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On 2006-04-29 20:26:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

"Right. Like my first reply to the troll...



Stupid emotional nonsense to try to justify their actions and get attention.



Why are we 10 pages into this trollbait? :roll: "

I don't understand you guys. I'm sure this post will be ripped apart just like all of the previous ones of people who don't entirely agree with you. And I'm sure its not going to be as articulate as some of the posts you all have made. But oh well.

I'm not sure what the exact meaning of a troll is on this site, but from what I gather from other topics I've posted on, its someone from a treatment center coming here to pose as a student or parent or something, just to defend it, or just cuase trouble.

I am sure though, that the meaning does NOT include a long winded, (yes sometimes emotionally confused), treament parent. I'm Mcr84kar86's daughter (and you can check that in the HLA topic, where I post regularly.) The school whose name she didn't want to divulge is HLA (they can't do anything to me, and I'm not worried about it) and there's a good reason she didnt want to divulge the name. We were already threatened by this place's laywers almost 2 years ago because of my posting on this site right after I graduated.

I dont understand. You hold this site as an open forum to express all ideas and hold intellecual (sp?) conversations about the circumstances of treatment... Yet when one person (who yes, trust me, i KNOW is long winded and sometimes not very focused in her arguments, lol I live with her) comes in here, sharing a little bit of a different view, this post reverted to an elementary school playground where all you all could think to do was metaphorically pull her hair and push her around. So congratulations on that, for one.

My mother is not pro-programs. She acknowledges the two programs that DID in fact have a positive influence on my life, New Haven and Walkabout. She is also (like I am) is supportive of whatever programs like HLA have coming to them. And we both hope that it is equivilant to the suffering that every student and parent endured, for whatever length of their stay or connection with the school may have been.

I'm not sure what the point of this is, I know my mother can handle her own battles... I just felt the need to post my frustration with this board for the ignorance and immaturity displayed.

I hope to see more tolerance for people with different perspectives and experiences. This blantent attack on my mother for her shortcomings seems very familiar to the tactics of one certain treatment center. First you debase them as a person, and establish their perspectives to be inaccurate and altogether imbicilic. Then you all have free reign to just simply ignore whatever points she may present. Grow up. All of you.

Gosh... it was like a year ago, I dont really remember exactly the words used, but it was something like we were engaging in inflammitory remarks of the school on a site where future parents posted, and if we didn't stop, our parents would get sued (most all of us were minors at that time). It was a mass letter that went out, because right after the Spring 04 grad happened, we pretty much all stayed in touch with eachother, so we all passed around the location of this site.

June 04. Not too long ago, but from what I hear from more recent grads, things have changed a lot.

Are you serious? You'd like to see this immaturity continue, rather than focus on real topics and meaningful conversations?? Wow sounds all too familiar. About 22 months worth of familiarity.

Restrictions was started at 4:00 pm on weekdays and lasted until 9:30 pm.  On weekends however, it began bright and early at 8:30am and ended at 9:30 pm.

Now, Work assignments WERE only about an hour and a half. They were like Zaps.  (I dont know if I've seen these mentioned here.) Zaps were a punishment that you got for smaller incidents like swearing or not having your uniform shirt tucked in. You reported in front of the school building directly after school and filed into two lines, male/female, and walked around the lake. It took the entire time between school and dinner and was a serious pain in the ass. Work assignments were for something more serious. And there is really no outline for what they could be assigned for. If you pissed off a staff or proved them wrong, or anything, then a work assignment would just show up next to your name on the list in the dorm after school. Staff usually didnt even tell you when they gave them to you, they just let them be a pleasent little surprise. You'd go and join restrictions for an hour and a half or so until dinner, and help them with whatever they were doing.

Thats the only truth I can find in that statement they made, however work assignments are VERY different than restrictions.

Wow, Arnold and Mike are gone? And Bill Gray, and now Clarke Poole? It seems that most of the higher-ups from my time are gone... That is strange.

Anyway. Like Thorazine here, I too was given the MMPI test, and also an IQ test. However the timing was a bit off. It was in April of 2004, when i graduated in June. I found out in the weeks following, that all it was for was to try and convince my parents to keep me post-grad, and keep the cash from my wealthy father flowing, and to keep him baited. I was then involved in a court case (custody) and those results were used to prove to the court that I needed to stay in treatment (this is now me at 17, after I had been in treatment consistantly since i was 14). However all the school reported to the court was that I was "still hiding things."

But sure, thats grounds to keep me another 4 months until I went to college, right? Sounds like it to me.

Sorry, that was me above, obviously.

absolutely. that is the only thing anyone can ever share, is their personal experience and realities. i share on here what my experiences were at HLA and the truths that I derive from those situations. i am not so bold as to think my word is infallible. Just that it is my opinion.