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Quote from: "Horatio."
Quote from: "DannyB II"
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
That's the best you have Dan?

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Wayne, do your fucking research. Rape victims never communicate with their victimizers like you have with me. I just wanted to say thank-you. You were everything I knew you would be. One thing you really do well, Wayne, is totally fuck yourself over and over and over. Have fun with your new toy.
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Wayne got you to admit to raping Yvette Portella

I thought it was brilliant

Danny Bennison revealed

Did you bother to ask Yvette Portella if in fact, she was raped. She is available to be deposed. I didn't think so? This is why most people do not take you seriously Wayne. You are desperate and you will say anything to defame Danny.


Wayne remember this statement you deleted, but before you did, it was quoted to another comment. Wayne where are your 5 people? : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30841&start=60


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Re: Wayne Kernochan

Postby Whooter » January 6th, 2011, 9:23 pm

    Wayne Kernochan wrote:

        Whooter wrote:Danny, I was laughing because it is so far out in left field that no publisher would ever touch it. The guy must be on some psychotic drug to think all those quotes have been verified and are publishable. It would take years to get all those people to verify the accuracy of the story and release it legally and pass it through Elans' lawyers unless he plans to not use anyone's real names and use a fake program name. Someone did the same thing here on fornits a few years ago, its just a prank.



        ...

   Wayne Kernochan wrote:
    I plan on using real names. Elan's lawyers wont be involved until after its published. And, I have sworn statements from 5 residents I was there with. They weren't hard to find. I've been working on this book for three years. Like I said, I have my ducks in a row




You dont know what you are talking about, Wayne. I could write a book titled "Microsoft Founder abused me". I could find 5 ex-employees to side with me (for potential royalty kick backs). Then I could write whatever I wanted about Bill Gates and create a nice juicy book and make millions. The problem is that no publisher would ever touch it or expose themselves to a law suit that would cripple them. You will have to notify Elan of your intentions and have them sign off on the book (saying they have no evidence to dispute what you say) prior to publishing it. If you use peoples real names they need to be notified also and the publisher needs to be comfortable that they will not sue (or cannot sue them).

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Tacitus' Realm / Rush-Limbaugh-Clear-Channel-Bain-Capital
« on: March 03, 2012, 01:27:24 PM »
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/0 ... in-Capital

Daily KOS
Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 06:01 PM PST
Rush Limbaugh/Clear Channel/Bain Capital

WOW!  No one has posted this as yet so I will.  Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, et al, the cavalcade of conservative heavy hitters air on Clear Channel.  And guess who owns much of Clear Channel?  Bain Capital!!!!

Pressure put on advertisers to pull out of Rush Limbaugh is excellent.  Maybe better than that is to put pressure on Bain Capital to sell immediately as a sign of support of women in the United States.

What say ye, Mitt Romney?

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Open Free for All / Re: Musing from the Fornit Idiot; DANNY BENNISON
« on: February 08, 2012, 12:31:26 PM »
You have no idea who this is. I have stayed out of this because this kind of abuse, who is the  top dog exchange, is just insane.

Let me surprise you, Daniel l. Bennison has not written a damn thing on this internet site in maybe 18 months. Who ever you people are, you have honestly been not conversing with the Danny you think you have been.
Whether you believe this is up to you. In the over all scheme of things it doesn't really matter.
Your not effecting Danny because he doesn't care.

As far as the Aspergers remark, nice touch. Horatio has Aspergers so you won't get a lot of leg out of that comment.
What is so funny is Wayne is impersonating Danny and so are some of Danny's friends. So what we have here is one big party of parodies.

People knock it off, everybody. Danny's friends and the friends of Wayne. This is insane, really. Stop!!!
Nobody is winning. Everybody looks abusive and crazy.

I understand that I will be called Danny but there are people on this site who know me Samara and Marcus who can verify my authenicity.
People lets stop this. Danny is not absolved from responsibility. He is in neck deep because he knew this crap was going on. Wayne you and Danny need to sort this out. The only way this happens is with a sit down face to face.

I say in CT. spring with maybe other Élan residents you trust. Talk this through and end it.

This is my two cents.

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Feed Your Head / Re: Ann Romney Says She’ll Work With Troubled Teens
« on: January 13, 2012, 01:05:01 PM »
I really had no idea this article had already been posted in it's entirety, comments and all.
Ursus if you would like to delete this thread it is alright by me. No reason for duplication.
Maybe Antigen can make the "Subject Title" more clearer that we are talking about Anne Romney.

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Feed Your Head / Ann Romney Says She’ll Work With Troubled Teens
« on: January 12, 2012, 09:22:37 PM »
Ann Romney Says She’ll Work With Troubled Teens as First Lady
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... st-lady-3/
By Russell Goldman
Oct 5, 2011 6:33pm
 
At a campaign stop in Iowa, Ann Romney, wife of GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney, said working with “at risk” kids would be the cause she devotes herself to if she becomes first lady.

“At risk youth has been a concern of mine and love of mine for a lot of years,” she said.

Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, hinted that his wife would choose to work with troubled young people if he were elected president as he campaigned in Florida earlier this week.
 

User Comments here:


a little early to be picking out the drapes

Posted by: huge
| October 5, 2011, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm


I’d like to know why her husband’s company, Bain Capital, owns the Aspen Schools with have lots of allegations for abuse.

Would you also ask her about her husbands connections with Robert Litchfield, the owner of the WWASP programs which were closed due to abuse and Mel Sembler, the founder of Straight Inc which has over 40 suicides directly linked to it and thousands of brainwashed kids walking around today as adults?

And how her husband has Mel Sembler as his finance campaign manager and had to ask Robert Litchfield to step down last election due to the law suits he was facing?

She has no idea what’s in store for her….thousands of abused kids will start speaking out. I am one of those that was abused by Mel Sembler as a child.

Posted by: Thomas Moore
| October 6, 2011, 10:46 am 10:46 am


I would also like her to answer for her husbands connections to Robert Litchfield, founder of the worlwide association of specialty programs whom had had more than half of their “schools” shut down by FOREIGN governments due to allegations of child abuse (trust me these allegations are credible, I was in one of these places myself).

If Romney becomes President he is going to be held accountable for the choices that he has made. If that’s the result, then he got what he intended to use their words against them.

Posted by: Drew Ramsauer | October 6, 2011, 11:02 am 11:02 am


As someone who attended an overseas WWASP schools, one of the programs that provided a great deal of funding to Romney’s campaign, I find it outrageous that he would allow for any further ties to be made between him and this abusive industry. Even the smallest amount of research on the programs that have supported him (which his wife would likely pay back through her involvement) will reveal cases of death, neglect, abuse, and deceptive marketing. This is an outrage and I know that I personally will be speaking out about this issue. I hope that ABC News will present the stories of teens who suffered through this industry an outlet as well, in the effort to be balanced. “Help” should never come at the cost of abuse.

Posted by: Chelsea
| October 6, 2011, 11:08 am 11:08 am


The sheer irony and horror to see such a lady associated with so many monsters claim to even want to help the children who suffered do to the company her and her husband choose to keep. Her campaign (the campaign of her husband) is funded from the abuse, manipulation, and death of troubled youth. The suffering of youth was and is mere road bumps ignored and cast aside in the power and political growth of the Romney Empire. If they choose not to protect or help our youth, the future of our country, then how can we hope to even trust them with our nation? If she is serious about what she claims then I would like to see her push for The Stop Child Abuse in Residential Programs for Teens ACT of 2011 to show she is willing to go against the abusers she has associated herself with and begin to reform the troubled teen industry. If not then it is more mere political promises that were never meant to be kept.

Posted by: James | October 6, 2011, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm


Ann Romney will work with troubled teens if Mitt’s elected? Why wait? Do some good now, Ann;
if your heart is truly in it, you should act now. Judging from what I’ve read on these posts, you
have a lot of work to do to fix some broken kids with connections to the schools. I wouldn’t vote for
Mitt is he is nominated anyway, and I admit to be quite uninformed about the schools because I
avoid reading Republican’s bios, but I will make it a point to read up on this one. Then, when I
ask others to not vote Republican, I’ll have a bit more substance to back it up with.

Posted by: carci | October 6, 2011, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm


Carci, I reccommend you research WWASP, Straight Inc., and Robert Lichfield himself. Those are the kinds of people this woman plans on working with.

Posted by: Whitney
| October 7, 2011, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm


joy behar clones. I live about 3 streets from Bob Litchfields wife in LaVerkin Ut, and have known the family for 30+ years. They are divorced. They have met Mitt Romney once, Patti said, and it was a “hi and a handshake.” Mitt wouldn’t know the litchfields from adam. It amazes me how one women gets on here and conjures up some imagined connection, and the witches w/ a “b” jump in and start snarling for blood. This women has suffered so much, and yet has been a wonderful wife, mother, and grandmother. In today’s Lady Gaga society, that’s just discusting isn’t ladies. Wait, never mind the ladies.

Posted by: Bj Jones | October 9, 2011, 4:26 am 4:26 am


Mitt Romneys relationship with Mel Sembler and his followers like Robert Litchfield are just the tip of the iceberg of well documented cases of torture and abuse. I am certain that torture and child abuse are not Mormon core values…

But wait…it gets better…Mitts primary money man Mel Sembler founded operation Straignt Inc. which was shut down for client abuse. Sembler while Ambassador to Italy also facilited kidnapping and enhanced interrogation of terrorist suspects.

Most troubling is Semblers involvement in the lead-up to the Iraq war. Sembler facilitated the creators of the original false WMD Intell used to start the Iraq war.

Google “Sembler” and “phase2b.pdf”, Open the Senate Intelligence Report and drill down to page 17 to read about Semblers involvement.

We should expect similiar activties by Sembler if Mitt Romney is elected.
Bomb Bomb Bomb….Bomb Bomb Iran….will become Romneys campaign theme song…

Posted by: OperationTailGunner
| October 21, 2011, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm


Whitney: Chatting with Bob’s Ex does not an informed mind make. I am no Joy Bear clone. I have never voted for a democrat in a national election in my life. I am fairly conservative in my views with a bend towards Libertarianism. I am also very familiar with Mr. Romney’s associations. I know who Mel Sembler is. I know even better who Robert Litchfield is. I know both men work/worked closely with Romney and his campaigns. This is unforgivable. If Romney is nominated I will not be voting for the Republican candidate in this election. No way at all I could bring myself to do that. But hey – if you know Bob’s ex maybe you can help us get in touch with Narvin’s ex – there are those who would like to have a friendly chat with her.

Posted by: Karen
| November 7, 2011, 9:46 am 9:46 am


Editing – I mistook who posted what. My comment to Whitney should have gone to *BJ Jones*.
Also, I kept getting an err message so will try again –

BJ Jones:

“Chatting with Bob’s Ex does not an informed mind make. I am no Joy Bear clone. I have never voted for a democrat in a national election in my life. I am fairly conservative in my views with a bend towards Libertarianism. I am also very familiar with Mr. Romney’s associations. I know who Mel Sembler is. I know even better who Robert Litchfield is. I know both men work/worked closely with Romney and his campaigns. This is unforgivable. If Romney is nominated I will not be voting for the Republican candidate in this election. No way at all I could bring myself to do that. But hey – if you know Bob’s ex maybe you can help us get in touch with Narvin’s ex, [Flora] there are those who would like to have a friendly chat with her. “

Posted by: Karen
| November 7, 2011, 9:51 am 9:51 am

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Feed Your Head / Boy, 12, Tells Congress of Years on ‘Stupid’ Meds
« on: December 04, 2011, 08:07:35 PM »
Via Facebook-
Nice to see this young boy made it out alive or without irreparable mental damage (or so it seems).

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... upid-meds/
Boy, 12, Tells Congress of Years on ‘Stupid’ Meds

ABC News

A 12-year-old boy told Congress today that he was medicated into a near-stupor with mind-altering drugs during the four years he bounced among foster care homes.

“I think putting me on all these stupid meds was the stupidest thing I’ve ever experienced in foster care and was the worst thing anyone could do to foster kids,”  the boy, identified only as Ke’onte, told the Senate Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security.

The seventh-grader, who was adopted by a Texas family in 2009 and who ABC News has been following for a year, said he had tantrums as a foster child and was inaccurately diagnosed as bipolar and having ADHD.

“I’ve been in the mental hospital three times during foster care, and every time I had to get on more meds or new meds to add to the ones I was already taking,” he said. Ke’onte said his meds made him feel irritable, gave him stomachaches and affected his appetite.

“I remember having a bowl of spaghetti and had three bites and then I was done,” he said.

He said he would get so tired “it felt like I would collapse wherever I was in the house.”

Ke’onte’s testimony came as a Government Accountability Office report was released that found that the federal government had not done enough to oversee the treatment of foster children with powerful drugs.

The report, whose contents were revealed by ABC News on Wednesday, coincided with a nationwide ABC investigation on the overuse of the most potent mind-altering drugs on many of the country’s nearly 425,000 foster children.

Ke’onte, who was on up to four medications at a time during his years in six foster homes, said that therapy has helped him in a way that meds never did.  “In therapy, you talk about the deepest thing and it hurts, but you can deal with it better the next time,” he said.

Now, he said, he is first chair in clarinet in his school band, participates in cross-country and has three small roles in the school play.

“I’m not only more focused in school… I’m not going to the office anymore for bad behavior and I’m happy.”

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Mission Accomplished
« on: December 04, 2011, 05:15:13 PM »
When I think of Reagon and Clinton I look at their approval ratings just before their 2nd terms as presidents. They were high somewhere around 50% which in my mind means these two presidents were resonating with Americans and a lot of them. Their programs were being pushed through and for the most part life was good, business was good. These two men were real leaders (like them or not) they led, they stood out and you knew who was running things.
 Bush and O'Bama I haven't ever felt that they were running this country. Treasury Sec. Geithner runs the country for O'bama and Cheney and Rove ran the country for Bush. I could go on and on concerning the ignorance both of these presidents have where it involves international diplomacy, business and politics.
Men or Women that are qualified no longer want to run. The media has turned politics into a rag mag weekly blog. Dirt and filth are great if you can't find it or make it up so it looks like it. Who cares if this in the end creates more damage to the fragile physic America is feeling today. Just keep piling it on.
The next major problem is the entrenched warfare going on between the two ideologies (if you can even call them that) Republicans and Democrats refuse to work together at all. They can give a rats ass about this country, they have this fantasy that everything will be OK in the end. Well for them it will be OK, they get to walk away with a pension and health care paid for by the taxpayer.

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Tacitus' Realm / The Immortal Life of "Henrietta Lacks"
« on: December 04, 2011, 02:01:12 PM »
I found this story very interesting for the scientific importance of immortal cells and the legal ramifications of discarded cells ("This issue and Mrs. Lacks' situation was brought up in the Supreme Court of California case of Moore v. Regents of the University of California. The court ruled that a person's discarded tissue and cells are not their property and can be commercialized.")
My problem is with when and if Mrs Lacks knew they were taking her cells. I say taking because it appears in this particular story that the doctors and researchers were asking Mrs Lacks to come in for future follow up appointments with the hidden additional purpose of extracting more cancerous cells for research. They were not communicating with her.
It is unethical to not explain to the patient that their cells that would normally be discarded and never used for any purpose are valuable for future tests and monetarily could have immense value.


http://www.theopennotebook.com/2011/11/ ... tta-lacks/
How Rebecca Skloot built The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks


About The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks
http://rebeccaskloot.com/the-immortal-life/

Her name was Henrietta Lacks, but scientists know her as HeLa. She was a poor black tobacco farmer whose cells—taken without her knowledge in 1951—became one of the most important tools in medicine, vital for developing the polio vaccine, cloning, gene mapping, in vitro fertilization, and more. Henrietta’s cells have been bought and sold by the billions, yet she remains virtually unknown, and her family can’t afford health insurance.
Soon to be made into an HBO movie by Oprah Winfrey and Alan Ball, this New York Times bestseller takes readers on an extraordinary journey, from the “colored” ward of Johns Hopkins Hospital in the 1950s to stark white laboratories with freezers filled with HeLa cells, from Henrietta’s small, dying hometown of Clover, Virginia, to East Baltimore today, where her children and grandchildren live and struggle with the legacy of her cells. The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks tells a riveting story of the collision between ethics, race, and medicine; of scientific discovery and faith healing; and of a daughter consumed with questions about the mother she never knew. It’s a story inextricably connected to the dark history of experimentation on African Americans, the birth of bioethics, and the legal battles over whether we control the stuff we’re made of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Lacks

In scientific research
 The cells from Henrietta's tumor were given to researcher George Gey, who "discovered that [Henrietta's] cells did something they'd never seen before: They could be kept alive and grow."[13] Before Henrietta, the cells would only survive for a few days. Scientists spent more time trying to keep the cells alive than performing actual research on the cells. Some cells in Lacks's tissue sample behaved differently than others. George Gey was able to isolate one specific cell, multiply it, and start a cell line. Gey named the sample "HeLa", after the initial letters of Henrietta Lacks' name, to protect her identity. As the first human cells grown in a lab that were "immortal" (did not die after a few cell divisions), they could then be used for conducting many experiments. This represented an enormous boon to medical and biological research.[1]

As reporter Michael Rogers stated, the growth of HeLa by a researcher at the hospital helped answer the demands of the 10,000 who marched for a cure to polio just shortly before Lacks' death. By 1954, HeLa was being used by Jonas Salk to develop a vaccine for polio.[1][11] To test Salk's new vaccine, the cells were quickly put into mass production in the first-ever cell production factory.[14]

Demand for the HeLa cells quickly grew. Since they were put into mass production, Henrietta's cells have been mailed to scientists around the globe for "research into cancer, AIDS, the effects of radiation and toxic substances, gene mapping, and countless other scientific pursuits".[11] HeLa cells have been used to test human sensitivity to tape, glue, cosmetics, and many other products.[1] Scientists have grown some 20 tons of her cells.[1][15]

Doctors still have not discovered the reason for HeLa cells' unique vigor, but suspect that it is due to altered telomerase function. There are almost 11,000 patents involving HeLa cells.[1]

In the early 1970s, the family started getting calls from researchers who wanted blood samples from them to learn the family's genetics (eye colours, hair colours, and genetic connections). The family wondered why and this is when they learned about the removal of Henrietta's cells. No one else in the family had the traits that made her cells unique.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa

HeLa
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Hela (disambiguation).
Dividing HeLa cells as seen by scanning electron microscopy

A HeLa cell (also Hela or hela cell) is a cell type in an immortal cell line used in scientific research. It is the oldest and most commonly used human cell line.[1] The line was derived from cervical cancer cells taken on February 8, 1951[2] from Henrietta Lacks, a patient who eventually died of her cancer on October 4, 1951. The cell line was found to be remarkably durable and prolific as illustrated by its contamination of many other cell lines used in research.[3][4]

George Otto Gey and Henrietta Lacks
HeLa cells stained with Hoechst 33258

The cells were propagated by George Otto Gey shortly before Lacks died in 1951. This was the first human cell line to prove successful in vitro, which was a scientific achievement with profound future benefit to medical research. Gey freely donated both the cells and the tools and processes his lab developed to any scientist requesting them, simply for the benefit of science. Neither Lacks nor her family gave Gey permission to harvest the cells, but, at that time, permission was neither required nor customarily sought.[5] The cells were later commercialized, although never patented in their original form. Then, as now, there was no requirement to inform a patient, or their relatives, about such matters because discarded material, or material obtained during surgery, diagnosis, or therapy, was the property of the physician and/or medical institution. This issue and Mrs. Lacks' situation was brought up in the Supreme Court of California case of Moore v. Regents of the University of California. The court ruled that a person's discarded tissue and cells are not their property and can be commercialized.[6]

At first, the cell line was said to be named after a "Helen Lane" or "Helen Larson", in order to preserve Lacks' anonymity. Despite this attempt, her real name was used by the press within a few years of her death. These cells are treated as cancer cells, as they are descended from a biopsy taken from a visible lesion on the cervix as part of Mrs. Lacks' diagnosis of cancer. A debate still continues on the classification of the cells.[citation needed]

HeLa cells are termed "immortal" in that they can divide an unlimited number of times in a laboratory cell culture plate as long as fundamental cell survival conditions are met (i.e. being maintained and sustained in a suitable environment). There are many strains of HeLa cells as they continue to evolve by being grown in cell cultures, but all HeLa cells are descended from the same tumor cells removed from Mrs. Lacks. It has been estimated that the total number of HeLa cells that have been propagated in cell culture far exceeds the total number of cells that were in Henrietta Lacks' body.[7]

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Synanon / Re: Looking for Ex-Synanon Members?
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:32:51 PM »
kendallbrin,
Thanks for posting. I was in a off-shoot program called Marathon House. Joe Geranamo was our Director and he was very familiar with folks from Synanon. Joe was actually connected with Daytop prior to his employment with Marathon House.
I have not had any success finding anyone (residents or employees) that went to Marathon House in Rhode island.  
I was 14 when I was sent to this facility.
Good luck with your search.

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Tacitus' Realm / The Bomb Buried In Obamacare Explodes Today-Hallelujah!
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:26:49 PM »
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2 ... halleluja/

Here is the bomb in a nutshell..

(excerpt from article)
"That would be the provision of the law, called the medical loss ratio, that requires health insurance companies to spend 80% of the consumers’ premium dollars they collect—85% for large group insurers—on actual medical care rather than overhead, marketing expenses and profit. Failure on the part of insurers to meet this requirement will result in the insurers having to send their customers a rebate check representing the amount in which they underspend on actual medical care."

Yep, they (Health Ins. Providers) would actually have to help, especially when you really need it. What a fucking concept..getting what you pay for.

(another excerpt from article)
"If you believe that the end of private, for-profit health insurance is some type of nefarious step towards a socialist society, then you might want to attend church this Sunday to mourn the loss of health insurers being able to worm out of covering the bills of a cancer patient because she forgot to write down on her application that she had skin acne for three months when she was a teenager."



(Article in full)

I have long argued that the impact of the Affordable Care Act is not nearly as big of a deal as opponents would have you believe. At the end of the day, the law is – in the main – little more than a successful effort to put an end to some of the more egregious health insurer abuses while creating an environment that should bring more Americans into programs that will give them at least some of the health care coverage they need.

There is, however, one notable exception – and it’s one that should have a long lasting and powerful impact on the future of health care in our country.
 
That would be the provision of the law, called the medical loss ratio, that requires health insurance companies to spend 80% of the consumers’ premium dollars they collect—85% for large group insurers—on actual medical care rather than overhead, marketing expenses and profit. Failure on the part of insurers to meet this requirement will result in the insurers having to send their customers a rebate check representing the amount in which they underspend on actual medical care.

This is the true ‘bomb’ contained in Obamacare and the one item that will have more impact on the future of how medical care is paid for in this country than anything we’ve seen in quite some time.  Indeed, it is this aspect of the law that represents the true ‘death panel’ found in Obamacare—but not one that is going to lead to the death of American consumers. Rather, the medical loss ratio will, ultimately, lead to the death of large parts of the private, for-profit health insurance industry.

Why? Because there is absolutely no way for-profit health insurers are going to be able to learn how to get by and still make a profit while being forced to spend at least 80 percent of their receipts providing their customers with the coverage for which they paid. If they could, we likely would never have seen the extraordinary efforts made by these companies to avoid paying benefits to their customers at the very moment they need it the most.

Today, that bomb goes off.


Today, the Department of Health & Human Services issues the rules of what insurer expenditures will—and will not—qualify as a medical expense for purposes of meeting the requirement.

As it turns out, HHS isn’t screwing around. They actually mean to see to it that the insurance companies spend what they should taking care of their customers.

Here’s an example: For months, health insurance brokers and salespeople have been lobbying to have the commissions they earn for selling an insurer’s program to consumers be included as a ‘medical expense’ for purposes of the rules. HHS has, today, given them the official thumbs down, as well they should have. Selling me a health insurance policy is simply not the same as providing me with the medical care I am entitled to under the policy. Sales is clearly an overhead cost in any business and had HHS included this as a medical cost, it would have signaled that they are not at all serious about enforcing the concept of the medical loss ratio.

So, can private health insurance companies manage to make a profit when they actually have to spend premium receipts taking care of their customers’ health needs as promised?

Not a chance-and they know it. Indeed, we are already seeing the parent companies who own these insurance operations fleeing into other types of investments. They know what we should all know – we are now on an inescapable path to a single-payer system for most Americans and thank goodness for it.

Whether you are a believer in the benefits of single-payer health coverage or an opponent, mark this day down on your calendar because this is the day seismic shifts in our health care system finally get under way.

If you thought that the Obama Administration chickened out on pushing the nation in the direction of universal health care for everyone, today is the day you begin to understand that the reality is quite the contrary.

How Much Do We Spend On Health Care?  
 
If you believe that the end of private, for-profit health insurance is some type of nefarious step towards a socialist society, then you might want to attend church this Sunday to mourn the loss of health insurers being able to worm out of covering the bills of a cancer patient because she forgot to write down on her application that she had skin acne for three months when she was a teenager.

Of course, those of you who fear the inevitable arrival of universal health care really shouldn’t be too fretful. There will always be a for-profit health insurance industry for those who want to pay for it. The only difference will be that those who cannot afford private coverage will also have an opportunity to get their families the medical care that they need

Everyone wins-except the for-profit health insurers.

I can live with that.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Tea Baggers Shut the fuck up.
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:01:10 PM »
Time Magazine Dec 5 2011 issue: Will be Censored in the United States.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9OLLbC7zFs

This Upcoming issue of Times Magazine will be censored in the United States with a picture dealing with Anxiety, while in other countries it will be dealing with the truth of world crisis naming the issue Revolution Redux.
As Jack Nicholson boldly states in the movie - A Few Good Men...."You can't handle the truth!"
or Can you handle the truth?

It was just reported that jobless claims went down, to "give Americans hope" but do you realize its December, of course jobs go up because people hire part time seasonal help and with the boost of Christmas spending but after flooding the Europe economy with more FED printed money and the 7.7 trillion the FED secretly handed out


There is a major prediction that I agree with at the video end that I think you will all be interested in hearing if you can handle the truth.

This is a commentary on the deception of Media.
Corporate media is manipulating the truth, no new information here.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Tea Baggers Shut the fuck up.
« on: December 03, 2011, 10:50:14 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/0 ... 25860.html
U.N. Envoy: U.S. Isn't Protecting Occupy Protesters' Rights

"The United Nations envoy for freedom of expression is drafting an official communication to the U.S. government demanding to know why federal officials are not protecting the rights of Occupy demonstrators whose protests are being disbanded -- sometimes violently -- by local authorities."

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Feed Your Head / Re: School Strip Search for Cell Phone
« on: December 01, 2011, 09:40:20 PM »
Could have the Ass. Principle called the police or maybe the child's parent or parents to come down to the school to assist. Why aren't the parents being contacted any more. I know my parents were contacted for just about any infraction.
Who do these administrators think they are anyway.
This is another incident of a big fat ego taking over and showing the kid who has the power. It is called bullying.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: What is the economy anyway ??
« on: November 16, 2011, 09:24:04 PM »
Quote from: "Samara"
It's not the root of all evil. If not money, something else.  But currency is here to stay so no point in belaboring the issue or dreaming of a Walden Utopia unless you are ready, able, and willing to live it.


Guns, pot, alcohol, sex or drinking to much carrot juice is not the problem or "root of all evil". Humans may be the root of all evil or at least we have the ability.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: What is the economy anyway ??
« on: November 07, 2011, 05:53:53 PM »
Quote from: "starry-eyed pirate"
Well...le's see...I don't know anyone who leads a just and moral life.  If you drive a car, and import your food and other goods, like tools and  clothes and furniture from halfway around the world you're not living justly.  In fact, if that is the case, then you are stealing the worlds health and robbing future generations of their chance to lead a good and healthy life.  I have a good friend who once told me, "Justice is not using anybody for anything, ever, period ".   In other words, justice has no ego.  The moral and the just are mostly invisible people, few and far between.  I don't know a whole lot about the Amish, though I nearly finished a book about their history once.  It seems to me though, that they do a pretty good job of living sustainable on the Earth.  They don't use electricity and they don't drive cars(although they take rides) and they grow most of their own food.  I know that they have some participation in the economy but I think it's minimal and I suggest that an Amish way of life or something akin to it, is the answer, sans religion.

What we have now is corporate feudalism.  The schools main purposes are not true education, but social conditioning.  Students learn the skills that will enable them to become part of the corporate power structure, instead of how to truly support themselves.  They learn dependence not independence.  Where are the schools that teach gardening and farming, leather work, metal smithing, hunting and fishing, and tailoring and carpentry, in addition to the 3 "R"s.  The schools homogenize the population and make the people dependent on the economy and therefore submissive and easy to control.  

I didn't mean to give the impression that I was proud of my hypocrisy, In fact I'm ashamed, but my shame doesn't prevent my honesty or my search for answers.  I think that most Americans, if they're honest with themselves, will realize that they frequently trade justice for convenience.

I think the idea that one has to be free of hypocrisy in order to point out an injustice is just silly and immature and frankly egotistical.

I am not sure why I am being accused of assuming all the liberties of immorality, hypocrisy and injustice.  You think I'm some kind of a nihilist or something ??  Far from it. My life is a work in progress and I do my best to live a conscientious life or as you put it, Samara, to live fair and just regardless of the matrix.

I love what you wrote here my man. Thanks!!!

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