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Brat Camp / Has anyone been through Redcliff Ascent?
« on: April 29, 2006, 04:10:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-24 16:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

"i went through redcliff, it was tough, and i was there for 108 days, ultimetly i went to a theraputic boarding school and than i ran away"

Was that boarding school Hyde?

He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_12s4.html' target='_new'> James Burgh 1774


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Hyde Schools / Current Students Revolt!
« on: April 19, 2006, 04:28:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-19 10:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

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Eventually, one of them got frustrated enough to throw a closed fisted punch to my face, breaking my nose. I still didn't react. Sr. Staff actually gave up and quit the business and just started ignoring me from that point.




People that bully are looking for a reaction as a validation of there existance. Human nature is all the same no matter where you are.  The thing that Hyde and your program do is take the natural behaviour of kids to peer pressure and bully and turn it into a force that up holds the program.



Sue





Sue"

So did Hyde make you a more effective bully?

Zany fun. It was a first - even Ben Franklin never arranged for something like this, and he was full of himself.

http://media.orkut.com/writers/0009.html' target='_new'>John Gorenfeld


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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 19, 2006, 04:19:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-18 17:05:00, Anonymous wrote:


Tom Allan, great to hear from you!  I couldn't agree more and there's a related question I've been thinking abotu...is it really ever ok to toss a kid from their house before they are 18?  I am thinking not.  No matter how bad.  Don't parents have a legal obligation to clothe and shelter kids under 18?



former outhouse dweller"

I don't think that there were any specific laws against throwing your kids out in the '70s. Some states passed "throwaway" laws in the '80s.

A fundamentalist Christian President who claims God told him to invade Iraq ? an act that killed more than 150,000 civilians, mostly women and children ? is not that much different from a fundamentalist Islamic fanatic who claims it is the will of Allah that he send young men to America to crash airliners into office buildings and kill 3,000 plus.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7501.shtml' target='_new'>DOUG THOMPSON


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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 18, 2006, 04:26:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-18 11:06:00, Eudora wrote:

"It's not about the experience as it's happening. It's about having your family send you off for reprograming, becoming programed themselves and, for some people, the permanent situation of having to either pretend you like them and yourself much better than the old you/family, etc. or be held openly in contempt for refusing to adapt to it. It's about being orphaned. It's about having to choose between fidelity to yourself and membership in good standing in your own family.



Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.

--Friedrich Nietzsche





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Drug war POW  

Straight, Sarasota

`80 - `82

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The pressure goes a little deeper than that. When I was there in '76 Hyde used to advise parents to throw you out of the house if you didn't like Hyde.

When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=william+blake' target='_new'>William Blake


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Hyde Schools / Any HYDE STAFFERS willing to post?
« on: March 06, 2006, 03:03:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-05 15:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

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I noted the redlon road rental.  I thought that was a receivable.  Are you saying the house Joe is in is ownd by the Gauld's and the school is renting the propery from the Gaulds to house Joe?  Man! I should have married Gigi.



Sid"

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy!  :lol:

What a distressing contrast there is between the radiant intelligence of the child and the feeble mentality of the average adult.
-- Sigmund Freud


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Open Free for All / SVP: Sexually Violent Predators
« on: September 15, 2011, 08:14:52 AM »
I do get that these are rapists and that nobody likes these guys. But then the natural extention of this would be to minor drug offenders (or drug offenders who are minors) who "remain in denial".

If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be -- a Christian.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist


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Tacitus' Realm / Musings About the War on Drugs
« on: March 03, 2006, 04:28:00 PM »
I've wondered why we don't see much here about Phoenix House here. They're the biggest TC around.

Impiety: Your irreverence toward my deity.
--Ambrose Bierce


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Hyde Schools / "Shoreland" shines a light on Gulag schools like Hyde
« on: February 27, 2006, 02:54:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-27 08:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I think we were there at the same time.  I was there the summer the mansion burnt. I some times wonder what became of Phil. I actually liked Henry.  I kind of felt bad about his wife running off with Todd.  Todd and Marsha sang well together.



 A survivor of the Joe and Ed show



 



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I was there the year after the fire. Never heard any story about Milton's wife running off with anyone.

Don't let your dogma run out in front of your karma.
--Anonymous


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Hyde Schools / Hyde School, The Most Truthful Informative Post I have Seen
« on: February 27, 2006, 02:48:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-24 12:45:00, OKB4RMA wrote:


3. List the resources that are available to the students at Hyde. You know...the ones that cost money. What is the science lab like? Is there a planetarium? How many tennis courts? Soccer Fields? etc. etc. etc.


Big Olympic style gym and a pretty good outdoor track in Bath. Both new in '76. Old classrooms in the back of the Mansion. Priority...Sports!
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5. Describe...in detail...the weekly menu that a Hyde child eats.



Food was actually not that bad. Of course if you wrestled in the winter you didn't dare eat much of it, might not make weight. Priority...Sports!

Religion is just mind control.
--George Carlin, comedian


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Information Please for my daughter ..I am trying to get her
« on: February 24, 2006, 01:43:00 PM »
floridatresure, who's PAYING for the program? If it's you try not sending them money and pleading poverty. She might then "graduate from the program" so fast it'd make your head spin.

An individual who should survive his physical death is beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls.

--Albert Einstein


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Hyde Schools / "Shoreland" shines a light on Gulag schools like Hyde
« on: February 24, 2006, 01:30:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-23 17:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"MMM hyde in the 70's.  Those were the days.  Where is henry milton now?  "

I've often wondered about that myself. I always thought that he'd end up working for an outfit like WWASP or Straight, Inc. but I've never seen his name come up in any posts about either one.

You know....if the Seed was in Utah, who knows how many "wives" the old bastard would have.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10274&forum=8&start=26#155924' target='_new'>Jupiter Survivor


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Ginger is the Cookie Monster
« on: February 19, 2006, 06:42:00 PM »
Sorry, this post lost

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Public Sector Gulags / Teen?s death prompts calls to shut boot camp
« on: February 18, 2006, 03:19:00 PM »
Florida is now saying that the kid died of sickle cell "trait". Riiiight...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/16/boot.camp/index.html
BTW CNN had a brief piece about this on Anderson Cooper last night. They were too nice to the staff but did show some of the video.

For more than a hundred years much complaint has been made of the unmethodical way in which schools are conducted...with what result?  Schools remain exactly as they were.
--Comenius,1632


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Public Sector Gulags / Utah Rehab Program Under Investigation
« on: February 06, 2006, 01:44:00 PM »
Synanon used to use it's inmates for slave labor too. Back in the day they were the biggest manufacturer of pens and pencils with advertising on them.

Even a little boy sees rottenness rewarded and good people smacked down. Unctuous rationalizations of this by otherwise sensible adults disgust little children.
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/10i.htm' target='_new'>John Taylor Gatto


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Hyde Schools / hyde edit emails?
« on: January 20, 2006, 05:41:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-19 12:53:00, Anonymous wrote:




Don't remember, but you remember how bad Hyde was, right Tommy?  Guess what?  It is still the same in 2006!!"

Then tell me something else. When I was there in '76 if they really wanted to get brutal with someone on 2-4 they'd give him a shovel and make him dig his own grave and fill it back in over and over again. See the movie "Cool Hand Luke". Sometime a while back a pro-Hyde poster said that they don't do that one anymore. Do they?

Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic. The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom.
--Abridged quote-Benjamin Rush, M.D., a signer of the Declaration of Independence


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