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In 1980 two teenagers opted out of life while being detained at this facility.

  • In June 15-year old Tina Byrd hanged herself using part of her clothes
  • In November 16-year-old Russel John Hayden used bedsheet to hang himself detained for truancy issues

What conditions at this detention center brought not only one teenager to suicide but two?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The tragic loss of all hands on a Visionquest boat (1980)
« Last post by Oscar on September 21, 2021, 06:28:12 AM »
A 25 foot sailboat sent out on the open Pacific ocean by Visionquest on a survival cruise became a death trap when lack of seaman ship and possible ignoring of weather forecast meant that the sailboat was caught in a storm the crew and students could not survive.

Among the deaths were:
  • 15-year-old Robert Doyle Erwin
  • Lyle Foodroy
  • 17-year-old Robert Zimmerman
  • 16-year-old Charles Lucas
  • 14-year-old James Lamb
  • 19-year-old Bernard Reefer
  • 17-year-old Eric David Schibley

Did that stop Visionquest from sending teenagers out into open sea? No. What was then learned? What is your opinion on that?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The tragic death of Connie Munson (1980)
« Last post by Oscar on September 21, 2021, 06:06:27 AM »
14 year old Connie Munson died when she was a detained so-called student at the    Bethesda home for girls. Some sources claim that she was in the process of running away when she was killed by passing traffic others state otherwise, but does it matter? A girl named Pam Pellegrini survived the accident but was properly unable to aid the authorities into what took place that day.

Had Connie not been detained at the Bethesda home for girls, she would have gone on to live a full life.

The program itself later got into legal trouble of other kind and was closed. The campus burned down to the ground some years later but it was too late for this poor girl.

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In 1970 a fire erupted at Grove School. Two students lost their lives as result. The circumstances why they were in a part of the school where they were not able to escape were unclear at the time of the fire and never fully investigated.

But two families never got their relatives back.

Did anyone learn from this tragedy? Why can you go over fire inspections reports even today finding doors locked when they should not be? As long as rules and regulations are not followed the next tragedy is only a matter of time.

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Hyde Schools / Hyde Nepotism - Gaulds, Hurds, Macmillans, Grants, and so many more!
« Last post by survivorami on September 20, 2021, 08:26:27 PM »
Gaulds and all the spouses/relatives of the Gaulds:
  • Joseph "Joe" Gauld, founder
    Laura Denton Gauld & Malcolm Gauld, current presidents/heads of Hyde, Joe's son and daughter in law
    Paul Hurd & Laurie Gauld Hurd (former heads of Hyde), their children
    Georgia "Gigi" Gauld Macmillan & Donald Macmillan (former heads & employees of Hyde). & their children
    Kenneth Grant & Claire Denton Grant (Laura Gauld's sister), & their children

Then there are a ton more faculty who maybe went to Hyde, came back after and married another Hyde faculty member and had some kids and then put their kids in Hyde for no charge.  That is a long list, will come back later with it.

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James Michael Ziede, 27, died in August 2021, suddenly/unexpectedly while on a trip

https://massapequafuneralhome.com/obituary/james-michael-ziede/
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The Troubled Teen Industry / The tragic death of Joy Evans (1976)
« Last post by Oscar on September 20, 2021, 05:01:09 PM »
Forest Haven Asylum does not exist today. Force feeding we know about from Guantanamo Bay. However it is not a new invention. Women who made the choice to fight for their rights were force-feed 100 years ago.

So how could the employees at Forest Haven Asylum make such a stupid mistake to force-feed a child who were lying down instead of sitting up? Could it be that the methods never changed in the Troubled Teen industry to hire the cheapest employees were the decisive element that brought on the death of a 17 year old teenager?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The tragic death of Lorene Larhette (1971)
« Last post by Oscar on September 20, 2021, 04:52:47 PM »
She was not the only person to die during those tragic days in 1971. She did not attend a wilderness program as we know them today where muscle men get the teenager from the teenagers own bed using handcuffs and other kinds of restraints but made the "volunteering" choice to attend the wilderness program because it would look good on her CV when later applying for a university.

But as with wilderness programs in the decades that followed, the employees were not prepared to rapid changes in the weather and that led to the tragedy in 1971.

Nothing was learned from this tragedy and that is the worst part. Teenagers continue to die in wilderness programs. Why did nothing change?

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Hyde Schools / Grieving parent of a former Hyde student shares his testimony
« Last post by survivorami on September 03, 2021, 02:59:06 PM »
Grieving parent of a former Hyde student shares his testimony.
Trigger warning: Suicide

I am not ready, even after these years, to discuss the details of what happened to my son, the long tortured path that led to his death. I said that Hyde was a station along the way and contributed, though Hyde is not solely responsible in that sense... I am also afraid to give too much away that might identify me to Hyde trolls or others. The people at Hyde have shown they are quite capable of the most nefarious behavior in protecting their God Gauld and their little enterprise and I have no room left in me for fighting. I can tell you that they spun him like a rat.. changing the maze whenever he thought he had it down and convincing him that he was a piece of s--- unless he played their game. He couldn't. He didn't. He failed there and they smashed his self-confidence to pieces. He was weak, mentally ill, needed some form of treatment but no one recognized it. I pulled him out jail over and over again, retrieved him from international locales after he'd been arrested, incarcerated in various institutions.. his illness progressed and everyone along the way who made it worse - like the people at Hyde - contributed. I contributed myself. When your  20-year-old son takes your shotgun after breaking into a gun cabinet and blows his brains out, you are also destroyed by it.

Suffice to say that the vulnerable types must be protected from institutions like Hyde because Hyde is no different from the general society, in that respect. Who doesn't conform, is destroyed. It is the school's failure to determine who it can help and who it cannot - who it will in fact make worse - that makes it a quasi-criminal enterprise. Any truly idealistic institution would recognize its limitations to protect those it might harm. Not Hyde. Money drives Hyde. Money, power and self-aggrandizement are its stock in trader. Once they get your money, it's actually in their interest to force you out because it's non-refundable and they get paid for not doing anything. Meanwhile the next fool steps up, urged on by [pro-Hyders] no doubt, and another $30-40-50,000 goes into the company safe. It's a racket run by a kind of Mafiosi, sociopaths with suits and sob stories and a very slick brochure.

This past February was the fourth anniversary of my son's suicide in the basement. Prior to that he had spent some time at Hyde, perhaps a year or less and whatever problems he had to begin with were so exacerbated by his experiences there that I have always linked the two. I couldn't say it was direct because there was some time between when he was thrown out of Hyde and when he shot himself, but I believe to this day that the actions of the head of that school and several of its psycho caretakers were direct contributors.

I can't go into details about what happened at Hyde except to to say that the profound, deep, dishonesty practiced by the staff, many of whom I am sure are unqualified to be called such, the cultism, the terrorism inflicted on already disturbed children would result in long prison terms to the practitioners thereof in any reasonable society. Hyde, in my opinion, is a nightmare, a mental torture chamber created by a psychopaths and created to breed acolytes...

Do not send your son to Hyde. If you have already done so and he wants out; do not believe the staff at Hyde. Their entire purpose functions just as the street soldiers of Scientology function to recruit and impress more members... If I were a praying man, I would pray for you and your son; as it is, I can only avail you of the benefit of my experience there and the terrible consequences one faces when allowing these kinds of individuals to oversee the psychological development of a child, especially one already having difficulty in the world.

To the parent... Every once in a while you come across really extreme advocacy for Hyde. I urge you to be wary on this basis alone... There are many children who go through Hyde and come out the other side but that isn't the issue... Those cretins don't know one illness from another from a third and they simply put everyone through the same filter, discarding those who don't pass... If your child is among them, he will be destroyed by the Hyde process... it's Hyde as in Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. these people (I use the term loosely - they are monsters in their own right) are self-appointed cultists, emotional terrorists and liars through and through... the fact that some less vulnerable children survive the experience and come back proselytizing for the cause means nothing... These people and many like them should be shut down and I believe that sooner or later the awful truth about what goes on at Hyde will "out" and people like [Pro-Hyde commenter] here will find some new excuse for it... Don't send your son to Hyde unless you are certain that he is strong enough to withstand the emotional battering he will receive there. They have made themselves very rich on the despair of others and employ their family and friends and other advocates as rewards - just like any cult... These people are dangerous, untrustworthy and eventually I believe they will be seen as criminal.

Reposted from another post from June 2011.
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Hyde Schools / Re: PLEASE HELP!!! Should I send my son to Hyde???
« Last post by survivorami on September 01, 2021, 09:48:28 PM »
No one should be sent to Hyde, ever.
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