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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 04, 2003, 11:28:00 AM »
Again, at SAFE, we only dealt with kids with drugs problems.  I was not aware that there was treatment for those kids who have parents with unrealistic expectations.  Do you sense my sarcasm?  I hope so.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 04, 2003, 11:20:00 AM »
I am not a lawyer, nor did I pretend to be.  However, if a minor needs treatment and they are not given treatment, that is parental neglect in the eyes of the law, not a breach of the child's civil liberties.  Do you even believe what you are saying?  Children under 18 are not equals to their parents.  I would think you would know this by now.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 04, 2003, 11:16:00 AM »
One other thing-Is your family supposed to allow you to do whatever you want just because you say so, even though because of your own actions you are harming yourself and making their life a living hell?  You need to grow up!

Start basing your life on "objective reality".

At SAFE, all the staff were trained in approved physical intervention techniques, by outside, third-party trainers.  But that is not what you want to know.  Did people get hurt?  On ocassion, staff and clients were hurt, including myself.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 04, 2003, 11:04:00 AM »
You are making this too easy for me.  Thank you for setting me up.  Lets go back to RSC, since you brought it up.  You got yourself there by the choices you made prior to treatment-DRUGS.  you chose to stay there longer than necessary by not following the rules.  Even while you were there, you willingly kept yourself from the simple joys in life of watching TV, talking on the phone, being able to take a day off, just because you did not want to did some very simple basic things.  Does that sound like a good decision to you?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 04, 2003, 10:11:00 AM »
Imprisonment: Being in a treatment center against your will is not imprisonment.  I have done plenty of things in my life that I had to do or needed to do that were the complete opposite of what I wanted to do.  That again is not imprisonment.  Every single client, from the kid sitting on the front row, first chair to the fifth phaser would rather not be there.  

Mistreatment:  If a child is hurting themselves, others, or destroying property, and after verbal intervention does not work, physical intervention is not only warranted, it is necessary for the protection of the person and the group as a whole.

Let me ask you this, did you ever think that following the rules might acutally be beneficial?
I know you were asked to do such terrible things like talk about yourself, and be honest, and learn a different way of living.  

I did work with group staff members that were in Straight and they did state that "back on my program" that misbehaviors were dealt with by other group members.  I recognize that this did happen at the Straight locations that they were treated.  However, at SAFE this never happened.  

I can not say this enough.  I can and will only speak to what I know, which is the 2 1/2 years I worked at SAFE.  What I know of Straight only comes from what I heard about from group staff members that were there.

"Tis hard for an empty bag to stand upright."
-Ben Franklin


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 03, 2003, 06:42:00 PM »
That looks like the definition of imprisionment to me.  I am assuming that you are trying to make a point, which is?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 03, 2003, 06:31:00 PM »
Ginger,

I think I missed your question.  What would you like to know?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 03, 2003, 04:57:00 PM »
Actually to work there you do not have to be a graduate of the program or even be a recovering person.  Like many of my professional colleagues, I was a Certified Addictions Professional.  That is a stringent certification process that tests a counselor's knowledge and ability in several areas.  It allows me to testify in court as an expert witness.  So that is how I know what I am talking about.  I was there when Straight closed and SAFE opened.  I was gone long before the WAMI program.

I do agree however, that during my time at SAFE, the owner of the program was completely unqualified to be a front-line counselor or even a clinical director.  

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 03, 2003, 10:19:00 AM »
I have no idea what went on in any Straight program, nor do I have any idea what went on after I left SAFE.  However, I can speak at length about the 2 1/2 years I did work at SAFE and nothing happened that could or would be remotely construed as abuse, imprisonment, or any prescription med. problems.  It simply did not happen.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: November 02, 2003, 05:49:00 PM »
I never abused, imprisoned, or mistreated anyone during my time at SAFE, nor did I see anyone abused, imprisoned, or mistreated.  What makes you think that I did?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I am an exsafe counselor
« on: October 30, 2003, 05:29:00 PM »
As bad as I feel for everyone's individual family situation, I can not help but simply say that have got it all wrong.  During the time that I worked there, I was proud of the work I did with kids.  I have not worked there for several years and I still have parents and kids contact me thanking me for how there lives are better.

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