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200 posts in  48 hours.Lots of action for a total load of bullshit, don't you think?

Didn't break any rules. You asked me for proof after we just discussed the exact definition of what "proof" meant.  And accusing the opposing side in an argument of blackmailing you is not a joke.  An hour or so ago you edited the thread's first post to say:

People reading this thread can figure out for themselves whether you revealing my personal information against my expressed wishes was a good move or not. I , personally, think it hurts the credibility of the supposedly trustworthy adminship I heard so much about when you were trying to get me to agree to the IP check. To me it appears you got angry, knew I was lying because you already checked, and used my post out of context to make your point. This will make you popular amongst the extremist faithful here, this is good leadership skills, I understand that. But we both know what happened, Psy. Your convictions are not as strong as your desire to be proven right. But that's ok, it's typical of fornits, and to be expected. I expected this outcome, because I know how fornits really operates.

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"ha ha, this was a joke and you fell for it, ha ha".

It was a serious attempt to spread lies about others to cause harm.  Now you can attempt to edit that post again and make this sound like a joke but anybody who reads the thread, especially a condensed version pointing to certain key points in the thread, will know the truth about you.

Who did I spread lies about? A fictitious personality that doesn't exist? This thread has a valid point, real people have been blackmailed here, and this thread was authored in a tongue in cheek manor familiar to anybody who reads my posts. Go ahead and link to this thread after all my posts, or post it in your signature like Whooter's stalker does. Your questioning my credibility doesn't faze me. i will continue to post my opinions, and post threads I want to until you finally make up an excuse to ban me. I'm sure that isn't that far off in the future, right? What will it be, spam? It's been fun Psy, good detective work. But I am disappointed you didn't uphold the convictions of keeping my IP info private as I asked. Apparently free speech is not as important as winning an argument for you, shame.

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Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting.

Ok then.  Good choice.  I'm glad you came to your senses and decided to let me check.  Aha.  Seems everybody was right.  You are most definitely PosterX.  Proof attached.  It's a screenshot of the post info for your above post.  I've blurred out your IP (not a dialup ISP) and your (many) other usernames.

Well now we can both accept the fate of diminished credibility. You know I wasn't authorizing my IP information to be released, you misquoted me, out of context and now attempt to make it seem like I gave you permission. Psy, I was hoping for this precise outome. To anyone with half a brain, they realize this thread was a joke. I have made many joke threads, tongue in cheek, to point out hypocrisy on this website in a humor filled way. This thread was over the top, tongue in cheek fun. The forum was dead slow when I posted this, and look how it kicked it into gear. I enjoy agitating discussion with out of the box techniques to get people to share their opinions and views. Isn't this a discussion forum? Where in the rules does it say you cannot have more than one username?

Yes I lied about not being posterX. I continued with the lie well passed the point of it being funny, in the hope Psy would do something like this. He in fact, has now proven that if you agitate the cult leaders here enough, they will break their own principles, bend their own rules, to win an argument and prove themselves right. Congratulations, you figured out this tongue wide in cheek thread was a joke. You have earned yourself a cookie. But you also have committed an action against your own principles, another reason people should not trust this forum, and definitely not trust the supposed "trustworthy" admin. You can keep claiming you didn't quote me asking for proof out of context, but it's pretty clear what I meant. You said you had proof before you checked, and I specifically did not authorize you to reveal my IP information. You chose to do it anyway. Now people have a clearer understanding of how fornits leadership truly works. I never had credibility on this forum, people know i joke around, and post tongue in cheek. So nothing new learned there. But we did learn an invaluable lesson about Psy and his leadership style today. I think this exercise has been positive, overall. Thank you everyone for participating, it's been an interesting 36 hours.

People would still disagree with your opinions about programs but at least they would consider you a little more honest.

I think you are wrong about this. I think that people would realize that two posters having different IP addresses doesn't really prove anything, and continue to hurl the same theory indefinitely.

Well.  Right now it's not just the opinions of the "extremists" to worry about.  I assume you post here to speak to more than just them.  Right now, as it stands, there is very strong evidence that you are a liar and you attempted to frame the other side of the arguent to make them look bad.  That damages your credibility on all sides.

I speak to whoever wants to read what I write. I am not going to work hard to answer every little nitpicking question someone throws my way just because they question my credibility.

 

I haven't heard a peep out of Whooter or Danny Benisson recently.  Even they frown on what you've done.  

Oh no. Perhaps that's why they didn't pick up the phone for our regularly scheduled nightly phone chat? We were all planning on a weekend cruise this weekend to discuss fornits strategy and planning, I hope I didn't ruin things with them, I was really excited about that.

At least if you did ask me to prove you innocent, you could regain some honor in their eyes, or the eyes of the parents you likely speak to.  

You are a good manipulator, I'll give you that much credit. But me and posterX having different IP does not "prove me innocent", and you know that Psy. It only proves that I use dial up, know how to change my IP address, or any number of possibilities other than the truth that I am not them. You know this, but are using this credibility angle to try to get me to allow you to find out more information about me. It won't work, sorry.

Like iJust said, the only reason you wouldn't do this is because you are in fact PosterX and fabricated this whole blackmail story.

I've explained in detail why I refuse to pull my pants down on command in front of the enraged mob here. I can't believe you actually can say something like "prove your innocent" with a straight face, this is America, innocent until proven guilty. This sounds more like a commie court room, or is it a cult group think session?

As it stands know, you're refusal to defend yourself or back up your allegations is more than enough proof anybody needs to show you a liar.  You're right in the sense that you lose no matter what you do.  You are PosterX.  It's not a conspiracy theory.  You were caught.  You might as well give up now because any time you post in a thread, i'm going to make sure to post a link to this thread along with a detailed walkthrough as to exactly how you are a liar and what depths you were willing to sink to.  You cried wolf, and nobody will ever believe you again.  At this point I don't even believe you were in a program (at least not as a detainee/client/student/whatever).

Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting. That's right, it's just a guess, a theory of yours. I know you desperately need to convince your cult followers that you're right. But you picked a losing battle here, because all you have is more conspiracy theories and assumptions. If you think linking to a 200 post thread to people helps your position, go right ahead, see if it helps. My posts and opinions speak for themselves, I don't need to stalk other posters trying to discredit them. You can act just like the people obsessed with Whooter, who make elaborate conspiracy threads quoting him dishonestly and trying to discredit him. You think anybody other than the extremist regulars read that crap? Feel free to waste your time as Whooter's stalkers do, it doesn't bother me in the least. I'll continue to post here, and share my opinions and experiences. I went through a treatment program with its own forum here, and I earned my right to my opinions. I will not be bullied into revealing more personal information about myself, or into silence by anyone, even the leader of the cult with a special red name.

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I really, really don't care what people think about me here. I'll continue to post here even if everyone posts I have no credibility. If only you would release more personal information, they say, you might gain some of that valuable credibility back for yourself. I'm not an idiot, I don't fall for this sort of tactic. But good try everyone, for as much as you complain about LGAT tactics here, you sure are good at it. Irony is not in short supply on this forum. I don't fit in with a band of extremist cult group thinker's who believe in outlandish conspiracy theories and unrealistic idealistic goals based on mythology and generalizations. I think I'll live.

Asking Psy to check the IPs is not releasing personal information.  It's confirming or disproving a whale of a blackmale tale you've already released publicly.  You demand proof from survivors of abuse yet hold yourself to some special standard. This is not an LGAT or an attack therapy session.  You can leave at any time.  You are not being verbally abused.  You are simply being held to the same standard you demand of others after making serious accusations.  The only reason why you would not ask this of Psy is if you are lying and you are in fact PosterX.

You are free to believe in bullshit conspiracy theories if that's what you choose. I choose not to cede to the whims of an angry mob of extremists demanding I pull my digital pants down to let their cult leader take a look. I've had enough personal information of mine released, I will not willingly authorize anyone to pry any further. Enough. If you don't understand the principle of this, then I can offer no further explanation that will make it any clearer. What you are arguing is the same as saying the government should have every right to spy on citizens, after all, if you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about? The principle of freedom is important, and to stand up to group of angry demands being hurled by conspiracy theorists is important in my view. In time, I really believe you will eventually get over this thread. Or you can get angry and keep asking the same question again and again, just like the people claiming Obama was born in Kenya and he needs to release his birth certificate. There is no reasoning with conspiracy theorists, because the theory just morphs when burdened with reality. From this point on I am not going to address this bullshit, but you are, of course, free to post as much as you want about it. Knock yourself out.

You have no cred..

You faked this whole thing with your posterX persona to create some sort of drama for yourself. You refuse to identify which WWASP program you attended and your posts are awfully evasive, much like the whooters posts in style and in empty content.

Odd that.

I suggest you let psy prove it once and for all with an IP check.

Oh wait, you won't do that now will you, of course not.

I really, really don't care what people think about me here. I'll continue to post here even if everyone posts I have no credibility. If only you would release more personal information, they say, you might gain some of that valuable credibility back for yourself. I'm not an idiot, I don't fall for this sort of tactic. But good try everyone, for as much as you complain about LGAT tactics here, you sure are good at it. Irony is not in short supply on this forum. I don't fit in with a band of extremist cult group thinker's who believe in outlandish conspiracy theories and unrealistic idealistic goals based on mythology and generalizations. I think I'll live.

That's pretty funny! Did a computer program do that, or is that an original?

I usually ignore conspiracy theories but I'll humor you for a moment. I have dial up internet. That means my IP address changes every time I sign in here. So even if I was another poster, it would be from a different IP address. You are asking for proof of something you really dont' want the answer to. But, let me make clear,  I refuse to have this information made public, as a matter of principle. I will not cede my personal information to an angry mob of cult extremists demanding proof to negate their outlandish theories of the moment. A lot of people demand Obama birth certificate be released, you sound just like them. So go right ahead and believe in bullshit theories if you wish, that's your choice. Remaining ignorant and assumptions of facts seems to be the way of things on fornits. Why break with tradition?