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Open Free for All / Re: Why I Am Not Buying Danny Bennison's Lies
« on: February 09, 2012, 04:30:02 AM »
Danny says he never threatened anyone??

 :roflmao:  :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

You threatened me you lying sack of shit!  Still talking your bullshit, I see. What a fucking loser you are. Got to a meeting and apply your 5th step you fucking waste of flesh. Still proud of dragging that poor kid behind a van?

Wayne....still reading your book. Nicely done. Honestly. Very nice!

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Brian Dodd is a jackass
« on: September 05, 2011, 10:13:35 AM »
:roflmao: sue for what? LOL  :beat:

Quote from: "Whooter"
Great find, Guys.  What a fantastic exposure for kids at risk.  She really sounds like and independent self starter and great role model for those children.

Whenever he starts out with...."Great find...." ya just KNOW it's all bullshit.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :twofinger:  :fuckoff:  :notworthy:

It's about fucking time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :cheers:  :cheers:  :nods:  :birthday:  :notworthy:  :twofinger:  :fuckoff:  :twofinger:  :fuckoff:  :rocker:  :rocker:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :cheers:  :seg:  :seg2:

Awwww, where's DannyB to defend this piece of shit??  :roflmao:  This was his guy!  His mentor, his guru.  Who he wanted to be, IMO.  

New Warrior Men!!!!

Shitbag gave the families $5k.  1/2 of what they paid to die and a fraction of what he's made off of these vulnerable people seeking real spiritual advice.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Fornits Comes Back to Life!
« on: June 24, 2011, 12:53:35 AM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Do you guys have an ignore feature?

Don't think so.  Just don't respond.  He's good at talking in circles.

Edited to add:  He has several aliases as well, usually.  I'm sure people will let you know, or more than likely you'll be able to pick it up yourself.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Fornits Comes Back to Life!
« on: June 24, 2011, 12:01:43 AM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Is this the Whooter you guys banned or someone equally obnoxious pretending to be him?

Seems to be him.  He cannot help himself.  I truly believe it's become a sickness for him.  He absolutely MUST have the last word.  Then there's the sheer enjoyment he gets out of trying to get a rise out of everyone and poking at them - most of whom were truly, and some irreparably harmed by these places.  It's how he gets his rocks off.  Best to ignore him.  That's what really gets to him.  He seems to need the attention.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: [email protected]
« on: June 23, 2011, 11:56:07 PM »
I wish I could find a picture of Feodor Chaliapin, Jr. as "old man" in Moonstruck when he's sitting at the table, tearing up and Pop (Vincent Gardenia) asks what's wrong.  He sniffles and says, "I'm so confused".  If anyone can find that particular picture, I'd love it!


Anyway........I'm so confused!   :seg:

Let's talk about the weather... / Re: Israel and the weather -
« on: June 23, 2011, 11:36:11 PM »
Quote from: "BuzzKill"
Once more I will bring up a common debate in Christian circles: Are weather events ever related to God's judgment on a nation.


Buzz, I really do like you despite some your, ummmm "odd" beliefs, but come on!  Really??

This is why Xtians seem to fear "intellectualism" so much.  It directly contradicts their version of reality, i.e. Jesus rode the dinosaurs.  Absolutely astounding and frightening!  

My gawd people??  Sometimes you can't tell the Moooslims from the fanatical Xtians!  So much blood, so many lives lost over who's "god" is better or real.  Adult. Fairy. Tales.

Sorry Buzz.....I really do like you.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Fornits Comes Back to Life!
« on: June 23, 2011, 11:28:11 PM »
Quote from: "Wh??ter"
Just another example of how when I post here discussions get going and people participate.  When I sit back and just watch the traffic on this cite goes to zero.  People like none-ya and Shadyacres don't even post unless they are arguing with me.  When I'm not here they run away like Anne Bonney, Bruce and DJ did.  lol
ou sup

Oh, don't flatter yourself.  Some of have lives to attend to.  (For the others.....Went to Hawaii and did the Regata del Sol al Sol again this year.  Even sailed it for the first time!)

You're addicted to this.  You enjoy poking at people, which is why you support these shitholes.

Tacitus' Realm / Re: In support of Obama -
« on: June 23, 2011, 11:16:39 PM »
Quote from: "BuzzKill"
I'm very serious.

Find me a tape of a crowd of people (or even a hand full) in tears at the site of Dubya, (or any conservative leader) speaking of thrills coursing along their body parts when he speaks, singing worshipful songs of praise to him, using Messianic titles to reference him and lifting up prayer to him, and I might think you have a point.

Well that was easy.  I bring you the Bush Youth, unedited version and one of the scariest things I have ever seen....


Fun Fact:  the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge wasn't even added until 1954, under pressure from The Knights of Columbus (see below).  It was not there in the original version, so no one is trying to "remove God" from the Pledge.  Merely trying to restore it to as it was written and intended, by a dirty socialist by the way (see below).

Now, the admittedly slightly audio edited but (I maintain a more accurate depiction) here...


That was a snippet.  There was MUCH more.

Quote from: "BuzzKill"
Colter is not one of my favorite commentators. I don't have the low opinion you do, but she is not a favorite. I have never before read anything she wrote. I wanted to read this one because of the history she was said to have included and how well research it was said to be. All true enough; She did make a number of very valid and interesting points. I simply don't enjoy her snarky sniping. I think it is more degrading to the overall message than in any way clever or witty.  There is another book of similar theme I liked much better. It has a more scholarly tone with enough true wit to make it an enjoyable read: Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning by Jonah Goldberg

ugghhh.........Jonah Goldberg.  You're right, he's not the attention whore that Coulter is, but he's just as off base in his assertions.  And playing on the same fears.


Emphasis and red comments, mine.

The Pledge of Allegiance
A Short History
by Dr. John W. Baer

Copyright 1992 by Dr. John W. Baer

Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897).

Francis Bellamy in his sermons and lectures and Edward Bellamy in his novels and articles described in detail how the middle class could create a planned economy with political, social and economic equality for all. The government would run a peace time economy similar to our present military industrial complex.

The Pledge was published in the September 8th issue of The Youth's Companion, the leading family magazine and the Reader's Digest of its day. Its owner and editor, Daniel Ford, had hired Francis in 1891 as his assistant when Francis was pressured into leaving his baptist church in Boston because of his socialist sermons. As a member of his congregation, Ford had enjoyed Francis's sermons. Ford later founded the liberal and often controversial Ford Hall Forum, located in downtown Boston.

In 1892 Francis Bellamy was also a chairman of a committee of state superintendents of education in the National Education Association. As its chairman, he prepared the program for the public schools' quadricentennial celebration for Columbus Day in 1892. He structured this public school program around a flag raising ceremony and a flag salute - his 'Pledge of Allegiance.'

His original Pledge read as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.' He considered placing the word, 'equality,' in his Pledge, but knew that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.  (the horror!!) [ * 'to' added in October, 1892. ]

Dr. Mortimer Adler, American philosopher and last living founder of the Great Books program at Saint John's College, has analyzed these ideas in his book, The Six Great Ideas. He argues that the three great ideas of the American political tradition are 'equality, liberty and justice for all.' 'Justice' mediates between the often conflicting goals of 'liberty' and 'equality.'

In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was ignored.

In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer.   (A no-no according to the Constitution)

Bellamy's granddaughter said he also would have resented this second change. He had been pressured into leaving his church in 1891 because of his socialist sermons. In his retirement in Florida, he stopped attending church because he disliked the racial bigotry he found there.

What follows is Bellamy's own account of some of the thoughts that went through his mind in August, 1892, as he picked the words of his Pledge:

    "It began as an intensive communing with salient points of our national history, from the Declaration of Independence onwards; with the makings of the Constitution...with the meaning of the Civil War; with the aspiration of the people...

    The true reason for allegiance to the Flag is the 'republic for which it stands.' ...And what does that vast thing, the Republic mean? It is the concise political word for the Nation - the One Nation which the Civil War was fought to prove. To make that One Nation idea clear, we must specify that it is indivisible, as Webster and Lincoln used to repeat in their great speeches. And its future?

    Just here arose the temptation of the historic slogan of the French Revolution which meant so much to Jefferson and his friends, 'Liberty, equality, fraternity.' No, that would be too fanciful  (or in current terms too much "intellectialism", which really confounds me.  Why is intelligence seen as something to be feared and derided now?  Could it be that the more education and intelligence one gains, the more they see that the Emperor has no clothes?), too many thousands of years off in realization. But we as a nation do stand square on the doctrine of liberty and justice for all...

If the Pledge's historical pattern repeats, its words will be modified during this decade. Below are two possible changes.

Some prolife advocates recite the following slightly revised Pledge: 'I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, born and unborn.'

A few liberals recite a slightly revised version of Bellamy's original Pledge: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with equality, liberty and justice for all.'

Tacitus' Realm / Re: In support of Obama -
« on: June 23, 2011, 06:52:21 PM »
Quote from: "BuzzKill"

I recently read Ann Colters newest book

There's your first mistake.  She's nothing but a fading attention whore who exists entirely to fan the flames of true believers, such as yourself (NOT meant in a derogatory sense - at all!)  It's disgusting that she preys on the fears of good people, such as yourself.  Stop listening to or reading her.

Democrats like to create god-like personas for their political leaders and often use worshipful language in describing them and will become enraged at moderate and fully truthful criticism of them. You simply don't see anything like this from the right.

Sorry, but................................BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!!!!

[deep breath]


Surely you can't be serious!!!

Projection is a wonderful thing.

***edited to add:  I'm not saying that there isn't valid criticism of Obama because there sure as hell is,

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Many Thanks!!!
« on: June 23, 2011, 06:46:45 PM »
Quote from: "Withdraw"
I failed myself and all of you for not coming. I am sorry, because I hold a pertinent part of the story that is uniquely my own. A part which no one else can tell. A part that will be completely missing from the movie. For this, I am sorry. I wish I could change it.

You all have more courage than I. I wish I didn't let my own fear get in the way of truth.

Please don't do that to yourself!  You failed no one.  We all do what we can, when we can.  I was interviewed but couldn't bring myself to go to the re-enactment or any of the other stuff.  I just couldn't.  

You've been an invaluable asset here, both on the boards and behind the scenes.  Srsly.   :nods:

And Alex, Kelly et guys fucking ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :rocker:  :jamin:  :cheers:  :rasta:  :notworthy:  :notworthy:


Sweat Lodge "guru" convicted on 3 counts!!!!!!

Looks like it didn't take the jury long either.  They started deliberations on Tuesday, came back with the guilty verdicts Wednesday.  Of course, like Miller Newton, nothing seems to stop these malignant narcissists.  Wait til you get to the last sentence.  



CAMP VERDE, Ariz. — A self-help author who led a deadly sweat lodge ceremony in Arizona was found guilty of three counts of negligent homicide Wednesday.

Jurors in the case against James Arthur Ray began deliberating Tuesday after a four-month trial.

Ray showed no reaction as the verdict was read. His parents and brother sat behind him, while victims' family members and friends held hands and looked on from across the courtroom.

Prosecutors asked that Ray be taken into custody immediately, but the judge denied the request.

More than 50 people participated in the October 2009 sweat lodge that was meant to be the highlight of Ray's five-day "Spiritual Warrior" seminar near Sedona.

Three people died following the sauna-like ceremony meant to provide spiritual cleansing. Eighteen were hospitalized, while several others were given water to cool down at the scene. Prosecutors and defense attorneys disagreed over whether the deaths and illnesses were caused by heat or toxins.

Ray's attorneys have maintained the deaths were a tragic accident. Prosecutors argued Ray recklessly caused the fatalities.

Ray used the sweat lodge as a way for participants to break through whatever was holding them back in life. He warned participants in a recording of the event played during the trial that the sweat lodge would be "hellacious" and that participants were guaranteed to feel like they were dying but would do so only metaphorically.

"The true spiritual warrior has conquered death and therefore has no fear or enemies in this lifetime or the next, because the greatest fear you'll ever experience is the fear of what? Death," Ray said in the recording. "You will have to get a point to where you surrender and it's OK to die."

Witnesses have described the scene following the two-hour ceremony as alarming and chaotic, with people dragging "lifeless" and "barely breathing" participants outside and volunteers performing CPR.

Two participants — Kirby Brown, 38, of Westtown, N.Y., and James Shore, 40, of Milwaukee — died upon arrival at a hospital. Liz Neuman, 49, of Prior Lake, Minn., slipped into a coma and died more than a week later at a Flagstaff hospital.

In court Wednesday, members of Neuman's family and a friend of Brown held hands while the verdict was read.

Ray's attorneys maintained the deaths were nothing but a tragic accident, and said Ray took all the necessary precautions to ensure participants' safety. They contend authorities botched the investigation and failed to consider that toxins or poisons contributed to the deaths and called two witnesses to support that argument.

Prosecutors relied heavily on Ray's own words to try to convince the jury that he was responsible for the deaths. They said a reasonable person would have stopped the "abomination of a sweat lodge" when participants began exhibiting signs of distress about halfway through the ceremony.

Sweat lodges typically are used by American Indians to rid the body of toxins by pouring water over heated rocks in the structure.

Ray became a self-help superstar by using his charismatic personality and convincing people his words would lead them to spiritual and financial wealth. He used free talks to recruit people to expensive seminars like the Sedona retreat that led to the sweat lodge tragedy. Participants paid up to $10,000 for the five-day program intended to push people beyond their physical and emotional limits.

Ray's popularity soared after appearing in the 2006 Rhonda Byrne documentary "The Secret," and Ray promoted it on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" and "Larry King Live."

But his multimillion-dollar self-help empire was thrown into turmoil with the sweat lodge deaths. Ray ended his seminars shortly after but has continued to offer advice throughout his trial via the Internet and social networking sites.

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