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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: SUCK IT on August 06, 2010, 02:48:10 PM
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How you like them apples?
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Dysfunction Junction is a poster who worked for an abusive program as a staffer, and abused other people's kids for money. He was their jailer, and brainwashed them and gave them all PTSD. He made a lot of money for doing this, but decided "he earned it" and kept it all for himself, how greedy is that? He could of returned it to the parents he stole it from, he could of payed the medical bills of the children he abused, or hired a lawyer to shut down programs, or any number of positive things. Instead he kept it to spend on himself, because he has no problems spending blood money he earned from abusing other people's children.
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The facts speak for themselves.
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Dysfunction worked for a program, a program he says is 100% abusive
Dysfunction received a paycheck in exchange for working at an abusive program
Dysfunction abused other people's children in exchange for his paycheck
Dysfunction "Bloody Hands" Junction kept every cent "he earned" from his tainted paycheck
And your point? I guess something DJ has been saying recently has gotten you pretty upset or you wouldn't be bothering trying to smear his name like this. What DJ did in the past is in the past; at least he's not here claiming that survivors are exaggerating about abuses they experienced or witnessed like you are. Your jive talking behavior here has proven you to be a shuck, so you might as well hang it up and shove off already. You're only making yourself look worse at this point.
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What DJ did in the past is in the past;
Why does that only apply to DJ, Frod? What gives him the free pass to dig up other peoples past and place it on display? It should be able to work both ways shouldn't it?
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What DJ did in the past is in the past;
Why does that only apply to DJ, Frod? What gives him the free pass to dig up other peoples past and place it on display? It should be able to work both ways shouldn't it?
Of course it should. Notice I didn't chime in on the thread where you were getting your ass torn apart. I can't say I approve of that sort of thing, but then you haven't exactly displayed the most honorable character traits here, have you? I decided to stay out of it because of that fact, while I might not have approved. I think DJ has learned the error of ways, but I can't say the same for you...
SUCK_IT: Kindly read my last post again. You talk shit, you get shit back.
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What DJ did in the past is in the past;
Why does that only apply to DJ, Frod? What gives him the free pass to dig up other peoples past and place it on display? It should be able to work both ways shouldn't it?
Of course it should. Notice I didn't chime in on the thread where you were getting your ass torn apart. I can't say I approve of that sort of thing, but then you haven't exactly displayed the most honorable character traits here, have you? I decided to stay out of it because of that fact, while I might not have approved. I think DJ has learned the error of ways, but I can't say the same for you...
SUCK_IT: Kindly read my last post again. You talk shit, you get shit back.
You mean I haven't bought into the whole mindset here on fornits, I have taken the middle road and see both sides of an argument and this is portrayed as dishonorable to you.
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I have taken the middle road and see both sides of an argument
I would say your sight is considerably skewed in favor of programs.
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I have taken the middle road and see both sides of an argument
I would say your sight is considerably skewed in favor of programs.
I try to recognize that there are good programs and bad programs and to see both sides. My view may be skewed, as you say, because I had a favorable outcome with programs and therefore hold a bias. I think you could admit that many here on fornits have a skewed view against programs, I see it as short sighted because they can only see the industry from one vantage point, but I dont consider them to be dishonorable because they dont have the same view as I do.
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The facts speak for themselves.
Fact
Dysfunction worked for a program, a program he says is 100% abusive
Dysfunction received a paycheck in exchange for working at an abusive program
Dysfunction abused other people's children in exchange for his paycheck
Dysfunction "Bloody Hands" Junction kept every cent "he earned" from his tainted paycheck
And your point? I guess something DJ has been saying recently has gotten you pretty upset or you wouldn't be bothering trying to smear his name like this. What DJ did in the past is in the past; at least he's not here claiming that survivors are exaggerating about abuses they experienced or witnessed like you are. Your jive talking behavior here has proven you to be a shuck, so you might as well hang it up and shove off already. You're only making yourself look worse at this point.
Why is this smearing, Frodie it is the truth. You don't have a problem with folks smearing me with all kinds of garbage. Oh, that's right DJ is your buddy.
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Why is this smearing, Frodie it is the truth. You don't have a problem with folks smearing me with all kinds of garbage. Oh, that's right DJ is your buddy.
I have a problem with it if it isn't true, even if you are the most avid program supporter on the planet. But I don't know whether the "garbage" stated about you is true or not, and you have yet to clarify -- what is the deal with dragging that girl behind a van? Did you really do that?? I don't take sides, I just call 'em like I see 'em. As far as I can see you have some explaining to do. DJ has already come clean, but I can't say the same for you...yet...
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Some people have shown that they are not worthy of respect. When you come to a message board full of people who were mistreated by drug programs and seek to victimize them again, then you have made yourself unworthy of respect. There has been an ongoing campaign of mockery and harrassment from some here towards program victims for months now. This is just another part of that campaign. So Whooter got upset and out came his creation SUCK IT to defend him. He flew into a rage and lashed out through SUCK IT because he was feeling cornered. What amazes me is these 3 thinkin they have some moral high ground here at all. They are the types who would walk into an NAACP meeting and start cracking "black jokes". Their behavior really is that outrageous when you put it in the proper context. Then they demand respect? That takes balls i gotta admit.
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Some people have shown that they are not worthy of respect. When you come to a message board full of people who were mistreated by drug programs and seek to victimize them again, then you have made yourself unworthy of respect. There has been an ongoing campaign of mockery and harrassment from some here towards program victims for months now. This is just another part of that campaign. So Whooter got upset and out came his creation SUCK IT to defend him. He flew into a rage and lashed out through SUCK IT because he was feeling cornered. What amazes me is these 3 thinkin they have some moral high ground here at all. They are the types who would walk into an NAACP meeting and start cracking "black jokes". Their behavior really is that outrageous when you put it in the proper context. Then they demand respect? That takes balls i gotta admit.
Shaggy is your hair growing into your skull also. You really sound a tad skewed sometimes, ya know just a little,"OFF". Just say'in.
Anyways, keep up the good work. Been awhile since we have had a avid reader like you. The three of us were just mentioning this over coffee.
Take care....
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Some people have shown that they are not worthy of respect. When you come to a message board full of people who were mistreated by drug programs and seek to victimize them again, then you have made yourself unworthy of respect. There has been an ongoing campaign of mockery and harrassment from some here towards program victims for months now. This is just another part of that campaign. So Whooter got upset and out came his creation SUCK IT to defend him. He flew into a rage and lashed out through SUCK IT because he was feeling cornered. What amazes me is these 3 thinkin they have some moral high ground here at all. They are the types who would walk into an NAACP meeting and start cracking "black jokes". Their behavior really is that outrageous when you put it in the proper context. Then they demand respect? That takes balls i gotta admit.
First of all Shaggys I am not SUCK IT. People here could easily call you someone’s alter ego. If you look at the posts over the past few days it is Dysfunction Junction who is cornered. He went running to the admins to have me banned because I was giving him a small taste of his own medicine. So if anyone is lashing out it is probably him. I have been taking his crap for years because he has trouble losing arguments and responds with trying to discredit the other person, its his MO. For the most part he is harmless, but I was bored and having a little fun.
I don’t feel I have the moral high ground or make fun of program victims. I think you can admit that this site is extremely biased towards being anti-program and my middle of the road position rubs people the wrong way. I have been here a long time and have seen it all. Not much riles me (except maybe posting an innocent 15 year old girls personal information on the internet).
I don’t see anyone asking for respect here. If you want respect yourself you need to be open minded enough to accept various points of view. Fornits doesn’t have an excess of posters who are receptive to people who feel that programs benefit people so dividing lines are set up fairly quickly when someone new enters the room. You will see this will blow over soon enough.
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The facts speak for themselves.
Fact
Dysfunction worked for a program, a program he says is 100% abusive
Dysfunction received a paycheck in exchange for working at an abusive program
Dysfunction abused other people's children in exchange for his paycheck
Dysfunction "Bloody Hands" Junction kept every cent "he earned" from his tainted paycheck
And your point? I guess something DJ has been saying recently has gotten you pretty upset or you wouldn't be bothering trying to smear his name like this. What DJ did in the past is in the past; at least he's not here claiming that survivors are exaggerating about abuses they experienced or witnessed like you are. Your jive talking behavior here has proven you to be a shuck, so you might as well hang it up and shove off already. You're only making yourself look worse at this point.
That's true, Frod. Aspen Education is next on the list and anyone who makes their money from Aspen is now getting really upset that their income is being destroyed.
First, I'd like to say that I never once abused any child. Yes, I worked for HLA when it first opened and I left before the third peer group formed. I never "went with the program" for a couple of reasons. One, "the program" hadn't been fully implemented. And two, I was educated and trained how to work with kids and would never act outside the parameters of decency or professional norms.
Let's also not forget that Whooter and his alter ego SUCK IT don't know me and never have. However, I have had many similar bitter exchanges with people who do know me and know of me, namely HLA employees. While I was working hard to shut down HLA these people were losing their jobs. They fought tooth and nail to try to discredit my words. Did they ever say "this guy is a child abuser"? No, they didn't. They didn't because they know me. They hated what I was doing and they would have done whatever they could to stop it, but do you think for one second if they had something like "child abuse charges" to hang around my neck like a mill stone they wouldn't do it? Of course they would. But that never happened. It was never said. Here I was, breaking their rice bowl with malice aforethought and they never even once broached this ridiculous topic.
Several kids from my caseload at HLA post here and never have said anything like that. In fact I just had a nice visit with two of them in L.A. I get invited to their weddings. I get birth announcements when they have children. I provide letters of recommendation and professional references for them. Don't you think if they had an axe to grind with me that they would have ground it here in public? Of course they would. All they have said is how nice it was to have someone actually try to help them.
In addition, I was one of the primary drivers of the several lawsuits that shut HLA down for good. I recruited the witnesses, got them to farm documents, acted as the clearinghouse and passed them on to investigators and attorneys. I provided sworn statements, affadavits and was interviewed and vetted by investigators for the plaintiffs and state authorities. Never, not once, was this subject broached then either. Do you really think that they would call me as a witness if I could be discredited so easily? No, of course they wouldn't.
Remember when HLA was filing SLAPP suits against posters here? They filed them against "Overlordd" and a couple of others. They didn't file one against me. Why? Because I would have gladly gone to court, brought my resources to bear, and had full discovery with a vigorous defense. And a winable countersuit. They didn't file against RB either for the same reasons. They know who we are, but chose not to file because they knew the consequences. Instead they elected to threaten me with violence and scare my wife in the middle of the night. But I don't scare off.
Wouldn't Whooter, who claims to have access to RobertBruce's treatment records, since he had such great connections inside HLA, be able to get my name or any information about my employment? He knows nothing even though every single staff from HLA who has posted here over many years knows all of that information. He' not exactly a credible source of any "data." And he has an agenda to protect the income he earns from Aspen Education who is in a world of hurt right now and getting worse.
So, no, Frod, I haven't "learned from my mistakes" because I never did anything to harm a child, ever. And I work tirelessly to make sure that I do everything in my power not to allow anyone else to harm them. As Che said, this is just a very small, public part of a larger network that works in child advocacy. Plenty of people here know me outside of here and know that all of this stuff that Whooter posted is garbage. Angry bile from someone upset that the facts about their connections have been exposed and whose income is being destroyed brick by brick. My doctoral thesis was written on the economic relationships and interconnectedness of this industry (with volumes on Aspen and NATSAP) and is part of the congressional archives now, serving as source for continuing investigation, courtesy of Rep. Miller.
These people are threatened by me. This is more than simple "trolling."
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Maybe you can repost it a bit larger and in red? Perhaps somebody might believe you then?
I'm having a premonition about Aspen Education group...
Exerpted verbatim from Document 57, Case 2:06-cv-00146-WCO, a sworn affadavit from Leonard Buccellato:
Dr. Leonard Buccellato, who upon being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
4. "...Since September 1, 2006, 42 of the 120 employees of HLA have been terminated due to decreased revenues."
5. "Despite reductions in the number of staff and reductions in the salaries of those who remained employed by HLA, HLA's revenue is insufficient to cover its expenses (mortgage, payroll, utilities, etc.) each month."
6. "Due to the dire financial situation faced by HLA, further reductions in the number of staff employed by HLA or closure of the school is imminent."
7. "Further staff reductions will result in a decreased quality of service to...students."
8. "Even more troublesome is the imminent threat of closure of HLA..."
9. "HLA...will not likely survive two months..."
Signed Dr. Leonard Buccellato
2 February 2007
You're headed the same way, SUCK IT. Like it or not, you're headed the same way.
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IF YOU ABUSE KIDS FOR FREE IT MAKES YOU A BIGGER MAN. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Amazing isn't it DJ? You just know that you've struck a nerve with a programmie when they pull out the, "OMFG he's an abusive staffer" line. I expected anger from the kids who were in programs when I first started posting on fornits, and I saw some of it. But for the most part survivors have been very welcome to former staff who were willing to be open and candid about their experiences. Reasonable enough I guess, can't and won't ever blame them for being angry. But these attacks aren't about angry survivors, they are about asshurt programmies trying to troll an ex-staffer who is vocal about abusive programs trying to be trolled off a forum. I've seen this enough to know that in a week or so Mr. Tuck It will find something else to do.
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IF YOU ABUSE KIDS FOR FREE IT MAKES YOU A BIGGER MAN. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Amazing isn't it DJ? You just know that you've struck a nerve with a programmie when they pull out the, "OMFG he's an abusive staffer" line. I expected anger from the kids who were in programs when I first started posting on fornits, and I saw some of it. But for the most part survivors have been very welcome to former staff who were willing to be open and candid about their experiences. Reasonable enough I guess, can't and won't ever blame them for being angry. But these attacks aren't about angry survivors, they are about asshurt programmies trying to troll an ex-staffer who is vocal about abusive programs trying to be trolled off a forum. I've seen this enough to know that in a week or so Mr. Tuck It will find something else to do.
That's exactly right, Che. Think about it for a moment.
Each time they accuse an ex-employee of "abusing children" they score a direct ground-zero hit on themselves in the form a of a tacit admission that their precious programs and staff abuse kids. They're willing to trade that program-damning admission to try to sully the whistleblower in hopes of winning the "PR war" which they're not smart enough to realize they have already lost.
The way they play, it's a zero sum game. The problem is we have nothing to lose - we have no financial skin in the game - and they lose their very livlihood. The only way they can win is not to play, but their overinflated egos and overripe self-righteousness disallow their non-participation.
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IF YOU ABUSE KIDS FOR FREE IT MAKES YOU A BIGGER MAN. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Amazing isn't it DJ? You just know that you've struck a nerve with a programmie when they pull out the, "OMFG he's an abusive staffer" line. I expected anger from the kids who were in programs when I first started posting on fornits, and I saw some of it. But for the most part survivors have been very welcome to former staff who were willing to be open and candid about their experiences. Reasonable enough I guess, can't and won't ever blame them for being angry. But these attacks aren't about angry survivors, they are about asshurt programmies trying to troll an ex-staffer who is vocal about abusive programs trying to be trolled off a forum. I've seen this enough to know that in a week or so Mr. Tuck It will find something else to do.
That's exactly right, Che. Think about it for a moment.
Each time they accuse an ex-employee of "abusing children" they score a direct ground-zero hit on themselves in the form a of a tacit admission that their precious programs and staff abuse kids. They're willing to trade that program-damning admission to try to sully the whistleblower in hopes of winning the "PR war" which they're not smart enough to realize they have already lost.
The way they play, it's a zero sum game. The problem is we have nothing to lose - we have no financial skin in the game - and they lose their very livlihood. The only way they can win is not to play, but their overinflated egos and overripe self-righteousness disallow their non-participation.
Sorry DJ. You have been trolling people who disagree with you on this board for years. Anyone can scan through your posts to see how little value you have added here. We forced you to log in for every post and now you dont know how to act. All you do is spend your days trying to discredit people.
I dont know why you had to make up all those degrees just to impress us. Everyone is welcome to post here and if you really had the education you tout on fornits you would be discussing the issues instead of undermining every thread you dont like.
I have tried to work with you but you are like a little kid and now we can see you are having a tantrum.
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We forced you to log in for every post
We? Who is we? The admins changed this site's policy about anon posting because of your spamming (as the "FUCK troll" and others), which you were banned for previously.
I'm throwing a "tantrum"? Take a look at how many "DJ" threads you started in the last day.
The bottom line is that I have only one username and I always use it and always have. You, OTOH, have several (which you already admitted to) which you use to troll me so your "Whooter" identity can remain "above the fray." Seriously, Whooter, you think everyone here doesn't know this? You're wasting your time.
If you really wanted to have in impact on the sustainablity of Aspen Education, which will probably be sold off again in the next year or so and is currently undergoing massive decline in profits, restructuring and shedding employees at an unsustainable rate, you should try to make that impact in areas that actually matter. Trolling me on a message board isn't going to affect in any way the scope of activities I have enjoined with others to erode Aspen profits.
I did it to HLA until they were financially forced to close their doors and I'm doing it now to Aspen Education. Admittedly Aspen is a much more financially able opponent, but one which is already nearly unprofitable and therefore susceptible to my "proven program." This is why you are so enraged that you spend day and night logging in ond out with various pseudonyms and starting thread after thread of "DJ abuses kids!" drivel. You're stuck like a pig and bleeding profusely and it shows plainly.
The best part? You have no way to stop it. Unfortunately you're dealing with a hydra about which you are only aware of the "Fornits head." So you go ahead and keep busy here while I do what I do best.
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All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!! lol
Well lets take a look at what is real or not. Hmmmm...
Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.
After you edited your posts you wrote this: which is your education history:
DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:
June 30 post on DJ's education (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=368264#p368264)
A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years. Here is an example. Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:
June 30, 2010
DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11098&p=121144&hilit=msw#p121144)
Another one! Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=91225#p91225)
Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?
Just asking. Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.
Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry? Were you truthful about that too? Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks? Do you want to take a look at that next?
See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ. You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.
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sting!!!! wont go away. lol
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Sorry, Buddy :(
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The facts speak for themselves.
Fact
Dysfunction worked for a program, a program he says is 100% abusive
Dysfunction received a paycheck in exchange for working at an abusive program
Dysfunction abused other people's children in exchange for his paycheck
Dysfunction "Bloody Hands" Junction kept every cent "he earned" from his tainted paycheck
And your point? I guess something DJ has been saying recently has gotten you pretty upset or you wouldn't be bothering trying to smear his name like this. What DJ did in the past is in the past; at least he's not here claiming that survivors are exaggerating about abuses they experienced or witnessed like you are. Your jive talking behavior here has proven you to be a shuck, so you might as well hang it up and shove off already. You're only making yourself look worse at this point.
That's true, Frod. Aspen Education is next on the list and anyone who makes their money from Aspen is now getting really upset that their income is being destroyed.
First, I'd like to say that I never once abused any child. Yes, I worked for HLA when it first opened and I left before the third peer group formed. I never "went with the program" for a couple of reasons. One, "the program" hadn't been fully implemented. And two, I was educated and trained how to work with kids and would never act outside the parameters of decency or professional norms.
Let's also not forget that Whooter and his alter ego SUCK IT don't know me and never have. However, I have had many similar bitter exchanges with people who do know me and know of me, namely HLA employees. While I was working hard to shut down HLA these people were losing their jobs. They fought tooth and nail to try to discredit my words. Did they ever say "this guy is a child abuser"? No, they didn't. They didn't because they know me. They hated what I was doing and they would have done whatever they could to stop it, but do you think for one second if they had something like "child abuse charges" to hang around my neck like a mill stone they wouldn't do it? Of course they would. But that never happened. It was never said. Here I was, breaking their rice bowl with malice aforethought and they never even once broached this ridiculous topic.
Several kids from my caseload at HLA post here and never have said anything like that. In fact I just had a nice visit with two of them in L.A. I get invited to their weddings. I get birth announcements when they have children. I provide letters of recommendation and professional references for them. Don't you think if they had an axe to grind with me that they would have ground it here in public? Of course they would. All they have said is how nice it was to have someone actually try to help them.
In addition, I was one of the primary drivers of the several lawsuits that shut HLA down for good. I recruited the witnesses, got them to farm documents, acted as the clearinghouse and passed them on to investigators and attorneys. I provided sworn statements, affadavits and was interviewed and vetted by investigators for the plaintiffs and state authorities. Never, not once, was this subject broached then either. Do you really think that they would call me as a witness if I could be discredited so easily? No, of course they wouldn't.
Remember when HLA was filing SLAPP suits against posters here? They filed them against "Overlordd" and a couple of others. They didn't file one against me. Why? Because I would have gladly gone to court, brought my resources to bear, and had full discovery with a vigorous defense. And a winable countersuit. They didn't file against RB either for the same reasons. They know who we are, but chose not to file because they knew the consequences. Instead they elected to threaten me with violence and scare my wife in the middle of the night. But I don't scare off.
Wouldn't Whooter, who claims to have access to RobertBruce's treatment records, since he had such great connections inside HLA, be able to get my name or any information about my employment? He knows nothing even though every single staff from HLA who has posted here over many years knows all of that information. He' not exactly a credible source of any "data." And he has an agenda to protect the income he earns from Aspen Education who is in a world of hurt right now and getting worse.
So, no, Frod, I haven't "learned from my mistakes" because I never did anything to harm a child, ever. And I work tirelessly to make sure that I do everything in my power not to allow anyone else to harm them. As Che said, this is just a very small, public part of a larger network that works in child advocacy. Plenty of people here know me outside of here and know that all of this stuff that Whooter posted is garbage. Angry bile from someone upset that the facts about their connections have been exposed and whose income is being destroyed brick by brick. My doctoral thesis was written on the economic relationships and interconnectedness of this industry (with volumes on Aspen and NATSAP) and is part of the congressional archives now, serving as source for continuing investigation, courtesy of Rep. Miller.
These people are threatened by me. This is more than simple "trolling."
As far as we know everything you just wrote could all be a bunch of bullshit. Your one of the most egotistical SOB's I've ever met and you expect us to believe that you never had a confrontation with a student....bullshit. Plus you forgot to mention your stellar career with Daytop.
DJ, this is why you are not credible at all because you can't even be honest about the small things. Just because nobody witness you being abusive (you sneaky staffer) does not mean you were not.
Oh DJ, you are so right that fornits is a small public part to a much larger advocacy. No DJ, there are not a lot of people who know you did not do any harm to kids, another thing that interests me is your grandiose ideas about congresses archives, your thesis is sitting under a stack that could reach around the world twice.
You just keep churning out your papers of extreme cases and will keep the engine turning on the great programs that are here in America.
Fact is DJ you probably represent maybe 2% of the of all the programs here in the United States, that are bad, Happy to see you doing the work, stop acting as if your rep'ing for 95% of the programs. I'm sure your Rep. Miller would also have to agree if he was in his right mind.
We are threatened by you, DJ, your a classic OCD imbecile, look at your posts for the last month. Where the hell are you coming from..... :rofl:
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You just keep churning out your papers of extreme cases and will keep the engine turning on the great programs that are here in America.
Funny, I have never seen you even mention a "great American program." Care to provide a list of the "greats" for us, Danny?
All I've really seen you do is rant and rave about Anne's avatar's "cartoon crotch." That's probably your biggest "contribution" here, Danno, along with your other sexual and violent misogynistic rants about various and sundry female posters.
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We forced you to log in for every post
We? Who is we? The admins changed this site's policy about anon posting because of your spamming (as the "FUCK troll" and others), which you were banned for previously.
I'm throwing a "tantrum"? Take a look at how many "DJ" threads you started in the last day.
The bottom line is that I have only one username and I always use it and always have. You, OTOH, have several (which you already admitted to) which you use to troll me so your "Whooter" identity can remain "above the fray." Seriously, Whooter, you think everyone here doesn't know this? You're wasting your time.
If you really wanted to have in impact on the sustainablity of Aspen Education, which will probably be sold off again in the next year or so and is currently undergoing massive decline in profits, restructuring and shedding employees at an unsustainable rate, you should try to make that impact in areas that actually matter. Trolling me on a message board isn't going to affect in any way the scope of activities I have enjoined with others to erode Aspen profits.
I did it to HLA until they were financially forced to close their doors and I'm doing it now to Aspen Education. Admittedly Aspen is a much more financially able opponent, but one which is already nearly unprofitable and therefore susceptible to my "proven program." This is why you are so enraged that you spend day and night logging in ond out with various pseudonyms and starting thread after thread of "DJ abuses kids!" drivel. You're stuck like a pig and bleeding profusely and it shows plainly.
The best part? You have no way to stop it. Unfortunately you're dealing with a hydra about which you are only aware of the "Fornits head." So you go ahead and keep busy here while I do what I do best.
Your eroding Aspen profits.... :roflmao:
DJ, you lying son of a gun. What do you think that were all just a bunch of dumb turtles moping around after you. Ya, you would like to think so. Dude do not, "I repeat do not put up false information" to inflate your swollen ego or I will crush it like a grape. You obviously have had your brain fermenting in your own ego juice, thinking what ever trivial thesis your doing is helping.
Anyway you are such a liar, I will not waste anymore time on your false contributions. Your here DJ, on fornits be happy they accepted you.
Last but not least then, you will have no problem with some of us revealing your identity, Since you had such a impact on HLA in Georgia then your name should be available to post. I mean why not stand up and take a bow. No reason to hide, your name and address should be on the record. Since I happen to "really" know some of the main participants in the exposing of HLA, getting your name should not be hard.
You don't mind if I post it here do you, Mr. DJ, who lives in L.A. via NYC.
Oh and we must not forget that in the settlement $400,000.00 exchanged hands (supposedly) and they opened up just down the road a short time later under a different name plus a different company.
Ya, so you really accomplished a lot. Your closing lasted all of what 6 months.
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You just keep churning out your papers of extreme cases and will keep the engine turning on the great programs that are here in America.
Funny, I have never seen you even mention a "great American program." Care to provide a list of the "greats" for us, Danny?
All I've really seen you do is rant and rave about Anne's avatar's "cartoon crotch." That's probably your biggest "contribution" here, Danno, along with your other sexual and violent misogynistic rants about various and sundry female posters.
You are right, you have no idea what I have done in the TTI and you probably never will. I have no need to lie or embellish my talents, donations or work I do in my community, here on fornits or anywhere else for that matter.
My work here, (sometimes) is to make sure you tell the truth (which your super imposed ego will not let you) and that you do not abuse parents and children who want to post here.
The folks I am standing up for (supporting) seem to like what I have to say. Parents and children PM often to talk, they acknowledge my posting.
So your right I will continue to rant and rave when I see injustices happen here that I do not like. DJ if you don't like it, to bad. Deal with it.
Now lets talk about your contributions lately, not so good my friend. Someone who is as intelligent as you should not be caught up in the minutia that goes on here. Help us to help you.
You know I am not for a abusive programs, DJ, HLA needed to be closed down but guess what they opened right back up and just down the street. WTF.
Now is this a different style of program, are they using different methods and so on. No one really knows.
Ken Huey was trying to say he was using different methods, that he had evolved. Che and yourself blew him off, was this for past sins or his present actions. It seemed for past deeds.
DJ, if your for closing any kind of treatment program no matter how they are run, you and I are done now. Your living in a idealistic world that just does not support reality. Kids will need help and parents will not do it. That is a fact. I don't care how many times you try to get through to a parent they will find another resource to take care of their troubled child. Not all mind you but to many. So I accept this reality and want the best care to be available and the best care has been a ongoing task for decades.
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I'd like to say that I never once abused any child. Yes, I worked for HLA.
I was educated and trained how to work with kids and would never act outside the parameters of decency or professional norms.
Several kids from my caseload at HLA post here and never have said anything like that. In fact I just had a nice visit with two of them in L.A. I get invited to their weddings. I get birth announcements when they have children. I provide letters of recommendation and professional references for them.
I haven't "learned from my mistakes" because I never did anything to harm a child, ever.
Dysfunction admits he worked for a program that has its own subforum on fornits, and is generally known as abusive. Yet he claims that he never once abused a child, that the children liked him enough to remain friends with him, and he was properly trained and educated.
I post here and say I went through a program with its own subforum here, and was never abused. I say the staff were well meaning and that the program ended up saving my life. But for some reason when I post my experience, then I am "fiction". What kind of bizzarro world does dysfunction live in?
I took the opportunity to role play as a fornits poster, and post the way many posts are directed at me. It's not so fun when all the posts directed at you consist of conspiracy theories, trolling, and black and white thinking and baseless accusations, is it? Now maybe dysfunction understands how he comes off to posters that are trying to have a real conversation. But he seems persistent in his conspiracy that I am Whooter, and that I has some interest in programs.
Dysfunction trolls Whooter all the time about his financial interests in programs. So why is it wrong to bring up the fact Dysfunction made a lot of money directly for working for an abusive program? Surely if he can throw baseless accusations based on one quote, he can handle the fact that he made money from a program that he claims abuses and fleeces parents.
Here is a poster who claims programs are abusive, mindfucking, misery factories, but then claims when he worked for one that he never abused one child, and the kids are all buddy with him even today. It can't be both ways. I'm glad Dysfunction now admits that it's possible to be in a fornits subforum listed program and not be abused, and even have a positive experience. But why would he advise a 15 year old girl to runaway from home, rather than attend a program that has no history of abuse, when he himself admits that he was a professional employee that never abused a kid, and the kids are still grateful to him today? Then he dismissive someone for having a positive experience as "fiction".
Well the same black and white, extremists thinking that he uses against me, I displayed in this thread and others. If I was an extremist "survivor" then I would see him as an abusive profiteer. The fact that posters here hate someone like me who just experienced a program as a kid and know it helped, compared to someone who actually participated in the "imprisonment and abuse" of the youth, shows that people here have double standards depending on who is doing the talking. It's ridiculous and make having a conversation here very difficult, because their truth changes almost daily.
Whooly fucking shit batman, DJ could be Whooter and Whooter could be Danny and Danny could be Suck It and Suck IT could be Che. Are we just a bunch of impostures telling lies as the world turns.
Can we stop this carriage ride and get off, possibly start all over. Have we gone to far, so we can not forgive and forget.
Can we click our "red shoes" and go back to Kansas, wake up and pretend we did not mean what we said.
Has Whooter, Che, DJ, Suck IT, Paul and Danny done irreparable harm to each other that we can no longer have a mature conversation like grown men do. Do we have such dividing convictions that all conversation is mute.
Suck It, makes a great point, for all of us to think about. The truth has been changing quite frequently lately as we build cases against one another.
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Danny B wrote;
"Whooly fucking shit batman, DJ could be Whooter and Whooter could be Danny and Danny could be Suck It and Suck IT could be Che. Are we just a bunch of impostures telling lies as the world turns."
In a word?
Yes!
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IF YOU ABUSE KIDS FOR FREE IT MAKES YOU A BIGGER MAN. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Amazing isn't it DJ? You just know that you've struck a nerve with a programmie when they pull out the, "OMFG he's an abusive staffer" line. I expected anger from the kids who were in programs when I first started posting on fornits, and I saw some of it. But for the most part survivors have been very welcome to former staff who were willing to be open and candid about their experiences. Reasonable enough I guess, can't and won't ever blame them for being angry. But these attacks aren't about angry survivors, they are about asshurt programmies trying to troll an ex-staffer who is vocal about abusive programs trying to be trolled off a forum. I've seen this enough to know that in a week or so Mr. Tuck It will find something else to do.
Che you are mistaken, this was not your experience when you first got here and wasn't for some time. You were harassed horribly you were called incessantly, had letters sent to your home, folks rode by your home ect...wow where did I get all that info, from a very reliable source.
So lets just back that pony up and start your story again. Che you were not well liked and from your attitude and actions here, it pretty much makes sense.
Che your past is very checkered and littered with refugees, so please save your, "OH I WAS SO ACCEPTED, THEY EVEN HAD A TICKER TAPE PARADE DOWN BROADWAY FOR ME", speech.
I believe everyone deserves a second chance but ya still have to honest about your past.
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Che, people were riding by your house in Korea? Or was it China? I'm surprised they paid the international postage to send you hate mail and flew 14 hours on a plane and then rented cars to drive by, but I guess they did. Danny said so.
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How was I suppose to figure out that Wilderness programs run an average of 2 weeks and cost $6,000 and TBS’s run an average of 12 – 16 months and cost 70,000 – to -$100,000. If I knew that, then yeah I could agree that the TBS was "where the real money is".
I thought you said you had a Masters in Business Administration? MBA
Screw you whootie, I have more degrees than you do. Your an industry shill. I could have figured out the math too because yes I did get my MBA, its just that my calculator on my laptop is not functioning.
Look, DJ, calm down. You are the one claiming that I must have all this inside knowledge because I can figure out that TBS's cost more than Wilderness therapy. I just did the math for you thats all. If you feel only industry people have that type of knowledge than that is your right to think that way. I just think your wrong thats all. Any person claiming to have an MBA should be able to figure where the real money is between TBS and Wilderness.
Just stating my opinion, thats all.
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Che, people were riding by your house in Korea? Or was it China? I'm surprised they paid the international postage to send you hate mail and flew 14 hours on a plane and then rented cars to drive by, but I guess they did. Danny said so.
Jeesh, DJ that's right he left his abusive program got hooked up with Psy went to California came back, all the while he was in China. Man, I'm sorry I must of forgot he can mutate himself.
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Yeah, Danno. If you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know that Che flew in from KOREA to go to Benchmark. He did post it and all. If you go back and actually read something for once, you'd see he was on a vacation back to the States. There goes the "drive by" and "hate mail" theory. Oh well. Maybe you'll get him next time, Tiger.
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IF YOU ABUSE KIDS FOR FREE IT MAKES YOU A BIGGER MAN. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Amazing isn't it DJ? You just know that you've struck a nerve with a programmie when they pull out the, "OMFG he's an abusive staffer" line. I expected anger from the kids who were in programs when I first started posting on fornits, and I saw some of it. But for the most part survivors have been very welcome to former staff who were willing to be open and candid about their experiences. Reasonable enough I guess, can't and won't ever blame them for being angry. But these attacks aren't about angry survivors, they are about asshurt programmies trying to troll an ex-staffer who is vocal about abusive programs trying to be trolled off a forum. I've seen this enough to know that in a week or so Mr. Tuck It will find something else to do.
Che you are mistaken, this was not your experience when you first got here and wasn't for some time. You were harassed horribly you were called incessantly, had letters sent to your home, folks rode by your home ect...wow where did I get all that info, from a very reliable source.
So lets just back that pony up and start your story again. Che you were not well liked and from your attitude and actions here, it pretty much makes sense.
Che your past is very checkered and littered with refugees, so please save your, "OH I WAS SO ACCEPTED, THEY EVEN HAD A TICKER TAPE PARADE DOWN BROADWAY FOR ME", speech.
I believe everyone deserves a second chance but ya still have to honest about your past.
When I first came to fornits I was well accepted. I've never once had letters sent to my house and neither have I had anyone roll by my house. Stop making up stupid shit to look clever. The only source you have is that little drunken figment of your imagination.
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IF YOU ABUSE KIDS FOR FREE IT MAKES YOU A BIGGER MAN. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Amazing isn't it DJ? You just know that you've struck a nerve with a programmie when they pull out the, "OMFG he's an abusive staffer" line. I expected anger from the kids who were in programs when I first started posting on fornits, and I saw some of it. But for the most part survivors have been very welcome to former staff who were willing to be open and candid about their experiences. Reasonable enough I guess, can't and won't ever blame them for being angry. But these attacks aren't about angry survivors, they are about asshurt programmies trying to troll an ex-staffer who is vocal about abusive programs trying to be trolled off a forum. I've seen this enough to know that in a week or so Mr. Tuck It will find something else to do.
Che you are mistaken, this was not your experience when you first got here and wasn't for some time. You were harassed horribly you were called incessantly, had letters sent to your home, folks rode by your home ect...wow where did I get all that info, from a very reliable source.
So lets just back that pony up and start your story again. Che you were not well liked and from your attitude and actions here, it pretty much makes sense.
Che your past is very checkered and littered with refugees, so please save your, "OH I WAS SO ACCEPTED, THEY EVEN HAD A TICKER TAPE PARADE DOWN BROADWAY FOR ME", speech.
I believe everyone deserves a second chance but ya still have to honest about your past.
When I first came to fornits I was well accepted. I've never once had letters sent to my house and neither have I had anyone roll by my house. Stop making up stupid shit to look clever. The only source you have is that little drunken figment of your imagination.
Nope, your not being absolutely honest here and you know it. I got this information from someone you know very well. I could not make up all of that, Che. About the time of your apology letter.
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Say Danny, can you ask your mama when she's gonna pay me that money that she owes me? Bitch better have my cash!
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Yeah, Danno. If you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know that Che flew in from KOREA to go to Benchmark. He did post it and all. If you go back and actually read something for once, you'd see he was on a vacation back to the States. There goes the "drive by" and "hate mail" theory. Oh well. Maybe you'll get him next time, Tiger.
Ya and the person who gave me this info, who you know very well is full of crap also. I may have my sequence of events and as to when it exactly happened off line a bit but I do have it from a very reliable source that he endured his share of wrath from unhappy folks.
DJ, you can keep massaging his johnson all ya want but it will not help you with the facts.
You are a lying troll who has tried to turn fornits into your own personal circus and some of us don't like it.
CheeriOooooo.......
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Yea, and who the hell are you????
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Yea, and who the hell are you????
Styla...can ya read. None-Ya that is no way to greet our new guest.
Howa'bout, howdy doody ya lill` rascal.
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IF YOU ABUSE KIDS FOR FREE IT MAKES YOU A BIGGER MAN. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Amazing isn't it DJ? You just know that you've struck a nerve with a programmie when they pull out the, "OMFG he's an abusive staffer" line. I expected anger from the kids who were in programs when I first started posting on fornits, and I saw some of it. But for the most part survivors have been very welcome to former staff who were willing to be open and candid about their experiences. Reasonable enough I guess, can't and won't ever blame them for being angry. But these attacks aren't about angry survivors, they are about asshurt programmies trying to troll an ex-staffer who is vocal about abusive programs trying to be trolled off a forum. I've seen this enough to know that in a week or so Mr. Tuck It will find something else to do.
Che you are mistaken, this was not your experience when you first got here and wasn't for some time. You were harassed horribly you were called incessantly, had letters sent to your home, folks rode by your home ect...wow where did I get all that info, from a very reliable source.
So lets just back that pony up and start your story again. Che you were not well liked and from your attitude and actions here, it pretty much makes sense.
Che your past is very checkered and littered with refugees, so please save your, "OH I WAS SO ACCEPTED, THEY EVEN HAD A TICKER TAPE PARADE DOWN BROADWAY FOR ME", speech.
I believe everyone deserves a second chance but ya still have to honest about your past.
When I first came to fornits I was well accepted. I've never once had letters sent to my house and neither have I had anyone roll by my house. Stop making up stupid shit to look clever. The only source you have is that little drunken figment of your imagination.
Nope, your not being absolutely honest here and you know it. I got this information from someone you know very well. I could not make up all of that, Che. About the time of your apology letter.
We both know what dark rancid fetid secret you are hiding. The person who told me used to live right in your own home. Yep, that's right folks.. Danny has a family member speaking with Fornit's regulars about Danny's deranged internet behavior spilling over into real life. This person is quite the authority on Danny's many past transgressions and brushes with various authorities.
All quite sad.. very sad..
Hopefully you'll make it past an entire sentence before meandering on aimlessly. You now have my permission to reply, I'm going to get back on skype and talk to this family of yours more. Do not expect a reply back from me given the disgusting nature of your heinous deeds.
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IF YOU ABUSE KIDS FOR FREE IT MAKES YOU A BIGGER MAN. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Amazing isn't it DJ? You just know that you've struck a nerve with a programmie when they pull out the, "OMFG he's an abusive staffer" line. I expected anger from the kids who were in programs when I first started posting on fornits, and I saw some of it. But for the most part survivors have been very welcome to former staff who were willing to be open and candid about their experiences. Reasonable enough I guess, can't and won't ever blame them for being angry. But these attacks aren't about angry survivors, they are about asshurt programmies trying to troll an ex-staffer who is vocal about abusive programs trying to be trolled off a forum. I've seen this enough to know that in a week or so Mr. Tuck It will find something else to do.
Che you are mistaken, this was not your experience when you first got here and wasn't for some time. You were harassed horribly you were called incessantly, had letters sent to your home, folks rode by your home ect...wow where did I get all that info, from a very reliable source.
So lets just back that pony up and start your story again. Che you were not well liked and from your attitude and actions here, it pretty much makes sense.
Che your past is very checkered and littered with refugees, so please save your, "OH I WAS SO ACCEPTED, THEY EVEN HAD A TICKER TAPE PARADE DOWN BROADWAY FOR ME", speech.
I believe everyone deserves a second chance but ya still have to honest about your past.
When I first came to fornits I was well accepted. I've never once had letters sent to my house and neither have I had anyone roll by my house. Stop making up stupid shit to look clever. The only source you have is that little drunken figment of your imagination.
Nope, your not being absolutely honest here and you know it. I got this information from someone you know very well. I could not make up all of that, Che. About the time of your apology letter.
We both know what dark rancid fetid secret you are hiding. The person who told me used to live right in your own home. Yep, that's right folks.. Danny has a family member speaking with Fornit's regulars about Danny's deranged internet behavior spilling over into real life. This person is quite the authority on Danny's many past transgressions and brushes with various authorities.
All quite sad.. very sad..
Hopefully you'll make it past an entire sentence before meandering on aimlessly. You now have my permission to reply, I'm going to get back on skype and talk to this family of yours more. Do not expect a reply back from me given the disgusting nature of your heinous deeds.
Che, Antigen told me. Is that fair enough, it is no big secrete here. How you were harassed, why do you have to act like a asshole about it. I was not trying to put you down, I was just making a point that you will lie to serve some stupid egotistical purpose. Now maybe it did not all happen here (fornits) necessarily but the fact remains you were not well received,as you say.
This is the problem here Che, you of all people should know letting your emotions over take your intellect will always backfire.
DJ and yourself are two prime examples, two folks with experience and intellect in the TTI realm and they are considered idiots here on fornits. Now in your minds you may not even contemplate this at all into your overall resume of how the public perceives you because your other friends and associates don't read fornits. Well guys if this is true then I hope your double life is working for you. I on the other hand have everyone who knows me through my associations with Treatment Centers, Homeless Shelters, Jails, Prisons, ect...read my posts here on fornits, as a matter of fact most were already familiar with fornits.
My two ego driven asslicking friends, it is always so much better just to be who you are, so you can tell who are your friends.
Aaron, if I didn't know better I would not doubt this is very much the reason you drink like a fish and remain single. Not that your a loser, you just don't know the difference.
Was this on point enough, Che.
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I was not harassed when I came to fornits. No one sent me threatening letters, no one rolled by my house, no one called me, and no one did much of anything to me. This doesn't delve anywhere near my ego, it stems entirely from you spewing some truly wacked out shit. Whatever you think ginger told you, or whatever you are claiming she told you is off base.
When I posted my first post on fornits people seemed fairly interested to hear what I had to say. Whether they liked me or not is besides the point as I wasn't harassed in any of the ways you are fabricating.
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I was not harassed when I came to fornits. No one sent me threatening letters, no one rolled by my house, no one called me, and no one did much of anything to me. This doesn't delve anywhere near my ego, it stems entirely from you spewing some truly wacked out shit. Whatever you think ginger told you, or whatever you are claiming she told you is off base.
When I posted my first post on fornits people seemed fairly interested to hear what I had to say. Whether they liked me or not is besides the point as I wasn't harassed in any of the ways you are fabricating.
Che, were done on this thread. Hey if you feel it never happened, by all means it never happened. ::) ::)