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Ah my favorite topic! Do they suffer from medical neglect? Hell yeah!

The program I was in the first time took advantage of my having depression . I had an EEG and Ct Scan that said due to irregularities it should be repeated in 6 mos. Was I ever told? NO. Four programs later I was transferred to a REAL hospital and I had another irregular EEG and a irregular MRI. Only then did I find out about the previous EEG and CT Scan. The first program told me it was my fault I was depressed. Guess what I have seizures! The depression is a result of the seizures.

I spent four years thinking I was BAD and having flashbacks. They were auras and I am not BAD. I am a regular person. This is the first time I am saying this on here. I hope it does not shock anyone. Yes I have them. My siblings do not talk to me because of the programs! It all sucks!

I will live though! I take my meds and go on. I am an adversary of programs! Thank you very much. I lost four years of my life. I finished college late, and I now have problems with intimacy due to "BANS". So thanks you very much, Mr. Program. The other thing that happened was that I caught pneumonia in each program. In all of them they told me it was psychosomatic! They also refused to treat it. To this day I get it. I am getting over a bout right now. It is not psychosomatic! It is due to a late diagnosis of lupus! Can you imagine that being left untreated?

I can relate to the athlete's foot issue! I get that periodically due to my immune system. It is a bitch! That poor guy! It is sick what program's DON'T do in the name of treatment. Anne , I am sorry you went through that! That is truly sick! I was told stupid shit like that and I have tried to not let it bother me, but it is not easy!

This is all scary! I was almost sent to Sierra Vista during that time for codependency. I felt that was a pile of shit and changed therapists. I almost applied for a job at West Oaks about 10 years ago! I am glad I ran late to that interview. They are close to where I live! UGH!

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Thank you for the ban! Her threats were getting out of hand. I don't like being called a "carpet muncher". Her references to the Mossad were always violent and out of hand. Thank you. Depro Grammed if you need anything give a shout. You know where to find me.

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Still looking for help. If you can help out please let me know! I will email you details if you are sincerely available and interested.

That "I am giving you TPITW right now and it is organic to boot!".

I am trying to get from SE Texas to Denver. I am trying to exist with lupus in a place that makes me most happy and healthy! When I am in a drier climate, I have less pain and less lung issues. The drive through NM and SE Colorado puts me to sleep. So any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I've noticed some posters on fornits make the argument that the "professionals" should be left to deal with troubled teens, and suggest parents seek the services of psychiatry, and adolescent psychiatric hospitals to act as a safety net when dealing with a mentally ill or self destructive teenager.

What reasons do people have to assume psychiatry or psychiatric hospitalization is superior to say, a wilderness program?

What reasons would someone suggest that psychiatric medication therapy is better than say, large group awareness training?

As someone who has experienced both version of treatment, I do believe there is some differences between the two. I don't have to get into details at this moment, and I wanted to post this thread before I forgot about it. But I will come back and make detailed posts using my own expereinces as the foundation for my opinions on this subject. But in the mean time, people can think about this and come up with their own arguments and theories.

Are there alternatives to programs like psychiatry that offer solutions to the same problems parents are facing when thinking about sending their teen to a program?

Why do so many parents seek out private programs, when psychiatric services are readily available?

There are no reasons. I spent 4 years in psych programs (inpatient and outpt). There is little difference. I saw hypothermia, overuse of mechanical restraints, and overuse of solitary confinement. Overuse is anything beyond a reassessment at 15 minute intervals, and bugs in my food (industry standard).

LGATs and Psych hospitals are very much alike. Visit one as a patient and you shall see. You are demeaned, locked up "for your own safety" and told when to piss and poop.

Are there other solutions? Pay attention to your kids! Treat them like humans. Don't hit them, yell at them, or abuse them in anyway shape or form. Send them to a relative that cares if you can't handle them. Maybe the relative has an inkling. My grandparents knew from looking at me, that I was miserable and did not belong in a program. They knew I was gay and that was not wrong. I would have been with strict people that understood me.

Parents are fed up with parenting or the problems involved in parenting. Their own parents did not want to bother and they use that as an excuse. I have heard the excuses. There are no excuses!!!.

Get creative. Had my parents let me take the GED and start college it would have solved the "so called" problem. I was bored and a lesbian! Once I was in college and 2000 miles away I was much happier, and stopped doing drugs. I am back home and using drugs (then again, I do have real physical pain) again. Put 2+2 together! Think with as much of a brain as you have.