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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 04, 2004, 12:30:00 AM
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Can someone please let me know what the heck this is. I know whatever it is, it is no longer at elan but I need to satisfy my curiosity. :question: Thanks, CCT
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Electric sauce was used by Ken Zaretzky when he masterbated in the bathroom. Ken especially used alot of it on laundry day when he would rifle through the female laundry bags seeking out under garments to sniff.
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shut up. ken is a good guy, WHO DOESNT WORK FOR ELAN. leave him alone
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I was looking for an honest answer about the electric sauce, not some 14 year old puibesent stupid comment. ::bangin:: ...Does anyone know what this was? CCT
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Hi I think I can help. I was there for the sauce era even was in on making a few batchs myself. It consisted of any grabage we could find out of the kitchen made in a mixer sometimes cigs butts were added but basicly anything... the shit smelled bad! It was used in GM'S sometimes the residents were wearing it, other times standing in pots of it. VERY VERY NASTY to say the least. That shit would dry up on the kids if they had a long enough GM one time they used to tar (it being the tar) and feathered two kids now how sick is that Think I would have braffed myself but never seem anyone do that think they might have been to scared....
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Rumors were, the electric sauce often consisted of shit, piss and puke, spit, etc.
Bullshit.
The worst you got was milk, eggs, some garbage, food items mostly, blended all together.
I dont remember what the message was...I think it was an attempt to show people what they would be forced to eat, and live in if they didnt conform to Elans life lessons and ended up on the streets.
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I will trust that the sauce was a kitchen concotion(sp). I have read about it several times and never have heard my son who is there now talk about it. He is over 18 and chooses to stay, so I know nothing like this takes place NOW. It sounds like something I would have had fun making at that age, but I would have lost my lunch if having ever received this. THANKS.... :nworthy: CCT
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I know for a fact they stop using it shortly after or even while I was there, when I went over to E-6 I cant recall it ever being used. Iam not sure what their reason for it was. But there were some kids at that time who lived in it like J.S.anyone form 3 at that time will know just what Iam talking about... things were sick and out of hand and they knew it!
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Hey Art dont go so hard on the parent, they just wanted to know thats all....
Hey want a Coca Cola? :grin:
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Ok ya know your welcome to that coke anytime....
lol :lol: Hope you had a great 4TH!
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Yes Artman, My son is a student there NOW and has been for 18 months. I had no choice but to send him there. He would have been dead otherwise, and he will be the first to tell you that. He was a low lying dirt ball. Stealing, picking pockets, selling pot and growing it, in trouble with the police, not attending school and living homeless at a truck stop. His hygine was nasty too. I could go on and on. I am 42, I did drugs too. Pot,coke, speed (ironically, I take Adderall now for my ADD). I didn't do drugs everyday like my son, and I went to school. There is a big difference, and a Mom will do anything to save the one she loves. He is 18 and he can leave anytime he wants. He knows he is in a better place. He is finally learning academically, and how to stay off drugs. How old are you & how old are your kids? Why did you go to elan anyway? He is NOT being abused and never has! Don't even try to make me feel like shit for saving my son because you will be wasting your time and mine too. I've been through enough. CCT
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Here is the deal as I see it. If Elan has worked for your son, there is nothing greater than that. pERIOD. yes, there is a lot of controversy surrounding Elan, and if you put a group of troubled teens together there is bound to be problems. The place has come a long way in the past decade, I began to see changes as I was leaving. Over the years there have been incidents of abusive staff, and methods that should not have been used. I have always felt that the concept of Elan is a good one, the problem was the manner in which it was carried out. Another thought I have is that it is difficult to find staff that is trained and aoppropriate in the middle of nowhere, especially for themoney. I do not forgive or justify the injustices that have befallen many through the years, and I know for a fact there are staff that care and do good work. If it has helped your son, I am glad and everyone on this sight should support that and be happy that the same horrors they experienced did not happen to him. That being said, I still do not feel that the institution should get a free pass for what has occured, and I wish those who have done damage could be held accountable. Understand please that many Elan survivors went through all sorts of differnet abuse, and the memories still burn. What scares me the most is a Elan saying, "those who forget the past are doomed to relive it". If that is true I pity the kids who end up there when it happens.
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Maren shut up.. you were a major bitch in elan and provoked the shit out of a bunch of girls, your lucky you didnt get your ass kicked. You arent fucked up because of Elan, you were fucked up long before Elan.
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i don't eat eggs[ This Message was edited by: MarenMaren on 2004-07-12 12:14 ]
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fungus[ This Message was edited by: MarenMaren on 2004-07-12 12:16 ]
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Artman, So are you suggesting I should have left my son alone? Homeless?, On drugs and stealing? What's up with that nonsence? I am grateful that I never read all this negitive crap prior to sending him there. Was there somewhere else you can sugget that would have been better? You aren't left with a lot of choices when your kid tells you he is going to run away if you send him to any school. He could be rotting in a grave now instead. Would that have been a wiser choice? What kind of a parent are you if you think the latter is a better choice. That scares me in a big way. I understand they abused kids years ago, I am not discounting that! Even if they abused him, It can't be as bad as the alternative. He was pretty messed up and thought his life was normal. I've had him seeing shrinks since he was 7 years old. Yale child study ( they analized me instead), Meds, Nathropath DR. I would have tried a Witch DR if I thought it would have helped. Desperate times call for desperate acts. I wanted to kill him myself more times that I would like to recall. He was an asshole and did anything to piss me off (ODD). Try living with that in your house. He caused the entire family to argue every day because of the stress he caused.....Pretty sad to say about you first born child who you expected to go through school like every other kid. At that point, even if I thought they might abuse him, As sick as it sounds, I would have sent him anyway. He needed a major kick in the ass!!!!! He is a nice kid now. I've been alone with him, he doesn't like being there at all, but who would like all their freedom removed? I know he would like to date girls and have a normal life. He WILL get that chance, Thanks to elan. Remember what I said. He is 18 and could leave if he wanted. I am sorry for all of you who had horrific days and episodes there. It isn't my business, It is yours, and I am deeply sorry for you all. I hope you can all heal. Would your death have been a better choice? I am NOT SUGGESTING THIS but that is still an option for us all. I happen to love life. I have a great husband, 2 sons, my parents, siblings, a step family who are great, and some very close friends. Something everyone needs is a close friend who doesn't judge you. Please don't feel the need to tell me your horror stories, I have been reading this web site for a few months now. I think many of them are true and some are sensationalized. e'lan is a different place now. My son is learning and getting good grades. He is no longer an uneducated dope! Not the sharpest crayon in the box either, but I'll take this anyday over what I had. Don't cut my legs out from under me!! I MEAN THIS! I don't want to hear any crap from anyone, PLEASE! If you are still feeling wounded, It is time to move on and discuss this with someone who can help you We cannot change our history, what we can do is learn who we don't want to be and rise above. Write letters to those staff members and let them know just how shitty they were and ask for an appoligy. Yes some are dead and just know, they can never hurt another child again. Isn't it time to move on and focus on the future and the happy positive things in your lives?...HEY ARTMAN, Why did your parents send you there? They must have been pretty desperate. I dont have a lot of money, and I would offer a limb as barter if I could have my kid be a "normal person". :tup: I am afraid of when he comes home he will have no friends. He cannot go back to the old, and all the older "good kids" will be in college. Any suggestions? What did you do when you got out of there for friends? HEY, you didn't answer my question, WHY were YOU there, and how old are you? CCT
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Hey CCT that goes for me too if ya ever want to talk Art can give you my email addeess.... The coca cola lady.... :grin:
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clearly an elan troll....and most probably sharon herself, as art said...if you read it outloud..she sounds just like sharon terry ricci ...even the bad grammar & spelling. id love to know if she ever follows-up with you in person, art. somehow..i highly doubt youll hear from her. -
an innocent bystander
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I think artman is the only one here that really experienced elan at its worst. There was another member here who stated during her stay at elan Marty dipped tampons in ketchup and taped them to her head.
during my time there was abusive language and rings, also there were shady staff members that were on drugs and one had sexual relations with an 17 year old resident, got her prego as well. She was only a few weeks from turning 18.
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Do tell what was your time and who was it that ended up pregnent? And by who?
I think most of us old timers recall some pretty fucked up shit. Not only Art.
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Do you really want to know? Dont let him come home going back to where you can from is the worst thing you can do take my word for it. If theres school or other place for him to go to get on it. Not all who went home fell but most do its just too hard.
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1have top agree with that I was there at the ned of the seventies. Very screwed up!
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MID 70'S Thats when this happen what house? I might know you afterall.
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If arts right and this is sharon fuck you and all your money hungry friends, its peoples lives you are talking about DONT OFFER TO FIX THEM IF YA CANT KEEP THE PROMISE! :wave: SEE YA
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Dear innocent bystander, Your so smart. You guessed it. I am the real Sharon Terry. Is this what you live for, insulting people? Try getting a life. I am trying to talk to artman and you feel the need to post you bullshit. You criticize my spelling and grammer. Have you looked at yours dimwit. I didn't realize this was english 100 and you were grading my paper. Don't ever write to me or about me again or you can BITE ME.....genius. ::argue:: CCT
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Don't ever write to me or about me again or you can BITE ME.....genius. CCT
Now thats fummy (or you can bite me?) Where the hell did ya learn your ghetto... Your in need of some serious help there. :wstupid:
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Oh gross, Sharon Terry, man do you have any idea how rotten and crusty her pussy must look like? Hey sharon has the menapause and yeast infection doing? Do you let Marty Kruglik chow down on your box still after he is done back dooring you?
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Artman, they don't bother me. You can tell what a moran is by the things they say. People that use words like that are of the lowest form of life. Taking up space and polluting society. I hope they don't have children because they will grow up damaged. Trailer trash, bigots raising the next generation of filth. I pitty them for their anger. People who I don't like, don't have the ability to hurt me, unless they come over and beat me up. But they can't. They don't know where I live... Oh Yeah, I'm Sharon Terry so I must live in Maine... Yeah, thats right, Maine. Thanks Art. Later, CCT
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is a groundskeeper.
Check him out here:
http://www.hcs.nu/parents/facstaff.htm (http://www.hcs.nu/parents/facstaff.htm)
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Looks like are good mom thinks shes better then everyone here huh? If you were such a good parent your kid wouldnt be where he is.... Wanna go head to head on being a parent let me tell you something as an Elan Grad! Most of us are GREAT parents ya know why? We take care of our own no need to ship them off we know what and what not to accept... Some of us I being one are not well educated but my KIDS kick ass.They both are grown and doing VERY VERY WELL! SO STICK THAT UP YOUR STUCK UP ASS ::deal::
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On 2004-07-07 15:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Looks like are good mom thinks shes better then everyone here huh? If you were such a good parent your kid wouldnt be where he is.... Wanna go head to head on being a parent let me tell you something as an Elan Grad! Most of us are GREAT parents ya know why? We take care of our own no need to ship them off we know what and what not to accept... Some of us I being one are not well educated but my KIDS kick ass.They both are grown and doing VERY VERY WELL! SO STICK THAT UP YOUR STUCK UP ASS ::deal:: "
What a nuttless piece of shit. I wish I knew who you were, I'd crack your fuckin skull open.
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YEAH FUCK OFF ASS WIPE! YOUR THE ONLY SHIT I SEE AROUND HERE!
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This is where the anonymous shit comes in handy you sackless freaks
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Whats with the advice Art? Havnt you adapted to ignoring the anons? I get a chuckle out of the sick crap they post, when and if I read it. Its amusing, its worthless, its sick, its absolutely and completely irrelevant and that is what is so entertaining about it. These people actually think someoone else is reading the swill and taking it seriously. To hell with the anons I say. I fart in your general direction!
Ignore 'em Artski.
Doug
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Art, thank you for sticking by me. Some of these people are vile and disturbed. It is quite sad. I will not answer their insulting bullshit or tell them the reason my son is there. If they want to judge me, they can and I could care less. These dirt maggots need to find some joy in life other than attempting to hurt me with words. They are close to amusing, but not close enough. I almost feel sorry for them but I'm too busy. I would rather be kind to nice people. By the way, I AM better than them! I would NEVER try to hurt another person. What a bunch of filthy, toxic whiners. :skull: Later, CCT Sharon Terry that is! I'm so rich. Ha Ha Ha........!
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Hey Art I hear ya it's so fucked uped when you look back on electric sause,even the name was a killer hellow! sick smelly shit. was so sick No one woulld ever send my son there I would kill!!!I can't understand how parent's can trust.I lived that hell hole and if I didn't I still would never send my child away.Parent's do your dame job.How easy is that. ya just wan't to throw them away.to busy drinking fuckin or what ever your bag is.I feel for you ,NOT! Do your dame job it's not hard it's called love and you parent's have none.your selfish MF.
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Ken still to this day masterbates with electic sauce. He uses the sauce when he watches blue's clues.
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get a job and a life you faggot
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That was really funny.Blues clues,my eyes are watering
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What is "blues clues"??
Who is Ken?
Who gives a fuck?
You're ALL losers, everyfuckingoneofyou
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Obviously, we Already know he is a filthy mouthed pig, one who hides behind a BAG HEAD to use degrading terms about women. If he has one (which I doubt), she should KICK HIS PUTRID ASS, just before she dumps him like yesterdays maggot infested picnic leftovers. What is this BOOK WHORE STUFF :question: HE IS VILE :exclaim: :exclaim: Sharon :lol:
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Blue's Clue's is on PBS. It is a cartoon about a dog named Blue, it also has a real guy in it. For toddlers & preschool kids. My niece loves it :smile: ... As for Ken; He is a e'lan graduate who owns and operates a website for e'lan alumni and/or their families. It is neither pro or con, the nice part is no one is allowed to trash another PERSON. You can have an opinion and not get all the filthy rude anonymous comments. It doesn't mean you won't get pounded on, but it would be gentle. It is for people that don't have anger issues and complete negetive lives.... As for WHO CARES? You must or you wouldn't have asked.
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LOL. oops[ This Message was edited by: MarenMaren on 2004-07-12 21:46 ]
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