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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Charly on October 28, 2007, 06:55:38 PM

Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Charly on October 28, 2007, 06:55:38 PM
Anyone know anything about this place?  It is "Christ-based" and looks really horrible.
Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 07:49:34 PM
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Choose a Program Especially for Your Teen
Choose a Program
Bonneville Canyon Retreat
Cedar Breaks Academy
Clearview
Glacier Mountain Academy
Gravity Matters
High Top Ranch
Integrity House for Girls
Resolution Ranch
Shepherd’s Hill Farm
Sorenson’s Ranch
Stonesoup School
Thayer Learning Center
TLC Summer Boot Camp
Shepherd's Hill Farm
Shepherd’s Hill Farm (SHF) is a co-ed therapeutic Christian program for troubled teens ages 13-17. This outdoor residential therapeutic program and school, located in Georgia, lends itself to an atmosphere conducive for learning and growing spiritually, mentally, emotionally, and physically.

Program Description
At SHF, therapy is not something that is reserved for an office. Therapy is done everywhere and all the time. Thirty full and part time staff members are trained to look for “teachable momentsâ€
Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 07:53:35 PM
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They use a variety of proven therapeutic strategies, straight from the bible, to challenge faulty thinking and encourage positive changes in students’ behavior.


Some programs hide their abusive qualities to the point that some parents might be forgiven for not seeing it in advance.

This one... not so much.

If you can't see the problem here, give up any pretense of being a parent and eat a gun.
Title: Search by Independent Fundamental Baptist Boarding Schools
Post by: lorrispickelmire on October 29, 2007, 02:52:42 PM
I did a search with this search subject and it lead me in the back door to a bunch of these Christ-based programs.  I am a Roloff homes survivor, and know from personal experience that these places are hell on earth.
Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 05:27:09 PM
here's your 1st clue.

"therapeutic Christian program"
Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 29, 2007, 05:34:06 PM
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At SHF, therapy is not something that is reserved for an office. Therapy is done everywhere and all the time. Thirty full and part time staff members are trained to look for “teachable momentsâ€
Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Oz girl on October 30, 2007, 03:31:03 AM
they are a member of something called the christian camp and conference association. These guys look like a trade organisation for regular camps and churches.  Does anyone know if they also have strong links to the industry. There is a chance they don't know about the industry
Title: When you find some info, please add it on Fornits Wiki
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2007, 04:11:33 AM
http://www.fornits.com/wiki/index.php/S ... _Hill_Farm (http://www.fornits.com/wiki/index.php/Shepherds_Hill_Farm)
Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Che Gookin on October 30, 2007, 04:55:08 AM
Quote from: ""Nihilanthic""
Well, Jesus was a carpenter too, but it didn't exactly make him what he was, being the son of god did.


Though to be honest I respect the dude more for being a carpenter than the supposed son of god.
Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2007, 12:24:34 PM
http://shepherdshillfarm.org/faq.html (http://shepherdshillfarm.org/faq.html)

What kind of kids have been treated at SHF? ODD (Oppositionary Defiant Disorder), ADHD/ADD, anger-management, anxiety disorders, personality disorders, behavioral disorders, phobias, at-risk youth, struggling and troubled teens, emotional issues, learning disabilities, psychological problems, special needs, Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, physical disorders, abuse, depression, negative peer culture (gang membership, etc.), and disciplinary problems.

Who cares for the residents at SHF? Agape counselors, administrators, teachers, therapists, psychiatrists, social workers, lay members.

How can I receive information on and keep in touch with my child? SHF progress reports, telephone calls and conferences, visitation, SHF newsletter, contact with staff, and e-mail.

Is SHF a non-profit organization? Yes, SHF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Your tax deductible contribution may be sent to the contact address on this website.

How much does it cost to send my child to SHF? Expenses start around $58,900 per resident/per year (plus the varying costs of medical and special psychological services). This includes all lodging, education, food, entertainment, and hands-on therapeutic discipleship for one full year. SHF currently employs nearly two staff members for each student on campus. This is to adequately minister to the student needs of each student with the highest degree of efficiency.

Can my child receive a scholarship to attend the Discipleship Camp at SHF? Yes, scholarships are sometimes available via the SHF scholarship fund.

What if I can't afford to send my child to SHF? SHF offers Sallie Mae educational loans to parents. Please visit www.slmfinancial.com (http://www.slmfinancial.com) for more information. Our school code is 606160.

What religion/denomination does SHF adhere to? SHF is an interdenominational parachurch ministry. It is designed to be a tool used by the church to meet or bring individuals into a non-threatening environment conducive to lifestyle evangelism and discipleship for the purpose of building, strengthening, and expanding the Kingdom of God and the spiritual, mental, emotional, and physical condition of every student.

What type of security is at SHF? Agape counselors protect the children from physical, emotional, verbal, sexual, and spiritual abuse. 24-hour supervision and support is provided by these able and devoted mentors.

Who teaches the residents? Will they receive a quality education at SHF? SHF's private junior and senior high school, Shepherd's Hill Academy, is fully accredited by the Georgia Accrediting Commission. All teachers who teach at SHF must be state certified and board approved. Shepherd's Hill Academy meets the course requirments of the state of Georgia's Quality Core Curriculum.

Where is SHF located? SHF is nestled in the rural town of Martin, Georgia, located in the low foothills of the Blue Ridge mountains of northeast Georgia. Martin is approximately 85 miles northeast of Atlanta.

Emergency services? SHF has a full-time resident nurse and therapist on staff. All staff are first-aid and CPR certified. Additional certifications include Wilderness First Response. SHF also has 911 accessibility.

What makes SHF so successful in changing the lives of kids? We believe that foremost it is the surrendered lives of our staff to the Lordship of Jesus Christ. The Bible is abundantly clear that God honors the lives and desires of those committed to do His will. The kids are engaged in God’s love, training, and discipline 24-7 by those committed to His will and ways. Modeling Christ’s character is of utmost importance.

How do kids survive in cold weather living in the woods? All shelters built by the kids are equipped with wood burning stoves. Everything we do here is action vs. consequences. Cold weather is a great motivator for kids to keep wood chopped and stoked. Emergency procedures are followed for extreme weather conditions.

Can boys and girls attend SHF who are not Christian? Of course. Biblical principles for raising kids aren’t limited to only those who label themselves “Christian.â€
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 02:15:02 AM
Hi,

I am a former student and survivor of Shepherds Hill Farm.  The place is definitely hell on earth with tons and tons of abuse going on, or at least while I was there.  I am going to return when I have more time and tell my story and list the abusive things that have happened.  I just found out about this website, a friend of mine apparently put it on here.  I also just found out about ISAC and will be contacting them, hopefully they can let me know if I have a legal case.  
I will also update the wiki for SHF extensively when I have time.

SHF robed my family of all their money and my fathers (now deceased) life insurance policy even.  I hope that ISAC can help me save some children from being abused by the Trace Embry and his goons and worshipers.

Thanks and thanks for making a website like this. :cheers:
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 02:53:53 AM
Why did you go to Shepherd's Hill Farm?
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 02:59:20 AM
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I also just found out about ISAC and will be contacting them, hopefully they can let me know if I have a legal case.

Contact Angela Smith from HEAL, she is an attorney.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 03:50:09 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
Why did you go to Shepherd's Hill Farm?

I was a student at a boarding school in Stone Mountain, GA called Gables Academy.  At the time Gables Academy and Shepherds Hill Farm were connected.  The owner owned SHF and sent his trouble students and ones he couldn't handle to SHF.  Of course if the parents wanted and had the hefty $58,900 annual tuition.  One of the counselors  Gables never liked me much, and one day near the end of the year I was sitting outside with a couple other students when said counselor and the pe teacher walked up.  I heard the counselor that did not like me say to the teacher "hey watch this." he walked up to me and hit me in the temple with his flat fist.  The other students and teacher pulled him away and I went inside.  The next day the counselor begged me not to tell anyone as he would lose his job and his life and would be ruined and broke down crying.  A short while after I was unexpectedly sent to SHF.  As soon as I got to SHF, Gables cut ties with SHF and no longer had anything to do with them.  I was at SHF for a little over 2 years..
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 04:01:39 AM
Quote from: "yahar"
Quote from: "Guest"
Why did you go to Shepherd's Hill Farm?

I was a student at a boarding school in Stone Mountain, GA called Gables Academy.  At the time Gables Academy and Shepherds Hill Farm were connected.  The owner owned SHF and sent his trouble students and ones he couldn't handle to SHF.  Of course if the parents wanted and had the hefty $58,900 annual tuition.  One of the counselors  Gables never liked me much, and one day near the end of the year I was sitting outside with a couple other students when said counselor and the pe teacher walked up.  I heard the counselor that did not like me say to the teacher "hey watch this." he walked up to me and hit me in the temple with his flat fist.  The other students and teacher pulled him away and I went inside.  The next day the counselor begged me not to tell anyone as he would lose his job and his life and would be ruined and broke down crying.  A short while after I was unexpectedly sent to SHF.  As soon as I got to SHF, Gables cut ties with SHF and no longer had anything to do with them.  I was at SHF for a little over 2 years..


I should also add however that my dad wanted me to go to SHF.  He knew I had been smoking pot and experimenting with other drugs at the time, and I think he thought I was doing more drugs then I was doing or something.  I was mainly just smoking pot, he seemed to think I was a drug addict though.  He was also a priest and I did not believe in God and called myself a satanist to piss people off.  Trace is very very good with words and is an ex cop.  I believe he talked my dad into believing I needed to be there and that it was helping me. I never told my parents the things that happened because Trace and his goons let us know that our parents knew what went on and agreed to it.  Also Trace had our parents sign over parental guardianship to him and his wife.  If we ever resisted or acted out we would be severely punished with some type of deprivation of the senses or punishment of them.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 04:10:08 AM
Perhaps I should contact an attorney before I post my story here.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 12:47:07 PM
Quote from: "Yahar"
Perhaps I should contact an attorney before I post my story here.


OR

You can stop writing false stories.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Yahar"
Perhaps I should contact an attorney before I post my story here.


OR

You can stop writing false stories.


Excuse me?  None of this is false.  I already have one ex counselor who admits to nearly all of the abuse that happened at SHF.  Usually abuse he handed out himself.  Why do you think it is false and how do you want me to prove it?  Go to shepherdshillfarm.org and you will see they are real and are in Martin, Ga outside of Atlanta.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: "Yahar"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Yahar"
Perhaps I should contact an attorney before I post my story here.
OR

You can stop writing false stories.
Excuse me?  None of this is false.  I already have one ex counselor who admits to nearly all of the abuse that happened at SHF.  Usually abuse he handed out himself.  Why do you think it is false and how do you want me to prove it?  Go to shepherdshillfarm.org and you will see they are real and are in Martin, Ga outside of Atlanta.
Pay no mind to the troll, Yahar. Of course your story has its place here. Thanks for posting all that you have already.

Another thread mentioning Trace Embry: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29324 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29324)
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 02:52:39 PM
I have updated the wiki and also sent my story to HEAL.
That list of abusive things that happened is a list I created and posted on the Richard Dawkins forum about SHF.  I am going to tell other ex students about these websites.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
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Excuse me? None of this is false. I already have one ex counselor who admits to nearly all of the abuse that happened at SHF. Usually abuse he handed out himself. Why do you think it is false and how do you want me to prove it? Go to shepherdshillfarm.org and you will see they are real and are in Martin, Ga outside of Atlanta.

Do you have evidence, excluding your word, that would confirm abuse?
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 03:16:39 PM
I have the word of other students who were there at the time.  I also have the confession of an ex counselor who committed most of the abuse.  I also have another counselor who was an eye witness. I am mainly trying to get the word out so that other ex students can come forward with their stories.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: "Yahar"
I have the word of other students who were there at the time.  I also have the confession of an ex counselor who committed most of the abuse.  I also have another counselor who was an eye witness. I am mainly trying to get the word out so that other ex students can come forward with their stories.

How long ago did you graduate from Sheperd's Hill Farm?
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 03:31:06 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Yahar"
I have the word of other students who were there at the time.  I also have the confession of an ex counselor who committed most of the abuse.  I also have another counselor who was an eye witness. I am mainly trying to get the word out so that other ex students can come forward with their stories.

How long ago did you graduate from Sheperd's Hill Farm?

around 7 years ago, i believe.
Title: Couple's leap of faith brings youngsters hope
Post by: Ursus on November 22, 2009, 03:44:40 PM
Not a whole lot out there in terms of news 'bout the place, though I did find the following piece. Lots of magical thinking going on here...

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Watch the Shepherd’s Hill Farm Promotional Video (http://http://www.shepherdshillfarm.org/video.html)

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IndependentMail.com ANDERSON, SOUTH CAROLINA
Couple's leap of faith brings youngsters hope (http://http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jun/29/couples-leap-faith-brings-youngsters-hope/)
By Heidi Cenac
Posted June 29, 2007 at midnight


MARTIN, Ga. — Price Road's pavement turns to dirt not long before you reach Shepherd's Hill Farm (http://http://www.shepherdshillfarm.org/index.html).

Morning fog hides the mountains in the distance, and the traffic on Ga. 17 is far enough removed that the only audible engine is yours.

A wood sign marks the dirt and gravel driveway into the Christian wilderness program's main campus.

The buildings are simple, but seem like paradise surrounded by rolling green pastures spotted with hay bales.

The office, the owner's home and the cafeteria -- an old Jiffy Burger restaurant -- are all located in trailers.

A church in Burke County, Ga., sent members to build the bathhouse; the other cement-block building is an auto repair shop where the owner is sharing his love of race cars with the students.

An old barn has been turned into a pavilion.

The former farmhouse is now a schoolhouse. And the chapel is located above the stables where horses provide equine therapy.

Owner Trace Embry recently started putting the story of Shepherd's Hill on paper, in hopes of eventually publishing a book about the transformations they've seen, aptly titled "The Miracles of Shepherd's Hill."

Shepherd's Hill itself is a miracle. When Trace and Beth Embry discovered this property, it was an abandoned drug den.

Like many of the students who live here, the property had been discarded because of its past. But with the Lord's help, troubled teens now come here from around the world to discover his saving grace.

"...the plans of the LORD stand firm forever, the purposes of his heart through all generations." Psalm 33:11 (NIV)

In the early 1990s, Mr. Embry and his wife sensed that God wanted them in ministry, so the couple sold their business and belongings. What didn't sell, they gave away. With the money, they moved their family from Chicago to Toccoa Falls College, and paid for the first three years of Bible college.

When they were running low on cash, Mr. Embry, a roofer by trade, would return to Chicago to work on the weekends — sometimes driving through the night to make it back for class.

At the time, all the Embrys knew about their calling was that they would need land and that they weren't starting a traditional church ministry.

So they spent their free time driving around northeast Georgia, looking at land.

"When we first saw it, we thought this is it. This is where God wants us," Mr. Embry said.

There was one problem. The property wasn't for sale. As the site of a major drug operation and brutal murder, it was tied up in the state's legal system.

But the Embrys never gave up, and in April 1994 they noticed a "For Sale" sign at the end of Price Road. The land they picnicked at and prayed over for nearly two years was finally available.

The couple found a phone booth and called the number to get someone to show them the property.

Mr. Embry explained that he knew he was supposed to buy the 80-acre property, but he wasn't sure how he would pay for it. His wife was earning minimum wage, he was a full-time college student, and they were raising three kids. All he could give the seller was a bad check for $200, to hold the land for a week.

The seller agreed, and they met again after a week. But Mr. Embry still didn't have the money.

When the seller asked Mr. Embry what he hoped to do there, Mr. Embry explained his dream: He wanted to build a place where kids could come to know God.

The man sent them to a bank in Lavonia, where they repeated their story to a banker. When they finished, he asked a few questions and told them they would close in a week.

"My wife and I looked at each other and said, 'What just happened here?' " Mr. Embry recalled.

The seller paid a down payment and covered the survey costs. The Embrys sold the trailer they were living in; other people "came out of the woodwork," they said, to help them raise the $4,000 to $5,000 they needed to make the deal work. They continued to pay small amounts until the property was theirs.

"...Their trust should be in God, who richly gives us all we need for our enjoyment." 1 Timothy 6:17 (NLT)

Long before the wilderness camp at Shepherd's Hill started, the Embrys were challenged in their own ability to rely on God's provision.

They moved into a farmhouse on the property with no running water, bathrooms or electricity. Federal agents had pulled the walls out looking for hidden drugs, so the family lived in a 14- by 14-foot room for most of 1994.

"There was nothing there," Mr. Embry said. "It was a shell of a house."

Friends from Toccoa Falls helped them make it habitable. Mr. Embry got a temporary job at McCord-Winn in Lavonia and his wife worked in the admissions office at Toccoa Falls College.

Between the house expenses and the kids, money was tight. At times they would sell old farm equipment for extra cash, but they never missed a mortgage payment, no matter what the circumstances.

"It was like the fishes and loaves. You didn't know how it happened, but it happened," Mr. Embry said.

Almost immediately members of their church started using the land for an equine therapy program. The Embrys also held day camps, taught classes and hosted outdoor music events at Shepherd's Hill.

With both of them working and fixing the house, they weren't giving their kids their full attention. Their vision for the property was starting to lose its shine. Mr. Embry said he felt God telling them to bring his wife home, so they could be the family example they were teaching people about.

They prayed for the faith to bring her home from full-time work, flexible hours so he could go back to school and more money to support their family.

"Overnight, God answered every one of those prayers," Mr. Embry said.

He worked as a subcontractor for the McCord-Winn plant when it ran out of money for temporary employees. The flexible schedule allowed him and his wife to home school their kids. When the factory work ran out, he started roofing houses again, traveling across eight states to work.

"We were like migrant workers," he said. The family traveled state to state, job to job, putting whatever money they earned back into the house and their ministry.

Tests from above continued to come, They battled with the Georgia Department of Transportation, which wanted to put a four-lane highway through the property. They also lost a real estate investment in Chicago Mr. Embry was counting on to fund his retirement.

When God told them to move out of the farmhouse, they refinanced the mortgage and moved into a mobile home. But there was still one crucial lesson to be learned.

The Embrys' fifth child was born with Wolf-Hirschhorn Syndrome, a genetic error that causes malformations in most parts of the body.

The disease is estimated to occur only once in every 50,000 births; the mortality rate is about 34 percent in the first 2 years.

Most of the year 2000 is a blur of trips between hospitals, Mr. Embry said. Their son, Asa, lived only 10ƒ months and during that time, the family learned the true meaning of unconditional love.

Today, Asa is buried at the foot of a cross marking the spot where the Embrys prayed for the land, its ministry and their lives.

"Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind." Romans 12:2 (NIV)

Before Asa was born, Mr. Embry told his family to prepare themselves for blessings beyond their wildest dreams.

About two weeks after the child's death, a school in Atlanta called. Its officials had heard about the camps and equine therapy programs at Shepherd's Hill and wanted to send troubled kids to live on the property.

The Embrys converted the farmhouse into a school, and the wilderness camp was born. Among the first children enrolled was a student named Asa.

"It was like God was telling us we were doing the right thing," Mr. Embry said.

Since that first group of kids, many more teens have benefitted from the Embrys' leap of faith. Some of the youngsters struggled with drugs, others faced deadly diseases and mental illness. Some had been sold into prostitution before arriving at the farm. But at Shepherd's Hill they all share one thing: No one leaves the program the same as when they arrived.

Living in cabins they build themselves, the teens are without electricity, running water and most creature comforts.

A typical day starts with chores at 6 a.m. They attend school from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m.; afternoons are filled with "accountability time," equine therapy, work at the camp site, or attending youth group at a nearby church.

"It's beautiful," said a resident named Charlene, 17. "The love that you get here is amazing."

(Editor's note: We are withholding the last names of Shepherd's Hill residents who are under the age of 18, to protect their privacy.)

Like many of the young women here, Charlene said she never would have pictured herself putting up rafters in a cabin that has tarps for walls. But living in the woods made her appreciate what she has, and Charlene said she was shocked to hear herself tell a therapist that she has everything she needs.

"Any teenager can use this place, not just those with a troubled past," said Brianna, 17. "Any kid can benefit from this."

The girls say they can feel God's presence on the farm. Brianna added that she's never been stronger in her faith than since she arrived at Shepherd's Hill.

The love of the staff and fellow campers is what makes Shepherd's Hill so different, said Saira, 15.

"No matter how much you mess up, they're like, 'You know we still love you.' Out in the world, you don't get that."

"He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." Job 9:10 (NIV)

Rebecca Bombet's daughter was the third girl to enroll at Shepherd's Hill.

She was in psychotherapy to cope with signs of Asperger's Syndrome, an autistic condition that causes social problems, vulnerability to sensory overload, awkward posture and a tendency to take many figures of speech literally.

Ms. Bombet's daughter was on four medications and raging most of the time, before coming to Shepherd's Hill.

By the time she graduated, she was medicine-free, for the first time since age 6, and was making straight As in class.

When Ms. Bombet didn't have enough money to keep her daughter at Shepherd's Hill, she struck a deal with the Embrys and bartered her skills as a clinical nurse specialist.

Her daughter, now grown, has joined the U.S. Army. Ms. Bombet said she has been as blessed by the experience as her daughter.

At the end of the day, she and other staff members give away all the credit for the miraculous transformations they see at Shepherd's Hill.

"That's God running the show," Ms. Bombet said. "We really try to seek God in everything, and try to keep our egos out."


2009 The E.W. Scripps Co.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: "Yahar"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Yahar"
Perhaps I should contact an attorney before I post my story here.


OR

You can stop writing false stories.


Excuse me?  None of this is false.  I already have one ex counselor who admits to nearly all of the abuse that happened at SHF.  Usually abuse he handed out himself.  Why do you think it is false and how do you want me to prove it?  Go to shepherdshillfarm.org and you will see they are real and are in Martin, Ga outside of Atlanta.

Did SHF keep you prisoner against your will, Yahar. On thier site they claim to take participants only on a voluntary basis.

If they did keep you in false imprisonment, what were thier methods of preventing you from escaping?

Thank you
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 04:08:33 PM
Yes, they did hold me against my will as well as all of the other students.  The closest thing away was a gas station over a mile away.  We were told by Trace that he is an ex cop and if any of us somehow do manage to make it that far under 24/7 supervision he will just call the police and they will bring us back to the farm, and we would be punished more.  I repeatedly told them I wanted to leave, and or go home.  They told me no that my father gave them parental guardianship, so I was theres,  and paid for me to be there.  At one point I was supposed to go home and stay home however my father gave me a drug test, which I failed for THC.  I refused to go back to the farm and cried and cried and cried.  When I woke up in the morning two large men were in my room and I saw my dad drive off from the house.  They told me they were bounty hunters hired to bring me back to the farm.  They said I could come calmly or have my wrists and ankles cuffed.  I went calmly figuring I better not fight cops.  This combined with what Trace told us made the other students seem to believe they werent being abused.  They even began to like being there after a while, and became born again and friends with Trace.  I however thought what was going on was abuse but that somehow he was going through loopholes and that it wasnt illegal.  I wasnt sure if it was that or that no one cared or believed me just like Trace said.

However, cars at the top near Traces house were able to be turned on by inserting a cross from a necklace into the ignition (was the rumor).  We got a new student and I told him about the car in secret.  That night he snuck to the top and either used the cross or hot wired the car and stole it.  He made it to Atlanta before he was caught.  When he was caught we were told he was sent to a similar program in Arizona that was more severe because it was the desert.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 04:13:55 PM
Also can you show me where it says it is for volunteers?  That is absolutely 100% false.  I and other students told them we would rather go to jail then be in their camp yet they kept us there.  No one wanted to be there but the parents pay and we are told we, and all other minors have no rights at all.  It is a business.  I called Trace out while there that it was a scam for millions of dollars. He and the others assured us they get very little money.  They tell us all the money goes to paying for the acers of land and things to run the school. They claim to note it all down so they can show the IRS each year.  
$58,900 a year for them to beat me, tell me im evil need jesus, trace is great, feed me beans and beats, and live in a wood shelter in the woods i built with no electricity or running water?  WTF didnt anyone else think this was complete bullshit?
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 04:31:29 PM
You went to the school because you smoked pot?  I don't think you're being forthcoming about why you went there.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 04:34:07 PM
shut up "mr. forthcoming" guest posting troll:feedtrolls:
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 04:35:58 PM
Ahem, my message should show  :feedtrolls:
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Whooter on November 22, 2009, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
You went to the school because you smoked pot?  I don't think you're being forthcoming about why you went there.

This why it is so hard to believe the stories here.  If people cant be upfront about why they were sent to the program how can we believe what they say "about" the program?  We have to listen to such bull shit all the time.  Why cant just one person come here and tell the truth?  Just one to start!
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 05:00:01 PM
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Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
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Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
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Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 05:13:26 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
You went to the school because you smoked pot?  I don't think you're being forthcoming about why you went there.

This why it is so hard to believe the stories here.  If people cant be upfront about why they were sent to the program how can we believe what they say "about" the program?  We have to listen to such bull shit all the time.  Why cant just one person come here and tell the truth?  Just one to start!

I did not say I was sent there for smoking pot.
I was going to middle school in my hometown and made some silly comments/threats about the school to a girl.  The girl told the school and I was expelled and arrested.  The judge put me on probation and told me I had to be in school or I would go to jail, and homeschooling was not an option.  At the time I had grown up with older friends who were trouble makers in the neighborhood.  We smoked pot and drank, I also tried other drugs.  
 The only school that would take me due to my criminal record, was the boarding school Gables in Stone Mountain GA.  I continued to smoke pot with my friends anytime I got to go home for a break.  I also had to go to psychologists to show that I was not a threat or crazy, however this proved to my parents I was doing drugs because I failed drug tests.  
After the counselor at Gables punched me and my parents did not press charges immediately like I told them to, I was sent to SHF and they cut ties.  I believe my parents did not press charges because I was still on probation and my record was not clean so I had to be in school. I believe they sent me to SHF and cut ties with them so that they would have less of a chance of me pressing charges or something.  I believe Trace convinced my parents that I was a drug addict and satanist in order to get him to send me there.  This would have been very easy for Trace.  My father already was scared because I did drugs, denied god, and hung out with people he thought were drug addicts and criminals (though they were just angsty pot heads).  Trace is very good with words and is a preacher of sorts so he was able to connect to my father on that level because my father was a priest.
My mother however did not want me to go to SHF and this always worried SHF it seemed like.  On Christmas one time my parents came from out of town to take me to Church and to take me to eat.  Trace and his wife tried to talk them into not taking me anywhere because I thought the program was BS and always voiced it.  My father was buying into it but my mother got angry and said "I will take my kid if I want!"  Traces wife tried to guard the door and not let my mother leave, but my mom pushed his wife and walked out and told me to get in the car.  Unfortunately however, I was brought back after going to Church and going to eat.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 05:17:36 PM
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Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 05:21:13 PM
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I was going to middle school in my hometown and made some silly comments/threats about the school to a girl.

what threats did you make?
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2009, 05:29:59 PM
Quote from: "Yahar"
Yes, they did hold me against my will as well as all of the other students.  The closest thing away was a gas station over a mile away.  We were told by Trace that he is an ex cop and if any of us somehow do manage to make it that far under 24/7 supervision he will just call the police and they will bring us back to the farm, and we would be punished more.  I repeatedly told them I wanted to leave, and or go home.  They told me no that my father gave them parental guardianship, so I was theres,  and paid for me to be there.  At one point I was supposed to go home and stay home however my father gave me a drug test, which I failed for THC.  I refused to go back to the farm and cried and cried and cried.  When I woke up in the morning two large men were in my room and I saw my dad drive off from the house.  They told me they were bounty hunters hired to bring me back to the farm.  They said I could come calmly or have my wrists and ankles cuffed.  I went calmly figuring I better not fight cops.  This combined with what Trace told us made the other students seem to believe they werent being abused.  They even began to like being there after a while, and became born again and friends with Trace.  I however thought what was going on was abuse but that somehow he was going through loopholes and that it wasnt illegal.  I wasnt sure if it was that or that no one cared or believed me just like Trace said.

However, cars at the top near Traces house were able to be turned on by inserting a cross from a necklace into the ignition (was the rumor).  We got a new student and I told him about the car in secret.  That night he snuck to the top and either used the cross or hot wired the car and stole it.  He made it to Atlanta before he was caught.  When he was caught we were told he was sent to a similar program in Arizona that was more severe because it was the desert.
http://www.cafety.org/index.php (http://www.cafety.org/index.php)
http://www.heal-online.org/childtortureusa.htm (http://www.heal-online.org/childtortureusa.htm)
http://www.isaccorp.org/ (http://www.isaccorp.org/)

Several of the abuses you described are extraordinarily illegal. You need to contact the sheriff from the area, DHS, CPS, the FBI http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm (http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm)

Those groups will walk you through how to do it. Contact the above mentioned with a lawyer to get your case given more consideration.

And, Yasar, dont feed the trolls
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Whooter on November 22, 2009, 06:15:42 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Yahar"
Yes, they did hold me against my will as well as all of the other students.  The closest thing away was a gas station over a mile away.  We were told by Trace that he is an ex cop and if any of us somehow do manage to make it that far under 24/7 supervision he will just call the police and they will bring us back to the farm, and we would be punished more.  I repeatedly told them I wanted to leave, and or go home.  They told me no that my father gave them parental guardianship, so I was theres,  and paid for me to be there.  At one point I was supposed to go home and stay home however my father gave me a drug test, which I failed for THC.  I refused to go back to the farm and cried and cried and cried.  When I woke up in the morning two large men were in my room and I saw my dad drive off from the house.  They told me they were bounty hunters hired to bring me back to the farm.  They said I could come calmly or have my wrists and ankles cuffed.  I went calmly figuring I better not fight cops.  This combined with what Trace told us made the other students seem to believe they werent being abused.  They even began to like being there after a while, and became born again and friends with Trace.  I however thought what was going on was abuse but that somehow he was going through loopholes and that it wasnt illegal.  I wasnt sure if it was that or that no one cared or believed me just like Trace said.

However, cars at the top near Traces house were able to be turned on by inserting a cross from a necklace into the ignition (was the rumor).  We got a new student and I told him about the car in secret.  That night he snuck to the top and either used the cross or hot wired the car and stole it.  He made it to Atlanta before he was caught.  When he was caught we were told he was sent to a similar program in Arizona that was more severe because it was the desert.
http://www.cafety.org/index.php (http://www.cafety.org/index.php)
http://www.heal-online.org/childtortureusa.htm (http://www.heal-online.org/childtortureusa.htm)
http://www.isaccorp.org/ (http://www.isaccorp.org/)

Several of the abuses you described are extraordinarily illegal. You need to contact the sheriff from the area, DHS, CPS, the FBI http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm (http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm)

Those groups will walk you through how to do it. Contact the above mentioned with a lawyer to get your case given more consideration.

And, Yasar, dont feed the trolls
Make sure you are clean yourself before you call because it will trigger an investigation on everyone including yourself.  They will check you out first before anyone else.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: psy on November 22, 2009, 11:16:17 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Make sure you are clean yourself before you call because it will trigger an investigation on everyone including yourself.  They will check you out first before anyone else.

Please ignore this type of thing and the trolls.  You have nothing to be afraid of if you are telling the truth and it is worth it in the long run.  Don't let the program win by letting their minions intimidate you into silence with hollow threats and childish behavior.  You might consider submitting a statement to Isaccorp.org as well as the appropriate authorities.  The reasons you were sent to a program are not relevant to their misdeeds, not is any current "bad" conduct, if any.  Just stick with the facts and you'll be fine.

And a minor note to whoever is posting porn: it's rather pointless as it's not visible to guests, google, or registered users who have opted not to display images (default).
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2009, 12:40:31 AM
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "Guest"
Make sure you are clean yourself before you call because it will trigger an investigation on everyone including yourself.  They will check you out first before anyone else.

Please ignore this type of thing and the trolls.  You have nothing to be afraid of if you are telling the truth and it is worth it in the long run.  Don't let the program win by letting their minions intimidate you into silence with hollow threats and childish behavior.  You might consider submitting a statement to Isaccorp.org as well as the appropriate authorities.  The reasons you were sent to a program are not relevant to their misdeeds, not is any current "bad" conduct, if any.  Just stick with the facts and you'll be fine.

And a minor note to whoever is posting porn: it's rather pointless as it's not visible to guests, google, or registered users who have opted not to display images (default).


Thank you for this
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2009, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: "Yahar"
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "Guest"
Make sure you are clean yourself before you call because it will trigger an investigation on everyone including yourself.  They will check you out first before anyone else.

Please ignore this type of thing and the trolls.  You have nothing to be afraid of if you are telling the truth and it is worth it in the long run.  Don't let the program win by letting their minions intimidate you into silence with hollow threats and childish behavior.  You might consider submitting a statement to Isaccorp.org as well as the appropriate authorities.  The reasons you were sent to a program are not relevant to their misdeeds, not is any current "bad" conduct, if any.  Just stick with the facts and you'll be fine.

And a minor note to whoever is posting porn: it's rather pointless as it's not visible to guests, google, or registered users who have opted not to display images (default).


Thank you for this

Yes, Antigen and Psy's commentary always position that of the industry shill in sharp relief: good and evil.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2009, 01:34:09 PM
FUCK
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
F U C  K
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Ursus on November 30, 2009, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
I have updated the wiki and also sent my story to HEAL.
That list of abusive things that happened is a list I created and posted on the Richard Dawkins forum about SHF.  I am going to tell other ex students about these websites.
A fantastic job updating the Wiki:

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Shepherds Hill Farm (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Shepherds_Hill_Farm)

Shepherd's Hill Farm is a behavior modification facility marketed as a Christian Boarding School located on 2200 Price Road, Martin, Georgia 30557 [1]

This is a "wilderness therapy program" run by a christian fundamentalist and cult leader Trace Embry and his wife Beth Embry. Parental Guardianship is signed over to Trace and a $58,900 tuition a year is paid. At the entrance to Shepherds hill farm is the Embrys house and some other trailers. However about a mile or so down into the forest, away from the eyes of the public and of the parents, is the giant boys camp site, about half a mile or so away in the woods is the girls camp.

The children are forced to cut down and debark trees and build very large cabins to live in with no electricity, or any type of building knowledge, as well as for future students to live in. The students live in these cabins everyday out of the year and in all weather conditions (I did for well over a year)with one tiny wood burning stove per cabin. The wood burning stove adds little to no heat for the size of cabin. Parents were forced to buy their kids expensive sleeping bags for the winter if they wanted their kids to be warm.

The children have no communication with the outside world, or with anyone of the opposite sex. Phone calls home are very rare and visits even less so. All phone calls and letters going in and out are monitored and edited, and limited to 5 minutes. Kids are repeatedly told they are horrible people who will burn in hell forever if not saved and no longer sinful. Homosexuals are mocked and made fun of and made to look like terrible people to the students, as well as any religion other then Christianity. Kids are told that their parents are horrible people and have failed them and that Trace is now their parent. They are also taught in "science" class that evolution is a lie from satan and forced to watch Kent Hovind all day. Other classes included very basic math and reading from the bible.

Kids are punished for any type of "inappropriate behavior". Food deprivation is used in the form of what they call "special meals". Special meals consist of feeding the child a can of some type of cold green vegetable and one can of cold beans with some water. Students are told that this is a perfectly healthy vegan diet and not illegal or abuse. Kids lose pounds and pounds of weight after being on special meals for months. Some children were also taunted with candy bars. One student was forced to sit in a room with candy bars around him in a circle. He was told if any were missing in 2 hours he would be punished. He had already been on special meals for a couple months and looked like a skeleton. When we came back he had eaten a few of the candy bars, even though he cried and screamed he didn't. He was beat, yelled at and given more special meals. Trace made his parents even continue feeding him special meals over Christmas break, including Christmas dinner. "Regular" food is food from food banks and expired milk that the children cook over a stove in the woods at their camp site. They are forced to work for hours and hours in the extreme GA heat or in the extreme cold with rain or snow. They use spanking with a paddle, often leaving bruises for a week or more. Sometimes children are spanked in front of other students or in front of all students and employs. Kids are talked out of taking their medication, and no real nurse nor medical staff is on campus. I witnessed two children have seizures in which Trace and staff held down the student praying for demons to leave them instead of giving the child medicine or calling a medical professional. Sleep deprivation by being woken up in the middle of the night to work. Punished and humiliated publicly for not being able to complete the extreme exercise and manual labor. If a child is told to run a mile or do a number of pushups, and cant make it all the way the student must start over and do it again until finished , and is usually given more punishments in the form of spanking or special meals.

Children are humiliated in front of everyone. One girl was sent to SHF after being raped at her highschool. When the girl got to SHF, Trace asked her in front of everyone if she knew what a whore was. The girl responded "someone who sleeps around with everyone?", and Trace replied "Don't you think you fit the bill of being a whore?" She was then punished by being made to hold two heavy things out to her sides in the snow. If she dropped them down at all she had to start over.

Very much abuse goes on in this place. It needs to be investigated and shut down, otherwise Trace will continue harming children and putting families in debt for the rest of their lives. Trace was supposed to give me therapeutic help, and yet he just used me and the others for abuse and child labor and took all of my families money. I have spoken with other ex students all who have had to undergo years and years worth of psychological help to overcome wounds SHF left them.

They can detain an unknown number of youth of both genders aged 13 to 18.

They offer two residential programs with a length of one year and two years.

This school also offers to have "bounty hunters" pick up your child and bring them to the farm for you. I was picked up by two "bounty hunters" in savannah, GA and brought to the farm. I figured I better not fight the police, they wanted to handcuff me and ankle cuff me.

Program Structure

SHF Wilderness Program

This one year program functions on the basis of positive peer culture (pressure).

The teenagers lives in primitive shelters in the wood, that they build with no electricity or running water, nor proper building knowledge or supervision. Communication with parents is very little and monitored as well. Parents are assured SHF is a wonderful place, and so are visitors. However, parents and visitors are never shown the camps or what really goes on there. Everything they do and all abuse, is done in the name of Jesus and the bible. Trace sees himself as a saint and someone who performs miracles and saves kids lives. He is simply a cult leader with a following in his tiny town. [2].

The Next Step Program

This program can be an extention of the first program. The teenagers are moved to a campus where they can earn privileges like TV and video games, which they have missed the previous year. Also dependent on their progress they can earn the right to a (only happened once) driver's license and a (once)job in the local neighborhood. The students are still punished, and still monitored in the same way. The only difference is that they are allowed to sleep in a house with no heating or insulation, use electricity and watch very little tv. [3].

Education

While I was a student there they had a college student teaching classes. They were unaccredited but became accredited. However before and after the education was horrible. Children are taught evolution is an absolute lie, created by evil secularists. They are forced to watch Kent Hovind videos in "science class" and do absolutely no real science. They offered us elementary mathematics, and reading from the bible. I told my teacher what plate tectonics was and he thought I made it up. He finally believed me when one other student said she remembered hearing about plate tectonics in her public high school.

Living Condition

The first year the teenagers live in very primitive log shelthers that students build themselves with no modern comfort. They also work all day in the heat and extreme cold, in the mud and dirt. They receive only a couple 5-10 minute showers a week. Those who are transferred to the Next Step program live under more humane conditions.

External Links

Info pages
Groups
Message bords

References



Categories: Georgia | Therapeutic Boarding School | Therapeutic Boarding School in Georgia
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2009, 04:25:00 PM
Ursus, we need you on that Wiki.

No more bear shit about "anyone can edit it". Programmies try, regularly. They get reverted. We need information, reports, and evidence on that thing, and last I checked you were the reigning champion of all three.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2009, 11:16:14 AM
John or Yahar has a vendetted out and is trying to get anyone to listen. He was I think on
Scholarship somewhat and it wasn't even close to 58,ooo. I think back then. I keep in contact
With a lot of kids that went through and didn't have any of his complaints.  It's just he's
Gone to the darkside now and anyone or anything Christian he can't stand.  His parents chose
To pay them. They certainly didn't go looking for John. And I won't get into a war of words - just leaving
This comment and won't be back to spar.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2009, 12:28:13 PM
Quote from: "Another Student"
John or Yahar has a vendetted out and is trying to get anyone to listen. He was I think on
Scholarship somewhat and it wasn't even close to 58,ooo. I think back then. I keep in contact
With a lot of kids that went through and didn't have any of his complaints.  It's just he's
Gone to the darkside now and anyone or anything Christian he can't stand.  His parents chose
To pay them. They certainly didn't go looking for John. And I won't get into a war of words - just leaving
This comment and won't be back to spar.

you're to much of a coward to tell us your name.  Youre full of lies just like the programs, dont expect anyone to believe you.  Being against child abuse and fraud has nothing to do with "the dark side" thats star wars. Abusing children, neglecting them, and committing fraud is evil.  You can claim it didn't cost that much but that is a lie.  I guess you can argue with my lawyer eh?
Brainwashed fool.

There are sworn statements by ex students from SHF out now.  I also keep in contact with students and I know of 4 who claim child abuse happened there.  You are probably Emy.  The child of the abusive nurse from SHF.  Fuck off.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2009, 02:07:09 PM
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you're to much of a coward to tell us your name. Youre full of lies just like the programs, dont expect anyone to believe you. Being against child abuse and fraud has nothing to do with "the dark side" thats star wars. Abusing children, neglecting them, and committing fraud is evil. You can claim it didn't cost that much but that is a lie. I guess you can argue with my lawyer eh?  Brainwashed fool.

There are sworn statements by ex students from SHF out now. I also keep in contact with students and I know of 4 who claim child abuse happened there. You are probably Emy. The child of the abusive nurse from SHF. Fuck off.

This website does not gerate allot of traffic because people tell others to fuck off  on a consistant basis.[/b]
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Ursus on December 13, 2009, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: "Another Student"
John or Yahar has a vendetted out and is trying to get anyone to listen. He was I think on
Scholarship somewhat and it wasn't even close to 58,ooo. I think back then. I keep in contact
With a lot of kids that went through and didn't have any of his complaints. It's just he's
Gone to the darkside now and anyone or anything Christian he can't stand. His parents chose
To pay them. They certainly didn't go looking for John. And I won't get into a war of words - just leaving
This comment and won't be back to spar.
Lol. If Yahar has "gone to the darkside now," where might that put you? The black hole of righteousness?

I can see why nobody would divulge any of their complaints to you. You don't exactly strike me as a wellspring of empathy or understanding...
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Ursus on December 13, 2009, 02:38:34 PM
Quote from: "This website does not gerate allot of traffic"
This website does not gerate allot of traffic because people tell others to fuck off  on a consistant basis.
Mmm. Sometimes for good reason.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: derpederpe on January 11, 2010, 12:51:55 AM
It seems a the director of SHF edited the wiki. Did anyone back it up?
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Ursus on January 11, 2010, 01:19:24 AM
Quote from: "derpederpe"
It seems a the director of SHF edited the wiki. Did anyone back it up?
It can be reverted back to the previous version.

The vandalism:

Shepherds Hill Farm

For all you hurting parents, allow me to share with you the heart of Shepherd's Hill Farm. At SHF, our preeminent objective is to obey God each and every day in our own private and professional lives. As director, it is my main priority to encourage all our staff to live their lives congruent with the biblical model. What God does through his obedient creation never ceases to amaze me, our staff, and especially the parents of our residents.

The results are astonishing, as teens' lives transform before everyone's eyes. As hard as it is to believe, even the physical characteristics of the kids change as spiritual, emotional, psychological, and behavioral changes develop. It is, then, our goal to bring the entire family into stride with Christ's will and way. He is the glue that holds families and everything else together. We, at SHF, understand there is a spiritual dimension to the human experience that, if not addressed, negates the full effectiveness of any kind of therapeutic approach to healing.

When it comes to the transformation of troubled, struggling, or teens in crisis, our experience has proven that more is caught than taught. Kids submit to authority better when their authority figures are observed submitting to an Authority greater than themselves.

The constant stimulation of God's love, truth, nurture, and discipline in an authoritative, outdoor, or wilderness-type environment, trains a child's appetites to hunger for more wholesome activities. Our trained professionals are meek, but not weak. We understand the importance of discipline and its combined effectiveness with loving relationships.

Although Shepherd's Hill Academy's Christ centered approach to education operates as any other modern school, the primitive living conditions in the woods relieve kids of the many negative cultural influences that are bombarding them from every direction today. Peer pressure is turned inside out as kids are taught to think critically about the important issues of life. Our culture's faulty thinking patterns, that promote style over substance, are exposed for what they are.

Kids learn to discern and distinguish the difference between intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom–and how they all apply to life and reality. Kids get another chance at childhood, while learning how to properly approach and address the critical issues of adulthood. Peace and sanity return to the family as parents also learn to implement a more Christ-centered and biblically-based approach to raising teens in today's sex-charged, irreverent, entitled, post-modern and relativistic culture. SHF receives no government funding, and is uncompromising in our biblical approach to child-rearing.

My wife, Beth, and I understand the pain involved in sending a child off to an unfamiliar place. We had the unfortunate experience of having to make the decision to terminate life support for one of our own sons. The indescribable pain of ushering a child into the presence of the Lord, we believe, was allowed by God in order that we could more empathetically identify with parents who are forced to make a similar decision. Sending one's own child to a program like Shepherd's Hill Farm for a year is commonly described by parents as being like a death.

But, the good news is that, in the vast majority of cases, it proves to be a new birth instead. May the peace, wisdom, and will of God be with you as you seek His counsel for your family's best interest during this difficult time.

In Christ's Love,

Trace Embry

Director

Shepherd's Hill Farm
[/list]
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: derpederpe on January 11, 2010, 12:02:26 PM
"The principles God uses through the Holy Spirit’s work here at SHF are supported by a two year study by the Commission on Children at Risk. The commission was birthed out of the Dartmouth Medical School, which produced findings, with empirical scientific evidence, supporting the very biblical principles by which SHF has operated from the beginning. The commission put together a book on their findings called, Hardwired to Connect–The New Scientific Case for Authoritative Communities. The book supports, with science, all that Scripture endorses through faith and obedience—including a study that produced empirical evidence for a human being’s biological need for a relationship/connection with his/her biological parents. This same study produced similar evidence for an individual’s need for a relationship/connection with his/her Creator as well!"

Taken from neww blog on their site any info on claims?
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Pile of Dead Kids on January 12, 2010, 02:50:52 PM
Watching that little bitch Trace try to constantly revert back to his crap is funny, but annoying.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Ursus on January 12, 2010, 04:29:52 PM
Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids"
Watching that little bitch Trace try to constantly revert back to his crap is funny, but annoying.
I'd say he's kinda like the Energizer bunny, banging his righteous godly drum...
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2010, 07:50:18 PM
WAY OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE ABOUT 60 MILES FROM WHERE I'M AT, (NO. WEST GEORGIA).
GREAT PLACE TO DO YOUR BUSINESS OF CORPORAL PUNISHMENT. SEEMS ALL THESE PLACES ARE
WAY OUT OFF THE BEATEN TRACK.
YA KNO THE MOVIE W/ THE BANJO, BACK IN THE 70"s W/ BURT AND THE BOYS. DAR DAR DURN DURN DURN DURN....
SUM'IN LIK DAT.
GOT A FREIND THAT HAS INFO ON THIS PLACE, I'LL GET OR HAVE HIM POST IT.                :shamrock:
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Pile of Dead Kids on January 15, 2010, 12:42:12 PM
Better question, what would it take to get the cops involved with this one?

Or is that part of Georgia just that corrupt?
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2010, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids"
Better question, what would it take to get the cops involved with this one?
Or is that part of Georgia just that corrupt?

I a'reckon if yu in de God bis'nis yu ar wit de po'lic.....UM uh that rite.....Mr. Boss'man from Shepards Hill.
We go'in to find out a'bou yu, real quik now......I gar-en-tee just like dat cag'in cook rom naw'lins.
Gon'a get'cha .......dar dar durn durn durn.......ban'jo com'in......yeehawww.....gits sum son........
EH UMMMM Excuse me,
Damn near lost my mind....were in the process of getting info....not that it's my job...but hey I live
right up the road....so why not help.        Danny
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: quest on January 15, 2010, 07:17:33 PM
:feedtrolls:  :shamrock:
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: blckmetal on February 25, 2010, 08:11:36 PM
Anymore info on this hell hole?  This place needs to get shut down.  I dont understand how the government allows these places to exsist.
Title: "The New Scientific Case for Authoritative Communities"
Post by: Ursus on February 25, 2010, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: "derpederpe"
"The principles God uses through the Holy Spirit’s work here at SHF are supported by a two year study by the Commission on Children at Risk. The commission was birthed out of the Dartmouth Medical School, which produced findings, with empirical scientific evidence, supporting the very biblical principles by which SHF has operated from the beginning. The commission put together a book on their findings called, Hardwired to Connect–The New Scientific Case for Authoritative Communities. The book supports, with science, all that Scripture endorses through faith and obedience—including a study that produced empirical evidence for a human being’s biological need for a relationship/connection with his/her biological parents. This same study produced similar evidence for an individual’s need for a relationship/connection with his/her Creator as well!"

Taken from neww blog on their site any info on claims?
I'm afraid that's for real. Whether it's "sane" ... is another question entirely.
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2010, 10:27:25 PM
Hey,
 Pile of Dead Kids and Ursus can you folks give me some direction here on what is up with place.
I really do not live that far from Shepard. Would like to see poking around if I could help but want some
background first. Yes I have read the post here pretty good just wondering if there was more else where.
 :shamrock:  :shamrock: Thanks......Danny..
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: blckmetal on February 25, 2010, 10:42:49 PM
There is this very long and informative testimony by an ex student who was there for 3 years.
http://www.heal-online.org/shepfarm.htm (http://www.heal-online.org/shepfarm.htm)

and the fornits wiki
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title ... _Hill_Farm (http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Shepherds_Hill_Farm)
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: blckmetal on March 10, 2010, 06:44:51 PM
http://http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/shepherds_hill_farm_is_a_hell-.php

and

http://http://realityismyreligion.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/shepherds-hill-farm-the-great-child-abuse-secret/
Title: Re: Shepherd's Hill Farm- Martin, GA
Post by: Ursus on June 14, 2010, 10:20:53 AM
Breaking News
Posted: Jun 11, 2010

Shepherd's Hill Farm
Martin, GA

Shepherd's Hill Farm Names Ordained Minister Chaplin (http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/publish/ShepherdsHillFarmBN_100611.shtml)

Contact:
Trace Embry
Director
706-779-5766
http://www.shepherdshillfarm.org (http://www.shepherdshillfarm.org)

Walter Reed came to Shepherd's Hill Farm over 6 years ago to volunteer to play music at the dedication ceremony of the Shepherd's Hill Farm Chapel. He is now a full time staff member of three years, and has been recently appointed Shepherd's Hill Farm, Christian Boarding School's Chaplain. He received his ordination papers four years ago from the Word of Life Christian Center in Carnesville, GA. His brother-in-law, who performed the ordination, during the ceremony, told him "God called you 25 years ago; I'm just giving you the license to do it." Being an Ordained Minister and Chaplain is something God placed on Walter's heart over 22 years ago.

Walter ministers to the struggling teens at Shepherd's Hill Farm Christian Boarding School. He oversees the Chapel schedule for the resident teens and staff members of Shepherd's Hill Farm. The Chapel is the venue for music lessons, worship services, Bible teachings, individual prayer time and communion. Many other cherished events take place in the Chapel at Shepherd's Hill Farm Christian Boarding School and Wilderness Program for troubled teens.

Shepherd's Hill Farm is a Christian Boarding School; outdoor residential program located on an 80 acre wilderness facility in Martin, GA for troubled youth ages 13-17 struggling with a variety of negative behaviors. We are equipped with a completely devoted Christian staff that uses biblical principles in a loving authoritative community environment.


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Title: Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole
Post by: Ursus on June 26, 2010, 03:50:18 PM
Copying out blckmetal's link from above (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23779&p=368063#p358271) for posterity's sake; this one's from a science blog by PZ Myers:

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Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole (http://http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/shepherds_hill_farm_is_a_hell-.php)

Category: Religion
Posted on: February 27, 2010 9:39 AM, by PZ Myers


Got problem kids? Man, when they hit those teenage years they all get rebellious and willful, and start thinking independently, and often start doing things their parents would rather they didn't. This is one of the tough responsibilities of being a parent — you have to be willing to let your children grow into independent human beings.

But let's say you never got that memo, and you think your job is to raise children who are just like you: insecure, a little bit angry, shackled tightly into a fearful belief system that says all human beings are evil. Independent thinking is the last thing you want in your obedient little repressed child-slave! Well, there's help for you: Shepherd's Hill Farm (http://http://www.shepherdshillfarm.org/), an accredited Christian boot camp that will stomp his wild soul right back down into the mud of conformity and obedience.

It's way out in the middle of nowhere, so there will be no place for the wayward teen to escape to…and no one to hear them scream.

Shepherd's Hill Farm is a counseling center, so they will also take care of the mental health of your child. Trace Embry, the director, knows absolutely nothing about mental health and even gives dangerous advice against all the evidence, but you don't have to worry — he's a very vocal Christian. God will forgive him.

We have testimonials from (inmates) residents of the camp (http://http://www.heal-online.org/shepfarm.htm) about the other benefits of attending. Does your child have special medical needs, like seizures? They will take his medicine away, but their staff is well-trained in being able to simultaneously wrestle a child to the ground and pray for him. Is your child a bit on the hefty side? He will get 'special meals' — a can of beans, a bit of vegetable, and a piece of bread — until they reach that ascetic ideal. Your child will be 'brainwashed in the blood of the lamb,' so it's all OK — even the beatings serve to transfigure hooligans into robots for Jesus.

Don't worry that your child might fall behind in his classes. They teach science at Shepherd's Hill Farm!

In their "science" classes we were indoctrinated with the christian story. We were forced to watch Kent Hovind videos, as if he and all his "theorys" have not already been debunked.[/list]

He won't fall behind: he'll be propelled backwards, as if they'd strapped a rocket to his ass and aimed him right at the dark ages.

For all of this — the cans of beans, the non-existent medical care, the anti-education, the beatings — what do you think you should pay? Nothing? They should pay you? Wrong! You will cough up almost $60,000 a year for the privilege of tossing your child into the hands of a dumb redneck psychopath with a farm in the wilderness. It's a Christian wilderness, though. That's the added value you're paying for, and I'm sure it's worth every penny...if you're one of those parents who can't abide children with personalities or ideas of their own.


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Title: Comments for "Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole," #s 1-20
Post by: Ursus on June 26, 2010, 08:39:12 PM
Comments (http://http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/shepherds_hill_farm_is_a_hell-.php) left for the above blog entry, "Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23779&p=368070#p368063)" (by PZ Myzers; Feb. 27, 2010; Pharyngula blog), #s 1-20:


#1 Posted by: hje | February 27, 2010 9:50 AM
#2 Posted by: Zeno | February 27, 2010 9:53 AM
it (http://http://zenoferox.blogspot.com/2009/01/knock-knock.html).[/list]
#3 Posted by: Eileen | February 27, 2010 9:53 AM
#4 Posted by: Aquaria | February 27, 2010 10:02 AM
#5 Posted by: robertdw | February 27, 2010 10:03 AM
#6 Posted by: MikeMa  | February 27, 2010 10:03 AM
#7 Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | February 27, 2010 10:05 AM
#8 Posted by: Walton | February 27, 2010 10:08 AM
#9 Posted by: jennyxyzzy | February 27, 2010 10:12 AM
#10 Posted by: Rawnaeris | February 27, 2010 10:21 AM
#11 Posted by: Noni Mausa | February 27, 2010 10:28 AM
(plus the varying costs of medical and special psychological services). This includes all lodging, education, food, entertainment, and hands-on therapeutic discipleship for one full year. SHF currently employs nearly two staff members for each student on campus. This is to adequately minister to the student needs of each student with the highest degree of efficiency."

Wait a minute, hold on ... the "varying costs of medical and special psychological services?" As administered by who? will your family insurance cover it? and is there any limit to those costs? Yikes.

I bet they want to be paid upfront too.

Noni[/list]
#12 Posted by: Noni Mausa | February 27, 2010 10:32 AM
#13 Posted by: Aquaria | February 27, 2010 10:39 AM
That rules out the lowest three quintiles, maybe four, unless people can somehow get a bank loan, or sell their house... or use up the kid's college savings.

The kid quoted near the end of PZ's post said that his dad borrowed against a life insurance policy. He did' his family was left with next to nothing.[/list]
#14 Posted by: Aquaria | February 27, 2010 10:42 AM
#15 Posted by: Pacal | February 27, 2010 10:45 AM
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only 85 miles to Atlanta, easy walking distance.
Walk 50 miles and tell me it's "easy walking distance"[/list]
#16 Posted by: Noni Mausa | February 27, 2010 10:52 AM
#17 Posted by: Legion | February 27, 2010 10:56 AM
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Because we believe Holy Scripture to be the final authority for truth, life, and family living, our philosophy is to heed God’s mandate and principles for child-rearing revealed within.
Plus this...
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...no staff member will force-feed his or her faith on any resident. And, nobody at SHF will discriminate against a resident who chooses not to have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
= contradiction.[/list]
#18 Posted by: raven | February 27, 2010 11:00 AM
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Protecting the Rights of TeensThere is a network of experts and families forming around the GULAG that is ... Children at the camp were afraid to tell the police how the staff tortured and ... Those who don't will end up dead like Nicholas Contreraz, or imprisoned like ... In search of a Mormon School for "Troubled Teenagers" I found a lot of ...
[/list]
#19 Posted by: PenguinFactory | February 27, 2010 11:13 AM
#20 Posted by: raven | February 27, 2010 11:18 AM
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BOOT CAMP FOR KIDS: Torturing Teens for Fun and Profit -- Cruelty ...House Passes Legislation to Stop Child Abuse in Teen Boot Camps and other Residential .... Christian discipline? 2 arrested in alleged dragging of girl behind van at boot camp, ..... Tightening up on the stranglers--142 youths dead in one decade ... The slow, painful, pointless death of Nicholaus Contreraz, age 16, ...
One source says 142 kids have died in these camps in a decade.[/list]


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Title: Comments for "Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole," #s 21-40
Post by: Ursus on June 29, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
Comments (http://http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/shepherds_hill_farm_is_a_hell-.php) left for the above blog entry, "Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23779&p=368070#p368063)" (by PZ Myzers; Feb. 27, 2010; Pharyngula blog), #s 21-40:


#21 Posted by: ckitching | February 27, 2010 11:19 AM
#22 Posted by: Draken | February 27, 2010 11:34 AM
[Trace Embry] would also say "Besides who would believe you, a troubled drug addict teen or me, an owner of a successful program and an ex cop and preacher?"

I'd go for the drug addict anytime.[/list]
#23 Posted by: onethird-man | February 27, 2010 11:38 AM
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Our ability to think and reason is rooted in the spiritual nature of our being. As teens understand the spiritual origins of our nation and the world, they are challenged to choose and think for themselves about the reality of the inevitable issues of life such as origin, meaning, morality, and destiny, in light of truth as it relates to facts, and not just theory. As the teens acknowledge the validity of being created with a purpose, in the image of an almighty and loving God, as opposed to a happenstance evolution from a lower life form, expectations for themselves can only increase.
...from the last part of the wilderness program. The gist? "We know they are thinking for themselves when they totally agree with us and do not argue."[/list]
#24 Posted by: vertalio | February 27, 2010 11:41 AM
#25 Posted by: tnkrbl | February 27, 2010 11:52 AM
#26 Posted by: Jordan | February 27, 2010 11:58 AM
#27 Posted by: RickR | February 27, 2010 12:48 PM
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This includes all lodging, education, food, entertainment, and hands-on therapeutic discipleship
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.[/list]
#28 Posted by: Haruhiist | February 27, 2010 12:53 PM
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Does your child have special medical needs, like seizures? They will take his medicine away, but their staff is well-trained in being able to simultaneously wrestle a child to the ground and pray for him.
Ok, so why aren't there complaints about this with the government? Or, if there are, why is the government not doing anything? Wouldn't this fall under medical neglect or something?

Combined with all the other stuff, why are institutions like this legal? It boggles the mind almost as much as the thought that parents would willingly send their child there...[/list]
#29 Posted by: Athena | February 27, 2010 1:18 PM
#30 Posted by: raven | February 27, 2010 1:25 PM
Quote
Ok, so why aren't there complaints about this with the government? Or, if there are, why is the government not doing anything? Wouldn't this fall under medical neglect or something?
That is silly. The government is waiting for a few kids to get killed. It is inevitable. There seems to be something in the bible about not learning from history until you have repeated the mistakes a few hundred times.[/list]
#31 Posted by: timrowledge | February 27, 2010 1:51 PM
#32 Posted by: Molly, NYC | February 27, 2010 2:02 PM
Sunset used to have quite a lot of them.) Took me years to figure out why.

It's that the kind of control-freak parents who really mind that their kids don't go with their parent's chosen life-styles read these magazines. For those parents' purposes, these kids are banished because for reasons akin to banishing an old sofa because it doesn't go with the curtains.[/list]
#33 Posted by: immichaelyoung | February 27, 2010 2:13 PM
Franklin County, Georgia (http://http://www.franklincountyga.com/modules/news/). Franklin County has a branch office (http://http://dfcs.dhr.georgia.gov/portal/site/DHS-DFCS/menuitem.8237042e9dbda3aa50c8798dd03036a0/?vgnextoid=a57d8cf9b3b4ff00VgnVCM100000bf01010aRCRD&vgnextchannel=c1b92b48d9a4ff00VgnVCM100000bf01010aRCRD) of the state Division of Family and Children Services, which is the agency which investigates claims of child abuse.

I point this out so that if someone has direct particular evidence of abuse, they can urge an investigation to the agency with the power to conduct one.[/list]
#34 Posted by: Brownian, OM | February 27, 2010 2:17 PM
private religious school (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_John%27s_School_of_Alberta) with corporal punishment (but with snowshoeing! Yay.) when I stopped doing homework (meh!) and stole a bottle of potassium permanganate from the school (stupid and bad!) in Grade 8.

Good thing for me my folks were kind of cheap and virtue ain't free.[/list]
#35 Posted by: emote_control | February 27, 2010 3:01 PM
#36 Posted by: jcmartz.myopenid.com | February 27, 2010 3:21 PM
#37 Posted by: Keanus | February 27, 2010 3:40 PM
site (http://http://www.heal-online.org/childtortureusa.htm), whose veracity I can't vouch for, but which appears credible, at least on this, lists dozens of such "schools" or "camps". If all valid, they do indeed form a gulag comparable to anything the Soviets ran.[/list]
#38 Posted by: deadwildroses.wordpress.com | February 27, 2010 3:53 PM
starting our own little patch of hell (http://http://deadwildroses.wordpress.com/2010/02/27/yfc-the-christian-rubberstamp-dipped-in-aboriginal-blood/), minus the rural setting.

A mendacious christian organization has bamboozled two levels of government into putting public funding into a rec centre that will be used for spreading jebus's word to at-risk First Nations children. It is quite reprehensible, but not to the standards set by the SHF christian gulag.[/list]
#39 Posted by: Knockgoats | February 27, 2010 4:02 PM
Well we all know what shepherds do, right? Raise a herd of dumb animals in order to make a profit when they are sent to slaughter. - timrowledge

But, to be fair, they usually fleece them repeatedly before slaughter![/list]
#40 Posted by: ckitching | February 27, 2010 6:03 PM
wrote about that (http://http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/canada_is_sharing_in_christian.php) a couple days ago.[/list]


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Title: Comments for "Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole," #s 41-60
Post by: Ursus on June 30, 2010, 10:23:49 AM
Comments (http://http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/shepherds_hill_farm_is_a_hell-.php) left for the above blog entry, "Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23779&p=368070#p368063)" (by PZ Myzers; Feb. 27, 2010; Pharyngula blog), #s 41-60:


#41 Posted by: SmartLX | February 27, 2010 6:24 PM
#42 Posted by: DLC | February 27, 2010 8:07 PM
#43 Posted by: Rorschach | February 27, 2010 8:28 PM
#44 Posted by: Gyeong Hwa Pak, Das unzufriedene Pikachu | February 27, 2010 8:42 PM
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This place's name is a combination of "Silent Hill" and "Shepherd's Glen", so anyone who plays survival horror games will know it's bad news.
Silent Hill was founded by a religious cult that fused Christianity with a pagan religion. (Most Christian sects nowadays have pagan elements in them.) According to SH4, children were punished for not adhering to the cult rule. (Say, there was a baby that died because of that.) In SH5, people were "recruited" through torture and children were sacrificed to their God. SH6 is not about a cult, but one can draw a comparison of how God is an idealization of a person imagination and need of a savior in much of the same Harry was to Cheryl.

/horror nerd[/list]
#45 Posted by: bulletproofcourier | February 27, 2010 10:51 PM
#46 Posted by: DLC | February 28, 2010 12:18 AM
#47 Posted by: Rorschach | February 28, 2010 12:21 AM
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Sorry, but bad things get done all the time and go undetected.
Your analogy needs a crutch.
How is paying 60000.- a year for someone to "educate" your child in any way shape or form similar to Incest ?[/list]
#48 Posted by: Jadehawk, OM | February 28, 2010 12:54 AM
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yeah, and nobody could keep their daughter locked in a secret dungeon under their home and father several children with her, either.
dude, no.

Unless Fritzl was advertising what he was doing, and his children were allowed to leave, told their story, but STILL nothing were done about it, THEN this comparison might work.[/list]
#49 Posted by: mick.long | February 28, 2010 1:04 AM
#50 Posted by: Miki Z | February 28, 2010 2:23 AM
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The sheep on the shoulders of his master is a wayward sheep. This is a sheep that not only wonders from the flock into dangerous territories; but, it wonders habitually.
Emphasis mine, spelling theirs.[/list]
#51 Posted by: krypton | February 28, 2010 3:50 AM
#52 Posted by: Q.E.D | February 28, 2010 6:43 AM
#53 Posted by: Miki Z | February 28, 2010 7:28 AM
#54 Posted by: eviltwit | February 28, 2010 9:06 PM
#55 Posted by: anon | March 6, 2010 9:10 AM
#56 Posted by: anon2 | March 7, 2010 7:45 PM
#57 Posted by: S P | March 31, 2010 12:21 PM
#58 Posted by: stevieinthecity#9dac9 | March 31, 2010 12:27 PM
#59 Posted by: a_ray_in_dilbert_space | March 31, 2010 12:34 PM
#60 Posted by: Gyeong Hwa Pak, Das unzufriedene Pikachu | March 31, 2010 12:48 PM
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Not very scientific, or journalistic...of couse the word Blog by nature means it is widely variable in content, so I get it
For all those who accuse this blog of having no science content (like SP up there), did you actually look at the front page? There were 4 post relating directly to science.[/list]


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Title: Comments for "Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole," #s 61-68
Post by: Ursus on July 01, 2010, 05:02:23 PM
Comments (http://http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/shepherds_hill_farm_is_a_hell-.php) left for the above blog entry, "Shepherd's Hill Farm is a hell-hole (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23779&p=368070#p368063)" (by PZ Myzers; Feb. 27, 2010; Pharyngula blog), #s 61-68:


#61 Posted by: stevieinthecity#9dac9  | March 31, 2010 12:55 PM
#62 Posted by: S P | March 31, 2010 4:05 PM
#63 Posted by: Twentyfathoms | April 18, 2010 9:50 PM
#64 Posted by: TC | May 27, 2010 10:06 AM
#65 Posted by: yeah.. | May 27, 2010 10:33 PM
http://www.saferchildren.net/wilderness ... lhill.html (http://www.saferchildren.net/wilderness/capitolhill.html)

My parents paid a tuition that is as high as some Ivy League schools. Was I left with a good education, morals, self esteem, or anything else? No, not even close.
Homosexuality we were taught is an abomination, and unnatural. Homosexuals will go to hell for "going to brown town on each other" to suffer with those of other religious beliefs.
In school we did very, very little work. We watched Kent Hovind videos, and "Hell's Bells" (about Satan controlling the media and everything secular). My teacher did not even know what plate tectonics were. He swore I made the whole thing up when I described it to him.
My family used to be fairly well off. However, Trace used his Christian powers to have my father give him all of our money for tuiton. My mother can hardly afford to feed herself now. I was in my eyes, my mother, family and friends eyes abused in the name of science and mental health. I have kept in contact with 5 other ex students (as many as I can find). All who claim to have been abused at SHF and claim they were not helped in any way. If you look at Peter Harris blog about this you will see an ex student by the name K. Hicks left a comment detailing his account at SHF and the abuse he was subjected to.
When I was there they had one nurse who lived on campus in a trailer far from where we lived. The staff who were with us 24/7 were college students with no training or qualification. What good is one brainwashed nurse when you are running a facility that is supposed to treat children with severe mental issues? The children are also encouraged to stop taking their medication, and to be skeptical of science, doctors and medicine.
These children do not need a self appointed guru cult leader teaching them the ways of jeebus. They need real help, from real doctors, with real degrees, who use real science, that is backed up by peer reviewed medical journals.
For all this money in my eyes I was abused, stripped of my identity and basic human rights, starved, beat, humiliated, made to live in unsafe living conditions in a wood hut I built with no electricity, or running water, or contact with outside medical services, or legal services. Children have rights and freedoms too. They are people and we have to protect them from these places.

Now granted for fairness sake I will say this. I was a student there years ago in the early stages of the camp opening. The camp may have changed some over the years or may not have. I do not know. I do know what went on there during the years I was a student there. I believe that the time that the other students, and I suffered there counts for something. Even if it has changed for the better.

In solidarity with all the oppressed around the world,
Ex student'(s) of SHF.[/list]
#66 Posted by: Link (http://https://me.yahoo.com/a/0b1o7bZ5ydUEy_fCTk7qL272BoeYYLfkCrpxRJsCqeMRJEQ-#72e80) | May 30, 2010 12:28 PM
#67 Posted by: rsspug | June 19, 2010 12:34 PM
#68 Posted by: daveb | September 7, 2010 11:28 PM
ARTICLE AND COMMENTS ARE NOT TRUE! I know a number of parents who have had their teen in this program, and some that still do, and this article and its comments have no basis in truth. It is an atheist ranting against anything (anything) Christian, and others chiming in beause they hate Christians. That's all! It is sad that people have a public platform to make such false, hateful and spiteful comments. I guess all we can do is pray for them. Like Paul, who killed and persecuted Christians, maybe someday God will also show them the light. On the other hand, I also wish there was an ACLU-type advocacy that would take on cases like this and sue each of them on the part of Shepherd's Hill for libel and defamation. Perhaps people would reconsider before defaming a good organization that's just trying to help youth and their parents. I guess these people would prefer to see these troubled kids end up in jail, addicts on the streets, or dead. I know that my son would have been if we hadn't gotten him into a similar program.[/list]


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Title: Shepherds Hill Farm – "The Great Child Abuse Secret"
Post by: Ursus on September 10, 2010, 11:33:51 AM
See also Peter Harrison's piece on Shepherd's Hill Farm and anhedonia, "Shepherds Hill Farm – 'The Great Child Abuse Secret' (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30944&p=378235#p374149) " (from his most excellent Reality Is My Religion (http://http://realityismyreligion.wordpress.com/) blog), in the following thread (third post in):

ANHEDONIA (Trace Embry's interpretation thereof)
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30944 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30944)[/list]