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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Respect Camp--Secret WWASP torture gulag
« on: January 29, 2009, 09:54:01 AM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Do respect camp and bethal have the same physical address? If not, they're not the same place, perhaps.


That they use the same material and photos doesn't necessarily mean they are the same place because they tend to use generic models and repeated photos.
Yes they are the same:

From: Obituary - Levi Tyrell Shelton
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Memorial contributions may be made to the Bethel Boys Academy, 2147 Mill Street, Lucedale, MS 39452.

Another link from Cafety. Mentions some of the other names.

You can also search for "2147 Mill Street" and see what comes up.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Respect Camp--Secret WWASP torture gulag
« on: January 29, 2009, 12:49:01 AM »
Respect Camp is just one of +20 names for Bethel. The most present name is Gulf Coast Academy. They are all located the same place with the same church in the front yard. They should really do something with the buildings. According to a local informant, several parents have picked up their kids when they actually came to the place and saw how bad it is. The brochures and photos in their marketing material is the same as Bethel used. I guess they have photo-shopped the hairdo of the "students", so they look like coming from this decade.

It is just how little a program owner needs to do in order to fool the parents.

Visit the damn place!! Park out on the public street, shut off the engine and radio and listen to the screams. Take your GFG (Gift from God aka your problem child) with you. If there are too many screams of pain for your taste coming from the campus, drive home and hope that this little private "scared program" has done it purpose and never talk about it again.

BTW. One of our volunteers working on another message board sent me a link to an old video about Bethel. I have made a thread in the wwasp-subforum. You will find that the church is the same as shown in material from Respect Camp and Gulf Coast Academy.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: WWASP DOWNLOADS DIRECTORY
« on: January 27, 2009, 05:50:06 PM »
We had the link for a week (given to us by an inside informant) and I am sad that it was outed before we had time to inform everyone of it under the table. Cambridge is an old name for Gulf Coast Academy. One of the files has an error and if someone can crack it, please let us know now where they properly would close the open data down.

Please notice that Royal Gorge is listed as a WWASP school regardless of the fact that they official never was one. In fact one of our informant has got a letter from a survivor of Royal Gorge stating that the individual was at a WWASP seminar with detainees from other facilities.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: New info on the Wiki
« on: January 27, 2009, 05:12:39 PM »
I am only listing them because they have never been found to prove that the succes rate the program boost their ego's with are wrong.

They fail to count deaths during the program, youth who vanishes and young adults who die a few years out caused by PTSD.

I doubt that the list get anyone found because they have tried age-progressing programs, tons of detectives etc. but if a person find him- or herself on the list and decide to contact his or her family, I guess it cannot hurt.

If someone contact us, we are not going to out them. We will just list that signs of life have rumored more recently.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: Lone Star Expeditions
« on: January 27, 2009, 05:04:57 PM »
Our datasheet of this program have several survivor groups listed. Among them a specific survivor group on Myspace. If someone knows of other groups, please let us know the url, so we can add it on the datasheet.

Maybe you can find someone you know.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / New info on the Wiki
« on: January 27, 2009, 02:51:42 PM »
We have create a new category on our victims pages.

It is called Missing in Action. It is about youth who have dissapeared and not surfaced yet. If you know of any then state it.

If you know where they are and they are more than 18 years old (21 in Idaho), they please report that they are OK, so we can get them of the list.

We have this category on two of our victims pages so far:

In the 1990's
After year 2000

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: Who is the new female director at Northwest?
« on: January 27, 2009, 02:12:48 PM »
Personally I find it very disturbing. The Victims list we have recorded after a stay such a RTC / TBS is growing too fast.

I fear for the life of this boy. Because it is an open campus he can go into the woods and dissapear. Did they ever find Daniel Yuen?

It is just one of the most dangerous situations you can place a youth in. Did someone every hear of that diagnose or is it just an excuse to drag him further into "therapy"?

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: Tranquility Bay CLOSED!
« on: January 26, 2009, 12:51:23 AM »
A retired teacher (official from Kingston. Unofficial from ....) came looking for a job at TB.

The answer:

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Tranquillity Bay is now closed. However, I am hearing rumors of a HEART Academy coming in. Does anyone have further information on this?

Just follow the thread on the local community board. Lets see what they are saying. Someone has to work there.

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Let's talk about the weather... / Petition to save an inmate from Cannibalism
« on: January 25, 2009, 05:12:24 AM »
A poor robber who was able to turn himself into a goat held by the police in the Kwara State of Kenya.

Nigeria police hold 'robber' goat, BBC

We believe that the robber is in risk of being eaten by either the police or fellow inmates before he can change back into human shape. As we are against cannibalism we would like to create a Petition to secure that this goat/robber does not suffer this terrible fait.

How can we do that?

I am so happy that a teacher helped me back in my childhood from committing a terrible mistake. As a young kid I wanted to travel to third world countries in Africa and help saving people.

A teacher helped me by asking me to read Herge's masterpiece from 1931 about a young journalist traveling to Africa. It was the highpoint of his career. Why he didn't get a Nobel price for it, I don't know. This rather heavy literary book gave me profound insight in the way of living down there. I realized that I had to set other goals in life. I am forever thankful for this help I got from my teacher.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: Tranquility Bay CLOSED!
« on: January 24, 2009, 04:32:49 PM »
Quote from: "firstresponder"
Quote from: "Guest"
Actually given the choice I would close Majestic Ranch next. it is easy to forget that this place keeps 10 year olds.

my money would be on Pillars of Hope, located in Costa Rica.

still away from the American laws.

BUT i still feel that untill i SEE PROF that TB is closed it is not closed. you can say anything you want i have heard it a hundred times before and it was wrong. and when i see prof that TB is closed ill be sick for a week due to intoxication.

I  believe that they have to search for another place. The court stated that abuse had been done, but the employers managed to flee the country before justice could catch them. As the present sub-contract states:

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Pilares de Esperanza Language and Vocational Institute

This agreement is made for the specific intention of transferring a student to Pilares de Esperanza from a similar
school. Students must have achieved Merit Status 2 – Achievement Status with 500 Merits, be enrolled in the
similar school for a minimum of two months, and apply for the Study Abroad option to qualify for transfer to
Pilares de Esperanza. They must have successfully graduated Orientation Seminar. If needed, a passport can be
obtained while the student is qualifying to transfer. Any class work and merits from his/her success program
will transfer with him/her to POHLVI of Costa Rica after meeting the requirements to transfer to Costa Rica. If
at any time students choose by their actions or preference to leave Costa Rica, or are expelled from the school,
parents/sponsors may choose to reenroll their student at their previous school.

Once the student has qualified to transfer and has a passport, s/he will be transferred to Pilares de Esperanza.
There is a one thousand five hundred (1,500) transfer fee that can be split in two equal payments over two
months and paid with the student monthly fee paid at <webpage address>. The transfer fee will cover costs
of round-trip transportation to Costa Rica and passport if needed. After transferring to Costa Rica, sponsors will
be billed for the following tuition and fees schedule starting:

As for Oceanside, which I also don't believe is the new TB, I have more info. The senior staff is:

Program director: Amy Ritchie
Medical director: Dr. Habib Kuri
Parent Coordinator: Christina Kaminski

Maybe some of the names ring a bell. If you want to drive there:

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DIRECTIONS FROM THE BORDER TO OCEANSIDE
Close to the border on the U.S. side are stores where you can buy vehicle insurance for the day.

* From the San Diego border crossing (I-5 / I-805) follow the orange construction signs that say Rosarito, Playas de Tijuana (in the middle lane)
* Follow Playas de Tijuana signs toward the left that bring you onto Scenic Road Route 1
* Follow Route 1 about 20 miles until you see signs for Rosarito
* Soon after the 2nd Rosarito exit, Rosarito Centro, slow down and prepare to take the 3rd Rosarito exit. There is a Jersey Leche (milk) plant and a Pemex Gas station on the right of the highway, just off the exit.
* After exiting the highway, take the first right
* The milk plant and gas station will be on your right and a small auto repair garage on your left.
* Oceanside is the orange building on the left just past the auto repair garage.

You may pull into the covered parking.
Free parking!!! Let me sign my kids up at once.

I guess that we have to look at another place for a placement of their zero-tolerance kids. We just have to continue to digg.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: New CEDU-Ascent spin-off ?
« on: January 24, 2009, 12:50:48 PM »
I have been digging a little further. It seems that one of the founders former jobs were as owner of "Academy of the Rockies". They sold it to Wasserman, who renamed it to Rocky Mountain Academy.

I have found a number of old articles and they are now on our datasheet.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: found out my little sister has been cutting since elementary
« on: January 24, 2009, 12:00:51 PM »
Well - let keep two things apart.

Cutting is not suicide.

Cutting is a way remove heavy stuff from your emotional bagpack. Some use a therapist, some are lucky to have someone they can trust, some works things out by seeking lonelyness and some cut.

All the methods works well, but cutting leaves scars and there is a risk of infection.

If you want her to stop cutting, you should help her to find another way to get her heavy load off.

It doens't take a treatment center.

Who can she talk to? A social worker, a priest etc. Try to be creative. If you know that going to your mother would be equal to having her locked up, help her to find another adult she can talk to. You don't need to involve your mom.

I havn't met a person, who once in a while stumble over events in life, which takes extra effort to work out. It can be people loosing their lives, watching a traffic accident etc. We all need to find our way to deal with such things.

Create an account and p.m. me. Create a email address for this purpose, so you can remain anonymous.

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Open Free for All / Re: Pam's address will be posted unless she renounces AA
« on: January 23, 2009, 03:11:21 AM »
Maybe Royal Gorge was a test to modernize their original program, because they know that money are few among the population, so they have to make their programs cheaper.

Less locations for seminars, graduation on Campus etc.

I have not lived on campus and it would also be hard to find anyone who have tried both systems, so we dont know whether it was less strict at Royal Gorge compared to the other programs.

Just a thought.

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Tacitus' Realm / Single motherhood is responsible for our social problems?
« on: January 22, 2009, 09:38:32 AM »
From Dr.Phil:

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Dr. Phil goes back to Ann’s book, Guilty. “I have trouble sometimes sorting out whether you mean what you say, or whether this is one of those sound bite headlines that you put out there. I wrote a couple of them down. You say on children of divorce, 'or as I call them, future strippers …’ What do you mean by that?” he asks her.

“Well, it’s an important chapter, and a very important point and that is the glamorization of single motherhood,” Ann says, “how it’s promoted through the courts, through the government and through Hollywood and glossy magazines, and I go through vast amounts of data over the last 30 years, and I think presented it in a rather amusing way, about how single motherhood is responsible for most of our social problems, including girls running away to be strippers — that isn’t just a joke, that is a fact. The vast majority, like 70 percent of teenage runaways, juvenile delinquents, child murderers, girls who got pregnant, come from single-mother homes, and they are celebrated and glamorized, and marriage is debased in America, and this is creating real victims, Dr. Phil, more than my complaints about how political discourse goes on. This affects real people. Millions of children are being raised with a losing hand.”

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CAN ~ Collective Action Network / Woodbury's babbling about private sector contra public
« on: January 22, 2009, 04:00:43 AM »
Comment to: FUTURE TENSE, By Lon Woodbury

Yes, Mr. Woodbury

I understand very well that some public program are underfonded. I understand very well that complaints from both parents and detainees are ignored because none really wants to help these kids. I understand very well that some kids are dead in public care.

But the solution is not a private sector. The solution is not making laws, which scares parent to jail their kids in advance. And just because a company can profit, the kids don't stop dying. Not during a program, not once released.

The solution is oversight. The solution is using what works and avoid those thing which doesn't work.

I must refer to a 600 pages report called the Maryland report:

PREVENTING CRIME: WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T, WHAT'S PROMISING
A REPORT TO THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS
Prepared for the National Institute of Justice by Lawrence W. Sherman, Denise Gottfredson, Doris MacKenzie, John Eck, Peter Reuter, and Shawn Bushway in collaboration with members of the Graduate Program Department of Criminology and Criminal Justice University of Maryland

Here some researchers have checked up on Boot Camp, Wilderness therapy, Supermax for Children, Scared straight, corporal punishment etc. you name it.

Because you are very busy lobbying for private program, I will save you the time to read it and tell you what the conclusion is:

1) Start early. Report problems at home discovered by kindergarten or pre-school. Visit the home and help parents by introducing boundaries and fix their mental problems if those exist.
2) Extra teachers visiting the home. Prevents also child abuse.
3) School based program. No alternative school because then you put all the problem children in the same place where they can become a part of a negative peer group. Here in Denmark we have good results with serving breakfast in school and the so-called home work cafe's where retired teachers and nerds receive a little pay to help academically struggling youth. Gives self-esteem to nerds also.
4) In severe cases turn the home into a residential setting with cameras combined with intense family therapy or remove the entire family to a residential setting.

Lets get some oversight of both public and private programs. Lets focus on what works for both poor and rich. Dont let the childs chances of success depend on the welfare of the family.

Thats my two cent.

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