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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 15, 2006, 10:53:00 AM
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"Instead of the pizza -- uh -- coming to you... we'll come and pick the pizza up -- and uhm -- take it... let it get cooked for a little while... in that type of sense. 'Till it's ready to come home and then -- uhm -- get a brand new hot and good hot pizza."
Randall Hinton
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"Violence. As in violent kids, violent staff, violent programs.. uh, yeah."
Randall Hinton
"He was pepersprayed by myself and Jay Kay"
Randall Hinton
"I think I can remember Carey Lane being pepper sprayed more than once in a day. I know he was pepper sprayed more than two times in one day... I don't think it would have been more than three times."
Randall Hinton
"But.. I'm sure...I know he didn't like it. I didn't like it. And... from somebody on the outside looking in, I would say it would be abusive."
Randall Hinton
Randall Hinton
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"Restraints could be used, mechanical devices could be used, pepper spray could be used... to... gain control of your child.... it's just a job, that helps people...."
Randall Hinton
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What do they mean by mechanical devices anyway? That sounds so fucking crude.
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I believe mechanical devices includes physical restraining beds and devices, which WWASP used at Brightway Adolescent Hospital on a regular basis. Perhaps they're also reserving the right to taser or shock kids, or maybe that covers the right to have locks on isolation units such as the Hobbit at SCL or the dog cages at Casa by the Sea.
And that pizza analogy, geez. That guy needs a spokesperson' and really no WWASP head honchos should speak on camera. So in his words, they would fly to your state and home to pick up some raw dough and then cook it for awhile in Jamaica or the Midwest, and then send it back to you three years later cooked and you'd be like, oh, great, I paid $126,000.00 to get this crusty pizza. I'm totally in debt, even the pizza hates me, the brochure lied, and delivery took 2 years longer than promised. Total ignorance.
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And that pizza analogy, geez. That guy needs a spokesperson' and really no WWASP head honchos should speak on camera. So in his words, they would fly to your state and home to pick up some raw dough and then cook it for awhile in Jamaica or the Midwest, and then send it back to you three years later cooked and you'd be like, oh, great, I paid $126,000.00 to get this crusty pizza. I'm totally in debt, even the pizza hates me, the brochure lied, and delivery took 2 years longer than promised. Total ignorance.
::noway:: :nworthy: ::nod:: ::nod:: ::nod::
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Does anyone know anything about NIBH (North Idaho Behavioral Health)? Spring Creek send a lot of kids there when they became too "suicidal" or did something extreme to hurt themselves. Some came back, some didn't. Their website doesn't say much about them, and although they are affliated with Kootenai Medical Center, I wonder if they are connected at all to WWASP financially.
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Okay. Well that's comforting. Thanks for the info.
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Okay. Well that's comforting. Thanks for the info.
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Exit Plan, you can't be serious:
"Even though I had left the program it still fucked up my family life."
Your family life was idyllic to begin with, and that's why you ended up at a program, and then a hospital? And I suppose a program made you get kicked out of your own house?
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On 2006-04-15 09:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I believe mechanical devices includes physical restraining beds and devices, which WWASP used at Brightway Adolescent Hospital on a regular basis. Perhaps they're also reserving the right to taser or shock kids, or maybe that covers the right to have locks on isolation units such as the Hobbit at SCL or the dog cages at Casa by the Sea.
And that pizza analogy, geez. That guy needs a spokesperson' and really no WWASP head honchos should speak on camera. So in his words, they would fly to your state and home to pick up some raw dough and then cook it for awhile in Jamaica or the Midwest, and then send it back to you three years later cooked and you'd be like, oh, great, I paid $126,000.00 to get this crusty pizza. I'm totally in debt, even the pizza hates me, the brochure lied, and delivery took 2 years longer than promised. Total ignorance. "
You can always tell the ones who've never seen it. The "Hobbit" never had locks. The inside rooms didn't even have doors. Drama-Rama, once again.
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http://www.crosscreekprogram.com/ccc/employees.asp (http://www.crosscreekprogram.com/ccc/employees.asp)
Go here to read about Cross Creek's "principle" (it should be principal). What an accurate representation of the half-ass education they provide. I've taken the liberty of editing.
"Andrea Gardner
Principle/Academic Director
Principle/Academic Director of Cross Creek Academy, the academic department of Cross Creek Programs {needs a comma} is Andrea Gardner. She holds a BS in Education, a {should be "an"} MS in Science, as well as an Administrator/Supervisor License. She brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the program { :wstupid:
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http://www.crosscreekprogram.com/ccc/tr ... erview.asp (http://www.crosscreekprogram.com/ccc/troubled_teens_therapy_overview.asp)
Why is the therapist in the picture typing on his computer while ignoring the two kids in his cramped office?
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It probably depends on when you were at SCL. In '04, '05 there were several "hobbits". The boy's hobbit (while I was there anyway) had three rooms without doors and a hallway outside of them, then a door. The girl's hobbit was similar, except there were two rooms. Then there was a building split in half to form two rooms with two seperate entrances, one had two wooden bunks in it and the other had chairs in it. These rooms had locks and doors. I'm sure things are constantly changing, but regardless, doors/locks or not, isolation is not a healthy thing.
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What bothers me the most is that a large portion of the kids that end up in isolation are there because they can't easily swallow or repress their anger like the rest can. They need people to actually listen to them and they need an outlet to channel their emotions into, but all they get is a bare wall, cold food, and staff restraining them constantly. They don't get to go to group or do school or watch movies...isolation just makes them more angry. It's the dumbest fucking way I have ever heard to make someone "behave."
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and I didn't log in lol and I meant '03, '04 before to clarify that.
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On 2006-04-15 14:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What bothers me the most is that a large portion of the kids that end up in isolation are there because they can't easily swallow or repress their anger like the rest can. They need people to actually listen to them and they need an outlet to channel their emotions into, but all they get is a bare wall, cold food, and staff restraining them constantly. They don't get to go to group or do school or watch movies...isolation just makes them more angry. It's the dumbest fucking way I have ever heard to make someone "behave." "
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People are being treated like animals; they need psychological counseling and humane consequences that will allow them to learn how to make better choices in the future. In schools, kids sometimes choose isolation in a predetermined spot when they need a safe place to calm down and plan what they are going to do next when they become angry and agitated. Isolation should be voluntary, unlocked, and used as an opportunity rather than a punishment.
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My son was a kid who spent weeks and months in work sheets and the Hobbit. Then they sent him to Jamaica.
They lie. They lie. They lie.