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Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2006, 03:36:00 PM
I found this and was curious as to what the differing opinions might be about it.


According to a University of Minnesota student survey in February, 45 percent of students binge-drink. That means they had five or more drinks in one sitting within the previous two weeks.


http://www.startribune.com/389/story/276785.html (http://www.startribune.com/389/story/276785.html)



Drinking: How much is too much?

Young adults often don't know how much alcohol can make them drunk -- or send them to the hospital. Mostly it depends on genes, size and gender.

Josephine Marcotty
Last update: February 28, 2006 ? 7:18 PM

Drinking in college is the norm, right? After all, about three-fourths of the nation?s college kids ages 18 to 24 drink, a number that?s held pretty steady since at least since 1992. But that number has a dark side. Binge drinking and all the dangers that come with it are on the rise.
Two years ago, Jason Reinhardt died of alcohol poisoning on the morning of his 21st birthday after trying to drink 21 drinks in an hour at a bar in Moorhead, Minn. ? an amount that could kill anyone of normal size.

His blood-alcohol content was 0.36. Patrick Kycia, 19, of Stillwater, a sophomore at Minnesota State University, Moorhead, died in October after stumbling, drunk, into the Red River. Six members of a fraternity were charged with felonies in connection with his death.

And last month St. Cloud State University student Scot Radel, 21, disappeared after a night of bar-hopping not far from campus. He hasn?t been found, but police say shoeprints similar to Radel?s were found on the bank of the Mississippi River.

According to a University of Minnesota student survey in February, 45 percent of students binge-drink. That means they had five or more drinks in one sitting within the previous two weeks.

The survey also found that students usually have little sense of how drunk they are when they drink. And almost a third who drink a lot have some kind of bad experience related to it ? from throwing up to being raped.

Young adults often have no idea, until they learn the hard way, how much is too much.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 02, 2006, 07:47:00 PM
Hmm, more than 5 drinks in one sitting?  Does that mean you have to drink them all without getting up  from the table or is it just that you can't go to the bathroom?  I've gotta wonder how that rule applies in my own situation.  I'm holding a 64 oz bottle of beer, which is slightly more than 5 drinks in one container.  Here's the dilemma: If I DON'T drink it all in one sitting, it's gonna go flat.  So am I a binge drinker, or a frugal consumer who doesn't like to waste resources?  Anyways, I'm starting to get into advanced alcoholic theory, back to drunken escapades 101...

Here's a guide that's helped me out quite a bit over the years.  Since I've done a lot of drinking, and travelled some of the roads that you're better off avoiding, I figured I'd share the wisdom that's kept my liver from going on strike these many booze filled years.

Go through this list and check all that apply, if you score less than 3, you probably need to drink more.

Are you currently sitting in a jail cell?
If you answered "yes" to the previous question, did you wake up in the cell?
Has your head taken up permanent residence in a toilet bowl?
Are you currently trying to figure out just how exactly a golf cart found it's way into your living room?
Look at your hand: do you see more than 8 fingers?
Is anyone staring at you with a look of terror and/or disgust?
Look yourself over: Are there more than 2 different body fluids staining your clothes?
Are you wearing clothes?
Have you finished all the alcoholic beverages in your possession?
Do you still rely on your elders to supply you with alcohol?
If you answered "no" to the last 2 questions, why are you still reading this?  For that matter, why am I still typing this?  I'm not even drunk yet.[ This Message was edited by: Goodtobefree on 2006-03-02 16:53 ]
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2006, 07:50:00 PM
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On 2006-03-02 16:47:00, Goodtobefree wrote:

"Here's a helpful guide that's helped me out quite a bit over the years.  Since I've done a lot of drinking, and travelled some of the roads that you're better off avoiding, I figured I'd share the wisdom that's kept my liver from going on strike these many booze filled years.



Go through this list and check all that apply, if you score less than 3, you probably need to drink more.



Are you currently sitting in a jail cell?

If you answered "yes" to the previous question, did you wake up in the cell?

Has your head taken up permanent residence in a toilet bowl?

Are you currently trying to figure out just how exactly a golf cart found it's way into your living room?

Look at your hand: do you see more than 8 fingers?

Is anyone staring at you with a look of terror and/or disgust?

Look yourself over: Are there more than 2 different body fluids staining your clothes?

Are you wearing clothes?

Have you finished all the alcoholic beverages in your possession?

Do you still rely on your elders to supply you with alcohol?

If you answered "no" to the last 2 questions, why are you still reading this?  For that matter, why am I still typing this?  I'm not even drunk yet."


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 02, 2006, 08:44:00 PM
It's been a little less than an hour since my last post, and no one has answered my question about frugality versus alcoholism.  I decided to err on the side of caution.  If it turns out I'm a binge drinker, I can always go to AA, but if it turns out I'm not, and I'm just consuming beer 64 ounces at a time to avoid it going flat, then I'm gonna have a whole lot of flat beer to drink.  Rather than drinking a whole lot of flat beer, I decided to drink a lot of beer that still had flavor and carbonation.  Now that I've got a little bit of a buzz going, I'm thinking about opening up another one of these things.  I'll be back within the hour to let everyone know how it worked out.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
:lol:  :lol:


Updates?
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 03, 2006, 02:10:00 AM
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On 2006-03-02 20:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

" :lol:  :lol:





Updates?"


Here's an update.  I drank 64 oz of Extra Special Bitter, and 64 oz of Blueberry ale.  Then I smoked a double filtered 2 footer bong.  If I stop making sense in the near future, it's only because I started drinking screwdrivers and white russians.  Put me back on a solid beer and whiskey regimen and I promise to be good.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Angel Lux on March 03, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
According to my shrink, someone who drinks more than 2 drinks in one sitting and/or more than 10 drinks in one week is a heavy drinker.  He did not specify how much alcohol is in "one drink".  So in theory one can start ordering quad-shots at the bar and drinking wine out of big-gulp cups from the gas station when at home, and not be considered a heavy drinker, right?  The 64 oz. beer should pass by the same logic.  :razz:
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 04, 2006, 05:50:00 AM
In retrospect, I think that last night went well.  No flat beer, and a damn good buzz.  This morning was another story.  All in all, I think I drank about 1.5 gallons of beer last night.  But I only opened 4 bottles the whole night.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2006, 10:30:00 AM
Drinking doesn't agree with me as much as smoking fine bud does... but I do enjoy a good white russian. (http://http://www.seedboutique.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=23&products_id=340)
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 05, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
White Russians are excellent, especially when you're watching The Big Lebowski.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: bandit1978 on March 07, 2006, 01:39:00 AM
"one drink" is equal to one ounce of hard liquor, or 12 ounces of beer, or 6 ounces of wine.  

If you open a large container of beer and don't want to finish the whole thing, don't despair, there are many household uses for superfluous alcohol.  

Mix beer into a beef and vegetable stew or a cheese fondue, or use it to steam mussels.  Or share some with your dog.

Champagne can be used to poach or saute fish (best with white, light fish).

My boyfriend has recently started marinating EVEYRTHING in Grey Goose vodka (beef, pork, ect...), and the meat turns out really delicious.  Especially when served with a dirty Grey Goose martini.  

Bonus- stuff a Xanax into the olive of that martini, it's called a Xantini.  Your friends will marvel at your ingenuity.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 07, 2006, 02:21:00 AM
What does "superfluous alcohol" mean?  If it means what I think it means, it's gotta be an oxymoron, like leftover crack.  Man, you KNOW there ain't NO SUCH THING as leftover crack!
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2006, 08:26:00 AM
GoodtoBeFree -- If you're serious, you really hate your liver.

Yeah, if you're serious, you're an alcoholic.

What you do or don't do about that is your business, not mine.

I'm not going to preach at you about it.

Just, well, if you're drinking 64 oz beers at a setting, once a week or more, it's not so it won't go flat.  It's because you want to drink that much beer.  They sell beer in 12 oz cans or bottles, you know. :wink:

Yeah, you're a binge drinker and an alcoholic, if you wondered.

Again, your business what you do or don't do about that, as long as you don't drink and drive.

Julie
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2006, 08:36:00 AM
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On 2006-03-07 05:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"GoodtoBeFree -- If you're serious, you really hate your liver.



Yeah, if you're serious, you're an alcoholic.



What you do or don't do about that is your business, not mine.



I'm not going to preach at you about it.



Just, well, if you're drinking 64 oz beers at a setting, once a week or more, it's not so it won't go flat.  It's because you want to drink that much beer.  They sell beer in 12 oz cans or bottles, you know. :wink:



Yeah, you're a binge drinker and an alcoholic, if you wondered.



Again, your business what you do or don't do about that, as long as you don't drink and drive.



Julie"


Lighten up.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 07, 2006, 12:03:00 PM
Julie, first off, alcoholics are people who admit they can't moderate their desire for alcohol.  If anything, it would be more accurate to call me a drunk/pothead.  Anyways, I wouldn't read too much into these posts.  I enjoy my beer as much as the next guy, as well as my bourbon, scotch, tequila, rum, wine, etc., I just wanted to add some humor to the thread.  
I don't know how many of those stupid "this is what 1 drink is" posters at college, as well as all the other silly "binge drinking" info that was on every wall of every building.  I just can't take it seriously anymore.  I'm 5'11" and 280lbs, 5 beers in one night just makes me take extra trips to the can.  On the other hand, some people can't even drink that much without getting sick.  By the "5 drinks at a time" logic, a girl who weighs 100lbs is drinking in moderation if she gets loaded on 3 beers a night, but I would be a binge drinker, for drinking a 6 pack in the same time period, even though I'll barely have a buzz going, regardless of how often or how much I drink, and she'll be completely shitfaced on a nightly basis.
I really hate it when people try to quote statistics like that with absolutely no context, and no concern for the multitude of factors that go into a person's decision to consume alcohol or anything else.  Rather than discussing the stupid "5 drinks" rule, I felt like saying something humorous.
And no, I don't hate my liver anymore.  It went on strike for a while, but we resumed negotiations and reached a settlement.  I agreed to follow a couple of safety regulations and improve working conditions, and my liver agrees to push back retirement until at least 65.  And just to straighten things out, I know I'm not preventing the beer from going flat.  But it takes 2 64oz beers and a lot of bong hits to reach a level of intoxication where the voices in my head stop, and sleep becomes theoretically possible.  Usually I just converse with the voices and drink lots of coffee so I won't fall asleep at the wheel, but every once in a while it's nice to be merry and cheerful and sleep through the night without having flashbacks.  By the way, I know you're not trying to preach, I just figured I'd elaborate for the hell of it.  I think that substance consumption among program survivors is a topic that merits discussion.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on March 07, 2006, 12:30:00 PM
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On 2006-03-06 22:39:00, bandit1978 wrote:

""one drink" is equal to one ounce of hard liquor, or 12 ounces of beer, or 6 ounces of wine.  



If you open a large container of beer and don't want to finish the whole thing, don't despair, there are many household uses for superfluous alcohol.  



Mix beer into a beef and vegetable stew or a cheese fondue, or use it to steam mussels.  Or share some with your dog.



Champagne can be used to poach or saute fish (best with white, light fish).



My boyfriend has recently started marinating EVEYRTHING in Grey Goose vodka (beef, pork, ect...), and the meat turns out really delicious.  Especially when served with a dirty Grey Goose martini.  



Bonus- stuff a Xanax into the olive of that martini, it's called a Xantini.  Your friends will marvel at your ingenuity.

"


I have an idea.......why don't we just cook up Goodtobefree's liver? That things been marinating for quite a while!!!

Just kidding.......hahahaha!
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 07, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
Why not dry out my lungs and smoke em while we're at it?
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on March 07, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
I don't smoke anything....no cigs, no pot, no anything else!!!!

But, I love trying new recipes! lol
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: bandit1978 on March 07, 2006, 03:24:00 PM
I don't need to smoke your lungs; I've got plenty of superfluous crack (thats cause I use in moderation, like former mayor Marion Bary.  Always leave a bit leftover, that goes for my dinner plate as well.)
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: bandit1978 on March 07, 2006, 03:25:00 PM
I mean, if you ALWAYS smoke EVERY BIT of your crack, that might make you a CRACKHEAD, right?
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 07, 2006, 04:11:00 PM
I was actually quoting the band "Leftover Crack" on why their band's name was a misnomer.  But yes, the good mayor is a prime example of crack cocaine being used in moderation.  If you want a good role model for responsible alcohol use, I offer up Senator Edward Kennedy.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Nihilanthic on March 07, 2006, 06:49:00 PM
Im currently enjoying a nice newcastle brown ale... I must say tasty beer is quite a change from the watery crap I usually see drunk by people my age (21) or younger  :rofl:
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: LauraLee on March 07, 2006, 09:44:00 PM
Fallin' prey to drugs,
Sportin' body bugs,
Rock the 40oz.
It's the change that counts,

Just don't get locked up in jail,
'Cuz no ones gonna have the bail,
Takin' time to break the laws,
Then I'll lick my dirty paws,
Dodging all the lies I'm fed,
I'll live my life and then I'm dead.

 :tup:  :tup:  :tup:

Rock the 40 oz, a la Leftover Crack!
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2006, 11:30:00 PM
Quote
On 2006-03-07 09:03:00, Goodtobefree wrote:

"Julie, first off, alcoholics are people who admit they can't moderate their desire for alcohol.  If anything, it would be more accurate to call me a drunk/pothead.  Anyways, I wouldn't read too much into these posts.  I enjoy my beer as much as the next guy, as well as my bourbon, scotch, tequila, rum, wine, etc., I just wanted to add some humor to the thread.  

I don't know how many of those stupid "this is what 1 drink is" posters at college, as well as all the other silly "binge drinking" info that was on every wall of every building.  I just can't take it seriously anymore.  I'm 5'11" and 280lbs, 5 beers in one night just makes me take extra trips to the can.  On the other hand, some people can't even drink that much without getting sick.  By the "5 drinks at a time" logic, a girl who weighs 100lbs is drinking in moderation if she gets loaded on 3 beers a night, but I would be a binge drinker, for drinking a 6 pack in the same time period, even though I'll barely have a buzz going, regardless of how often or how much I drink, and she'll be completely shitfaced on a nightly basis.

I really hate it when people try to quote statistics like that with absolutely no context, and no concern for the multitude of factors that go into a person's decision to consume alcohol or anything else.  Rather than discussing the stupid "5 drinks" rule, I felt like saying something humorous.

And no, I don't hate my liver anymore.  It went on strike for a while, but we resumed negotiations and reached a settlement.  I agreed to follow a couple of safety regulations and improve working conditions, and my liver agrees to push back retirement until at least 65.  And just to straighten things out, I know I'm not preventing the beer from going flat.  But it takes 2 64oz beers and a lot of bong hits to reach a level of intoxication where the voices in my head stop, and sleep becomes theoretically possible.  Usually I just converse with the voices and drink lots of coffee so I won't fall asleep at the wheel, but every once in a while it's nice to be merry and cheerful and sleep through the night without having flashbacks.  By the way, I know you're not trying to preach, I just figured I'd elaborate for the hell of it.  I think that substance consumption among program survivors is a topic that merits discussion."


I said if you were serious.  If you weren't, I'm glad. :wink:

Julie
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: the inmatte on March 08, 2006, 03:15:00 AM
sweeeeeet
that's how one leboski got the fortitude to seek the other,promise of the dime to make up for the fukin rug? :em:
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: bandit1978 on March 08, 2006, 09:15:00 AM
Niles, is crack really your drug of choice?  If so, come on up to DC, cause we've got plenty to go around.

It's always nice to welcome new crackheads to the neighborhood.  Marion Barry is still around, looking as good as ever, and sporting a variety of young ladies on his arm.  

Actually, I think he may head up the Crackhead Welcome Wagon.  All new crackheads receive, amongst other goodies, a map to some of the more popular crack houses, a small assortment of Bic lighters, and a cab voucher to the university hospital.  

I know what you guys are thinking.  DC really is a great place to call home.
Title: Binge drinking
Post by: Goodtobefree on March 09, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
DC is the only place I've been where "do you know how to get to 8th street?" means "I want to buy crack." At least that's what it meant when I got lost around the Naval Annex.