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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: ticked on July 28, 2007, 11:38:29 AM
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Anyone have experience with this facility? Doesn't seem to have anyone from the gov't watching what they are doing there.
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As far as I know, Canada has absolutely no oversight of RTCs, TBSs or rehab centres. The rehab/cult I was in is located in Alberta (Kids of the Canadian West / Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre) and was the only one I knew of in Canada (except Teen Challenge) till now.
However, just by looking at some of the stuff online, I'd have loved to be there instead of AARC. Able to eat healthy food, take classes w/ registered Ontario teachers, go outside... I'm sure it's not all that great, but it looks like heaven compared to where I was.
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Perhaps the problem in Canada is that it is still a new industry. This raises the question in my mind of whether it is better to try and shut it down all together or to lobby for enforceable regulation. Given that it is still so new & small, it is possibly more pragmatic to lobby to shut it down. Particularly considering that Struggling teens mentioned this Rocklyn Academy had a lot of American girls whose parents are too cheap to pay American dollars
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Anyone else have experience with this "emotional growth school"? Heads up on this one-so many red flags, very sketchy. Its been growing over the last few years, and attempting to open a 2nd facility. In the meantime they are cramming beds anywhere they can fit them. Accounting practices are creative to say the least. Therapy is added on at very high cost, on top of tuition. They don't spell this out.
There have been quite a few girls from the US sent there. Definitely not the place for a child with mental health issues. They seem to have a reciprocal agreement going with wilderness placements in Utah..alot of girls get sent to wilderness before they are sent back or to other US facilities such as Island View.
Monitoring phone calls, reading mail etc is typical. Most parents have no clue what is really going on there.There is no liscencing or overview by the gov't. The Ministry of Education assigns credits, but it does not in any way oversee the quality of those courses or teaching staff. Its a level system, and not uncommon to make it close to the top and be knocked back down to incoming. Contact with parents is very restricted.
Ticked, I see you posted this in the NewInfo forum.
It is odd to see a genuine "emotional growth" boarding school in Canada, but I guess it's here...
Anyway, do you have any personal connection to this place? We are working on bringing the issue of facilities like AARC and Rocklyn to the attention of the Canadian public and government. So any info is appreciated. Feel free to PM me.
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yes, i am a parent. Rocklyn is definitely not the abuse/torture experienced by students at other facilities. There are however, many red flags-and i was horried by some things going on there, and i have no doubt students are at risk in that environment. The website makes it look like an exclusive girl's school-it is not.
The ministry does not oversee the credentials of the teachers or the quality of those credits. Very few, if any of the teachers are certified. In fact, there seem to be a lack of proper credential overall. They admit everyone from kids with major drug issues, sexuality issues, psychotic, eating disordered and no medical supervision. Very scary the numbers packed off to Utah wilderness when they don't buy in and conform. Really the authorities need to know there are kids there.
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Rachael-Do you know if the gov't places ANy regulations on these type of schools? There seems to be no one overseeing safety or ensuring students are advised of their rights. There are 2 more programs that have opened in Ontario-Pine River Institute which seems to at least have real medical supervision, but who knows. And there is another school for behavioural issues called Pinehurst School. Who's accountable? The money these places charge is astronomical. At Rocklyn at least, the services provided did not justify what they were charging. It all looks good on the website. What you see is not what you get in that case.
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Hmm. Background, experience, certification, and degrees (if any) of staff are notably absent from info on the website.
These people really do believe in controlling each and every aspect of these girls' lives! Holy canoli!! Take a look at the subsections of the Student Guide, e.g., 'Procedures & Consequences':
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... edures.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_procedures.htm)
Student Guide | Procedures & Consequences
Parents and students of Rocklyn Academy will have an expanded form of each of these titles:
Effective June 17, 2007 -- subject to change if needed/required.
1. Academic Dinner Out
2. Alarm Tampering
3. Anger Management -- minimum of 15 minutes
4. AWOL -- Away Without Leave
5. Big Screen TV
6. Breakfast
7. Bug -Talk e.g. drugs, sex, violence, crime, alcohol, cigarettes, piercing, etc
8. Bullying -- Covert or Overt Bullying, Verbal Aggression, Threats
9. Cell Phones etc.
10. Check-Ins with Residential Supervisor
11. Contributions
12. Cutting, Scratching or Purging, Binging, Restricting, etc.
13. Damage of Property
14. Damaging or Defacing Uniform
15. Defiance
16. Doctor and Dentist appointments
17. Emails
18. Extra Study
19. Gum/Candies/Chocolate/Salt/Food etc.
20. Inappropriate Behaviour -- bed sharing, kissing, etc.
21. Jewellery, clothes, and nail polish - Unauthorized
22. Laptops
23. Late for class, hall, assemblies, bus, events, meds etc.
24. Leaves
25. Library
26. Lying
27. Meal times
28. Movie Night
29. Music, CDs or DVDs etc. -- listened to with headphones
30. Night-Time Routine -- out of room or disruptive after lights out
31. Non-Participation - Individual Therapy, Group and House Meetings, Organized Activities
32. Outings
33. Phone Calls
34. Physical Aggression
35. Piercing, tattoos, branding, choking game -- except 2 pierces in each earlobe
36. Possession of alcohol, drugs or related paraphernalia
37. Possession of cigarettes, matches, and other smoking paraphernalia
38. Private Washroom
39. Searches
40. Sick Day
41. Sick Day -- Inauthentic
42. Staff Disrespect
43. Study Hall
44. Suspended Privileges
45. Suspended Privileges -- Infraction
46. Swearing
47. Theft
48. Tuck
49. Untidy Room
50. Walks
51. Weekend Leaves for Prefects and Head Girls
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The vernacular it uses is very similar to that of an Australian or British normal private girls school. Does anyone know who owns it?
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The vernacular it uses is very similar to that of an Australian or British normal private girls school. Does anyone know who owns it?
From what we can tell Bob Shaw and Dale Stohn.
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Hmm. Background, experience, certification, and degrees (if any) of staff are notably absent from info on the website
These people really do believe in controlling each and every aspect of these girls' lives! Holy canoli!! Take a look at the subsections of the Student Guide, e.g., 'Procedures & Consequences':.[/b]
You should see the actual handbook. :-? Very concerning was the monitoring of all contact with parents-phone and email, and the mail is read by staff. Emails are withheld often. Its a very restrictive environment. It was difficult to get any clear information about credentials. The admissions director is Dr. Darryl Williams, though it looks as though he has removed the "dr" from the website. The desgnation remains on many of the rocklyn links that can be googled. They seem to be affiliated with most of the US websites advertising in this industry.
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That list is total programmie and it screams Three Springs.
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I guess this is their version of the level system. I fail to see how this furthers cultivation of anything other than toadying back-stabbers...
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... ileges.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_privileges.htm)
Student Guide | Responsibilities & Privileges
IN-COMING STUDENT
Responsibilities: for 3 full weeks minimum
- Demonstrates an understanding of the Values of Rocklyn Academy -- Courage, Integrity and Health.
- Understands the responsibilities and privileges of each level of the Rocklyn Wheel.
- Has met with her Group Leader(s) to establish academic and personal goals for her time at Rocklyn, as well as personal strengths and challenges.
- Attends mandatory Group and House Meetings.
- Starts to follow the Rocklyn Academy's Expectations as outlined in the General, Academic, Residential and Personal Care Expectations and Standards for Student Uniforms.
- Maintain 80 or above in the Study Management Index
- Completes daily and weekly contributions.
- Prepares dinner when scheduled.
- Participates in The Smart Nutrition Program.
- Begins to say, "Yes"
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Holy shit.. I wouldn't be surprised if those two worked at Three Turds or outright copied the Three Springs teen torture manual.
The similarities are mind numbing.
Ticked if you want my unsolicited advice I'd suggest you take a flame thrower and go burn this place to the ground.
Quickly.
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Ticked if you want my unsolicited advice I'd suggest you take a flame thrower and go burn this place to the ground.
Quickly.
:roll:
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From what I can tell from the net these 2 guys were just run of the mill canadian school teachers before they opened this place in 1999. Anyone know of any prior connections to this industry? How would they have brought such an idea to Canada?
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From what I can tell from the net these 2 guys were just run of the mill canadian school teachers before they opened this place in 1999. Anyone know of any prior connections to this industry? How would they have brought such an idea to Canada?
No idea, but they seemed to pick the tricks of the trade up fast. Lots of connections to US troubled teen schools now. If a girl is resistant or showing serious problems, she ends up in wilderness, usually in Utah, fast. The parents are asked to give them permission to do this in the contract. This is a huge money maker. Tuition is 48,000+. Then they bill for therapy, gym, riding, outings on top of that-but are not clear about that part up front.
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Hiring Canadians is a Three Springs speciality. Lots of the Northern Mexicans.. err Canadians used to work for Three Springs when I was there so it isn't conceivable that they have either scored some people who used to work for Three Turds or they spent some time there themselves.
The other thing to consider is innovation in this industry is pretty nonexistent. Normally they just rearrange the same old crap and call it all good.
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There seems to also be very high staff turnover.. :-?
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Canada has a long tradition of operations like this. While the story of Pere Murray at Notre Dame is the stuff of Canadian legend, the fagging or "old boy" system employed there was the usual Lord of the Flies dynamic. Sedberg in Quebec was the same. People with money and poor parenting skills have always dumped their children into private schools like Shawnigan or St. John's Academy of Child Drowning in Alberta. AARC's most avid media supporter, Report magazine, was run by Ted Byfield who was the man behind St. John's. The problem with the new wave is that they aren't really schools. While life is harsh at the Island private schools, and at Wilcox, these places are first and foremost schools, with professional educators composing the administration and teaching staff. AARC is a child prison, staffed by former inmates. Rocklyn appears to have a fake doctor running the show just like AARC.
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Interesting.. Glad to see the myth that its all America's fault for Canada going down the Kool Aid chugger's way is more or less false.
High staff turn over? That is just about the norm for most programs in any country. Not many people want to take it from both ends, which are their bosses at one end and the kids at the other, for a paltry sum.
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Canada also has the abhorrent history of residential schools where the Canadian government (up until the 60s in some cases) had First Nations children taken from their parents into "foster care" and the had them placed in schools run by Catholic clergy. There they were regularly abused in every context of the word, literally tortured when speaking their native languages, and overall severely tramatized in the name of "education". Some of the stories from survivors of these "schools" are horrific. They would have their tongues stabbed with hot needles if they were caught speaking Cree, Ojibway or whatever their native language may have been. They were often sexually abused by the priests/nuns. And they weren't allowed to see their families for years in many cases.
Basically, Canada has its own just lovely history of institutionalized abuse that is only starting to come to light and be dealt with. The difference lies in the general public attitude towards it. Wheras in the US, the public consensus seems to be in favour of "tough love" and corporal punishment, in Canada when such things come to light there tends to be enormous public outcry. These things are not socially acceptable in Canada, although they do happen. It just should theoretically be easier to bring about change than in the US. Of course, this is also aided by the fact that Canada has a much more centralized government and isn't as complexly divided by state law.
So.... any lurking Canadians out there wanna help me?
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Seriously.. good luck, and I'm not being sarcastic, in running that bullshit out of your country. The sooner the better I say.
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Someone earlier asked about regulations and oversight with repect to the entire industry in Canada. As far as I know there is no specific oversight for the "troubled teen industry". Depending on the nature of the institution, it could fall under the purview of existing legislation or be completely unregulated. Boarding schools such as Rocklyn would be regulated as private schools. As such, they are subject to provincial and federal regulations from their respective Ministries of Education. Officially, the provincial Ministry is the governing body, but federal standards also apply.
With respect to Rocklyn Academy specifically, here is what I could find.
From the Ontario Ministry of Education's website: http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/general/el ... index.html (http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/general/elemsec/privsch/index.html)
In accordance with section 16 of the Education Act, operators of private schools in Ontario are required to notify the Ministry of Education annually of their intention to operate by filing a Notice of Intention to Operate a Private School. The ministry provides a list of registered private schools on this web site. Note: Inclusion of a private school in this directory does not imply that the instruction it offers has been approved by the ministry.
The Ministry of Education may inspect a private secondary school that has requested inspection in order to authorize the principal to grant credits in subjects leading to the Ontario Secondary School Diploma (OSSD). The inspection relates to the standard of instruction. Private secondary schools are authorized to grant credits only after a ministry inspection and this authority may be revoked following an inspection. The ministry does not inspect health, equipment, practices related to safety, or staffing issues.
The ministry does not conduct inspections of private elementary schools, unless a serious issue is brought to light. In such cases, investigations conducted by the ministry are authorized under section 16(6) of the Education Act.
Consumers are advised to exercise due diligence with respect to contracts with private schools as they would with any other business transaction. For questions related to consumers and business practices laws, marketplace rights and responsibilities, please refer to the Consumer Protection Branch of the Ministry of Government Services at Consumer Protection Overview - Government of Ontario (Canada) or call: (Toronto) (416) 326-8555, or (toll-free) 1-800-268-1142.
It should be noted that principals and teachers in private schools are not necessarily certified by the Ontario College of Teachers. Certified teachers are listed on the College’s public register at www.oct.ca (http://www.oct.ca). For information about disciplinary actions taken by the College, see investigations and hearings on the College web site.
Note: The source of most of the information provided in this list is the Notice of Intention to Operate a Private School, submitted annually by a private school.
When I searched for Rocklyn, I found that it was listed:
Rocklyn Academy
RR 2 (Rocklyn), Meaford, N4L 1W6
Tel: (519) 538-2992, Fax: (519) 538-1106
District: Barrie, School No.: 878715
Principal: Robert Shaw
Secondary
Offers credits towards the Ontario Secondary School Diploma
Female/ Residential Female
Association membership: Ontario Federation of Independent Schools
I called the number listed for the Consumer Protection Branch of the Ministry of Government Services. (If you want a laugh, listen to listing of services "If you are calling to place a complaint about a cemetary, bailiff, video rental service or professional boxing or wrestling organization, press 4.") Anyway, I couldn't get through, so I'll be calling back in an hour or so to try again.
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Canada has a long tradition of operations like this. While the story of Pere Murray at Notre Dame is the stuff of Canadian legend, the fagging or "old boy" system employed there was the usual Lord of the Flies dynamic. Sedberg in Quebec was the same. People with money and poor parenting skills have always dumped their children into private schools like Shawnigan or St. John's Academy of Child Drowning in Alberta. AARC's most avid media supporter, Report magazine, was run by Ted Byfield who was the man behind St. John's. The problem with the new wave is that they aren't really schools. While life is harsh at the Island private schools, and at Wilcox, these places are first and foremost schools, with professional educators composing the administration and teaching staff. AARC is a child prison, staffed by former inmates. Rocklyn appears to have a fake doctor running the show just like AARC.
Most post Colonial countries have boarding schools in the British tradition. Most also have a history of church as well as state run Orphanages and schools where indigenous children have been taken from their parents in a bid to teach them to be "white" .Australia has a very similar history in this regard. Most of these countries including Canada have recognised that such treatment of indigenous people is morally and legally indefensible and made some attempts to make ammends for such gravely terrible public policy. Their major churches have followed suit in this regard.
But the concept of these schools is a different and in some ways more sinister kind of abuse. Nobody is encouraged to send their child to normal boarding school (not even the tom brown school days type places) as a punishment for bad behaviour or as a treatment for mental health or disability. While there has been a sad tendency particularly in religious boarding schools for kids not to report abuse for fear of not being believed, nobody ever actively hindered or monitored communication with family and friends. They certainly do not discourage intellectual rigour or thought. Most of the major religious & private academic schools have also thankfully been forced to enact extremely thorough and strict guidelines for dealing with complaints of abuse. While horrible that it took so long the safe guards are now there in countries like Canada Oz and the US.
These places have a whole cultic mindset that is unique. They are also far greedier than their pompous boy's school or horror orhpanage cousins. They prey on people who are feeling stressed and out of options in a way that normal BS does not & in the US have actively resisted the need to put clear safe guards in for the kids they treat.
This is why it surprises me that Canada, a country with a reputation for valuing intellect and in recent years human rights seems to be embracing these schools. It is vital that this industry is stamped out in Canada before it becomes the runaway train that it is in the US. the spread of programs into Canada is the beginning of the end. it gives the industry a testing ground for the UK, europe and the Antipodes
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Very well said, good post.
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Canada has a long tradition of operations like this. While the story of Pere Murray at Notre Dame is the stuff of Canadian legend, the fagging or "old boy" system employed there was the usual Lord of the Flies dynamic. Sedberg in Quebec was the same. People with money and poor parenting skills have always dumped their children into private schools like Shawnigan or St. John's Academy of Child Drowning in Alberta. AARC's most avid media supporter, Report magazine, was run by Ted Byfield who was the man behind St. John's. The problem with the new wave is that they aren't really schools. While life is harsh at the Island private schools, and at Wilcox, these places are first and foremost schools, with professional educators composing the administration and teaching staff. AARC is a child prison, staffed by former inmates. Rocklyn appears to have a fake doctor running the show just like AARC.
Most post Colonial countries have boarding schools in the British tradition. Most also have a history of church as well as state run Orphanages and schools where indigenous children have been taken from their parents in a bid to teach them to be "white" .Australia has a very similar history in this regard. Most of these countries including Canada have recognised that such treatment of indigenous people is morally and legally indefensible and made some attempts to make ammends for such gravely terrible public policy. Their major churches have followed suit in this regard.
But the concept of these schools is a different and in some ways more sinister kind of abuse. Nobody is encouraged to send their child to normal boarding school (not even the tom brown school days type places) as a punishment for bad behaviour or as a treatment for mental health or disability. While there has been a sad tendency particularly in religious boarding schools for kids not to report abuse for fear of not being believed, nobody ever actively hindered or monitored communication with family and friends. They certainly do not discourage intellectual rigour or thought. Most of the major religious & private academic schools have also thankfully been forced to enact extremely thorough and strict guidelines for dealing with complaints of abuse. While horrible that it took so long the safe guards are now there in countries like Canada Oz and the US.
These places have a whole cultic mindset that is unique. They are also far greedier than their pompous boy's school or horror orhpanage cousins. They prey on people who are feeling stressed and out of options in a way that normal BS does not & in the US have actively resisted the need to put clear safe guards in for the kids they treat.
This is why it surprises me that Canada, a country with a reputation for valuing intellect and in recent years human rights seems to be embracing these schools. It is vital that this industry is stamped out in Canada before it becomes the runaway train that it is in the US. the spread of programs into Canada is the beginning of the end. it gives the industry a testing ground for the UK, europe and the Antipodes
seriously... fuck you for trying to blame Canada's condition on the usa. The canucks are as anti-american as you can get. They don't follow anyone's lead unless it suits their own francophile purposes.
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No gook you were just too busy trawling paranoidly for anti american sentiment to get my post.
Once this industry moves extensively into a country which currently has a good recent human rights record it is the beginning of the end because it signals a change in mindset as to how young people should be treated! i couldnt give a shit if its country of origin was timbucktu!
When I first came across the industry I was shocked that any modern western country could create a market for private schools designed to treat 'bad' kids or treat addiction by beating and starving and yelling at kids. Particularly the US which is often seen erroneously as being a little indulgent of its young!!!!! Particularly since the US devotes a lot of rhetoric to the idea of liberty or death! Turns out i was wrong.
So in the nicest possible way fuck you right back :P
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That is it you are being struck off my christmas card list!
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bumping this up. Hopefully some of the girls who come home for the holidays might get a chance to find this-the ones that actually get to come home. They have expanded the program to cover 365 days a year-so if they want, they can deny the girls a visit home if they don't "earn it"..and charge big bucks no doubt for the extra time there. :( Not alot of incentive for the staff to help the girls get a visit home. Bet a few of them lose a level or more in the next week in order to justify keeping them. Very typical and predictable.
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Sorry another bump for Rocklyn. Hopefully a parent researching this for second semester will think long and hard, and hopefully any of the girls who are able to come home for Christmas will understand they cannot be forced to go against their will. Better help is available within community agencies, and is provided free by OHIP. Sixty thousand dollars a year is a scam for shoddy and potentially dangerous care provided. Honestly i don't know how those people sleep at night.
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aaaaaaaaaaahhh yeahhhhh.
Kanukistan vs. USA.
My favorite topic.
1. I love the fact that they French hate quebecians. Everything printed item up there is in english/french. Give me a break. Every 3rd commercial in kanukistan has some canadian government branch pounding it's chest. "Environment Canada" proudly reminds you to keep our beautiful land clean ehhh. Maple leaf , maple leaf, maple leaf. It's like a syrup bottle exploded.
2. 80% of canada lives within 20 miles of the US border. Can we say HARBITRARY?
3. Kanukistan claims to be so progressive, and in many ways they are. But won't you will never hear them admit is that is due to the fact that they live under our nuculear umbrella and don't have to spend a dime on military. They have the money to be liberal socialists.
4. Many kanuks hate yanks. If they thought their position through they'd realize they're biting the hand that feeds them. I ain't trying to shove the USA down anyone's throat but for the love of god - when you're riding huge coat tails and getting everything for free at least be humble.
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I know this post is old but I'm hoping people will still see this. I didn't attend Rocklyn (thankfully) but a friend of mine is a former student. When she came back she told me some of the most horrific things I've ever heard. Since then I've been determined to ensure Rocklyn gets what it deserves. I've written every advocacy website that deals with teen treatment prgrams I can find, I've contacted the ministry of education who seems to only deal with academic aspects, I've contacted child advocacy experts who told me to call child services. I don't have specifics on a student under 16 so I can't do that. My next action is seeking some legal advice, my friend's dad is a lawyer. I'm going to tell him everything I know but the problem is I don't know a lot. Rocklyn isn't exactly forth coming on their website and my friend refuses to talk about most of her experiences there. If anyone is willing to tell me what is in that infamous handbook that elaborates on the very vague web descriptions or potentially discuss their experiences or some of the policies of the school that the public doesn't know about I would really apreciate it. I won't give out any names to the lawyer without permission but the more I know and can pass on the better chance I have of building a case. If anyone can help me I'm using the email [email protected]. Thank you to anyone who replies and my deepest sympathies to any suffering you have suffered due to Rocklyn Academy.
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http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=31705421 (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=31705421)
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http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=31705421
Can someone copy and paste the blog? The great firewall of china strikes again.. bleh.
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If you were at rockly you might understand or you might not part of me really doesnt care i was just revisiting the past and wanted to post this.
The pain is paralyzing,
My body shivers and I feel like I will never move again.
What is it that gives me this pain.
I wish it was an actual pain,
But its not it's the pain of where I am.
An institution, and asylum, a psychiatric ward.
But they don't call it any of these names,
They call it a school,
They call it Rocklyn Academy.
A place where I lose my sanity.
I can admit I had some problems,
Before I came here.
But I don't think that they even compare anymore,
I didn't get along with my parents, I had sex,
I look back now I know how it was all nothing.
But now I've been sucked into this place.
And when I go home not only is it,
The sex, and the arguments,
But it is the drugs, the alcohol, and the incapacity of dealing with people anymore.
This place may have helped me a little in one way,
But it has ruined me for the rest of my life in so many other ways.
Forever I will remember haunting memories of this place and they will never go away.
The crying eyes of a child,
Screaming in their first few weeks,
That their parents will come get them,
And actually believing it.
But their parents like everyone else's do not come.
So they feel that they have nothing else to live for,
And are all alone in the world,
For their parents obviously don't want them anymore,
And if they did why would they send them here.
Blood drips from their wrists,
And I watch it fall onto the floor,
As they scream
I hate it here, why do my parents hate me.
Did I really hurt them this badly?
That they had to do this to me.
After a while you realize they don't hate you,
They just don't understand.
They don't understand,
What we see,
What we hear,
But even more importantly what we feel.
The Pain is paralyzing,
And it is the only thing we all have in common.
And yet we do not help each other.
This place has killed souls,
Souls of some beautiful and amazing young women.
The strong ones will prevail once they have left.
But some have been destroyed forever,
And some have lost the beauty of innocence that they once had,
And gained the beauty of a dark hart with its mystery and pain.
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Rocklyn The good
Current mood: blah
If you were at rockly you might understand or you might not part of me really doesnt care i was just revisiting the past and wanted to post this.
There is a place in the world that teaches you the most necessary tools of life
At this place everyone learns, no one is excluded
We are all equal in the fact that without every single person we would be incomplete.
Rocklyn is the place that teaches you
The difference between who you are and who you want to become
It's the place where you will meet your greatest fears
And learn to defeat them without your family or your friends
You say why would I need or want to do that,
Because it will teach you to be the best you can be
And that you can accomplish anything.
It's always funny to see the new girls come in
They say with their heads held high
I have no problems I don't know why I'm here
Some times they are the ones with the most problems.
But even if their problems are less than others they are still there.
This is also great for the girls
Who have now seen that they do have problems and are not perfect.
It shows them how they used to be.
Then there are the rules.
Which most truly do not like,
But you learn to put up with them
And one day you realize that,
Even though you still may not like them there is good reasoning behind them
And they are there to actually help you not to hinder you.
But then there is the part of Rocklyn that even the staff can not help with, the gossip.
The gossip, is the worst part of Rocklyn,
Not, not being able to talk to your friends and family,
Not, not being able to eat what ever and whenever you want,
Not, not being able to smoke,
Not anything else that you may have a problem with.
It's the gossip, the gossip that everyone does
Whether it be the oh my god I don't like her because of this this and this,
Or even the oh my god she gossips so much she said this about you and that about you.
The, why can't we all just get along
Why do "they" always have to cause problems and gossip I really don't like her because she does that.
It's all just a load of B.S.
Honestly I don't think that we could all get along perfectly
For one were not here because we are the perfect children of the world
Two who said and why do we have to like everyone
Must we like the people who do things we think are wrong
Or who we have tried to not be like or get away from before coming here
I think the answer is no.
So am I happy that I came to Rocklyn?
Do I think it was worth it?
Yes for where I would be today if I had not come here
I don't know if I even want to think about that.
So thank you Rocklyn for our teachers and our students
For the people we like and those that we don't
For the things we don't understand quite yet
And the things that shine like the sun on a clear blue day.
The world is becoming a better place because of you Rocklyn and what you teach us.
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Copied & pasted.
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Posted: Nov 20, 2008
ROCKLYN ACADEMY (http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/publish/RocklynAcademyVR_081119.shtml)
Meaford, Ontario Canada
519-538-2992
http://www.rocklynacademy.com (http://www.rocklynacademy.com)
Visit Report by Lon Woodbury - June 5, 2008
Rocklyn Academy is an all-girl emotional growth school set in a pastoral setting on the plains of Ontario Canada. It is in a very rural setting surrounded by farms as far as the eye can see. Common youth distractions usually found in metropolitan areas are far away. Without those distractions, the girls can focus on their own self growth.
The girls were busy with end of the year testing during my visit and I had a chance to visit with several of the girls who were positive about their school and their experiences there. The atmosphere was one of excitement over the end of the school year along with anxiety as to how well they would do on their tests. It was obvious that the activities were individualized with the girls doing a wide variety of tasks - some were at a table by themselves taking tests, others were finishing up art class projects, some were working with their teachers in test preparation, others were using some free time to practice their guitars while others who had finished their tests were working on posters for an upcoming annual school event. The effect was a pleasant and constructive buzz in preparation for their June 14th graduation.
The Academy opened in August 1999 with ten girls referred by Canadian consultants. Over the years there have been many students from the states, but currently all the students are from Canada, mostly from British Columbia, Saskatchewan, and Ontario Provinces.
The main goal of the school is to enroll girls who are having troubles back home, and get them back on track. The school's main focus is what they call "therapeutic Milieu" through providing the girls consistency in their lives. That is the school aims at providing the girls the security of predictability so they can make the changes in thinking necessary to have successful lives. With nurturing staff, this provides a structure that helps the girls forgive themselves. Primary lessons throughout the day are holding up the values of courage, health and integrity. As they say on their web site, "We concentrate on validating high levels of sensitivity, intuition and creativity and intelligence - as gateways to help young women balance and positively ignite their special gifts to become extraordinary women…. The understanding that sensitivity, intuition, creativity and intelligence can be fundamental elements in a new appreciation of life, may come as a relief." Balance is the underlying lesson. The school teaches the girls the importance of sensitivity with boundaries; intuition with reason; creativity with compassion; and intelligence with education.
Academics are based on small classes with a combination of lectures and self-study. In the curriculum, along with standard core classes, there is an emphasis on experiential subjects like art, photography, and music. The students are graded on content and held accountable for effort. The School follows the guidelines of Ontario’s Ministry of Education and there are usually no problems transferring credit back to US schools. With an emphasis on self-study, the girls set their own academic goals with the advice and help of staff, and then are required to work until they achieve mastery of their goals. Classes start at 8:15 AM and continue to 2:00 PM. After that comes Physical Education or therapy.
Therapy tends to be self-directed with a common problem to be worked on being the labels each girl brings with them to the school. Each girl participates in therapy groups three times a week, along with individual work on the issues they have identified in themselves with staff who emphasizes nurturing the strengths and insight each girl has developed. Common issues addressed at the school are ADHD, ODD and anger management. Students with serious diagnoses such as Bipolar Disorder and Asperger's Syndrome might be considered for enrollment if those conditions are effectively controlled by appropriate medication. However, in general the school is not appropriate for girls with serious emotional problems if considered runaway risks.
The school's philosophy is that working with parents is vital to the healing of their daughters. The goal of the school in working with parents is to help the parents be ready to receive their daughter back home and support her in her new insights and self-awareness. The girls are in regular contact with their parents throughout their stay and parents are invited to visit the school frequently and share in their daughter's successes or struggles.
My impression from my brief visit was a healthy and positive environment that would do well for girls with common core issues. They are in no way designed for girls with serious clinical problems, but are doing well with girls with mild learning differences, mild depression, ADHD, ODD and OCD.
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Probably worth noting that Lon Woodbury is an educational consultant who makes his living by referring teens and parents to facilities such as Rocklyn. Other schools on his referral website are being investigated for abuse or involved in lawsuits such as Benchmark Young Adult School.
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Lon Woddbury also refers to Provo Canyon School and a lot of failities that are constantly appearing on these forums. www.strugglingteens.com (http://www.strugglingteens.com)
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I think the better thing to do is to ask if people can actually find a school that Lon shills or that doesn't abuse kids in some way or another.
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I've been told my ISAC (International Survivors in Action Committee) that if any student who attended can give them a statement they can add Rocklyn to their warning list. Their email is http://www.isaccorp.org/warningsigns.asp (http://www.isaccorp.org/warningsigns.asp) or that seems wrong to you please email ISAC and tell them.
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I've been told my ISAC (International Survivors in Action Committee) that if any student who attended can give them a statement they can add Rocklyn to their warning list.
As I understand it, it's not quite that simple. ISAC requires at least two corroborating sworn statements in addition to their own independent investigation. That's not to say you shoudlnt' submit a statement. Somebody has to start the ball rolling.
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The ISAC rep who emaied me said they needed a statement from a student..... if they need more than one I hope they'll get more than one. I've passed on what I heard from a student and pointed out what they list on the website that's concerning. I figured this was the best place to find people.
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It's a great place to find people. Don't give up!
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You might also try sniffing around the Facebook community group.
I'll repost a message:
for my short lived time at rocklyn...all i can say is FUCK YOUU ALLL!!!!! ALL OF YOU!!! FUCK.....i love how at the school they tell you "oh youll look back and think its such a good time" or "you'll be thankfull and appreciate it later" adn NO BODY DOESSSSSSSS fuckersss. anyways still when i tell people stories abotu rocklyn they are all liek wtf? and when they call their regualr high school/university rules too strict im all shut the fuck up yall
peace
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The real question is how is this place still in business. If your parents want to be responsible for single handedly setting you and any aspirations you might have back at least half a decade... or for worse an eternity then let them know that this is the place to ship you. The head mistress is a transexual, brainwashing, manipulative sadistic creep, who has some how brainwashed the only wonderful staff member left (most got out of there after the first year it was opened - when i attended rocklyn) into staying... then again maybe it is compassion.
Anyway rocklyn at best can be discribed as a mistake, a life altering (for worse) horrendously corrupting... fucked up - should never happen to anyone mistake.
It is career, social, sanity, normaility - SUICIDE!
^^I liked this one.
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it is the saddest place in the world, you'll hear and see things you wish you never did. plus the teachers are not real teachers, and you never get to go out. i went in there being a good little sweetheart, and ended up losing my position for somthing i didn't even do. i left that shithole at in coming, which basically means no god damn rights as a human being!!!!
^^^ lawds child.. tells us, or better yet, tell ISAC all about it.
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Ok.. posted about ISAC on the Facebook group's page. maybe they'll get some nibbles maybe they won't. I'll sniff around later after they've had some time to think about it.
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Thanks so much! I'll look around too. I'm seeking legal advice and the more I find out about this school the more options I might have. Not that anything I've heard about this place has been positive.
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not sure what you can do about it legally... but definitely see if you can find away. No telling what can crop up when you least expect it.
Found another juicy blurb on another facebook group:
shitt i just found out this girl from my old catholic school got sent there!
hahhaha her parents did the whole " we're going to ontario!" trick and dropped her off at rocklyn and left her there.
but holy shit i saw on their website they have this new " Rocklyn RAMP" aka
Rocklyn Academy Motivational Plan
LMAO your not allowed to leave your bedroom basically and only showers between 2-4!, SUPERVISED.
I left a message on this other group encouraging them to get in contact with ISAC. lol.. I'm not even an ISAC rep.. hmm.. I think I better let William and Shelby know wuts up.
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It's different this time because the Houston Police are involved.
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The Rocklyn RAMP is insane. I sent it to ISAC, I can't believe they put it on their website. Some of the particularly awful points include
-No family conflict on level 3
-Not allowed off property on Levels 2 and 3 (gym is off property)
-Supervised shower and bathroom use on Levels 2 and 3
-All free time spent in room and one meal in room per level (so all meals on Level 3)
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... l-plan.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_motivational-plan.htm)
And this is just what I've found on the website. This assumes this is the whole story.... which I really doubt.
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The Rocklyn RAMP is insane. I sent it to ISAC, I can't believe they put it on their website. Some of the particularly awful points include
-No family conflict on level 3
-Not allowed off property on Levels 2 and 3 (gym is off property)
-Supervised shower and bathroom use on Levels 2 and 3
-All free time spent in room and one meal in room per level (so all meals on Level 3)
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... l-plan.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_motivational-plan.htm)
And this is just what I've found on the website. This assumes this is the whole story.... which I really doubt.
Well that's certainly fucked up. I've uploaded a copy here (http://http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynAcademy.pdf) just in case they remove it.
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Another messed up detail here:
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... ileges.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_privileges.htm)
Archive here (http://http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPrivs.pdf).
Also their Consequences page:
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... edures.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_procedures.htm)
Archive here (http://http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynConsequences.pdf).
A few more i'll just print out, drag to ftp, and throw up here for download in case they remove:
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynContributions.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynContributions.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynWheel.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynWheel.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynCalendar.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynCalendar.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynSchedule.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynSchedule.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPacking.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPacking.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynNutrition.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynNutrition.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynStaff.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynStaff.pdf)
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Another messed up detail here:
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... ileges.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_privileges.htm)
Archive here (http://http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPrivs.pdf).
Also their Consequences page:
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... edures.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_procedures.htm)
Archive here (http://http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynConsequences.pdf).
A few more i'll just print out, drag to ftp, and throw up here for download in case they remove:
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynContributions.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynContributions.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynWheel.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynWheel.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynCalendar.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynCalendar.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynSchedule.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynSchedule.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPacking.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPacking.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynNutrition.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynNutrition.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynStaff.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynStaff.pdf)
put it up fast because they will remove it. a trend today is gulag-cults removing the abduction and torture from their websites. Beforehand, it was kind of a selling point
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I found an enrollment form.
http://netpacepromotions.com/rocklynaca (http://netpacepromotions.com/rocklynaca) ... ration.pdf
Parents and guardians financially responsible for the girl named below are required to sign this agreement in duplicate, and return both copies along with payment of the non-refundable tuition (payment option 1) or the tuition deposit and first month’s
installment (for payment options 2) or 3) to Rocklyn Academy. One copy will be countersigned and returned to you.
Name of student: ______________________________________
Full names, complete physical addresses and phone numbers of both parents and/or guardians:
Father Mother
In consideration of acceptance of the Registration and Enrolment Agreement by Rocklyn Academy, the undersigned agree to pay the required Tuition for the above-named student for the above-specified enrollment term. I/We further agree to be financially responsible for all expenses incurred by the student during the currency of this agreement. All payments made are non-refundable.
TWO-SEMESTER TUITION FEES
(Tuition Fees are subject to change without notice)
Payment Options
Option 1
42,600.00
Option 2
Deposit 9,500.00 Deposit 9,500.00
Option 3
month 1 6,860.00 month 1 4,437.50
month 2 6,860.00 month 2 4,437.50
month 3 6,860.00 month 3 4,437.50
month 4 6,860.00 month 4 4,437.50
month 5 6,860.00 month 5 4,437.50
month 6 4,437.50
month 7 4,437.50
month 8 4,437.50
Total Tuition 42,600.00 43,800.00 45,000.00
Additional charges for student activities and expenses at the school are estimated to cost approximately $6,000 for the twosemester
term as specified above. These additional charges will be billed to the students' personal accounts as they occur. Items falling under this category include: uniforms, tuck, horseback riding, skiing/boarding, weekend activities, stationery, medical expenses, special events and the counselling with our therapists.
Initials of parents or guardians
____________
____________
I understand that in accepting this Registration and Enrolment Agreement, Rocklyn Academy assumes an obligation to provide educational services to said student and others attending the Academy and incurs obligations, both financial and otherwise, including but not limited to administration expenses, for this purpose and accordingly my obligation to pay fees is unconditional and irrevocable, that no portion of the fee paid or outstanding will be refunded or cancelled in the event of absence, withdrawal, or dismissal from Rocklyn Academy of the above-named student.
I hereby declare that I have disclosed to Rocklyn Academy, all known background information relevant to the physical and emotional health of the applicant.
I understand that in signing this Registration and Enrolment Agreement I am agreeing to accept the rules and regulations of Rocklyn Academy and the rules governing the payment of fees described herein.
Furthermore, I understand that Rocklyn Academy reserves the right to deny classes and services to a girl should fees not have been paid by the required date, and acknowledge that Rocklyn Academy will assess a late payment charge on overdue balances at the rate of 2% per month (24% per annum) after the due date of this agreement and I agree to the policy of Rocklyn Academy that a final report card will be withheld until all accounts are paid in full. It is further agreed that any negotiable cheques that are returned by the bank for any reason shall be assessed at an
administration fee of $50.00.
A statement of charges to the student’s account will be sent out periodically during the year.
To reserve a place for a student, a non-refundable cheque in full payment of the Tuition or Tuition Deposit and both copies of this Registration and Enrolment Agreement must be forwarded to Rocklyn Academy. This instrument shall be interpreted in accordance with the laws of the Province of Ontario. In particular, it is agreed that the fees and tuition paid or outstanding will be considered liquidated damages.
I give approval to my daughter’s participation in all the school’s programs and activities including without limitation, participation in physical education and athletic programs and activities, acknowledge that such participation involves risks and hazards incidental thereto, all of which are expressly assumed and do hereby waive, release and absolve and agree to indemnify and save harmless, Rocklyn Academy, its employees and agents of and from any and all liability arising there from, except suchas shall arise solely as a consequence of its or their willful neglect or default.
I agree that all pictures, still or video, taken of my daughter may be used for public relations.
Signatures of both parents and/or guardians who are financially responsible for the student.
___________________ ____________________________________
Date Parent / Guardian
___________________ ____________________________________
Date Parent / Guardian
ACCEPTED:
Date: _______________________ ________________________________
Of particular notice: the second last paragraph where they ask parents to waive blame if the students is harmed unless due to "willful neglect" so accidental neglect is okay? Also the tuition amount increases with more installments which means parents will likely lose more money withdrawing their daughters early.... they also state MULTIPLE TIMES that tuition fees will not be refunded if the students is withdrawn/kick out etc. They mention only education and only mention "counselling" once..... while informing the parents that in a therapeutic school such as this "counselling" is an extra expense which will be billed to them separately... as will gym. Basically the entire enrollment application focusses on getting parents to sign on that they will pay Rocklyn no matter what happens..... Probably a good statement of the interests of the school.
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Our enrollment form was slightly different. It asked for parental approval for them to send our child to a wilderness program should they deem it necessary.It should have been a huge red flag. There was a form for permission to access her medical records. They never did as far as we can tell. Its apparent they could have cared less what the issues were-they just want the numbers. I can confirm-if you leave early, you are stuck paying the entire shot, despite their reassurances otherwise. If your child enrolls in December for instance, you have to pay until the next December-a full year. After a few weeks it was quite apparent they were incompetent and dangerous. We lost a year of salary, paying for a place that not only didn't help, but caused significant trauma, damage and was unsafe.
We were stupid. We thought that because the Ministry of Ed awarded credits, that the place was supervised, lisenced and had medical support. Dr. Darryl Williams is not a medical dr. They take advantage of desperate parents, and the fact the system here is so lacking in services.
The add on expenses were horrendous. Since they seem to make excuses why our dd needed to have supervised calls home-they would bill us for a therapist to sit in on those calls.
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I found an enrollment form.
http://netpacepromotions.com/rocklynaca ... ration.pdf
Parents and guardians financially responsible for the girl named below are required to sign this agreement in duplicate, and return both copies along with payment of the non-refundable tuition (payment option 1) or the tuition deposit and first month’s
installment (for payment options 2) or 3) to Rocklyn Academy. One copy will be countersigned and returned to you.
Name of student: ______________________________________
Full names, complete physical addresses and phone numbers of both parents and/or guardians:
Father Mother
In consideration of acceptance of the Registration and Enrolment Agreement by Rocklyn Academy, the undersigned agree to pay the required Tuition for the above-named student for the above-specified enrollment term. I/We further agree to be financially responsible for all expenses incurred by the student during the currency of this agreement. All payments made are non-refundable.
TWO-SEMESTER TUITION FEES
(Tuition Fees are subject to change without notice)
Payment Options
Option 1
42,600.00
Option 2
Deposit 9,500.00 Deposit 9,500.00
Option 3
month 1 6,860.00 month 1 4,437.50
month 2 6,860.00 month 2 4,437.50
month 3 6,860.00 month 3 4,437.50
month 4 6,860.00 month 4 4,437.50
month 5 6,860.00 month 5 4,437.50
month 6 4,437.50
month 7 4,437.50
month 8 4,437.50
Total Tuition 42,600.00 43,800.00 45,000.00
Additional charges for student activities and expenses at the school are estimated to cost approximately $6,000 for the twosemester
term as specified above. These additional charges will be billed to the students' personal accounts as they occur. Items falling under this category include: uniforms, tuck, horseback riding, skiing/boarding, weekend activities, stationery, medical expenses, special events and the counselling with our therapists.
Initials of parents or guardians
____________
____________
I understand that in accepting this Registration and Enrolment Agreement, Rocklyn Academy assumes an obligation to provide educational services to said student and others attending the Academy and incurs obligations, both financial and otherwise, including but not limited to administration expenses, for this purpose and accordingly my obligation to pay fees is unconditional and irrevocable, that no portion of the fee paid or outstanding will be refunded or cancelled in the event of absence, withdrawal, or dismissal from Rocklyn Academy of the above-named student.
I hereby declare that I have disclosed to Rocklyn Academy, all known background information relevant to the physical and emotional health of the applicant.
I understand that in signing this Registration and Enrolment Agreement I am agreeing to accept the rules and regulations of Rocklyn Academy and the rules governing the payment of fees described herein.
Furthermore, I understand that Rocklyn Academy reserves the right to deny classes and services to a girl should fees not have been paid by the required date, and acknowledge that Rocklyn Academy will assess a late payment charge on overdue balances at the rate of 2% per month (24% per annum) after the due date of this agreement and I agree to the policy of Rocklyn Academy that a final report card will be withheld until all accounts are paid in full. It is further agreed that any negotiable cheques that are returned by the bank for any reason shall be assessed at an
administration fee of $50.00.
A statement of charges to the student’s account will be sent out periodically during the year.
To reserve a place for a student, a non-refundable cheque in full payment of the Tuition or Tuition Deposit and both copies of this Registration and Enrolment Agreement must be forwarded to Rocklyn Academy. This instrument shall be interpreted in accordance with the laws of the Province of Ontario. In particular, it is agreed that the fees and tuition paid or outstanding will be considered liquidated damages.
I give approval to my daughter’s participation in all the school’s programs and activities including without limitation, participation in physical education and athletic programs and activities, acknowledge that such participation involves risks and hazards incidental thereto, all of which are expressly assumed and do hereby waive, release and absolve and agree to indemnify and save harmless, Rocklyn Academy, its employees and agents of and from any and all liability arising there from, except suchas shall arise solely as a consequence of its or their willful neglect or default.
I agree that all pictures, still or video, taken of my daughter may be used for public relations.
Signatures of both parents and/or guardians who are financially responsible for the student.
___________________ ____________________________________
Date Parent / Guardian
___________________ ____________________________________
Date Parent / Guardian
ACCEPTED:
Date: _______________________ ________________________________
Of particular notice: the second last paragraph where they ask parents to waive blame if the students is harmed unless due to "willful neglect" so accidental neglect is okay? Also the tuition amount increases with more installments which means parents will likely lose more money withdrawing their daughters early.... they also state MULTIPLE TIMES that tuition fees will not be refunded if the students is withdrawn/kick out etc. They mention only education and only mention "counselling" once..... while informing the parents that in a therapeutic school such as this "counselling" is an extra expense which will be billed to them separately... as will gym. Basically the entire enrollment application focusses on getting parents to sign on that they will pay Rocklyn no matter what happens..... Probably a good statement of the interests of the school.
Corrected link:
http://netpacepromotions.com/rocklynaca ... ration.pdf (http://netpacepromotions.com/rocklynacademy/pdf/rocklyn_06registration.pdf)
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Our enrollment form was slightly different. It asked for parental approval for them to send our child to a wilderness program should they deem it necessary.It should have been a huge red flag. There was a form for permission to access her medical records. They never did as far as we can tell. Its apparent they could have cared less what the issues were-they just want the numbers. I can confirm-if you leave early, you are stuck paying the entire shot, despite their reassurances otherwise. If your child enrolls in December for instance, you have to pay until the next December-a full year. After a few weeks it was quite apparent they were incompetent and dangerous. We lost a year of salary, paying for a place that not only didn't help, but caused significant trauma, damage and was unsafe.
We were stupid. We thought that because the Ministry of Ed awarded credits, that the place was supervised, lisenced and had medical support. Dr. Darryl Williams is not a medical dr. They take advantage of desperate parents, and the fact the system here is so lacking in services.
The add on expenses were horrendous. Since they seem to make excuses why our dd needed to have supervised calls home-they would bill us for a therapist to sit in on those calls.
I can't tell you how many of these so-called "therapeutic" or "emotional growth" boarding schools pull this kind of tuition scam. In the place I am most familiar with (Hyde School), roughly 35% of the students do not complete the year, with the school keeping the remainder of the tuition (~$1.4 million presuming those kids left, on average, halfway through; many leave earlier).
A few parents have balked successfully, threatening to sue or even starting the process with an attorney. I believe the claims were generally along the lines of "services substantially not as advertised." The school has settled in each case that I am aware of, preferring to keep hostile opinion out of the press. Unfortunately, not enough parents have the wherewithal, or chutzpah, or resources in reserve, to stand their ground. It is definitely more difficult when they already have your cash in hand.
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We did seek legal advice-and at that point it looked like it was going to cost even more money. They know the laws are shaky on this.
However, a search on Dr Williams today shows he is being investigated for another of his business dealings. One can only hope they take a good look at what else he is up to. He has since taken off the "dr label" and "medical director" off the website i beleive, but it remains in older posts, archived pages etc-especially since they linked themselves with every possible organization and web page out there, its impossible for him to erase the remnants of those lies. He never has been a member of the College of Physicians and Surgeons.
http://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/Articl ... ?e=1427378 (http://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1427378)
In this article it appears he was also presenting himself as a medical doctor.
:eek:
http://www.thestar.com/Business/SmallBu ... cle/459503 (http://www.thestar.com/Business/SmallBusiness/article/459503)
If anyone has had run-ins with him presenting himself as a dr-especially if he touched your dd, offered medical advice, prescriptions, diagnosis etc. Call the Owen Sound OPP detachment.
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and another article outlining how much some local farmers have been taken for.
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:UJb ... clnk&gl=ca (http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:UJbxeMRRW34J:www.betterfarming.com/printpdf/1812+darryl+williams+beef+opp&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
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Another messed up detail here:
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... ileges.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_privileges.htm)
Archive here (http://http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPrivs.pdf).
Also their Consequences page:
http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_g ... edures.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/student_guide/guide_procedures.htm)
Archive here (http://http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynConsequences.pdf).
A few more i'll just print out, drag to ftp, and throw up here for download in case they remove:
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynContributions.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynContributions.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynWheel.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynWheel.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynCalendar.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynCalendar.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynSchedule.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynSchedule.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPacking.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynPacking.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynNutrition.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynNutrition.pdf)
http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynStaff.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/RocklynStaff.pdf)
put it up fast because they will remove it. a trend today is gulag-cults removing the abduction and torture from their websites. Beforehand, it was kind of a selling point
good work saving it. Great people on fornits. I'm glad the term gulag-cult is taking off!
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Guest -- would you mind contacting me privately? Perhaps we could work on an article for the front page of Fornits from your point of view. It can be completely confidential. E-mail me at [email protected]. Ginger, Psy and numerous others will vouch for my discretion, if you should like to inquire. If we can deter one parent from making similar mistakes, perhaps we can do one child great favors. Perhaps more.
Our enrollment form was slightly different. It asked for parental approval for them to send our child to a wilderness program should they deem it necessary.It should have been a huge red flag. There was a form for permission to access her medical records. They never did as far as we can tell. Its apparent they could have cared less what the issues were-they just want the numbers. I can confirm-if you leave early, you are stuck paying the entire shot, despite their reassurances otherwise. If your child enrolls in December for instance, you have to pay until the next December-a full year. After a few weeks it was quite apparent they were incompetent and dangerous. We lost a year of salary, paying for a place that not only didn't help, but caused significant trauma, damage and was unsafe.
We were stupid. We thought that because the Ministry of Ed awarded credits, that the place was supervised, lisenced and had medical support. Dr. Darryl Williams is not a medical dr. They take advantage of desperate parents, and the fact the system here is so lacking in services.
The add on expenses were horrendous. Since they seem to make excuses why our dd needed to have supervised calls home-they would bill us for a therapist to sit in on those calls.
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What kind of doctor did Darryl Williams claim he was? GP? Psychiatrist? I'm guessing from the staff page they don't have either on staff despite having girls on medication. Particularly irresponsible to have no doctor if they accept girls with eating disorders or serious drug problems as those can cause sudden severe health complicatioons. Do they even have a nurse?
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hey this is really funny, i was googling rocklyn as i do every couple of months, and i came across this,
and the funny part is that i saw somebody had posted one of my posts from facebook! i was the person who posted about how this girl i knew from catholic school went there,
but anyways, i would love to vouch for seing things against rocklyn
when i was there daryll said he had a degree in vetinary medecine or something to my mom
but he upped this girls dosage of anti depressants so high up that she ended up in the hospital
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also i would like to point out, in the motivational ramp,
Allowed only under garments, 1 pair of Pajama’s and slippers (or flip flops)
that is in level 3 of it,
also at rocklyn, you only get to do laundry ONCE A WEEK
so they are making the girls on level 3 of the ramp, wear the same dirty underwear for an entire week,
so even if you have a supervised shower... you put back on the same dirty clothes? thats disguistin
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Vetrinary medicine? So that's what a "D.Sc. (medicine)" means http://www.rocklynacademy.com/about/about_corestaff.htm (http://www.rocklynacademy.com/about/about_corestaff.htm). And he's taking care of HUMAN medicine for the girls at Rocklyn? I can't even IMAGINE the logic they'd use to justify this.
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I can vouch for this, I went to rocklyn and saw a girl get put on RAMP 3 for months on end, isolated in her room with only the same dirty clothes to wear, all simply because she would not shave off her mowhawk and go bald.
also i would like to point out, in the motivational ramp,
Allowed only under garments, 1 pair of Pajama’s and slippers (or flip flops)
that is in level 3 of it,
also at rocklyn, you only get to do laundry ONCE A WEEK
so they are making the girls on level 3 of the ramp, wear the same dirty underwear for an entire week,
so even if you have a supervised shower... you put back on the same dirty clothes? thats disguistin