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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: RMAzing until I wasn't on November 10, 2005, 03:38:00 AM
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The best friend I have ever had in my life was my father. Running a close second was Craig Spitzer. I went through some of the toughest times in my life, at RMA and outside RMA, with him. There was no one else that I had that understood me like him, because of the times and experiences we shared in our lives. I loved him like the brother that I never had.
I regret to inform this forum that he passed away in October of 2004. I just found this forum a few months ago and didn?t know what to say, so this posting is a bit after the fact, but I thought that others that had cared about him needed to know.
I know that RMA was hard for all of us but we all now share a bond that can never be broken.
He was married for 6 years and I was in the wedding. Now I am getting married in October of 2006 and had he been alive he would have been my best man. I will now have my father as my best man. I would never have had him as a friend if not for RMA so for that I am thankful of that place.
We made it through some of the toughest times of our lives together. There are no words to explain how I felt and still feel about Craig that I can ever explain. I will love and miss him always. It?s been over a year and I still can?t let him go. I think about him almost everyday. I wish I could just stop missing him but it just won?t happen. I miss him so much.
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then you should've fucked him when you had the chance!
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Or...you could dig up his bones and fuck him in the eye socket. I hear that the smell of decayed flesh and bones is quite the aphrodisiac.
Sorry, but you'll get no sympathy when you post pussy shit like you did man.
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On 2005-11-10 00:38:00, RMAzing until I wasn't wrote:
We made it through some of the toughest times of our lives together. There are no words to explain how I felt and still feel about Craig that I can ever explain. I will love and miss him always. It?s been over a year and I still can?t let him go. I think about him almost everyday. I wish I could just stop missing him but it just won?t happen. I miss him so much.
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jesus christ you love the fucking cock dont you. god damn that is the weakest, gayest, most fucking pathetic thing I've read on this site.
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Grow up.
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Amen to that, bro. You said it all
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One thing that RMA should have taught you, is that through death, also comes life. You keep him alive to the world, and in your heart, by teaching others the values, and love that he showed you. We all have dealt with death in our lives, and the fact that people have to post anonymously to talk about the dead that way, show where their values lay.... don't let it get you down brother.... He would want you to move foward, and celebrate his life for what it stood for. Your post truelly represented the closeness that you too had as friends, and as brothers.. and the value that it brought to you. Much respect for sharing your thoughts, as well as your feelings for everyone, which truelly represents the charactor that you have. Thank you, and I wish you the best.
Joe Keuter pg/56
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well joe cooter rma obviously taught you how to love the cock too
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my guess is that you are brandon yedor... ha ha ha
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brandon yedor? my guess is that you're a fucking queer.
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Is that suppose to be an insult??? Come on, I know you can do better then that.... Don't tell me that is all you have.... that that is your best stuff... Dont tell me that all you can try to do is make fun of is someone's sexuality... especially when they are secure with whom they are, and it doesn't bother them. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
Joe Keuter pg-56
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If you're so secure with your own sexuality, then why do you keep on responding to what that douchbag says? It's obvious that being called a faggot bothers you Joe, otherwise, you wouldn't feel the need to post about how you're not.
As for the long gay post regaring Craig Spitzer, it also sounds to me like maybe RMAZING really should've fucked the guy when he still had the chance!
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I'm so happy that I'm not the only one here who thinks Joe Cooter is a fucking queer. All of you pieces of shit out there, well, you're pieces of shit. And Fuck YOU!
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whatever you say joe kooter you ass pirate
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actually, i never said or spoke about my sexuality... nor is it important to... the question you should ask yourself is why your bigotry and hatred for the world is so strong... you should ask yourself, why you don't have the nerve to post who you are.... Go smoke some weed, get drunk, do some ectasy, do something to cure that chemical imbalance that you obviously have in your head.
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well joe cooter i just smoked a fat blunt and I still think you're a fag
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It sounds like these kids are doing self projections on other people here. You call other people names because of your own self fears of how you really are! The only person that I can see that deserve respect in this post, or have any honor for that fact would be this Nashari kid and this RMAzing kid. It would seem to me that the people that believe in making fun of other people for their own weaknesses or their own doubts are truelly the weak people of the world, and should all be executed, for they are the people that are ruining our society as a whole. They should be put out of their misery, since they obviously hate themselves so much. Good luck with your miserable little lives that obviously aren't worth living, and I truelly hope that you take initiative for once, and end your pathetic little lives.
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haha you're a god damn flamer too. sounds like a whole trio of old rma shower buddies has reunited.
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It's just so much fun to make fun of people. I don't see the point in being serious on the internet.
As far as smoking weed, getting drunk, and doing some ectasy, well those sound like fine ideas. I think I'll go do that thank you very much. CEDU really helped me a bunch. I came in a big tool, and left more interested in trying drugs than I'd ever been. It was like the prison in Blow where George teaches everyone how to smuggle drugs across the border. Yup, I loves my drugs, loves my drugs.
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to those that cared about Craig I would like to hear from you. E-mail me to what is listed in my profile. To those that just want to make fun, piss off. Craig was my best friend and that is just the way it was. You just wish you had a friend that meant something to you.[ This Message was edited by: RMAzing until I wasn't on 2005-11-23 22:54 ]
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Craig and I were in the same peer group and I knew him well. I am sorry to hear that he has died and I am deeply sorry to hear of your loss.
Feel free to contact me privately.
Best, M
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M, I remember you. Thanks for your kind words.
We spent NewYears Eve together with our girlfriends and then his wife since 1992 and on this day I always think about him. I wish he was here.
Listening to the song "Brothers in Arms" by Dier straits always reminds me of what all of us that went to CEDU schools have. We were never in real war together but RMA was a place that friends had to stick together.[ This Message was edited by: RMAzing until I wasn't on 2006-01-01 02:29 ][ This Message was edited by: RMAzing until I wasn't on 2006-01-01 02:32 ][ This Message was edited by: RMAzing until I wasn't on 2006-01-05 20:09 ]
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RMA - you identified this person by first name - but this person only signed with a letter. Would you please consider editing your post and removing the name? I'm sure it would be appreciated.
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im really sorry you were born
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"It's just so much fun to make fun of people. I don't see the point in being serious on the internet.
As far as smoking weed, getting drunk, and doing some ectasy, well those sound like fine ideas. I think I'll go do that thank you very much. CEDU really helped me a bunch. I came in a big tool, and left more interested in trying drugs than I'd ever been. It was like the prison in Blow where George teaches everyone how to smuggle drugs across the border. Yup, I loves my drugs, loves my drugs"
im really sorry you were born
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Sob. What a bunch of fucking pussies. CEDU was not a good place, but it wasn't a Turkish prison either. CEDU made you try drugs? Ruined your life? Made you incapable of functioning competently? It's called natural selection son. Swim or die mother fuckers.
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Wow! Seek help... Seriously!
And as for RMAmazing, I knew Craig as well, only slightly, I think you guys were a couple of PGs below me. I remember him being a very decent guy though and you have my sympathy for your loss.
(P.S. To the Biggots... I'm a chick so, don't even bother with your homophobia)
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i dont beleive the people who make breathtakingly moronic comments on other peoples' sexuality are real survivors. I think they are current program associates doing their best to make us - geniuine survivors-look unreliable and juvenile.
honestly, i dont beleive that there are people that are legitamitely that imbecilic
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Hey RMA, I also remember Craig. I have only recently started checking out this and other sites looking to see how people are doing, and I have been surprised to see how many people have passed away. As for Craig, I didn't know him all that well but never had any problems with him either. I'm sorry to hear about his death, and wish you and his family the best.
By the way, I don't know who you are, but feel free to contact me if you want. I was in PG 39 with Judy, Rick, Sarah, Josh, etc. Anyway, take care.
Oh, and you other fucks have some serious issues. Get a life.
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who the fuck is this idiot who i so gay paranoid posting these lame remarks? get a life, get a sex life more like it because you have problems and its obvious nobody wants to fuck you, female or male...........you have much more serious problems than some guy who might be sad about a friends death. granted his posting was a little bit cheesy but people do out of the ordinary shit when they are processing death. something maybe you have never been thru aparently. what up with your "you love the cock" posting? the guy was talking about missing his friend and mentioned marriage....perhaps you secretly "love the cock." not once did he say they were gay buddies. (and who gives a fuck if they were you fucked up fugly hater!) i bet you have a little dick because most peeps with normal to large endowement are chillin. not paranoid, not freakin out about what someone else does to get off. weird that you attack this guy. get a life. find another ugly person or pay someone to get your little prick off and maybe you wont be such an asshole.
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I also new Craig. I remember him the most in that little guitar room in the back with the door closed Playing the good shit he wasn't supposed to be. I always enjoyed that. I am sorry to hear about his passing. I lost my best friend on dec 15 1995 to a snow mobile accident in the mountains. The hurt eventually went away but he never did. I often think about him. Hi Justin I think you were the supporting student on my challenge..SL
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I remember Craig Spitzer as well, he was a great guy. That really is a shame to hear about that, we were in the same peer group for awhile.
I'm really repulsed by some of the comments in here, in a thread about a man, a young man who died way too early. For you to think that is disgusting, to voice it is 100x worse.
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I didn't know him. he came pretty soon after I left. I think the other anon poster must be in jail or something. I feel for your loss and would be very saddened to hear that members of my PG had died so young.
I hated that fucking place though, and all my friends done disappeared.
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I didn't know him. he came pretty soon after I left. I think the other anon poster must be in jail or something. I feel for your loss and would be very saddened to hear that members of my PG had died so young.
I hated that fucking place though, and all my friends done disappeared.
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I Heard about Craig passing a few years ago. I think about him every time I play guitar, as he is the one who encouraged me to start. I was one of the only people to use his guitar with PERMANENT Permission. It was the BEST sounding guitar there, even when people brought in Brand new ones. He was soooo messed up from institutions he had permanent "ticks" from meds he had been given through the years. Ken R was a great guitar player too. Thanks Craig for giving me the gift of music, I will NEVER forget you.
PG49
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The best friend I have ever had in my life was my father. Running a close second was Craig Spitzer. I went through some of the toughest times in my life, at RMA and outside RMA, with him. There was no one else that I had that understood me like him, because of the times and experiences we shared in our lives. I loved him like the brother that I never had.
I regret to inform this forum that he passed away in October of 2004. I just found this forum a few months ago and didn?t know what to say, so this posting is a bit after the fact, but I thought that others that had cared about him needed to know.
I know that RMA was hard for all of us but we all now share a bond that can never be broken.
He was married for 6 years and I was in the wedding. Now I am getting married in October of 2006 and had he been alive he would have been my best man. I will now have my father as my best man. I would never have had him as a friend if not for RMA so for that I am thankful of that place.
We made it through some of the toughest times of our lives together. There are no words to explain how I felt and still feel about Craig that I can ever explain. I will love and miss him always. It?s been over a year and I still can?t let him go. I think about him almost everyday. I wish I could just stop missing him but it just won?t happen. I miss him so much.
Was this man a detainee or a guard/torturer? A former detainee, yes?
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i dont beleive the people who make breathtakingly moronic comments on other peoples' sexuality are real survivors. I think they are current program associates doing their best to make us - geniuine survivors-look unreliable and juvenile.
honestly, i dont beleive that there are people that are legitamitely that imbecilic
There are CEDUites that idiotic, and there are the CEDUites who are not, but pretend such to serve their disgusting agendas. These latter posters have a veiled agenda of propagandizing CEDU as a good, if flawed, “school” at which one acquired “tools.” These CEDUites assume multiple identities through guest posts or with logged avatars.
They don't necessarily say CEDU was helpful, they insinuate it from a variety of standpoints. They’ll state CEDU wasn’t “that bad:” not every former detainee committed suicide, they’ll point out it wasn’t a gulag, just a prison. Or they’ll post ridiculous personal attacks in a thread discussing the death of a loved one. That’ll discourage future posts of the like, eh? That will discourage discovery of CEDU linked premature passings and assemblage of useful information. Posting garbage to make the posts in this forum seem valueless is not beneath them, either.
Those CEDUites wish to minimize and obscure what transpired in those mountain compounds, the deaths, and the torment. Doing so is necessary to preserve their lifestyle. They are still deceiving, lying, manipulating to serve their perverted aims, both on this forum and out in the real world…
I hope survivors not only post in this forum but submit their indescribably needed eyewitness testimony to ISAC and HEAL