would you know what a parent thinks, Who? You threw your daughter away to ASR, so you don't have the right to call yourself that anymore, and your continued use of the word is a heavy insult to the real parents reading this forum.

Kinda like the rest of you calling yourself survivors.  Surviving what?  A cush stay at RTC?  Its an insult to people who actually survived something.

Only a very sick mind operates like this and, unfortunately, we here at Fornits have seen that Whooter is an exemplar of the behavior of all program pushers.  They have all had the exact same M.O.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« on: October 19, 2010, 01:02:19 PM »
There is no justification for Whooter's sick machinations.  He cannot blame his own disgusting posts on others.  This is his legacy on Fornits.

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
In my experience reading Whooter's posts, whatever he is accusing someone else of is what he himself has actually done, usually many, many times.

To wit:

Pedophilia/Child Molestation
Quote from: "Whooter"
If your point is to just post laws, well, thats easy.  There are thousands of them.  I didnt see where the law you posted was written for AARC.  The one posted pertains to people like yourself who abuse their kids sexually.  At least mine has some credibility.

More pedophilia/Child Molestation
Quote from: "Whooter"
You are sick Ajax13.  Stop molesting and abusing your son.  Just because this poster proved you wrong is no reason to take it out on your own family.  Its only a forum.  Leave your kid in peace.

Bestiality (keep in mind he is posing as "RobertBruce" claiming to engage in bestiality while simultaneously trying to make people believe RobertBruce actually is TheWho, thereby transferring all of his nasty posts onto RobertBruce, so this is a double whammy - a survivor engaged in bestiality and a survivor posting all of TheWho's disgusting posts)

Quote from: "TheWho"
I only do dogs remember? woof, woof. Its me Bruce. Sorry I trolled you all those years and made you look foolish, but I was taking my anger out on you for my time in HLA. I retired TheWhos name to Ursus and now just post under RobertBruce or as a "Guest".

So here is indelible evidence that Whooter routinely accuses people of bestiality and child molestation.  This is only two example of what are many.

Again, we all want to know, why does Whooter do this?  The answer, I'm afraid, is simple - to invalidate abuse victims and take the power of their stories away.

Sometimes he's even more explicit in denying victims of abuse:
Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: ""Guest""
How would you know what a parent thinks, Who? You threw your daughter away to ASR, so you don't have the right to call yourself that anymore, and your continued use of the word is a heavy insult to the real parents reading this forum.

Kinda like the rest of you calling yourself survivors.  Surviving what?  A cush stay at RTC?  Its an insult to people who actually survived something.

Only a very sick mind operates like this and, unfortunately, we here at Fornits have seen that Whooter is an exemplar of the behavior of all program pushers.  They have all had the exact same M.O.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Troubled Parent Invents Troubled Teen to Show "Success"
« on: October 19, 2010, 12:41:16 PM »
:bump:

Anyone found any more of Whooter's fabricated family members yet?

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Thought Reform / Re: Does Thought Reform Still Happen in the TTI?
« on: October 19, 2010, 12:40:08 PM »
Yes, it most definitely and obviously does.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« on: October 19, 2010, 12:35:54 PM »
In my experience reading Whooter's posts, whatever he is accusing someone else of is what he himself has actually done, usually many, many times.

To wit:

Pedophilia/Child Molestation
Quote from: "Whooter"
If your point is to just post laws, well, thats easy.  There are thousands of them.  I didnt see where the law you posted was written for AARC.  The one posted pertains to people like yourself who abuse their kids sexually.  At least mine has some credibility.

More pedophilia/Child Molestation
Quote from: "Whooter"
You are sick Ajax13.  Stop molesting and abusing your son.  Just because this poster proved you wrong is no reason to take it out on your own family.  Its only a forum.  Leave your kid in peace.

Bestiality (keep in mind he is posing as "RobertBruce" claiming to engage in bestiality while simultaneously trying to make people believe RobertBruce actually is TheWho, thereby transferring all of his nasty posts onto RobertBruce, so this is a double whammy - a survivor engaged in bestiality and a survivor posting all of TheWho's disgusting posts)

Quote from: "TheWho"
I only do dogs remember? woof, woof. Its me Bruce. Sorry I trolled you all those years and made you look foolish, but I was taking my anger out on you for my time in HLA. I retired TheWhos name to Ursus and now just post under RobertBruce or as a "Guest".

So here is indelible evidence that Whooter routinely accuses people of bestiality and child molestation.  This is only two example of what are many.

Again, we all want to know, why does Whooter do this?  The answer, I'm afraid, is simple - to invalidate abuse victims and take the power of their stories away.

Sometimes he's even more explicit in denying victims of abuse:
Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: ""Guest""
How would you know what a parent thinks, Who? You threw your daughter away to ASR, so you don't have the right to call yourself that anymore, and your continued use of the word is a heavy insult to the real parents reading this forum.

Kinda like the rest of you calling yourself survivors.  Surviving what?  A cush stay at RTC?  Its an insult to people who actually survived something.

Only a very sick mind operates like this and, unfortunately, we here at Fornits have seen that Whooter is an exemplar of the behavior of all program pushers.  They have all had the exact same M.O.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 19, 2010, 08:53:41 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I was pointing out that one of the problems is that they exaggerate too much and should be more truthful

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

 :rofl:  :roflmao:  :rofl:  :roflmao:  :rofl:  :roflmao:  :feedtrolls:

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 19, 2010, 08:47:59 AM »
Quote from: "Samara"
Wow, another low blow by Whooter. Surprise.  Always making up stories about people without any conscience whatsover. Bald faced lies. Why do you feel a need to call several people here you've never met pedos? That's pretty much your go-to tactic every time your lies are exposed.  It shows what a sick demented person you are. Dirty from the inside out. You are the lowest of the scum buckets. So much for your supposed claim that you regret some of your shameful lie-fests.

I don't know who WY is, but I am sure that DJ's wife is not embarrassed by YOUR bullshit posts.  No, we'll leave the embarrassment to your family, having a father/son/partner who emotionally rapes people 24/7 for kicks.

And while we're at it, when are the admins changing this forum to: "Whooter's Fucking Playground" with the motto "We Cater to Sick Fucks who Endorse Child Abuse."  

Just a thought.

And a great thought it was, Samara.  Thank you for breaking down Whooter's warped psyche for us.  He's obviously a very sick individual.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« on: October 19, 2010, 08:39:25 AM »
You did this, Whooter.  Nobody else.  Now we just want to know WHY YOU DID IT.  Nobody cares to hear your deflections or excuses.  Just tell us why you treated a rape victim this way.  It appears you did it to destroy her credibility and therefore invalidate her personal story of abuse.  If that's not the reason, just tell us why you did this.

Please save your "other people have done it" excuse for someone who cares.  Would it be OK for you to rape someone because other peole have raped before?  That's your logic and it's abhorrent, frankly.

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
I have been continuously amazed at the lengths pro-program people will go to discredit abuse vicims and smear their character in order to invalidate their personal stories of abuse at programs.

Here's an example of a pro-program poster using this tactic of personal destruction to invalidate the experiences and words of an abuse survivor from one of the most notoriously abusive and harmful programs ever to exist - Straight, Inc.

Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"


Fabricated sons.  Plural.  Or fabricated daughter, singular.  Which is it?

Look, Anne, we have already established that you have not been truthful with the readers here on fornits.  You try to make the readers believe that you were this shy little girl prior to going into a program and they turned you into the foul mouthed person that we read about everyday here who blames the program for your lack of education.  You change your story with the wind and lie about the events that occurred in your program to gain attention.

But the truth is that you dropped out of school started drinking and doing drugs.  You got into car accidents and started hanging out with with kids who were ending up in jail.  You were having unsafe sex and your parents didn’t want to raise their grandchildren while you figured out your life.  Maybe straight wasn’t the best choice, but you were surly at risk and they needed to do something.



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Anne Bonney has been very open about the abuse she suffered inside and outside Straight, including the horrible fact that she was raped as an underaged girl and was blamed for her own rape by the program staff.  She was a young rape victim not old enough to drive or to know anyone in any jails and she was put into Straight where she was dreadfully abused, as all the kids there were, and revictimized.  Whooter knows this story.  Yet he found it fit to comment on Anne's personal history with disgusting false accusations and sexualized aggression toward her.

What is wrong with sadistic cretins like this?

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
Quote from: "Whooter"
I stand behind my posts.

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
Now I'd like to hear your reasons for posting that Anne Bonney was having unprotected sex as an underaged girl. You know she was raped. Was this rape what you're calling "unprotected sex"? You do realize that your average rapist doesn't ask his victim if she wants to have "protected non-consensual sex," right? I'm curious to hear your reasons why you are taking personal potshots of a sexual nature at a rape victim. That's not cool. Did the admin warn you about this deplorable behavior?

Stand behind your posts like a man.  Why did you do this to a person who has told you several times in the past she was raped and the program staff blamed her for it?

What did the mods say to you about it?

Once more, when confronted with his own ugly words and deeds, Whooter scurries away like a plague rat.

He wants to avoid this, but he should not be allowed.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: October 18, 2010, 05:40:39 PM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Another son, huh?  Well well well.  What do we have here?

 :roflmao:



Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Peg Sympson"
First off I’d like to say you post a good argument and if you are the same poster on the other threads I agree with you mostly.  But I would like to say that I have been reading here awhile and know for a fact that Dysfunction Junction is a good guy at heart.  He just gets out of hand sometimes when he loses an argument.  He worked in a program years ago and believes them to be abusive but isn’t articulate enough to express what he is feeling so he resorts to violence and name calling when he loses an argument.  I saw the post where he wanted to punch you out, but again this is a result of his frustration in lack of communication skills.  He has gained credibility here by telling everyone that he is a mental health professional but we all know that professionals in this field don’t resolve their differences through violence and name calling.
Give the guy some space and understand that he is frustrated and angry towards the industry.
  He is not a bad guy and is just looking for people to understand what he went thru.

Thank you Peg, I think you nailed him, although, I dont think he is a mental health professional as you stated.  He may work in the field but not in a professional capacity which is obvious by the way he handles conflict and communicates.  He is just upset because no one wants to meet him in California, the job market is down, most people disagree with him and HLA is coming back under a new name.  So, I agree with you that we all need to give him some space to vent and he then he will go back to his job search soon enough.

A friend of my son was this way.  He always wanted to settle an argument by hitting people and this carried over into his adult life.  To this day he cannot handle it when he is proven wrong or when people disagree with him.  Violence is just ingrained in some people.  Like I said I dont think this Dysfunction Junction is a bad guy he just doesnt know what to do with his anger or how to properly direct it.  It is good to see people like you on here who can keep their cool.

It appears to be another child; a son.  We're not sure yet if it is a flesh and blood child or another fabricated one.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« on: October 18, 2010, 05:36:46 PM »
Why did you post demeaning things about a then-pubescent girl who was already a victim of a terrible sex crime, Whooter?  We just want to know why you post things like this.  Explain yourself.

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
I have been continuously amazed at the lengths pro-program people will go to discredit abuse vicims and smear their character in order to invalidate their personal stories of abuse at programs.

Here's an example of a pro-program poster using this tactic of personal destruction to invalidate the experiences and words of an abuse survivor from one of the most notoriously abusive and harmful programs ever to exist - Straight, Inc.

Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"


Fabricated sons.  Plural.  Or fabricated daughter, singular.  Which is it?

Look, Anne, we have already established that you have not been truthful with the readers here on fornits.  You try to make the readers believe that you were this shy little girl prior to going into a program and they turned you into the foul mouthed person that we read about everyday here who blames the program for your lack of education.  You change your story with the wind and lie about the events that occurred in your program to gain attention.

But the truth is that you dropped out of school started drinking and doing drugs.  You got into car accidents and started hanging out with with kids who were ending up in jail.  You were having unsafe sex and your parents didn’t want to raise their grandchildren while you figured out your life.  Maybe straight wasn’t the best choice, but you were surly at risk and they needed to do something.



...

Anne Bonney has been very open about the abuse she suffered inside and outside Straight, including the horrible fact that she was raped as an underaged girl and was blamed for her own rape by the program staff.  She was a young rape victim not old enough to drive or to know anyone in any jails and she was put into Straight where she was dreadfully abused, as all the kids there were, and revictimized.  Whooter knows this story.  Yet he found it fit to comment on Anne's personal history with disgusting false accusations and sexualized aggression toward her.

What is wrong with sadistic cretins like this?

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
Quote from: "Whooter"
I stand behind my posts.

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
Now I'd like to hear your reasons for posting that Anne Bonney was having unprotected sex as an underaged girl. You know she was raped. Was this rape what you're calling "unprotected sex"? You do realize that your average rapist doesn't ask his victim if she wants to have "protected non-consensual sex," right? I'm curious to hear your reasons why you are taking personal potshots of a sexual nature at a rape victim. That's not cool. Did the admin warn you about this deplorable behavior?

Stand behind your posts like a man.  Why did you do this to a person who has told you several times in the past she was raped and the program staff blamed her for it?

What did the mods say to you about it?

Once more, when confronted with his own ugly words and deeds, Whooter scurries away like a plague rat.

He wants to avoid this, but he should not be allowed.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling Elite
« on: October 18, 2010, 04:31:01 PM »
What are you trying to say, Frod?  Don't be so cryptic.  Tell us what you REALLY think.

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