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On 2004-08-23 20:55:00, JNAILZ wrote:

"Is that a real conversation? Marty was there in the early 90's when I was there. He commuted from Peabody mass., or so he said. He was there every weekday and even came to our basketball games. If he didnt work there why was he there everyday for my two years. I have no recolection of him being abusive or mean during my time, he actually seemed like a pretty good guy. I cannot speak for what happened before or after, but he was always good to me. But if that is a real conversation I wonder what he is hidding, and everyone else whould too."

Well for one he lied about the Skakel case. And back in the 70's and 80's he was a very abusive little bastard and dished out some very cruel and unusual punishment.

What's funny is someone wrote on this site that Marty is a butler for the Ricci family. Well it almost seemed that way to me, he followed Joe around and obeyed Joe's every command, he probably even wiped Joe Ricci's ass for him.

Luckily for you Marty decided not to fuck with you, he fucked with alot of peeps in my time and enjoyed seeing them pay for their alleged wrong actions.

On 2003-12-11 13:47:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2003-11-19 10:26:00, Marc RosenBlow wrote:


"Hello elan school how may i direct your call?





Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik





Who shall I say is calling





John Richards from trouble teen magizine





Please hold while I direct your call





Marty answers:





Hello this is Martin can I help you?





Yes marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's thearupitic?





And who may I ask is calling?





This is John Richards from trouble teen magizine





There is a magizine that is actaully for troubled teens available to the public?





Yes





What do you publish in this magizine John?





Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered theaputic?





If you are refereing to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recolition of it.





So you are denying this ever took place?





I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occured a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time.





How long have you worked at elan Martin?





I have been here for around 9 years.





Oh really, then why is it there are alot of other people out there that say different?





And whom are you refering to John?





I'm sorry Martin, but tha is priveleged information.





Priveleged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also priveledge information.





Well Martin, did I at any time metion of request former students names? I don't think so.





Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions?





Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cromies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads?





Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you.





Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to littel girl's head's.





Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past.





So you are not denying it now Marty?





No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner.





Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone call's or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without havin to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era.





I dont know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain.





Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magizine.





Okay John.





Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you?





If you are refering to some of those anti-elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that hold's grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight.





Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct?





John, when you are part of a school that focusses on teens that are emtional disturbed inviduals. heavy thearopy is needed to help those peple out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsucessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebeling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school.





Oh so you brainwash teens in other words?





If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives.





Marty, you mentioned that there are alot of people that have went through your program and were unsucessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate?





John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth stastic's with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's adminisrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions.





I didn't call you Martin to discuss stastic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read alot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding  mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan.





I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment?





Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994.





Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John.





Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurreed way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's.





John I went through the elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long.





Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin?





Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens?





Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ?





It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's.





Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerened about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty?





Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magizine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and insititution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John.





Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be alot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today.





Ok John you have a nice day......











Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at elan since the early 70's.








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That is too funny man!!!You really talked to him?Marty was the brains behind all the abuse learning experiences that were enforced.HE use to sit in his office all day thinking up new cruel punishments for the kids."

Wow that was too funny, I can visualize Marty sweating alot and shaking while those questions being asked.
Marty is lying, he was there in 87, I can vouch for that.

Thank you SYN.,Actually I have read alot of his post's and they are really funny, the ones where he bashes and cuts on all the staff members. :lol: That shit is funny as hell.

I have been to his message board and he really doesnt have any funny shit up there, looks like he invested alot of time over here.[ This Message was edited by: By Demons Be Driven on 2004-08-22 08:23 ]

What time frame were you in elan and what house?

LOL its Syn who is flooding this site. :lol:

Nice try Syn, but your guess is way off, though I do share some of the same thoughts as Nazi had, we both dislike Jamie Eisman.

I guess you are believeing I am Nazi because of the ip location that I am using. I'll save you the hassel of the search. My ip says Jersey City NJ, Nazi is not from NJ FYI he is from NY, how do I know this, because I went to Elan with him and know him. I also have been to his nice big spread he owns in upstate NY hunting with him a few times.

Also Nazi surfs the web using a floating ip, which basically shows up anywhere you choose it too. "Real nice software program he has, I've seen it in action".

Nazi always expresses lots of racial content in his post's, I don't.

So I guess if I have  or anybody else has a NJ ip address and post's on this board we are all Nazis?

I also guess that all of the students that went through Elan, 11 of them from NJ are all Nazi as well? BTY 11 is an estimated guess from other elan sites that have regestries.

I also would have to guess in the forum you posted last night  "Guess who is flooding this forum" you are refering to me? Because I made alot of post's. Big fuckin deal, if you don't want someone posting as much as I did then why not delete all the archives? I was responding to some old archives that are made available to the public. "Dumbass"

Syn you obviosly have no clue how to obtain information on ip addresses, all you can do is see numbers and think you are God becuase of it, or was it Supreme overlord? :nworthy:  

My advice to you is go to a seminar and take a coarse on understanding a computer and software and how it works, because you seem lack skills in that area.

On 2002-12-12 04:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"He was never accepted by the tribe because his mama was a kike.Besides from being a short ugly looking man,Martin kruglik has had the worst luck in scoring with a feamle.He had no choice but to abduct,fuck,rape and pilege small children.



Marty Kruglik has a fecal fetish as well as a lust for small children.Yes it is true, Martin Kruglik plays with his shit and others.When Marty was a little boy he put his mama through hell when it came time to do his laundry.



See no other neighborhood kids would want to play with Marty so he isolated himself from the rest of society.He would frequent johnny-on-the-spots and would play in them for countless hours.His clothes would be stained in blue and fecal matter and his mama hated it because she could never get out the stains when she did the wash.



Rumor has it that Marty at a young age saw professinal help about his desires to play with shit but they could never figure it out.After  numerous visits he was diagnosed as having a "Fecal Fetish".The doctors didnt seem all that concern about it as long as Marty wasnt eating it.Marty never ate the shit, he would smear it all over himself and get off on it.

Marty's face looks like a peice of shit,thats why he smeared himself in it.



I hope this information has been a little more helpful on understanding what Marty is,after reading this I'm sure all of you can see why now his tribe rejected him.And ofcoarse there will be some of you out there that wont belive this.My advice to you people that dont beleive,"GO FUCK YOURSELF AND DIE"."

OMG LOL..