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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 05, 2005, 03:17:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-05 12:08:00, GregFL wrote:

"figure it out yourself. The clues are all over the place.





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You know Greg, I don't know how to say this nicely, so I will just say it. You are a snide little dipshit that tries to use "humor" to degrade people. You aren't funny, and rarely if ever do you make any point worth repeating.

Droll on.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Dear Art,
« on: October 05, 2005, 03:11:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-05 10:43:00, GregFL wrote:

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On 2005-10-05 10:20:00, Anonymous wrote:



"He's not half Jewish. "




But was he an atheist?  I seem to remember him being one, but I am not sure.



Of course, I know he believed in a higher power, but I always thought he felt that he was it.



 :grin:



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I heard he got an Honorary Doctorate in Atheism from The Atheism Institute of Metropolitan Fort Lauderdale, Florida University College

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 05, 2005, 02:56:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-05 11:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Just can't help yourself can you Thom?  Have you noticed that most people get along well here, no matter what side of the issue they are on, except maybe a couple of insulting anons and well, you?



Ever wonder why that is?



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Not really, why?

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Dear Art,
« on: October 05, 2005, 02:43:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-05 08:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"James, the brother of Jesus, told me to post this in the wrong thread.  LIAR.





Dear Art,



Thanks for convincing my parents physchologists were all "full of shit" and warehousing me for all that time while people poked at me and screamed in my face and denied me basic human dignity like toilet privelidges. It really helped me get in touch with other people living inside my brain and identify the voices.



I am now medicated and institutionalized, but I recite the 3 signs to my invisible friend every day, then we go seven stepping around the courtyard with Jesus and Hitler.



Your the best!



And thanks to Mussolini for showing me the right thread!  

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...is he there too?

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Dear Art,
« on: October 05, 2005, 02:41:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-05 08:47:00, Antigen wrote:

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On 2005-10-04 21:55:00, Thom wrote:


I do recognise you as a fellow human being, living out God's will for your life to the best of your ability, and I thank you for your willingness to do so.




 :rofl: Thom, accusing Art of living out God's will is like wishing the Program on me. Are you even vaguely aware of how often and lightly you offend people?

Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author


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Yes, Ginger, I am vaguely aware of how often and lightly I offend people. I think Art can handle it. People have hurled harsher comments at him.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 05, 2005, 02:23:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-05 11:02:00, GregFL wrote:

"You know Thom, I don't know how to say this nicely, so I will just say it.  You are a snide little dipshit that tries to use "humor" to degrade people.  You aren't funny, and rarely if ever do you make any point worth repeating.



Droll on.


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Newflash for you. That controntational in your face, attack the messenger, insult and degrade people you don't agree with - style of communication was anti-social and inappropriate then as well as now. It only works in the confines of a closed system where the people have been conditioned to believe that it is normal and productive when in fact it is not.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 05, 2005, 01:56:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-05 07:44:00, SummerOf72 wrote:

"Thom,



Great effort to disguise lack of insight and capacity to take personal responsibility in your life with juvenile attempts at ridicule.



Thats cool if it works for you!



Upward and onward :smile:"

Thanks for the encouragement! Wow, all that and I thought I was only doing a fair Greg Warbis impersonation (I don't have all the lingo down, so had to use a lot of filler words). Does Krishna have any books on the importance of incorporating humor into one's life? If so, I would recommend placing them on the 'next read' list.

onward and upward  :smile:

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 05, 2005, 07:39:00 AM »
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On 2005-10-05 04:33:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hungry but too much cholesterol in your diet?



Try eggbeaters anonymous.  I hear their success rate is up to .001%.



A marked improvement!





 :smile:

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Dear Art,
« on: October 05, 2005, 12:55:00 AM »
Hi Art and Shelly,

   I just wanted to let you know I really appreciate your having started, and poured over 30 years of your life into The Seed. I was the 'other' Thom in "The New Crusty Nostrils" group of around '74-'76 or so. That was a very special time for me. When you asked us to go to Cleveland and sing, it was both an honor and an adventure.

It was cool walking into the room up there, and feeling instantly at home. I have enjoyed that feeling many times over the years as I've visited different AA, NA and GA rooms around the country. I got side-tracked for a few years, predictably, right after leaving The Seed, but am doing very well these days.

Thanks for showing me that I had potential in this world, and for offering a glimpse of what a straight / sober life can be. I also blame you for my love of Jazz. That day you took a bunch of us to your house to hear your stereo playing some of your Big Band collection was a true mind expanding experience for me musically.

Many fond memories, and morsels of wisdom will stay with me always, i hope. The concept of sober humor was first introduced to me by you. The delayed-reaction in putting these things into action was my bad. I thank God for you and your vision and determination and willingness to share it all with us punks.  :wink: .

I remember you saying that if the net result of the efforts of the Seed was that ONE kid was spared a life of misery, it would all have been worth it. (or words to that effect) I thought it was a fatalistic attitude at the time, but it makes perfect sense now.

Some of the former Seedlings I'm in touch with these days still harbor bitterness over perceived mistreatment under your care.

Although I don't totally agree with some of your treatment methods during those early years, I hear improvements were made. It was a work in progress. I do recognise you as a fellow human being, living out God's will for your life to the best of your ability, and I thank you for your willingness to do so. I'm sober about 14 years now, and life is good. Thanks for the good foundational work!

Sincerely, Thom McNulty

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 05, 2005, 12:11:00 AM »
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On 2005-10-04 17:30:00, GregFL wrote:

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On 2005-10-04 15:13:00, Thom wrote:


"let me handle this one, guys Blah, Blah, typicalseedlingresponse Blah, stepcraft Yadda, Yadda, crystal ball Yadda, Blah, Blah, how do you know you would be deadinsainorinjail? Blah, Yadda, baggage smaggage Yadda, Yadda, Blah, you were never addicted to start with! Blah, Blah, Yadda,  art Barker nazi Yadda, Koreanmindcontrol Yadda, Blah, brainwashed Blah, Blah, brainwashed Yadda, torture young children Yadda, Yadda, wooden chairs 12 hours! Blah, Blah, define success! Blah, Yadda, Yadda, Yadda thankyousomuchforposting openforum Blah, Blah, Blah, yourexperienceisasvalidasours Yadda, Yadda, Yadda  :rofl:  :grin: "

So, you don't think I could be helped by Overheaters Anonymous? ...Oh well, at least you saved me a phone call. Thanks!

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 04, 2005, 11:58:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-04 19:54:00, ChrisL wrote:

""you know Thom, you can 12 step your anger management problems as well.

Problem is, you get about the same percentage of success...zero."



Between the 2nd & 3rd year of my sobreity I found myself extremely angry, never really figured out why... just was. On the encouragement of my now x-wife I went to a BCSW & a Psychiatrist for about a year. I remember they both told me in different ways to move on, I did not want to hear it then, but I do remember I felt better... and then it seemed like in the 4th & 5th year I came to accept things as they were nothing more nothing less just what they were. It took me another 9 years to finally begin to make some changes & a Hurricane helped expidite the process alot...



But you know what? I am not angry, just thankful like we used to say, "every day above ground is a good day" & "I'd rather wake up with bad breath than no breath" anytime...

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How about "why we sing Jingle Bells...because every day you're straight, it's like Christmas!!!" Hi Chris, wow, it seems like we were on about the same schedule there. Most of mine was over a divorce. It was right at 5 years to really accept it, and reach the point where I could honestly say I had moved on. I remember when in '91 an AA buddy suggested that it might take that long, and thinking there was no way I could survive that long with this pain! What I had no concept of back then was the fact that pain / anger diminish over time. (I wanted to be over it NOW!!)

Time is a healer. Not time alone, spiritual growth was crucial, but there was no short-cutting the time element.  Just having the hope of one day being free of it helped too. The old 'praying for those you harbor resentment toward' method really works!

Then I was ready to be open to the idea of another relationship. This time, I chose to let God bring my bride to me. My wife and I celebrated our 5th anniversary this year. She is a treasure. Please don't buy into Greg's diagnosis of me. He is only trying to stir up another hate debate  :smile:

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 04, 2005, 07:04:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-04 15:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I think I will close the shop early tonight and go home to that good pie."

Hey, who can blame you?

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 04, 2005, 06:20:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-04 15:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

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Say what??????????? :???:  :???:  :???:  :???: "

OK, so I'm not as experienced as some. I had to use a lot of filler words. I'll get the hang of it!

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The Seed Discussion Forum / The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
« on: October 04, 2005, 06:13:00 PM »
let me handle this one, guys Blah, Blah, typicalseedlingresponse Blah, stepcraft Yadda, Yadda, crystal ball Yadda, Blah, Blah, how do you know you would be deadinsainorinjail? Blah, Yadda, baggage smaggage Yadda, Yadda, Blah, you were never addicted to start with! Blah, Blah, Yadda,  art Barker nazi Yadda, Koreanmindcontrol Yadda, Blah, brainwashed Blah, Blah, brainwashed Yadda, torture young children Yadda, Yadda, wooden chairs 12 hours! Blah, Blah, define success! Blah, Yadda, Yadda, Yadda thankyousomuchforposting openforum Blah, Blah, Blah, yourexperienceisasvalidasours Yadda, Yadda, Yadda  :rofl:  :roll:

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Another note to John Underwood
« on: September 29, 2005, 10:38:00 PM »
All those thousands that weren't druggies?
Name 10.
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On 2005-09-29 16:22:00, Antigen wrote:

"Well, I can name 4, Mcnultys all. Then there was our neighbor, Mike and our other neighbor, Pam.


Totally false, Ginger.
A druggie is a person who uses (illicit) drugs.
I know all the people you are refering to, and have used drugs with all of them (but not in a while:). If my math is right, I'm even one of them. I was never coerced into admitting I was a druggie by anyone. I admitted it of my own free will.

An addict is a person who can no longer claim to be a recreational drug user because they can't stop, or could not stop without help.


I, Thom McNulty (on behalf of myself), who used to be a druggie (used illicit drugs) a long time ago, and freely admitted it while at The Seed, do hereby revoke my (his/her) status as a member of the Fornits Cult. Further, I demand that any and all persons who publicly proclaim a given number of 'Fornits Cult Members',  henceforth reduce said number by one.
 
I do this of my own free will for the following reason(s): I/he/she don't wish to submit myself to the false teachings and abusive behavior of the Fornits Cult any longer.

Although I've enjoyed catching up on fond memories of my time at The Seed with a few posters here, I feel I have contributed all my experiences from The Seed.
(This stuff happened 30 years ago, for crying out loud! GET A LIFE!)

I am a truthful person, and have had enough of being accused of lying by Ginger, Greg and Anon. I have nothing I need to prove to anyone, and reading some of this crap is an annoying waste my valuable time. See ya!
 ( ::bangin::  ::ftard::  ::dove::

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