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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight was a cake walk in comparison.....
« on: January 21, 2002, 01:25:00 AM »
What?  Boot camps are worse than doing time?  Can't get back to jail?  You are either the dumbest person on the planet or are just flat out lying to further your misguided viewpoint.  Where does your perfect rehab exist?  Any rehab for minors is too restrictive and bound to be cruel and abusive.  If you want to see an adult rehab you will see that 99% of them are there for pure profit and they make no bones about their motives.  They could give a damn if anyone got clean or not, they've got their money and that is all they care about.  Rehabilitation is a nice word for politicians to toss around for the vapid masses to suck up on their sound bites.  The vast majority of people in rehabs are trying to avoid incarceration, same for boot camps.  I guess you are naive enough to focus on the few whining malcontents who tell their sob stories to the media talking heads.  The "statistics" tossed about for drugs/alcohol and related treatment are simply lies.  If you know anything about statistics delve into sample size, r-squared, cross correlation, etc.  Here is the fact of life, if you want to play you have got to pay.  You don't think anyone should take responsibility for their actions at all.  And christ, if you could not get through Straight in about 12 months without too much confrontation then you were just seeking attention or plain stupid.  Yes, I know all kinds of bullshit went on there, I worked there for a year on staff.  I disliked hated alot of my fellow staff/counselors, a demented high schoolish clique of power tripping, self-absorbed assholes.  Why don't your found your own subtance abuse/behavioral modification/criminal rehabilitation chain of facilities that solves all of the US's problems and show us how it's done.  I have no pity for someone who carjacks a woman and bashes her head in then gets sent to a harsh boot camp where he catches some major shit.  Now he'll whine and say he's being abused.  You want to be a thug and act tough, then you're gonna pay.  If you don't have a drug problem then you won't keep getting busted for drugs (by police or your parents if you are a minor) and won't get placed in a situation like Straight, et al.  That's about the long and short of it.  Lights out.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight was a cake walk in comparison.....
« on: January 20, 2002, 10:48:00 PM »
"You guarantee"!!!.  On what basis are you so sure?.  And if you would end your practice of cranial rectal insertion, you would realize people go to boot camps to AVOID the jails I am referring to.  Yes, they would willingly put up with the "horrors" of boot camp to avoid jail.  They obviously have friends who have done the boot camp routine, and friends who have done jail time.  Then they make a CHOICE to go to the boot camps.  The judge offers you the boot camp as an option to jail.  Come on Einstein, even you should realize they definitely don't want jail time, hence they take the lesser of two evils.  Your logic is tre' faulty, watch some old Star Trek reruns and pay attention to Mr. Spock and your logic skills may improve.  We will test you again next semester.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight was a cake walk in comparison.....
« on: January 20, 2002, 10:44:00 PM »
You need to jsut be quiet, have you ever been in jail while someone on your cell block is murdered?  You sanctimonious ass.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight was a cake walk in comparison.....
« on: January 20, 2002, 05:33:00 PM »
I was in jail several times for a few months each time before I was a client at Straight.  Before y'all whine about getting yelled at in a rehab, I suggest spending a few months is a county jail that is over 100 years old and has abusive CO's and lovely fellow "clients".

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight was a cake walk in comparison.....
« on: January 18, 2002, 10:12:00 PM »
It's about time somebody started looking into this area.  You're a good person for it too,  Kathy. Programs like Straight and abusive wilderness programs offer two types of abuse,  and while some wilderness programs have been tied to physical abuses that make Straight seem like a cakewalk in comparison,  the psychological tortures of thestraights is right up there with them all--in my opinion.  Wes

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / BOSTON/STOUGHTON
« on: January 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
Hello fellow ex-straightlings,

I was held captive on Evans road from July '86 to October '87, and I remember you Paul. I don't really care about being anonymous (I just couldn't be bothered to login, etc.), so I'll reveal my full name: Greg Partch.  I was the deeply dislikable pseudo intellectual kid with brown hair who was always on setback for one absurd reason or another (11 in all--who here can beat that record?).  I remember you as a quiet kid with a bowl cut and poor circulation in his hands.  I don't think you were ever one of my newcomers (were you?), but I remember you nonetheless.

I still keep in touch with Ed Grossman (whom many of you later straightlings probably remember as senior Staff member Ed Grossman).  He works for an internet company now, and regrets the total waste of time Straight turned out to be.  We don't talk about Evans Road very much but the other night we had diner together and took a trip down memory lane and all the horror of that place--the doorless bathroom stalls, the cinder-block walls, the belt-loop hold (thumb through the actual belt loop, and then insert whole hand into waistband)--all that hideous nonsense came back to life. We were wracking our brains trying to recall the term "dishonesties."  Dishonesties, if you remember, were the little pangs of conscience that shot through you every time  you sat down in group for "review".  God what a hellhole that place was!

Anyway, my biggest dishonesty was that I never really believed in the program.  I tried and tried to use the group as my higher power, but some weird, persistent  crumb of dignity (the only one I had left) never allowed me to buy into it.  I used to have the worst nightmares about that place, and I eventually had to go to therapy, partially as a result of having endured all that bullshit.

Anyway, in case anyone is wondering, I now live in Brooklyn, with my wife and cat, and am a struggling and starving artist. And I say, go Knicks, despite the fact that the Celtics just creamed them for the third time this season.

Love ya, Group

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Another Teen Help Article
« on: January 16, 2002, 02:46:00 PM »
Hi Matt c. Hoffman I'm tommyfromhyde.
I was at Hyde starting in fall '76 so I
think your friend  probably left before i
got there. Do you remember if he said how or
why he left?
 There were many holes at Hyde. They were
exactly 6 feet deep and were constantly dug
and filled back in again by people with
"bad attitudes":roll:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / i feel _____ about ______ because...
« on: January 11, 2002, 10:00:00 PM »
You f'ed up step one, dammit.  You are POWERLESS over Dan Duquette, admit it.  Now you can forget about steps two through eleven, because D.D. will keep the ButtSox in ruin.  Even excommunicating Carl Everett will not cure your ills.  The "B" on the hat is for Beelzebub by the way.  Mike.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Come Back Daytopper !
« on: January 09, 2002, 05:04:00 AM »
Continue to post Anonymously so you won't
get punished ofr 'manipulation' or some damn
thing.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Come Back Daytopper !
« on: January 09, 2002, 04:58:00 AM »
Take a couple of days and tell us all you can
 Peace,
   Tommy

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Daytop Village Adolescent Residential
« on: January 07, 2002, 02:21:00 AM »
hi i'm tommyfromhyde and i'm anonymous.
Antigen, give the kid the link to the Elan page.
I think Elan was founded by a Daytopper.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Daytop Village Adolescent Residential
« on: January 06, 2002, 01:56:00 PM »
Does anyone know of a forum like this for former Daytop residents? I have been searching the web for information about abusive treatment at Daytop and I can't find anything. This amazes me. During the late 80's-early 90's, I was in and out of this TC. I experienced and witnessed horrendous abuse at the hands of staff members. I don't know why Daytop isn't exposed and other former residents aren't speaking out. Any help in finding info will be greatly appreciated.

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Web forum hosting / G.A.S. Factor Bug Reports
« on: January 05, 2002, 10:40:00 PM »
Found any bugs in the Poll Software?

Post about them here, please.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Another Teen Help Article
« on: January 05, 2002, 03:52:00 PM »
Grab the bag, Face. Heeere's Lonnie!
http://www.strugglingteens.com/parents/findersfees.html
A kind of finders' fee Lonnie didn't mention
though is the kind where program parents are
offered forgivness of fees of some kind for
bringing in new clients. Every kid in town
must look like a junkie to such a parent.
I don't think Hyde pulled that when I was
there but it's been 25 years.
Didn't you say STRAIGHT(r) did that Antigen?
peace
Tommy

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Another Teen Help Article
« on: January 05, 2002, 03:02:00 PM »
hey Face,
   
    Was Hyde ever a possibility for Alex too?
If so you may have a Hyde parent running
around your community selling Hyde to all
his friends Amway style.

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