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The Seed Discussion Forum / seed - deaths - deadly marriage
« on: August 16, 2002, 06:01:00 PM »
there is and you are doing it. Participate in this forum and help us figure some things out. I seems that you may be positioned to tell us some things we need to know. First things first (Yech) I am posting a question for you at the top of the list. Please answer to the best of your recollection.

The Seed Discussion Forum / Singing in the Orange Bowl
« on: August 15, 2002, 10:55:00 PM »
ACCKKK!!. I wasn't there, but remember all the hoopla surrounding it and watching it on tv.everyone ran out onto the field in their seed tee shirts and sang two songs including the seed f'n indeed. I think a segment of the crowd booed real hard.
Thanks, Debbi. I had selective memory loss and you brought back that nightmare!!!!!
(just kidding-all memories are good to have)

Did the Seed love Lakewood High?
Find out now!
thanks to Scott for sending me this.
In 1973-74,When I was in the Seed in the ninth Grade, the school newspaper interviewed students and seedlings for an article about the seed. I know some of the kids that responded by initials. and vividly remember this coming out. I didn't think I would ever see it again. Thanks again, Scott!
lakewood was a big school.The newspaper claimed "the seed is probably the greatest single issue to ever embroil Lakewood Students in conflict. Obviously this is because it effects almost every single student here".
Those of you who weren't there can't even imagine how much the Seed cult had invaded Lakewood. The Seed loves you license plate was even in our annual.
Anyway, here is a must see school newspaper that documents our torture, for your pleasure! Click on the image and a arrow should appear, click on that for full screen.

Enjoy, and please post your comments!!!!!!

Man, I would love to have been there.
And, no, I wasn't at kids, I was at the mother of all these nuthouses, the seed.

This actually happened? you witnessed it? Tell more.

The Seed Discussion Forum / One of the beatings
« on: July 22, 2002, 10:56:00 PM »
Right, right, right.

The Seed Discussion Forum / to Frieda
« on: July 22, 2002, 10:52:00 PM »
I was from a middle class family, so to speak. I was 14 and prepubescent. I got sent home with a sixteen year old kid with big muscles. We ended up somewhere in the white getto, real small house, dirty as hell, roaches, no ac. We would get there about midnight, he would immediately lock me in the bedroom with a padlock from the outside. They had a doberman that barked constantly and lived right outside the window on a lease, and I was told and believed he would kill me if I went out the window. Truth be told, I was too scared to run, didn't know where I was and running the the street at night in that neighborhood was not an option.
After my oldcomer sat with his mom and dad for a while,ate, showered, whatever, he would come in, unlock the door, escort me to the bathroom and I would shower and go to bed.His mom or dad, whom never said two words to me, would then padlock us in for the night. Then it was MI time and asleep about 1:30 or 2:00. back up at 7:00 and the same routine. He would knock on the door and his mom would get him, I would stay locked in for a while, then a truck would come bye and he would unlock the door, escort me to the truck and off to the seed.
I was never so glad to be out of a place in my life and was scared shitless every night.I was scared, tired, hungry, and far far from home.

The Seed Discussion Forum / The humiliating seed!
« on: July 21, 2002, 10:59:00 PM »
Thanks, Frank. Welcome. Your post kind of pisses me off and reminds me of the inhumanity of the whole thing. In the real world, doing that to a 14 year old could get you thrown in jail for several charges. But in the protected world of Juvenile synanon's, anything goes. IyMakes my stomach turn.
There was a recent post on the straight alumni site that claimed a guy stood up in group and admitted having sex with his oldcomer's 11 year old daughter in front of one of the principals. Nothing was ever done.
My question; sex with an 11 year old is typically called rape. Why wasn't this reported. Why wasn't the person arrested?
The whole thing is sickening..

The Seed Discussion Forum / Libby
« on: June 13, 2002, 10:04:00 PM »
So Escaper went to high School with Libby. Libby came to St Pete and was senior Staff. Somewhere in there Art Barker married Shelly, whom we all suspect was in the program in Ft Lauderdale, just a young twit, and then adopted Libby. Libby apparently disowned her parents and became Libby Barker. Sometime later, she married another Seedling that has early as last year, not contacted his family in 20 some years.
I saw a picture of her taken in December with Art and Shelly. Art looks about 100, Shelly looks about 25, and Libby looks about 45. They all have their arms around each other in seedling fashion. Makes you wanna yell something about something sucking.

The Seed Discussion Forum / My Parents
« on: June 11, 2002, 12:52:00 PM »
Anonymous got cold feet, but Thom, you are wanted back on another thread.

The Seed Discussion Forum / My Parents
« on: June 01, 2002, 04:30:00 PM »
Richard Nixon?

The Seed Discussion Forum / Raps/The Game
« on: May 28, 2002, 08:00:00 AM »
Tell me more about CEDU, where is/was it located/ its purpose, etc.  This is very interesting.  Also, What is your involvement or interest.  Thank you and welcome to the message board.

The Seed Discussion Forum / Thanks to all
« on: May 23, 2002, 11:05:00 AM »
We finally hit the big time media.  Due to the tireless efforts of Ginger Warbis for exposing the program for what is really is, a rabid viscious destructive cult, due to Wes Fager for his unending documented research into specific abuses, corporate papershuffling, and research into the origins of the program, to the webhosts of various forums that have finally given a voice and validation to the survivors,and to all survivors of abuse that have come to terms with their childhood demons and spoke out, the truth is coming to light.  Thanks to all of you.

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