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High school to expand alcohol testing.  Yep, that's right kiddies.  Random urine screens Monday morning.  Better behave over the weekend!!!






By DAVID PORTER, Associated Press Writer 28 minutes ago

PEQUANNOCK, N.J. - Some teenagers who drink over the weekend could be in big trouble come Monday morning: A New Jersey school district plans to institute random urine tests capable of detecting whether alcohol was consumed up to 80 hours earlier.

Pequannock Township High, with about 800 students, said it will begin administering the tests next Monday.

"This is a major issue for America," School Superintendent Larrie Reynolds said Tuesday. "There are more kids that die each year in alcohol-related traffic deaths than there are soldiers who have died in
Iraq. The numbers are staggering."

At least one other New Jersey high school, in Middletown, employs the EtG test, which screens for ethyl glucuronide, a substance produced by the body when it metabolizes alcohol.

Pequannock teenagers who participate in sports or other extracurricular activities, or drive to school, are already tested for illegal drugs, under a 2005 program prompted by the heroin overdose of a student.

Students who test positive for alcohol will not be kicked off teams or barred from extracurricular activities. Instead they will receive counseling and their parents will be notified, Reynolds said.

"That's going to give our kids riding in the back seat of someone's car a very powerful reason to say no," he said.

Drug tests, similarly, can detect drug use that occurred days earlier.

The new test worries civil-liberties advocates and others who oppose school drug testing as an invasion of privacy.

"Medical care and treatment are issues between parents and children," said Deborah Jacobs, executive director of the
American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey.

They also say that common household products such as mouthwash can produce a positive test result. Reynolds said that the test has been recalibrated so that for students to test positive, they would generally have to consume one or two drinks.

The EtG test costs about $20, Reynolds said. The school's overall testing program is funded by a three-year, $120,000 federal grant.

"No one's really taking it seriously. If you want to go to a party, you're still going to go to a party," senior Matt Huber said.

Good work with the vids on Youtube Kathy!  Do you still have a site up?  I can't find it.

It takes a big man to admit...blah blah blah.  You get extra points cuz it was idiotgirl.

 

I love Modern Drunkard.

http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/m ... wisdom.htm

?I went out last night and didn?t drink a drop. I talked all night and in the morning I remembered everything I said. It was horrifying.?
Juan R. explaining his third shot of the afternoon at Swanky?s.


?I?m afraid of three things: Women, snakes, and the police. They all have the ability to hurt me and make it look like it was my fault.?
Gil H. sums up his fears at Auntie Mae?s Parlor in Manhattan, KS.


?Hey, bro, can you spare fifty cents? My car ran out of gas and I need some gas money so I can catch the bus to Boulder. Ah, shit, I fucked that one up. I meant to say I need a cup of coffee and some food and shit. And it?s July 4th. Pretty near. Fuck you.?
Name refused, still working out the kinks on the 16th Street Mall.


?You have abused the right to say something stupid.?
Tom B. in Orlando after getting his fill of his barstool neighbor.


?Did you just say that or did I??
A confused Blake W. after a moment of silence in Wingo Saloon.


?If you didn?t serve me last night, what makes you think I?d remember that??
Unnamed drunk in the James Joyce Pub in response to the bartender?s query of: ?If we didn?t serve you last night, what makes you think we?re going to serve you this afternoon??


?The jukebox is the drunkard?s fireplace.?
Troy B., warming himself to Wheel in the Sky in the Streets of London Pub.


?Gentlemen, at approximately nine o?clock last night, a small scouting force was sent into the vicinity of my liver. They?ve not been heard from. A rescue force was dispatched, but they, too, have been lost. I?m afraid I have no choice but to declare a state of full-scale war with my liver. Time for a martini.?
Lincoln Freimund rallies the troops on New Year?s Eve.

Straight-forward, pull no punches, no-nonsense advice.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... talk+weeds

Someone posted this on the Straight forum.  It sure does describe what I went through and so many of these places remind me dead on of Straight that I thought it would be appropriate here.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=20144

This is a long read, but I think it is a good description of what Straight did.

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'''Psychology of torture''' relies on [[psychological pain]] coupled
with physical [[Physical trauma|trauma]] to achieve the purposes of
the [[torture]]r.

Psychological pain is [[pain]] caused by [[psychological]] stress and
by emotional trauma, as distinct from that caused by
[[Nociception|physiological]] injuries and syndromes. The practice of
[[torture]] induces psychological pain through various acts that
often involve both [[physiological]] pain and psychological
manipulation to achieve a tactical goal or for the gratuitous
[[sadistic]] satisfaction of the torturer.

==Process==

The process of psychological torture is designed to invade and
destroy the presumptions of privacy, intimacy, and inviolability
assumed by the victim. Beyond merely invading the victim's mental and
physical independence on a one-to-one level, such acts are made
further damaging via public humiliation, incessant repetition, and
sadistic glee. As a result, the effects of psychological torture tend
to remain with the victim long after the actual activity is
discontinued.

Psychologically, torture often places the victim in a state where the
mind works against the best interests of the individual, due to the
inducement of such emotions as shame, worthlessness, dependency, and
a feeling of a lack of uniqueness. These and other mental stresses
can lead to a mutated, fragmented, or discredited personality and
belief structure. Even the victim's normal bodily needs and functions
(e.g. sleep, sustenance, excretion, etc.) can be construed as self-
degrading, and ironically, dehumanizing and animalistic.

==Social Implications==

A common factor of psychological torture, sometimes the only factor,
is to extend the activity to family, friends, and others for whom the
victim has a deep concern (the "social body"). This further disrupts
the individual's familiar expectations of their environment, their
control over their circumstances, and the strength and reliability of
their support network.

==Expert Opinions==

Beatrice Patsalides describes this transmogrification thus in "Ethics
of the unspeakable: Torture survivors in psychoanalytic treatment":

:"As the gap between the 'I' and the 'me' deepens, dissociation and
alienation increase. The subject that, under torture, was forced into
the position of pure object has lost his or her sense of interiority,
intimacy, and privacy. Time is experienced now, in the present only,
and perspective?that which allows for a sense of
relativity?is foreclosed. Thoughts and dreams attack the mind
and invade the body as if the protective skin that normally contains
our thoughts, gives us space to breathe in between the thought and
the thing being thought about, and separates between inside and
outside, past and present, me and you, was lost."

Torture robs the victim of the most basic modes of relating to
reality and, thus, is the equivalent of cognitive death. Space and
time are warped by [[sleep deprivation]]. The self ("I") is
shattered. The tortured have nothing familiar to hold on to: family,
home, personal belongings, loved ones, language, name. Gradually,
they lose their mental resilience and sense of freedom. They feel
alien?unable to communicate, relate, attach, or empathize with
others.

Torture splinters early childhood grandiose
[[Narcissism|narcissistic]] fantasies of uniqueness, omnipotence,
invulnerability, and impenetrability. But it enhances the fantasy of
merger with an idealized and omnipotent (though not benign)
other?the inflicter of agony. The twin processes of
individuation and separation are reversed.

==Interpersonal Relationships==

Torture is the ultimate act of perverted intimacy. The torturer
invades the victim's body, pervades his psyche, and possesses his
mind. Deprived of contact with others and starved for human
interactions, the prey bonds with the predator. "Traumatic bonding",
akin to the [[Stockholm syndrome]], is about hope and the search for
meaning in the brutal and indifferent and nightmarish universe of the
torture cell.

The abuser becomes the [[black hole]] at the center of the victim's
surrealistic galaxy, sucking in the sufferer's universal need for
solace. The victim tries to "control" his tormentor by becoming one
with him (introjecting him) and by appealing to the monster's
presumably dormant humanity and empathy.

This bonding is especially strong when the torturer and the tortured
form a dyad and "collaborate" in the rituals and acts of torture (for
instance, when the victim is coerced into selecting the torture
implements and the types of torment to be inflicted, or to choose
between two evils).

The psychologist Shirley Spitz offers this powerful overview of the
contradictory nature of torture in a seminar titled "The Psychology
of Torture" (1989):

:"Torture is an obscenity in that it joins what is most private with
what is most public. Torture entails all the isolation and extreme
solitude of privacy with none of the usual security embodied
therein ... Torture entails at the same time all the self exposure of
the utterly public with none of its possibilities for camaraderie or
shared experience. (The presence of an all powerful other with whom
to merge, without the security of the other's benign intentions.)

A further obscenity of torture is the inversion it makes of intimate
human relationships. The interrogation is a form of social encounter
in which the normal rules of communicating, of relating, of intimacy
are manipulated. Dependency needs are elicited by the interrogator,
but not so they may be met as in close relationships, but to weaken
and confuse. Independence that is offered in return for "betrayal" is
a lie. Silence is intentionally misinterpreted either as confirmation
of information or as guilt for 'complicity'.

Torture combines complete humiliating exposure with utter devastating
isolation. The final products and outcome of torture are a scarred
and often shattered victim and an empty display of the fiction of
power."

Obsessed by endless ruminations, demented by pain and a continuum of
sleeplessness?the victim regresses, shedding all but the most
primitive defense mechanisms: splitting, narcissism, dissociation,
projective identification, introjection, and cognitive dissonance.
The victim constructs an alternative world, often suffering from
depersonalization and derealization, hallucinations, ideas of
reference, delusions, and psychotic episodes.

Sometimes the victim comes to crave pain?very much as self-
mutilators do?because it is a proof and a reminder of his
individuated existence otherwise blurred by the incessant torture.
Pain shields the sufferer from disintegration and capitulation. It
preserves the veracity of his unthinkable and unspeakable experiences.

This dual process of the victim's alienation and addiction to anguish
complements the perpetrator's view of his quarry as "inhuman",
or "subhuman". The torturer assumes the position of the sole
authority, the exclusive fount of meaning and interpretation, the
source of both evil and good.

Torture is about reprogramming the victim to succumb to an
alternative exegesis of the world, proffered by the abuser. It is an
act of deep, indelible, traumatic indoctrination. The abused also
swallows whole and assimilates the torturer's negative view of him
and often, as a result, is rendered suicidal, self-destructive, or
self-defeating.

Thus, torture has no cutoff date. The sounds, the voices, the smells,
the sensations reverberate long after the episode has
ended?both in nightmares and in waking moments. The victim's
ability to trust other people?i.e., to assume that their
motives are at least rational, if not necessarily benign?has
been irrevocably undermined. Social institutions are perceived as
precariously poised on the verge of an ominous, Kafkaesque mutation.
Nothing is either safe, or credible anymore.

Victims typically react by undulating between emotional numbing and
increased arousal: insomnia, irritability, restlessness, and
attention deficits. Recollections of the traumatic events intrude in
the form of dreams, night terrors, flashbacks, and distressing
associations.

The tortured develop compulsive rituals to fend off obsessive
thoughts. Other psychological sequelae reported include cognitive
impairment, reduced capacity to learn, [[memory disorder]]s, [[sexual
dysfunction]], [[social withdrawal]], inability to maintain long-term
relationships, or even mere intimacy, [[phobia]]s, ideas of reference
and [[superstition]]s, [[delusion]]s, [[hallucination]]s, [[psychotic
microepisode]]s, and [[emotional flatness]].

==Results of Torture==

[[clinical depression|Depression]] and [[anxiety]] are very common.
These are forms and manifestations of self-directed aggression. The
sufferer rages at his own victimhood and resulting multiple
dysfunction. He feels shamed by his new disabilities and responsible,
or even guilty, somehow, for his predicament and the dire
consequences borne by his nearest and dearest. His sense of self-
worth and self-esteem are crippled.

In summary, torture victims suffer from a [[post-traumatic stress
disorder]] (PTSD). Their strong feelings of anxiety, guilt, and shame
are also typical of victims of childhood abuse, domestic violence,
and rape. They feel anxious because the perpetrator's behavior is
seemingly arbitrary and unpredictable?or mechanically and
inhumanly regular.

They feel guilty and disgraced because, to restore a semblance of
order to their shattered world and a modicum of dominion over their
chaotic life, they need to transform themselves into the cause of
their own degradation and the accomplices of their tormentors.

The CIA, in its "[[Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual -
1983|Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual ? 1983]]"
(reprinted in the April 1997 issue of Harper's Magazine), summed up
the theory of coercion thus:

:"The purpose of all coercive techniques is to induce psychological
regression in the subject by bringing a superior outside force to
bear on his will to resist. Regression is basically a loss of
autonomy, a reversion to an earlier behavioral level. As the subject
regresses, his learned personality traits fall away in reverse
chronological order. He begins to lose the capacity to carry out the
highest creative activities, to deal with complex situations, or to
cope with stressful interpersonal relationships or repeated
frustrations."

Inevitably, in the aftermath of torture, its victims feel helpless
and powerless. This loss of control over one's life and body is
manifested physically in impotence, attention deficits, and insomnia.
This is often exacerbated by the disbelief many torture victims
encounter, especially if they are unable to produce scars, or
other "objective" proof of their ordeal. Language cannot communicate
such an intensely private experience as pain.

Spitz makes the following observation:

:"Pain is also unsharable in that it is resistant to language ... All
our interior states of consciousness: emotional, perceptual,
cognitive and somatic can be described as having an object in the
external world ... This affirms our capacity to move beyond the
boundaries of our body into the external, sharable world. This is the
space in which we interact and communicate with our environment. But
when we explore the interior state of physical pain we find that
there is no object "out there"?no external, referential
content. Pain is not of, or for, anything. Pain is. And it draws us
away from the space of interaction, the sharable world, inwards. It
draws us into the boundaries of our body."

[[Bystander]]s resent the tortured because they make them feel guilty
and ashamed for having done nothing to prevent the atrocity. The
victims threaten their sense of security and their much-needed belief
in predictability, justice, and rule of law. The victims, on their
part, do not believe that it is possible to effectively communicate
to "outsiders" what they have been through. The torture chambers
are "another galaxy". This is how [[Auschwitz]] was described by the
author [[Yehiel Dinur|K. Zetnik]] in his testimony in the [[Eichmann
trial]] in [[Jerusalem]] in 1961.

Kenneth Pope in "Torture", a chapter he wrote for the "Encyclopedia
of Women and Gender: Sex Similarities and Differences and the Impact
of Society on Gender", quotes Harvard psychiatrist Judith Herman:

:"It is very tempting to take the side of the perpetrator. All the
perpetrator asks is that the bystander do nothing. He appeals to the
universal desire to see, hear, and speak no evil. The victim, on the
contrary, asks the bystander to share the burden of pain. The victim
demands action, engagement, and remembering."

But, more often, continued attempts to repress fearful memories
result in psychosomatic illnesses (conversion). The victim wishes to
forget the torture, to avoid re-experiencing the often life
threatening abuse and to shield his human environment from the
horrors. In conjunction with the victim's pervasive distrust, this is
frequently interpreted as hypervigilance, or even paranoia. It seems
that the victims can't win. Torture is forever.

== References ==
* CIA, KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation, July 1963
* CIA, Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual - 1983

* [ The
Psychology of Torture]

[[Category:Psychology]]
[[Category:Torture]]

http://www.nospank.net/pinto.htm


EXPLOITATION IN THE NAME OF "SPECIALTY SCHOOLING"
What Counts as Sufficient Data? What are Psychologists to Do?

Despite an expanding evidence base regarding promising and effective practices in children's mental health, and the implementation of these practices in a growing number of communities, an alarming treatment phenomenon is now occurring. Since the early 1990's, hundreds of private residential treatment facilities have been established across the country and abroad, and thousands of American youth are now receiving services in these institutions. Many of these programs identify themselves as private "therapeutic boarding schools," "emotional growth schools," or "specialty boarding schools." Unlike accredited and licensed residential treatment centers that are required to meet clear and comprehensive standards with regard to the treatment they provide, many of these new programs are not currently subject to any licensing or monitoring as mental health facilities in a number of states. It is the unlicensed and unregulated programs that are the focus of this article.

Highly disturbing reports have been published in the public media describing financial opportunism by program operators, poor quality treatment and education, rights violations and abuse of youth in these facilities (Dibble, 2005; Rowe, 2004; Aitkenhead, 2003; Weiner, 2003d; Kilzer, 1999). Outrage has been expressed by youth, family members and program employees (Rock, 2005; Rowe, 2004; Rubin, 2004; Aitkenhead, 2003; Rimer, 2001). The former director of one program expressed her dismay by sending a letter to the regional Department of Child Welfare calling for the program to be closed immediately because it "takes financial advantage of parents in crisis, and puts teens in physical and emotional risk" (Weiner, 2003a, 39 ). Multiple state investigations have been conducted and lawsuits have been filed in response to reports of abuse, neglect and mistreatment of youth in "therapeutic boarding schools." In numerous cases the lawsuits have led to convictions or high cost settlements (Hechinger & Chaker, 2005; Dukes, 2005; Rock, 2005).

Several states already have good laws on licensing and regulation of these facilities and other states have responded to these growing concerns by proposing (and in a few states passing) legislation to monitor and regulate the full range of residential programs for youth, including "therapeutic boarding schools." An example of such legislation is Utah Senate Bill 107, which was signed into law in March, 2005; this bill defines "therapeutic schools" and clearly specifies that these programs must be licensed and regulated like all other residential treatment facilities for youth (S. 107, 2005). Beyond the state level, Federal Bill HR 1738, the End Institutionalized Child Abuse Bill, was introduced in Congress in April, 2005; this bill proposes to provide funding to states to support the licensing and monitoring of the full range of child residential treatment programs.

Although policymakers have begun to take action, there has been little response from the field of children's mental health. In particular, there has been no acknowledgement of the reports of abuse in "therapeutic boarding schools" and similar programs by the American Psychological Association. In one sense, the lack of response from psychologists is consistent with our epistemological framework and commitment to the scientific method; we typically gather data first, and then analyze and interpret it, prior to developing a response or course of action. Currently, there are no comprehensive, systematically collected data available about private, unregulated residential treatment, so the lack of response at this time might seem appropriate. In addition to valuing the science of psychology, however, we also aspire to safeguard the welfare and rights of those whom we seek to serve, and we say that we are aware that special safeguards may be necessary to protect the rights and welfare of vulnerable persons or communities (Ethical Principles of Psychologists and Code of Conduct, 2002). It is therefore important that we educate ourselves about the current residential treatment phenomenon and then respond, as psychologists, in a manner consistent with our principles and our mission. Although the increased and unregulated institutionalization of youth is far from what we may have hoped for or predicted, it is occurring nonetheless, and we cannot ignore it any longer.

The following review is a summary of the issues that have been identified in the accounts that have been published to date regarding residential treatment programs that are not licensed or accredited as such, but continue to operate. These accounts have been featured in publications including the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Time Magazine, and have been aired on BBC News and National Public Radio. The series of articles published in 2003 by Tim Weiner at the New York Times is particularly comprehensive, and is based on interviews and correspondence with more than 200 parents, youth, staff members and program officials. Lou Kilzer has also reported extensively on the topic in the Denver-Rocky Mountain News (Kilzer, 1999). It should be noted that these series do not address all residential treatment and neither does this article. They specifically raise concerns about unlicensed and unregulated private programs that serve youth with emotional and behavioral challenges.

I would really like to be able to carry on a civil debate of the controversial aspects of Hyde adn the Gaulds.  I've been doing a little research here and there and Joe Gauld seems to have many of the same qualities that Miller Newton of Straight fame had/has.  I'm looking for all POVs, parents, students, staff...current and former, satisfied and not.  I'd really like to be able to get a little clearer picture of what Hyde and the Gaulds are about.



I've been PMing with a Hyde supporter today but I'd rather carry this discussion on here, in the open.   This is my last PM to whoever it is....


I didin't say I was sure. I said what I had seen so far disturbed me and it does. Which is why I'm asking questions. Particularly of people such as yourself who have been through it. I can read Hyde's site all day but it's just marketing. I'd like to have a normal, civil discussion of the controversial aspects of Hyde and like schools with someone with your perspective.

I also never said that just because someone believes strongly in something that makes it unhealthy. It was a comparison. Newton is now generally accepted even by TBS supporters to be an abusive ass, yet he still has his followers, young and old, from then and now. I said that because you keep telling me about these wonderful grads who are so grateful for the Gaulds and Hyde. People were grateful to Jim Jones too.


I'd love to discuss this and why I think the methodology is flawed with you further but I'd rather spend my time and effort doing it where more than one person can see and interpret and contribute to the discussion. If you'd like to do that you'd be more than welcome. Please don't go back to posting jabs anonymously. If you don't want to participate in an open discussion then don't....but stop the hit and run "hyde is great" crap and the personal attacks. Yes I realize that people on "my side" of the issue do the same but they're just as wrong as you are. I can still manage to carry on a discussion around them.