Fornits
Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: OverLordd on August 01, 2005, 12:08:00 PM
-
OK guys, I'm trying to make up a list here, just out of curiosity, of all the crimes that could be commited on children while at a industry house. Add as you can think of them, and add as you see fit.
I know there are alot more, but I will start the list off with this...
Kidnapping
-
Crimes is relative, of course, but here?s a few that ?should? be crimes:
Placing a child in violation of the ICPC
Taking educational funds or insurance to cover the costs of institutionalized parenting
Misrepresenting the program to consumers and licensing authorities
Operating without a license and oversight
Unqualified and inexperienced staff
Colluding with one parent to interfere with the rights of the other parent
Censoring mail and phone calls
Not providing a pay phone and the numbers to call to report abuse
Severing contact with parents, family, and the outside world for extended periods of time and without just cause to do so
Severe consequences for minor infractions
Denying or limiting food or contact with parents as punishment
Extended periods of isolation or physical labor as punishment
Denying a child?s medical needs
Restraints
Strip searches
Forcing therapy and confessions
-
Forcing kids to perform maintenance jobs under the guise of teaching them responsibility.
I'm not talking about kids cleaning their own rooms, doing their own laundry and other tasks normally associated with caring for themselves and their surroundings.
I am talking about FORCED LABOR in lieu of hiring outsiders and paying them a wage for maintaining the facility.
:smokin:
-
Ok, based on the things that have been said in the last few posts we can add to the list.
Volating Interstate Laws
Fraud
Operating without licence
Crimial incompatance
Violation of Civil Rights
False imprisonment
Neglect
Torture
Viloation of Labor laws
-
cruel and unusual punishment
-
Indeed, another violation of the protection offered by the consitution.
-
additional violation:
coaching parents to deduct the entire cost of institutionalizing their child on federal tax return for RTC. When infact the "rtc" are not properly licensed. IRS where are you??????
-
sexual predators on staff
-
supply of drugs
-
murder/homicide
-
This is great, we keep adding it on. Keep it coming guys, were doing great, no making things up now.
-
If the RTC is not required to be licensed by the particular state in which it is run, wouldn't that allow someone to deduct the school's expense on their tax return? I know some states do not require licensing to operate. Licensing is a preferred status, not a mandatory one in some states.
-
Which states are you referring to?
Why would it be deductible unless it was a 'medical' expense for 'therapy'? My kids went to private schools and I didn't deduct that expense.
And if it is 'therapy' they should have a license in any state that has a Dept of Protective Services.
Any state that has regulations for child caring institutions will require a license for any facility that houses kids 24/7/365 and provides 'therapy'.
Are they 'schools' or 'therapeutic' warehouses? Get off the fence.
And, if being licensed is a 'prefered status' why would RTCs avoid?
Why would any parent consider sending their kid to a facility that had NO oversight?
-
What about violating laws reagarding a childs right to a proper education? Do any such laws even exist?
As a student at Cedu, I was pulled from classes and placed on indefinate work details (working 12hr. days) for weeks or even months at a time.
Cedu did this to kids all of the time, and my expererience is typical of almost any cedu student.
Cedu's academics were substandard to begin with. We had formal classes (math, english, history, science) ONLY two morings per week. That's 8 hrs per week, which really wasn't enough time to learn anything.
The majority of Cedu's "teachers" didn't even have degrees!
In place of a real education, cedu students spent most of the week doing manual labor and being screamed at in rap sessions. Additionally, students were required to participate in any number of bizarre exercises, which were somehow supposed to prove the validity of all the bullshit program dogma that we were constantly inundated with 24 hours a day!
CEDU knowingly failed to meet their responsibities in preparing their students academically. I believe every child deserves a proper education. It is every child's right to learn useful facts, skills, and ideas, and it is ultimately the responsibity of every school to make sure this happens.
Cedu totally neglected their academic responsibilities. All they ever did was fill kids heads with trauma and bullshit program dogma!
Aren't there any laws out their that protect kid's rights to recieve a real education?
Specifically, do any laws exist that hold "Schools" & "Educational Programs" Accountable? Because they certainly
should.
.
-
Certainly there are laws but there must be complaints filed.
School districts that often provide funds for these programs should investigate to ascertain whether or not the kids are getting an education, which seems to be secondary to the 'therapy'.
My son attended one of the 'more reputible' programs and returned 5 credits behind his peers. He was an a/b student.
What are they paying for? Education or Therapy?
Taxpayers should raise a ruckus too. Who wants their tax dollars going to a program that is basically providing 'parenting' and 'discipline'?
Bring up the issue at PTA meetings. Inquire with the district to find out if they provide funds to programs. Educate them.
-
I used to work as a high school teacher and I quit because I wasnt a teacher anymore, I was a disciplinarian.
-
misuse and abuse of restraints.
unlicensed personell applying restraints.
House doctor must be a real pediatrician, not a PODIATRIST. (this means you, Provo Canyon)
-
On 2005-08-03 06:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I used to work as a high school teacher and I quit because I wasnt a teacher anymore, I was a disciplinarian."
Yeah, take a look at homeschooling literature and chatter. A solid case for educational neglect could be made against the public school system and the governments that fund and compel participation in them. Except, of course, that would break the government and leave the people, who have forced their kids into it for generations now, completely dissilusioned.
I don't think the troubled parent industry has quite that degree of acceptance yet. And they break laws all the time. Most restraint casses start out w/ harassment and escalate into full on assault. Any reasonable person would see that, if they only took a serious look. I think the key here is to get the basic story out by way of news, documentaries, art and free-form discussion so that the general public will just recognize these crimes for what they are.
...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana
is its effect on the degenerate races.
Harry Anslinger
-
Heres a question! Some of the posting just reminded me. What about the no child left behind act? they are considered schools are they not? Don't they have to be held in compliance to the no child left behind act?
-
" Heres a question! Some of the posting just reminded me. What about the no child left behind act? they are considered schools are they not? Don't they have to be held in compliance to the no child left behind act?"
They sure as hell should be!
I like the way you think, Over Lord.