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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Froderik on September 23, 2014, 09:40:14 PM
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How much longer will we sit here twiddling our thumbs, waiting for the "Facebook crowd" to check in here? I'm not on Facebook right now, so I don't know if anyone on there cares. Facebook is a circle-jerk of approval and status. Is Fornits doomed to obscurity in the face of facebook? Does anybody 'LIKE' the idea of revitalizing this site besides the few who have put forth recent efforts?
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Maybe it is naive positivism to want to resurrect this "sewer filled with hate, lies, and verbal violence (sic)."
Like you, I'm really tired of facebook right now... and want discussion to happen elsewhere.
So naturally we migrate back to from whence we came...
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I hear you; I might need even longer to achieve that.
But I don't know if that is why I like to post here..
Is this nothing more than a habit?
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Yes, it becomes easier and easier to see as time marches on toward the endgame. At this particular point in time it seems that they are afraid that we are no longer afraid enough. If we're not afraid enough, then they can't do what they want, which causes them to become desperate.. when they get desperate they tend to do stupid, desperate and extreme things.
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"Biologically speaking, man is a moderately gregarious, not a completely social animal -- a creature more like a wolf, let us say, or an elephant, than like a bee or an ant. In their original form human societies bore no resemblance to the hive or the ant heap; they were merely packs. Civilization is, among other things, the process by which primitive packs are transformed into an analogue, crude and mechanical, of the social insects' organic communities. At the present time the pressures of over-population and technological change are accelerating this process. The termitary has come to seem a realizable and even, in some eyes, a desirable ideal. Needless to say, the ideal will never in fact be realized. A great gulf separates the social insect from the not too gregarious, big-brained mammal; and even though the mammal should do his best to imitate the insect, the gulf would remain. However hard they try, men cannot create a social organism, they can only create an organization. In the process of trying to create an organism they will merely create a totalitarian despotism."
~ Aldous Huxley
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How much longer will we sit here twiddling our thumbs, waiting for the "Facebook crowd" to check in here? I'm not on Facebook right now, so I don't know if anyone on there cares. Facebook is a circle-jerk of approval and status. Is Fornits doomed to obscurity in the face of facebook? Does anybody 'LIKE' the idea of revitalizing this site besides the few who have put forth recent efforts?
My hope is that we can simply restore the conversation as it was taking place here on fornits, some years back. I am not too impressed with the dialogue on Fb, which is full of unoriginal ideas, memes, other shallow bullshit and is essentially a submissive-authroitarian wet dream. I'm not twiddlin my thumbs waiting to turn fornits into Fb. Fornits is better because I think a certain level of anonymity, helps keep the conversation honest, or closer to it anyway, and yet there can also be continuity in conversation, as long as there is a user name to identify fornits posters with.
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How much longer will we sit here twiddling our thumbs, waiting for the "Facebook crowd" to check in here? I'm not on Facebook right now, so I don't know if anyone on there cares. Facebook is a circle-jerk of approval and status. Is Fornits doomed to obscurity in the face of facebook? Does anybody 'LIKE' the idea of revitalizing this site besides the few who have put forth recent efforts?
My hope is that we can simply restore the conversation as it was taking place here on fornits, some years back. I am not too impressed with the dialogue on Fb, which is full of unoriginal ideas, memes, other shallow bullshit and is essentially a submissive-authroitarian wet dream. I'm not twiddlin my thumbs waiting to turn fornits into Fb. Fornits is better because I think a certain level of anonymity, helps keep the conversation honest, or closer to it anyway, and yet there can also be continuity in conversation, as long as there is a user name to identify fornits posters with.
Right.. this medium can't really become that; it's just a regular old forum... I wouldn't want to try to ~drag everybody here, or anything.. let them find it for themselves, for the most part..but there are a few people I wish were posting here who posted in the old days.. forum veterans.. like on that other thread..
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I think we have to have some patience Froderik. I am just inviting the ol hardcores back, personally, one at a time.
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Dragonfly... It's good to have awareness, but without some discretion it's not worth much by itself. I sometimes think you are your own worst enemy, over obsessing on the details and wondering where your life went, all the while shooing it away your own self. You're one 'a' my truly great friends in this life and I have tons and tons of respect and love for you, but sometimes you just gotta shake it off. There is a difference between being programmed and living. I don't think that the program is as old as Life itself. I think the program is as old as civilization. You have to make certain compromises in the civilized world, if you want to have the things that you need to live. That doesn't mean you have to surrender your intentional consciousness though...
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It sounds like the source of art to me, but I reckon there was art long before the people were civilized too.
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Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it.
~ Philip K. Dick
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The facebook crowd is full of tryhard fucktards, I dropped out of 99 percent of the groups on facebook after having my feeds jammed repeatedly about the same exact shit from 88 different groups.
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The facebook crowd is full of tryhard fucktards, I dropped out of 99 percent of the groups on facebook after having my feeds jammed repeatedly about the same exact shit from 88 different groups.
I'm glad to see you are still posting here. I guess it took me 7 years to realize I am not so crazy about "social networking." Not that anyone can hide from Uncle Sam (if you think you can, let me know), but there is more anonymity on a forum than you get there. Worse than that, I truly DISLIKE the dynamic on there with the ass-kissing "like" feature... and the fact that any user can "report" posts as "offensive." Fuuuuuuuuuck that!
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Social networking has its place, I'm just not convinced it is a place for deeper conversation. The internet has this awesome potential for disseminating information, yet tends to get used by retards shouting louder than everyone else. Activism on facebook even coined its own nickname, slacktivism.
I'm all for activism, protesting, and all that but... I just don't see much of that going on with facebook. I see a lot of posturing, I see a lot of allegations being slung, I see a lot of people repeatedly posting the same thing over and over in different groups.
I had all but given up on tti activism when i got an email from HEAL. Apparently someone hacked them and I was blamed. Angela, bless her, posted that she was certain it wasn't me and so on.
I mean now, I'm just sort of confused, people left to facebook because they were looking for something different? They were thinking fornits was a toxic forum?
And they kept doing the same exact shit that they were doing before?
Anyhow, bit of a disjointed rant.
I plan on posting here more, I've had a couple very strange things happen in the last two weeks. Not sure I feel like talking about them publicly, but in short, one of the fellows I worked with tracked me down and we had a talk via email. Nice kid, he's about to graduate university and will be going to law school. Oh well, 1 out of 2 ain't so bad I guess.
Mostly I log in to check to see if any moderating needs to be done.
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Precisely.. its function is misused, so to speak. The Facebook groups are essentially souped-up chatrooms; they are simply not an adequate substitute for a real forum (Threads get buried, and the search feature works only some of the time. And what you see on Facebook is customized and selective, everyone in their own little world with their arbitrary feeds. Some morons will refer to it as "my" Facebook, which is telling.)
Regarding any migration from here to there that took place, Facebook became the novelty at about the same time that Fornits was having its own problems.. you and I both know that people have always talked shit about Fornits... that's nothing new.. but there were some internal problems at about that time, if memory serves.. (maybe you will elaborate a bit here?)
Yeah, not much changed except for the platform.. and for the worse, really..
Anyway, it's good to see a familiar "face" here.. no pun intended. ;D
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straight was mass hypnosis trance inducement....facebook is mass hypnosis trance inducement
fornits is too primitive for all that, but still reminded me of review at times
Monday morning on Fornits = homes rap with coffee.
Like the cartoon sheepdog passing the cartoon coyote...punch the clock...hi bob...let's get to the bottom of this brainwashing totem pole with no vaseline.
WET NOODLE....poor WET NOODLE
yep, this medium is way better for discussion, warts and all...
I love that by default there are no "notifications" popping up here...
Yeah they would call kids 'sponges' too..hang signs on 'em. totem pole, no vaseline.
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Not sure what you mean about internal issues. I think probably it can be summed up as too many damaged people in too close of proximity of each other.
As for the internal IT problems, I think they got resolved once the forums found a stable home on webdiva's server.
No more being thrown off a host because of moronic dcma claims and all that.
There was a lot of toxic shit that went down on this forum, I played a role in that. Yet, it served as a place where kids could communicate with each other even while still inside the program. The Wssapites have an article floating around about students on homeleave sneaking onto fornits to make contact with grads.
That's one example.
For all the toxic shit that went down, there are redemption stories. Many of them, of kids being diverted from programs. Kids being picked up at programs.
The unmoderated nature of fornits does need to be reigned in a bit. I think the new rules take care of that, no outright naming a poster or linking to their social media profiles.
Now people just need a reason to return.
What is the purpose of being here? Shooting the shit or something else?
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Well, there was the relentless activity from the industry trolls. I guess that must have been what I was thinking of. Everything else got taken care of, like you say here. Interesting, about the kids still inside a program communicating on here with people who were out. The technical medium alone is reason enough for me. As for activism, you have a searchable database that works, and posts are always visible to everyone on the web (not exclusive to social media). It works fine for shooting the shit too, though it doesn't have that "chatroom" feel that facebook has.
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I always thought the industry trolls added hilarious value. Some of them were high comedy.
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I always thought the industry trolls added hilarious value. Some of them were high comedy.
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Where is Rivers of Shit when you need him?