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by WTF2 » 19 Aug 2010, 22:42

This is a book about one girls life in and outside of Elan ,
If you were in Elan in the 70's I would think its a must read! I ordered my book cant wait to read it, WAY TO GO Mary O! THANK YOU!  
seeking love and acceptance on a path of adversity. by ... See MoreSusan Kelly.

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Re: elan book
by Eliscu2 » Yesterday, 20:58

WTF2 wrote:
This is a book about one girls life in and outside of Elan ,
If you were in Elan in the 70's I would think its a must read! I ordered my book cant wait to read it, WAY TO GO Mary O! THANK YOU!  
seeking love and acceptance on a path of adversity. by ... See MoreSusan Kelly.


THERE WILL BE NO BOOK, IN FACT THERE WILL BE NONE OF YOU LEFT TO TELL ANYTHING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZprVPKi-W6s
Violent actions of the bad people
Silence and indifference of the good people
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Re: elan book
by DannyB II » Yesterday, 22:58

There is a book. I bought the book from Amazon.com. It is a very interesting read. Mary is definitely a inspiration for what someone can do with a life filled with adversity early on. She blossomed into a very compassionate articulate women.
The name of the book, Seeking Love And Acceptance On A Path Of Adversity, By Susan Kelly.

Thank You, Mary for baring a piece of your soul.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.

Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.

Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.

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Re: elan book
by psy, » 3 minutes ago

Eliscu2 wrote:
WTF2 wrote:
This is a book about one girls life in and outside of Elan ,
If you were in Elan in the 70's I would think its a must read! I ordered my book cant wait to read it, WAY TO GO Mary O! THANK YOU!  
seeking love and acceptance on a path of adversity. by ... See MoreSusan Kelly.


THERE WILL BE NO BOOK, IN FACT THERE WILL BE NONE OF YOU LEFT TO TELL ANYTHING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZprVPKi-W6s




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Louis Bardo Bullock - Sandra Bullock gives son Jewish circumcision

Louis Bardo Bullock is the name of Sandra Bullock's newly adopted black son from New Orleans. And as the World swoons over photos of happy mom and son, interesting news from the People Magazine exclusive interview are coming out. One is that Bullock gave son Louis Bardo a Jewish circumcision ceremony with "full on Jewish brit."

The rite of of circumcision is called brit milah and performed on the eighth day of a boy's life, according to ReligiousFacts.com, which reports:

Circumcision is commanded in Genesis 17:10-14 as an outward sign of a man's participation in Israel's covenant with God, as well as a sign that the Jewish people will perpetuate through him. The commandment is incumbent upon both father and child - fathers must see that their sons are circumcised, and uncircumcised grown men are obligated to perform the rite...During the ceremony the child is held by a person designated as the sandek, who is usually a grandparent or family rabbi. An empty chair is set aside to symbolize the presence of the prophet Elijah, who rebuked those who had forsaken the ritual. He now presides over all circumcision ceremonies to ensure the continuation of the ritual...Before the procedure, the infant may be given a couple of drops of wine to ease the pain. The mohel recites benedictions of circumcision, then the father offers the blessing.

What's interesting is that Sandra Bullock, isn't Jewish. Moreover, the mohel came to Bullock's home to perform the ceremony. (No word on the wine used.)

Sandra Bullock calls the private circumcision "the greatest moment I have ever had in my life" in People Magazine. Considering all the pain she's gone through with Jesse James in the cheating scandal, Bullock deserves more great moments.

Congratulations to her.

How many schools has fornits shut down? Zero! Are programs making allot of money? Yes! How many parents pay attention to people on this website? Very little! How much traffic does this website get? Very little! This website is really for people who despise programs that help struggling teens. This is very sad!

This is a great picture!   :rocker:

Lon Woodbury  Loi Eberle  Larry Stednitz  Linda Zimmerman  Judi Bessette  Steve Migden
 
Woodbury Reports, Inc. was founded in November 1989, by Lon Woodbury, MA, IECA, CEP, as an Independent Educational Consulting firm to help parents of teens making poor decisions select a private, parent choice program that would help return the family to normalcy. Lon had worked as the admissions director at the CEDU program, Rocky Mountain Academy, in Bonners Ferry, Idaho, and decided that he could better help parents find the most appropriate placement for their at-risk children if he was independent.

Woodbury Reports has helped hundreds of families over the years. We understand each child is different and has individual needs, strengths, and interests. Through interviews with parents, communication with professionals who know your child well, and then thoroughly researching viable options, we can help parents make the right choices that will help your child get back on the right path.

The mission of Woodbury Reports Inc. is to empower parents by providing the best quality advice possible in helping parents make good decisions regarding their struggling teen.

Woodbury consultants are experienced professionals who come from a variety of disciplines. This allows our consultants to review each placement from a variety of perspectives, thus providing a wide range of input before recommendations are made. Our team is led by Lon Woodbury, the founder of Woodbury Reports, which is the leading newsletter for the nation’s network of Parent Choice Schools and Programs, and Dr. Larry Stednitz, Ph.D., who has well over 40 years as a program administrator and educational consultant. The other members of the team are: Loi Eberle, a masters level educator with 10 years experience as a consultant, Linda Zimmerman who is a nationally recognized specialist in attachment disorders and adoption issues, Judi Bessette who holds a Ed.D. in Educational Leadership and Steve Migden, Ph.D., a licensed and board certified psychologist who is an expert in both learning and emotional/behavioral problems. Dr. Stednitz serves as the team coordinator.

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Posted: Aug 2, 2007
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TEN COMMON MISTAKES PARENTS MAKE - PART II


by: Lon Woodbury



It is said that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. If so, the essay named above has been very flattered. Since its original publication in December 2000, www.strugglingteens.com, there have been three instances we know of where individuals published it word for word claiming their own copyright on it. One even claimed copyright from the 1990s, before that person ever even got into the educational referral business.

Then there was the rash of imitators. There were essays on nine common mistakes, or eleven common mistakes, and even twelve common mistakes. Many of them however, apparently lacking much creativity, used some of the same unique examples and much of the same wording. However, the changes were great enough to avoid copyright infringement charges.

In the meantime, for almost seven years, this essay on our site consistently receives hundreds of visitors a month, and we receive frequent thanks from parents struggling how to make sense of the wide variety of options when considering placement of their child in a residential situation for making very poor and often dangerous decisions. Obviously it has been accepted as one of the most important tools Woodbury Reports, Inc. has developed to help parents make sense out of this industry.

Although when taking another look at this essay I see several changes and/or additions that could be made, I'll resist the temptation, and danger, of trying to improve what has proven successful. For space considerations I'll just summarize the ten points here, and refer the reader to the full original essay for more detail www.strugglingteens.com/parents/tencommonmistakest.html




"We want a place close to home." All parents want the best for their child, and it is far more important to find a place that best fits his/her needs than to emphasize the mere convenience of being close to home.


"We want something affordable." Except when a program has a large endowment or fund raising capabilities, low cost comes from cutting corners. Deciding on a place based on costs runs the risk of entrusting your child to a place with untrained minimum wage staff.


"We want our teen fixed." This view tends to come from looking at the child as an inanimate possession, and discards possible causal influences such as family dynamics, past trauma, or pathology. The child might have the problem, but the solution is likely to come from the whole family.


"That school helped our friend's child." This view seems to think of children with problems as all the same, and are as interchangeable as a mass production item. Each child is unique, their problems are unique, and the solution/intervention is going to be unique.


"A six month placement should do it." Children grow at their own rate, and necessary insights will happen in the child's own time. Setting up arbitrary time limits run the risk of setting up unrealistic expectations on the part of both the child and the parents which can sabotage the placement.


"We are looking for a military school or a boot camp." While a punishment oriented model might work for a child who is age appropriate emotionally, it will frequently backfire for a child with emotional/behavioral problems, and for these children can even be dangerous. This request all too often comes from parents who are angry at their child and want to punish them into submission, an unhealthy impulse.


"We can trust what professionals tell us." First, many people parading as professional in this business have no professional credentials whatsoever and should be avoided. Second, even legitimate professionals have a personal frame of reference or bias, and the parent should accept their advice only when it makes sense to the real authority on any child, his/her parents.


"We don't need to tell the school/professional everything our child has done." When a school or professional is blindsided by less than full disclosure by the parents, the child can be hurt by an inappropriate placement. It can result in something like trying to cure cancer through cold medicine.


"We will save some money by finding a school or program by ourselves without the help of an educational consultant." This is similar to answering charges from a criminal court without the benefit of an attorney who knows the rules, the law and the players. Just because there are some people who parade as educational consultants while accepting finders fees, or seem to be in it just for the money, doesn't mean that a legitimate educational consultant with credentials like membership in a professional organization or a good reputation among quality schools can't save you much grief and money.


"We don't need to get the other parent involved." A child needs to develop whatever relationship he/she can with both parents. That is one of the strongest motivations a child with problems has to heal. Trying to cut one parent out of the placement intervention in most cases just deprives the child and reduces the chances of success.

If you place a child's needs as a priority, balancing it with the parents' needs, common sense will show that all these mistakes are obvious.

Yeah, Fornits is so inconsequential that these idiots have to rush over to do damage control.  Face it, that's the only reason you're here.  We are making a difference, getting the word out and it's obviously had an effect or you wouldn't find it necessary to spam the forum with program propaganda.  :twofinger:

How many schools has fornits shut down?  Zero!  Are programs making allot of money?  Yes!  How many parents pay attention to people on this website?  Very little!  How much traffic does this website get?  Very little!  This website is really for people who despise programs that help struggling teens.  This is very sad!

I am considering sending my daughter to the refuge.I would like to have some feedback from anyone that either has been there or parents that have children there or that were there because I want to make the right decision for my daughter.
Thank you so much in advance for your comments.

You are not a parent, so stop while you're ahead. A vague and short topic was were you went wrong!