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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 08, 2004, 01:48:00 AM
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To busy drinking fuckin or what ever ya can't handel.God gave you that beautiful child to borrow and you fucked uped!It's called let's love and understand what we love ,na ya just throw them away.I never forgot I forgave cause no hate will live in my heart but,I have never bothered with my mother or my father they didn't bother with me.I am 44 years old and I am happy I will never be there child for I was not for almost 3 years.they left me to die and to be aboused.So uterally shamed I still wake with it.I am a surviver though.and working through my awake nite mares.I might add they think it was the sickest most abousive torture they have ever heard of.and wonder how I am functionable,Ha Ha
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Did you ever consider that some kids throw themselves away? Break every rule and get arrested every week? They refuse help! yes, mabe if I were your parent I would thow you away too. You sound like a piece of trash becausue you trash others without just cause!
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That's a nice analogy for this site.We are all just a bunch of filthy disposables.Thanks for the reminder
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I wrote that about that ignorant idiot that wants to judge parents. My son is the most valuable thing in my life. To accuse ME and others like me for sending our children away, of being drunks, self absorbed, ect., is a moronic comment. you don't know me or my kid. The 'person' and I use that term lightly, IS disposable. Judging without any facts. What a genious. ::bangin:: ::stab::
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People on this site will freak on a parent quicker than shit.Lots of ruined families around here.Not a place for casual conversation
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Whoever wrote that you are so right.... I would think by now she's gotten the hint and moved on. When you think about it shes kinda cute I like the way she goes off. But this is not the place for her, did any tell her about Kens parents site. They might be a tad bit nicer then this group :lol:
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On 2004-07-08 06:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Did you ever consider that some kids throw themselves away?
Did you read the post? This is about a specific person and a very specific issue
Break every rule and get arrested every week?
Rules Suck !
They refuse help!
who said they needed id it
yes, mabe if I were your parent I would thow you away too.
I would have enough sympathy for you in reguards to your insanity not to destroy you physically if said to another in my near presence .... for what it is worth
You sound like a piece of trash becausue you trash others without just cause!"
and you trash this person... Would you like to play a hand with me?
Go0d-bye,
Paul St. John
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Where ya been Paul, nice to see you posting again :smokin:
SyN
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thats funy how u typed 500 words & lost it. paul st bernard
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500 words, can you count that high :lol:
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Paul is nothing but a penis wrinkle.......
And a Waste of Skin
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I would bet HIS PARENTS threw him away. That would explain his hostility and lack of compassion for all. Poor little penis wrinkle PAUL StJohn
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For those of you who haven't been there, some kids deserved to be there and some didn't. Some kids deserved to be sent to less severe places, some deserved to more severe places, some children didn't deserve to be sent anywhere, but their parents did it anyways. So do not take offense if you are a parent and sent your kid to Elan and are trying to help them, because many of the people who claim that they did not deserve to be sent there probably did. Elan is a lot different now, the biggest threat to your children's safety is now the poor education.
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The education is GREAT if you compare it to the alternative. At least they can be sure they don't skip it. After years of struggling with ADHD, defience, getting high every day and trouble with the police. My son was a dimwit. He is making honers now and has graduated HS.
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"My son was a dimwit"
Wow thats harsh but I guess we all have to consider the source. That source being a TROLL. No alum parent would talk like you. calling people a penis wrinkle?? cmon, troll stop hiding behind fake personalities; your no alum parent. cant wait to hear back from you.
SyN
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I think this is the real deal.
Just gives some insight into their view of their kid is all
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If it is the real deal then I dont feel it. Cmon, just got here and already battling with paul by post #5 calling. him a penis wrinkle??? Who's parent does that? would anyone elses? I would hope to god not.
SyN
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kids that end up at Elan . This gives ya some insight into that!!
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I am a realist. I see things the way they are. I do not live in denial. I called my son that because that is what he WAS! He is no longer. Please don't criticize my honesty. As for paul st john, he is foul mouthed, insulting, sad excuse for a human. He passes judgment on people without any idea or information about the circumstances. He is a mean bastard. Accusing ME of drinking, screwing,and throwing my child away. My son ran away because he didn't like any rules. He refused to attend school. There is so much more, but I don't need to share with everyone. He was throwing himself away. I had to find him. This is why I say, PAUL IS A MEAN SAD CREEP, and a penis wrinkle....By the way, I didn't just get here. I was prevoiusly posting with my initials.
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well if you are a parent talk like that will only get you one kind of attention round here. Though looking at your past anon posts, you seem to be genuine, but its easy to be fooled when you cant hear a voice. Either way whats your focus here?
SyN
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I found this site several months ago. I was hoping to get some insight as to what goes on there. I have been to the school so much, and because my son has chosen to stay there now that he is 18, I cannot believe the horrer stories are happening ANYMORE. Not to discount that they DID happen in earlier years. I truly believe that to be true during certain years, such as when Art was there. What bothers me is all the ethinic,female genitel, and the other disrespectful, crude & vile comments. Venting is great, but there is no need to use offensive language like I find so often. When my 10 year old is around, I have to hide the screen and tell him there are words from angry people that I would rather not have him see. I was also hoping mabe to find some of my son's friends from elan before he gets home next month. I am not here to hurt or offend anyone, although I will not allow myself to be trashed. Strangers really cannot hurt my feelings because they have no idea who I am. I am a pretty good person, This is who I want and try my best to be. No angry nutcase can bring me down. I think there are only a select few,like pAUL sTjOHN, the person who wrote the title topic about ME. I guess he would rather have seen me leave my homeless son to die on the streets. What a dope! When you are left with few choices, you do what you have to to save the ones you love. It is hard to find a school that will take a kid that insists, he'll run away. So, when I get negetive feedback, I either ignore or reply depending on my attitude at the time. Synister, thank you for believing in me. I am sincere. I can't wait to pick up my son next month :grin: [ This Message was edited by: Llahsram on 2004-07-15 20:05 ]
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Most people's parents don't talk like that, if you actually talk like that to your kid, maybe that's why he's in Elan. And he is probably not signing out for fear that you will disown him and he will be homeless and have no college money, which is exactly what everyone in the house with me who was over 18 was doing. That's Elan's official policy, to encourage parents to disown their children for leaving the cult, I mean program. Some kids do deserve to be there, probably yours did. Some do not, and it's the parents who are fucked up, like mine. The person who started this post may or may not have deserved to be there, I don't know. But I have lost almost three years of my life simply because my father was violent, manic depressive, possibly borderline personality/psychotic, and my mother who won't stand up to him - I don't think I can really explain how that feels. If I had deserved to be sent there, maybe I wouldn't be so angry. And I actually have mental and emotional problems (which I get a SSDI check for)that technically would not have allowed me to be sent to Elan even by their own rules. Elan did not do shit to help me with any sort of relationship with my family, it only gave us something new to argue about.
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I am sorry that you ended up at elan if you didn't belong there. My son needed them. He is alive,healthy,educated and loving. They have given me back my beautiful child that I thought was lost forever! I don't agree with many of the things they do there, but when you are desperate, you have to weigh the good against the bad. I do believe he would not be alive today if I had not sent him away from his surrondings.... I divorced my son's father, because he is an alcholic, when my son was two. I raised him alone and remarried a few years later. My husband and I also have another son who is 10.We have a home, jobs, pets,and a nice circle of friends. My son was a boy scout,played sports,skiied and had many friends. He did always struggle in school. ADHD, I have it too. I HATE IT ::heart::
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i feel the same way you do . i will never forgive my parents for sending me there, but i still love them they are my parents. I was not a voilent person or a drug abuser. honstly my dad made up lies.. because he never wanted a girl.. all three of my brothers were ahell of alot worse then me.. never once did they get into trouble.
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No one fucking needs elan you psycho bitch. Wait till your son comes home and bashes yer head in with a sledge hammer just like Jeff Ortiz. Funny thing is that shocked no one. We were all like, oh he killed his mom, yeah I'd kill mine too for putting mr here, yer fucked and yer son is currently brainwashed. Hehehehe have a fun fuure decade as you watch him slowly lose his mind
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On 2004-07-25 07:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"No one fucking needs elan you psycho bitch. Wait till your son comes home and bashes yer head in with a sledge hammer just like Jeff Ortiz. Funny thing is that shocked no one. We were all like, oh he killed his mom, yeah I'd kill mine too for putting mr here, yer fucked and yer son is currently brainwashed. Hehehehe have a fun fuure decade as you watch him slowly lose his mind
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No, I guess we're not all alike. I would never imagine bashing my mother or anyone else in the head with a sledge hammer. I also wouldn't wish that on anyone. I wouldn't kill anyone. I also didn't (and won't) slowly lose my mind over a decade.
Doing and saying things like that is for people with sick twisted minds. Hardly any of us are like that. Jeff Ortiz was. It sounds like you also are. But most of us here like all "normal human beings" aren't. You should go see a psychiatrist about that rage. You need help.
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Thanks for the support? Kind of. But to the nut case who wishes to have my son bash my head in with a sledge hammer, I do pitty you. You should see someone about your anger. It is very unhealthy. You did not belong at elan. You should have been in a physc ward. The simple fact that you would have rather seen my son DIE, or him kill me is sick. Why do you have a bag over your head anyway. Are you paranoid also? Medication can help you. I truly hope you can get the help you need. If you cannot afford it, most towns have a counciling center and they can point you in the right direction. By the way, My son turned 18 in February. He could walk out anytime he wants. He graduated in June. He stayed on for the summer because it is much easier for him to learn with such small classes. I wish you well.
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On 2004-07-25 13:35:00, Llahsram wrote:
"Thanks for the support? Kind of. But to the nut case who wishes to have my son bash my head in with a sledge hammer, I do pitty you. You should see someone about your anger. It is very unhealthy. You did not belong at elan. You should have been in a physc ward. The simple fact that you would have rather seen my son DIE, or him kill me is sick. Why do you have a bag over your head anyway. Are you paranoid also? Medication can help you. I truly hope you can get the help you need. If you cannot afford it, most towns have a counciling center and they can point you in the right direction. By the way, My son turned 18 in February. He could walk out anytime he wants. He graduated in June. He stayed on for the summer because it is much easier for him to learn with such small classes. I wish you well."
Believe me, my parents are fucked up, but I didn't kill them. Jeff Ortiz did not kill his mother because she sent him to Elan, but because he's crazy. Most people who got sent to Elan are angry at their parents, but how many other people killed them? None that I know of.
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Hi Art, Whats with the last comment? I was not trying to cause trouble or hurt someone. That was how I feel about someone who would call me names and write mean things about me when they don't even know me. Someone suggested that my son kill me. I think they should get some help. That was downight sick. Should I just ignore it? I'm not clear on your comment. I am not trying to antagonize anyone. Just defending myself. I think you know I am not evil or cruel. I just wonder why anonomous posters hide. Also, I know how much you hate elan, but I wish you could be more optimistic about my son. It is all I have left. I'll be picking him up in two weeks. Can't you be happy for us? What is my clear lack of skill?
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I personally would like to see Llahsram son put Llahsram head in a hydralic press after she picks him up in a couple of weeks.
You support the fact that your son is being brain washed and think Elan is the answer, well it isnt, you are an asshole and a fuckin cunt for allowing your son to be housed and exposed in an unsafe enviroment.
You have alot of issues and you will eventially burn in hell because of them.
Now go and do the right thing and free your son from the Evil that is Elan.