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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Seed Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Antigen on September 01, 2006, 12:58:47 PM
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Didn't Art and Shelly owned property in Isle of Capri and had ties to the local race tracks? Anybody know if/how those deal may tie in w/ Isle of Capri Casinos?
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The PBA Connection
By Brian E. Crowley | Thursday, August 31, 2006, 08:00 AM
A political organization with links to Charlie Crist is spending more than $1.3 million on a new ad that questions the ethics of his opponent for the Republican nomination for governor, Tom Gallagher.
The 30-second ad is being paid for by Floridians for Truth and Integrity, a group that has officers linked to the Police Benevolent Association, which has endorsed Crist, and a registered agent who has contributed to Crist?s campaign, according to filings with the Internal Revenue Service and the state Division of Elections. And two people who have made major contributions to the group, directly or indirectly, are a friend of Crist?s and the relative of a political staffer.
A source familiar with Floridians for Truth said the organization is spending $1.3 million on the ad, which began airing in Miami Tuesday and began appearing statewide on Wednesday.
The ad opens with a picture of a house and a male announcer saying, ?Home insurance costs skyrocket.? As newspaper snippets scroll by on the screen, the announcer continues, ?Voters discover Tom Gallagher is under investigation for owning insurance stocks while state commissioner. Tom Gallagher?s trading in the stocks of insurance companies while he was insurance commissioner is clearly a conflict of interest. His behavior undermines public confidence. Now the Florida Ethics Commission rules there is probable cause Tom Gallagher violated the law trading insurance stocks he regulated. With a long history of poor judgment and ethical lapses, how can we ever trust Tom Gallagher again??
Taken individually, the ad?s sentences are largely factual, but taken together, they imply something that is not true. Chief Financial Officer Gallagher did trade insurance stocks while insurance commissioner, but no one has suggested that his actions had anything to do with the increasing cost of insurance.
The ad started a week after a pro-Gallagher group began running its own ad. The Coalition to Protect the American Dream, which had about $600,000 left in its account at the end of the Aug. 11 reporting period, is airing a modified version of Gallagher?s own original ad attacking Crist for being too liberal.
Floridians for Truth and Integrity in Government had $2.1 million in campaign cash as of Aug. 11, according to the Florida elections division. Most of the money was first funneled through another organization, Floridians for a Better and Brighter Future, which transferred $1.3 million to Truth.
According to state records, TECO Energy Inc. has given Truth $100,000; Pompano Beach-based PPI Inc., a property of Isle of Capri Casinos Inc., gave it $100,000; and Brent Sembler, a Pinellas Park developer and a college friend of Crist, contributed $25,000.
Brighter Future got $750,000 from Cape Coral developer Greg Eagle, whose son Dane is Crist?s travel aide. Greg Eagle did not return calls seeking comment.
Brighter Future was created by Virginia-based Christopher LaCivita, who produced the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ads that attacked Democrat John Kerry during the 2004 presidential race.
Joseph R. Buchanan of Miami is listed as the registered agent for the group, and state records show he gave Crist a $500 contribution on June 2, 2005.
Crist?s campaign had little to say about the ad. Spokeswoman Erin Isaac said only, ?It looks to be factually accurate to me.?
Gallagher spokesman Alberto Martinez called the ad ?disappointing but not surprising.?
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You are so off base. No conection what so ever. You connect too many dots...
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Ginger...I think you have taken another 3 hour tour to your island.
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well, yes Art did live on the Isle of Capri.
Brent Sembler is well known to people on this board, that much I will say.
Charlie Crist's father was on the St Pete "seed advisory committee".
What is the connection? I don't know if there is one. Searching "isle of capri as a corporate name, you get...
ISLE OF CAPRI CASINOS, INC. F93000003062 ACT
ISLE OF CAPRI CIVIC ASSOCIATION, INC. 700370 ACT
ISLE OF CAPRI FURNITURE, INC. P03000054029 ACT
ISLE OF CAPRI NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, INC. N94000003443 ACT
ISLE OF CAPRI PARTNERS LTD. A94000001543 INACT
ISLE OF CAPRI RESEARCH & ENGINEERING, L.L.C. L00000009618 ACT
ISLE OF CAPRI RESTAURANT, INC. 505998 INACT
ISLE OF CAPRI YACHT CHARTERS, INC.
The officers of "isle of capri casinos, Inc. Seem to have a connection to Biloxi, Miss. I do not recognize any of their names.
HINKLEY, TIMOTHY M
1641 POPPS FERRY RD., STE. B-1
BILOXI MS 39532 P
GOLDSTEIN, BERNARD
4001 N. OCEAN BLVD.
BOCA RATON FL CD
SOLOMON, ALLAN B.
2200 CORP. BLVD., NW STE. 310
BOCA RATON FL VAS
GOLDSTEIN, ROBERT
555 N NEW BALLAS ROAD #150
ST LOUIS MO 63141 D
MITCHELL, DONN
1641 POPPS FERRY RD
BILOXI MS 39532 VPT
CRYSTAL, EMANUEL
1404 ALLEN STREET
JACKSON MS 39225
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Art once looked at the moon. Maybe there is some conection with the moon over Miami and the astronauts visited the moon therefore Art has ties with Aliens and Tom Cruise. :P :P :P
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are you saying 'looking at the moon' is a possible connection equal to the possible connectin of a son of a former seed advisory council member who is a politician, his buddy who's father was a seed parent, and a company named after the neighborhood of Art Barker?
Interesting.....
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Actually its a street not a neighborhood. Please get some of the facts straight. "no pun intended" :P
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okay, then please account for this.
ISLE OF CAPRI NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, INC. N94000003443 ACT
Suddenly, I feel time warped back to the "art Barker's PHD" thread.
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oops, Your right. My apologies.
Individual Streets (Unassociated with HOA)
· Bontana Avenue
· East Las Olas Boulevard
· Isle of Capri
· Mola Avenue
· Navarro Isle
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Could you please say that again... I have not heard that on this site.
:D just kiddin
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Isle of Capri Neighborhood Association is actually for another neighborhood a little north of there.
Oops. Your right. My apologies.
(again, for you. ::bigsmilebounce:: )
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Tis the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a notion without accepting it.
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Whether he's really a Seedling or not - Charlie Crist won the republican primary for a spot on November ballot.
Stripe
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the question addressed..ie: why was your father on the Seed advisory board? Why did someone from your background go to junior college? Did you miss some time in high school that is unaccounted for? Did you spend at least some of your high school time in Ft Lauderdale? Were you in The Seed?
Those questions may come up between now and then.
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Man! Excellent questions, all!
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Now whos fucking with other peoples lives?
You all are a piece of work!!!
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I am sure you mean "pieces" of work.
:lol:
In all seriousness, who are you speaking of? I am not aware of anyone on this message site "interfering" with anyone's life, including any politician.
I will say this, if you google Charlie crists name and "the seed" you will already see that it has been brought up in other venues, not by us and certainly not by me. I couldn't care less where Charlie spent his teenage years and I certainly believe that people who went thru what we went thru 30 years ago don't deserve to have it dredged up in their adult years. To that end, I would never broach this topic. Ever.
There is another side to this however. Charlie Crist, in his capacity as a politician in Florida and specifically as Attorny general has had evidence for years of these places and the allegations of abuse, brainwashing, illegal inprisonment etc. Certainly, with his father serving on the seed advisory committe in St Pete in the early 70s, the modality is no stranger to the Crist family. Crist also says he is continuing in the tradition of Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush sat on the board of directors of a seed knock off program called SAFE, Inc. as early as just a few years ago. However, when his own daughter was arrested on Drug charges, she went into treatment in a different facility. Is that of public interest? Why would he not put his own kid in synanon style confrontation 'treatment'? What were his reasons, and how does that comport with his position as a director of one such facility? Interesting political questions, no? you see, here we are comparing a politicians personal life to public sector decisions he makes. This is politics, and if you like this sort of thing, then you will understand why the subject of Crist's possible connection to this style of treatment is coming up in other venues.
Now, if these people who set public policy have a personal interest in perpetuating a system that has been accused of abusing children for over thirty years, and some of these people have a personal connection to said system, is it the public's right to know this? There are many people not connected to people who frequent this message site that are attempting to end the crimes of the "teen help industry". Right here in Florida, we have had injuries and even deaths at the hands of synanon based treatment facilites and recently had one at the hand of "teen boot camp". The allegations of mental torture and abuse can be found right here on this website. All of these places operate under the assumption that abusing children is necessary to "HELP" them.
So, that people (not people from this website mind you) are calling bullshit on this is their right. When you decide to enter the political arena you understand that your positions on certain matters will be compared to your personal experiences. That is part of the political game.
So, coming full circle in this conversation. I Personally won't involve myself in this subject, and I wish any politician, or for that matter any private person with a past in involuntary lock down as a child for crimes of culture clash, well I personally wish them peace and privacy. However, when these people engage themselves in public life and do things that go on to perpetuate the "teen help industry" then maybe, just maybe, they are going to end up answering to some personal questions pertaining to it. Not by me, mind you, but by people with political axes to grind.
That is out of my area of interest, but I understand both sides. You will never see me 'outing' anyone who was in the Seed. I don't think that is right, appropriate, nice or even fair. Nor, even if I was so inclined, do I personally know whether Charlie Crist was one of the early St Petersburg kids that went to the Seed Ft. Lauderdale. Nor do I personally care. I don't know him and don't wish to involve myself in his life, politics, neither or both.
Does that help you clear up anything? Do you still want to insult people here, or is your anger perhaps misguided?
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Now whos fucking with other peoples lives?
You all are a piece of work!!!
In response, I suppose it is unrealistic to expect any politician to respond to such an inquiry. But then again, if one has nothing to hide, then there's no problem. Most of the people posting here have owned up to their involvement in the mess and are no worse off for doing so.
If there is any truth to his involvement, then I think he should own up to it. As any attorney general should know, it's not a crime to be a victim of a crime.
But, get this: He's taking money from nearly every single frigging Sembler business entity in Florida - SIXTY-SEVEN - to the tune of $33,499.68 over about a ten day period during the month of June, 2006. Let me add also the TSCPR Family Partnership for another $1000 - again a Semberl company located at 5858 Central Avenue in St. Pete, plus an additional $500 each from two of TSCPR Florida, Inc. corporate officers Craig Sher and Jeffrey S. Fugua.
Let's just say that even IF he disagreed with the past philosophy and was forced in and held against his personal choice like so many others, or even IF he disagrees with the current day therapeutic treatment model - he would be hard pressed to express those opinions publicly. He's in too deep with these folks.
See http://election.dos.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/contrib.exe (http://election.dos.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/contrib.exe)
So, has he been bought? I guess that depends on where we draw the line. Just for kicks, I note that Crist also receives money from a couple of drug testing business and another 527 charitable/education drug org. as well. So, if you still think he's not in someone's pocket, yerfoolinyerself.
It's legal, no quesiton about it. But money talks. And of course, bullshit walks. In this case, all the way to the governor's house in Tallahassee.
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In response, I suppose it is unrealistic to expect any politician to respond to such an inquiry. But then again, if one has nothing to hide, then there's no problem. Most of the people posting here have owned up to their involvement in the mess and are no worse off for doing so.
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See, I don't necessarily agree with that,especially IF he was there AND he was there involuntarily. I respect the right of all people to keep this private and would not do anything personally to inhibit that desire.
It does become a matter of political interest, However, when he is receiving money from the Semblers, who fund The Drug free america Foundation, which also referrs people to...ding..ding..ding...
Seed based treatment facilities like SAFE, Kids helping Kids and others. These treatment facilities trace their lineage right back to the Seed. Directly.
Notwhithstanding, The Drug Free America Foundation is Really Striaght, Inc.
Yep, its true. THE DFAF is the exact same corporation that ran Straight, Inc. they just changed the name to DFAF. lookie....
DRUG FREE AMERICA FOUNDATION, INC.
Document Number
735636 Date Filed
04/22/1976 Effective Date
None Status
Active
EVENT TYPE FILED
DATE EFFECTIVE
DATE DESCRIPTION
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NAME CHANGE 12/05/1995 OLD NAME WAS : THE STRAIGHT FOUNDAT
AMENDMENT ION, INC.
NAME CHANGE 09/26/1985 OLD NAME WAS : STRAIGHT, INC.
AMENDMENT
FOUNDERS
Ambassador Mel Sembler
Betty S. Sembler
The DFAF actively refers people to Seed style treatment facilities. Charlie crist is best friends, and a recipient of over 30,000 dollars from Sembler and his companies directed towards his election account.
Is anyone starting to get why this is of political interest? I personally am not interested, but I certainly understand why I think it will be addressed during this election.
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Well, like I wrote, it's not crime to be the victim of a crime. And you are right, Greg. "Outing" someone is neither polite nor kind. However, just because you chose to take the high road does not mean that the fact of one's involvement with the seed, or straight or any other program does not mean that it won't be held against them. By the public and by program proponents.
It goes to the issue of credibilty, and when a politician avoids the questions, and avoids the issues, well in my book, he or she loses creditiblity.
I know being an ex-seedy is no big deal in the grand scheme of things. It's closed chapter for most. Especially Betty Sembler - who advises us all to "get over it." But program involvement is a two edged sword wielded by the likes of Betty and Mel Sembler and all of the other proponents of these programs.
Oh? You were in the seed? Straight? SAFE? As that line of thinking goes - you must be bitter or angry, or mentally deranged because you dare to quesiton the morality of what these places do people. It follows then that nothing you say, no argument you put forth is credible because.....you were a "druggie".
I think the guy needs to answer questions. Questions about his campaign support from the Sembler machine and about why, as Attorney General, he has chosen to look the otherway when he has had opportunities to take action and stop the abuses.
Oh sure, he can jack someone for selling over-priced generators or gas gouging in hurricane panics. But hey, that's easy because the citizens call and complain, everyone is behind it and it's got full and complete public support.
Not so with the drug programs. That subject is difficult, unpopular and dirty. It appears that for Charlie, it's easier to just take the blood money and look the other way.
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Which is why he is garnerning interest from those in political circles interested in stopping the madness.
Also, you forgot one thing usually pegged on an ex programite...whether it be 'seedling' , 'safeling' , 'straightling', or whatever 'ling' you are unfortunate enough to have in your background.
When people know it, they assume you are a former addict, that you really really *needed* help. You are forever assigned all the myths that go along with addiction, even tho you probably were never an addict. "once an addict, always an addict". "One more X and he/she will be right back", etc. "he/she has a disease", etc etc. You now own all the drug war lies and myths told over the last fifty years.
I imagine any politician with this background would guard it fiercely. I cannot understand what would motivate a politician with this background to accept money from people who founded "straight Inc." , are connected right back to The Seed St Pete. and by proxy to his father and the seed advisory board, and participate actively, 30 years later, in supporting these type places.
It almost sounds like a political death wish, IMO. For this reason, and this reason alone, I have my doubts he was ever in the Seed. If he was, he would be insane to associate with the Semblers, at least publically. And I too think he will be answering hard questions at some point by some reporter that is interested in the entire Teen Help industry saga.
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reply not to all and sundry, simply stripe, ginger, greg.. hey! having some difficulty containing my rage, so plz forgive, i'll try to talk reasonable.. first, not in order.. ginger.. you are one hell of a researcher. that's what's needed to get to the bottom of this, it's an ongoing racket, not so much different than the ku klux, or the national so0cialist worker party or thier kin, .. enough already, i've paid enough of a price for their beliefs.. so haVE YOU.. SECOND STRIPE didn't mean to yell.. yes you are absolutely right.. hard to say, so i'll just try.. one of the prices i've paid in my life is this.. i was, through false evidence, labeled a 'druggie', a liar.. and yet..i was raised in military tradition, such that your word was your entire identity.. it wasn't that i didnn't smoke rope, and i never denied it, especially when there might be consequence.. i simlpy wasn't a liar, and i took pride in that.. i did what i did, thought what i thought, said what i said.. no apologies. another and equal imperative was that i must never betray another.. so when they forced me to tell stories about 'drug use' welll, the name was never exact, , the time was never exact, the drug used could never be corroborated, no evidentiary chain could be established, so they wopuld look like fools if they tried.. and they did, and i was beaten for it.. these people were absolutely the worst gangsters i have ever seen, always looking to get someone else to harm, someone to suborn, blackmail, to turn-out.. one of the hardest things i've done yet is to face extensive background check as an adult, for a clearance.. the fear was immense.. and yet.. I'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG! IT'S TIME WE ALL TURNED ON THEM.. a burn can run both ways.
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Now whos fucking with other peoples lives?
You all are a piece of work!!!
It's a hard thing to be a politician cause you gotta walk that narrow line. I think the public has a right to know the influences of the people in whom they vest public trust.
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I though I should check to Tom Gallager's campaign contribution records to see if he received any support from the Semblers. Alas, Tom - one too many political makeovers made you an unpopular guy in the Sembler camp. Tom G. did not garner any political contributions from the Sembers even though he was also a republican candidate for a place on the November ballot. So, it's Charile all the way and not die-hard republican support.
It is interesting to note that the current republican candidate for Attorney General, Mr. Bill McCollum, has only recieved $2,100 from the Sember groups. However, Tom Lee, republican candidate for Florida's Chief Financial Officer position has received $11,000 in Sembler group contributions. Charlie Bronson, republican candidate for State Agricultrual Commissioner has only received $500.
What should we think?