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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Beth Update
« on: August 21, 2007, 02:47:43 PM »
Quote from: ""RTP2003""
I know Beth about as well as anybody here does, and I gotta say I don't think it's too cool to make light of or fun of her situation.  She has my sympathy, I just know that she has some issues that I can not help her with.  She suffered through Straight possibly more than most; pain is a relative, subjective thing.  I'm not gonna go off on any tirade here against anybody, but I think it really sucks to make light of another survivor's problems.  I think that many of us misplace trust in one another, possibly 'cause we share the common bond of having 'been there'.  Well, we DO have that common bond, but if that is the only bond that we share, then that in and of itself does not make someone trustworthy.  This goes against what was deeply ingrained in us in Straight's weirdo culture of 'transparency', 'honesty', and rampant snitchery and mindfucks.  I think it's a mistake that is commonly made by survivors, trusting one another a bit more than may be appropriate for the situation.  From what I understand, that is a symptom of PTSD, a condition which runs rampant through the ranks of survivors for reasons that are self-evident to those of us that 'were there'.  Now I'm not saying that you can't trust anyone you meet in Survivorland, on the contrary, there are individuals that I really do feel the "deep and implicit trust" that Miller Newton tried to counterfeit each open meeting.....but individuals like that are few and far between, in and out of Survivorland.    

I really hope Beth is able to resolve whatever issues she is dealing with, and I am sorry to hear of her recent misfortunes with her van and living situation.  I don't think it's cool to make light of her, or any survivor in her condition.   Just because I can not help her with her problems doesn't mean I think it's cool to make fun of her, I think it's kind of mean.  Kicking her when she's down is really cruel.  Coming from someone she knows and trusted, however naive and misplaced that trust was, just goes to show how careful you need to be when you place any kind of trust in anyone.  The simple fact that they are also a Straight survivor is not in and of itself sufficient reason for bestowing this trust.  This seems like an obvious statement to make, but I think it is something survivors need to keep in mind, because of the tendencies some of us have, to place inappropriate trust in each other, a common symptom of PTSD, I'm told by people who read case studies about that type of thing.

So anyway, give the Beth-bashing a rest, will you guys?  As a personal favor to me?  The poor girl's got enough to worry about as it is, there's no need to be mean to her, and it really isn't that funny at all.


Thank you for the post on not just B's behalf, but everyone elses too. Personally, I don't much care for her but I wish her no harm. When I found this place I was foolish enough to believe because we were all there I could somehow find the care and understanding I needed.

Some people I became cool with and others burned me. Lesson learned. I have to stop blindly trusting people and just flat out not trusting people. I think I'm not the only one here who continues to struggle finding a balance.

In all fairness though, she has said and done a lot of BS to people here. Yes, I understand she is "sick", but aren't most of us here to one degree or another? So I can't really be too mad about someone that has been burned by her treating her how she treated him / her.

It's posts like the one started in this thread, hers, the guy who threatens to kill everyone, and vicious attacks from others that just made me stop coming here more than once or twice a year. For those that have thicker skin than me more power to them. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean attacks aren't hurtful.

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Let It Bleed / sex
« on: April 24, 2006, 08:43:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-23 18:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I don't know. I was with soemone for over a decade and the sex was always hot.



Re: Third party. Well, every girl friend I knew who did it always regretted it. The guys I know said it was either not everything cracked up to be OR it ruined their primary relationship because she couldn't get the iamge of him with another woman out of her mind, or he couldn't get the image of her lusting over another man out of his mind. From guys I hear you should never do this with someone you care about--its better if its all casual.



There really is no need to resort to a third party--there's role playing, "special" outfits, toys, nights out of town, games, new sexual positions,music, movies etc. They haven't tried any of these avenues yet.



And then there's just biology.  Sex ONCE in almost two years. Come on! "



That's why you include a couple and not just the chick.

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Let It Bleed / sex
« on: April 24, 2006, 08:41:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-23 09:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I was talking to a few friends last night. We're all in our thirties. One was telling us that she and her husband has had sex once in almost two years. This seems odd to me. They have a great relationship in terms of team parenting, respect, and friendship.... but no sex!! What gives?! He doesn't even try... ever!  We were trying to give her some tips to get the fire restarted.  It's such an important method of connection--I just couldn't imagine. I think she is more open to it than he.



If neither party is cheating, then what would be cause for zero interest in sex? I couldn't imagine existing in a marriage without sex--even a bad one--but men seem to have more immediate needs. Can a guy even survive without it?



I even offered to watch the kids so they can go away and have couple time.



Is sex really that important if two people are mutually indifferent? Or is this indifference always a sign of something bigger?  Or maybe some people are perfectly satisfied with a sexless arrangement as friends in marriage? This, to me, is weird. "


Some Possibilities:

- Low sex drive
- He's gay
- He's cheating
- He's angry at her
- He's no longer attracted to her

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Tacitus' Realm / War on Drugs
« on: April 15, 2006, 02:21:00 PM »
Anyone know of any good sites that can back up that the govt is actually profiting from the "War on Drugs" ?

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Let It Bleed / Stuff you've been listening to
« on: April 09, 2006, 08:01:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-09 09:01:00, Froderik wrote:

"Van Halen- "The Cradle Will Rock"

Aerosmith - "Back in The Saddle"

Ratt - "Round & Round"

Van Halen's 1st album

Bowie- Changes One

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon

Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street"



I think I listened to the same music at a party. :rofl:

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Let It Bleed / Stuff you've been listening to
« on: March 21, 2006, 02:10:00 PM »
Rolling Stones - Let it Bleed

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Let It Bleed / Stuff you've been listening to
« on: March 20, 2006, 12:01:00 AM »
Eagles - Hotel California (the cd) 3 times.

Listened to all sorts of stuff on various radio stations. My hands are gripping the steering wheel so hard that I don't dare look for another cd while on the highway.

Just got home from my mom's house. I made about 50 cds while there so I'll have lots of new stuff to listen to.

Made my stepdad a Hank III and Broadzilla cd.

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Open Free for All / Everything you wanted to know about poop.
« on: March 16, 2006, 06:43:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-15 22:32:00, sorry... try another castle wrote:

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On 2006-03-15 19:27:00, webcrawler wrote:


"What were the results? I actually posted this and was pretty freaked out about the worms. How do you get rid of them? "




What, you've never heard the joke about the lemon cookie?



(Maybe that only works for tapeworms.)
"


No, I haven't heard. Please tell....  :razz:

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Open Free for All / NO SPEEDO'S
« on: March 16, 2006, 06:42:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-15 20:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Web,

I never thought in a million years I would try anal, but it's fun to mix it up a bit. At the right time, with the right person, in the right mood. I knew it was something my boyfriend wanted to try, and one day, when he was really, really good, I decided to give him this gift without him asking for it.  It was fun to know before he knew, ratcheting up the whole anticipation factor and knowing how climatic it would be.  And sometimes, it just plays into the whole total domination/submission fantasy.  I think also, he knew it was one thing I had never done before, and in that sense, he was my "first."  Which was fun for both of us. "


After I heard Dr. Drew talk about how anal sex can ruin the muscles and eventually cause one to not have the ability to hold in bowel movements I pretty much made up my mind I'm not interested.

Last night I learned what "a pink sock" is. I must be getting old. Anyways, I read that a pink sock is having one's butt hole come out after too much anal sex. Ouch.

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Open Free for All / Everything you wanted to know about poop.
« on: March 15, 2006, 10:27:00 PM »
What were the results? I actually posted this and was pretty freaked out about the worms. How do you get rid of them?

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Open Free for All / NO SPEEDO'S
« on: March 15, 2006, 10:25:00 PM »
Heh heh heh I said ouch reading those rammming lyrics.  :rofl:

Why can't ya'll just be satisfied being front loaders? Really I want to know. Is the anus more appealing than the vagina?

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Open Free for All / NO SPEEDO'S
« on: March 15, 2006, 10:08:00 PM »
Ouch.

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Open Free for All / NO SPEEDO'S
« on: March 15, 2006, 04:02:00 PM »
Why is it the well endowed always want to press the anal sex issue?

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Let It Bleed / Stuff you've been listening to
« on: March 15, 2006, 04:00:00 PM »
Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
Sick of It All - Blood, Sweat, & No Tears

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Open Free for All / NO SPEEDO'S
« on: March 14, 2006, 01:29:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-13 21:48:00, sorry... try another castle wrote:

"He does have quite a gut, but it looks like he has a pretty impressive, low-hanging package, too. Probably not something you're interested in, but I am.



Normally, I would be adverse to people not dressing for their body type, but the basket factor outweighs any possible fashion faux pas, IMO.
"



I dunno. I gave him a look and the pic is too small to make a good judgement.

I recently learned men are able to purchase a device to make them look more well endowed. Maybe the guy is faking it.

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