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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on December 04, 2010, 03:10:22 PM
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I worked at a wilderness program (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31636&start=30#p388202)
Well fornits sure ain't what it used to be. Expensive program lawyers, powerful law firms, Sue Scheff and Co., nobody could shut down fornits and kill it's spirit, that is, until Psy took over. We have been told we are being protected for our own good with the numerous restrictions imposed by Psy, but the evidence shows now that it only hurts fornits, and the ability to have discussions, which is the entire point of this place to begin with.
Now we have program staff censoring, moving and chopping up our posts. They get to decide whether we are "on topic" enough, or if our posts should remain. I find this repugnant, and I truly wonder whether the owner of fornits had a seizure, or what. It's like fornits has entered upside down world, where staffers are still in control, and survivors get banned for saying the wrong thing.
Does anybody else remember the old days of fornits? When it was tan and orange, and you could post anonymously and your avatar would be a paper bag head? Fornits actually served a useful purpose back then, when the people who created the content on fornits retained the ability to post where they wanted, about whatever they wanted, and respond to whomever they felt like. Now it feels like fornits is run by an obsessive compulsive, communist. Or perhaps, program staff.
Psy isn't even a program survivor. He was an adult who signed himself into drug treatment, a program for 18-27 year olds. His entire program was payed for courtesy of you and me, the US taxpayer. He could have walked out at any point. He was never abused, or mistreated. He thinks he got duped into signing himself into treatment, sorry, but stupidity and such child like acquiescence to parents demands does not make you a survivor.
So we have an adult who went to rehab, and wasn't abused, running fornits, and who does he pick for his main censor/moderator? A program staffer. Fornits has been getting slower and slower, and posters have left in droves. The reason is simple, restricting speech does not, and will not work. Fornits must return itself to it's original ideals of free speech and expression if it expects to stay relevant, and online. Ursus, Troll Patrol, Anne Bonne and Robert Bruce arguing with Whooter, is all that is left of fornits.
It's not too late. Remove Psy as admin, remove all moderators and all moderation and go back to the orange/tan color scheme. Otherwise fornits will eventually suffer the fate of every other forum Psy has had control of, it will die.
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If Fornits could be run without being hit by tons of spam, porn etc. which scare the important viewers off (which is parents and other people trying to seek a desperate solution for their kids), then the moderation should go.
I have asked for moderation several times and my arguments was shut down by both Psy and Ginger. Suddenly one they did choose otherwise. I disagree with some of their actions. A lot of my posts in the "Open Free for All" got burried when they locked this sub-forum instead of making a new one for a special purpose, but I have to accept it. It is their message board. It is their money which keeps it open. Maybe they have altered their opinion based on the trouble with CALO. How far can you go when we are talking the right to free speech? Not so far as we think. Even here in Denmark things are changing. A member of our parliament was fined because he spoke out against honor killings (http://http://wp.me/pqyOF-55).
It you dont like the trend on Fornits, there are other message boards. Anti-wwasp is open. Troubled Teen industry is open. Fican is open.
But I also feel that the blogs have taken over. When people are telling their stories, they can get the message out in a blog. When we at Spft work to supply the wiki with information we often speak with survivors and get them to create a new blog rather than having them post on a message board where their story would be buried in pro-program thread in seconds.
We believe that getting the story of anyone told is important, so we support syndicating of stories like they do in the Swedish controlled Tales from the Black school blog (http://http://tales-from-the-black-school.blogspot.com/).
I feel that there is a large potential in quoting good testimonies and republish them in a new environment. Actually the industry does the same, so it could be the next big thing now where the message boards themselves are somewhat tamed.
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Seems all I ever see is Whooter acting out.
BS in the Elan thread by the master of screen names, and his puppet
and my response to them
People dont want to read that garbage. I will say that the "Freedom of speech" is a god given right. But it was not meant to protect an abuser from justice. As a result of this, and failure to reign in the abusers,many people that used to post here are simply ot interested.
Also,the asscociation of their names,statements,and horrible things said about them, picked up by google has made several stay away permenently
Which will soon be my next step
Regards
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If Fornits could be run without being hit by tons of spam, porn etc. which scare the important viewers off (which is parents and other people trying to seek a desperate solution for their kids), then the moderation should go.
Something needed to be done about what the board had become if it was to be a place where any kind of meaningful dialog and debate could take place. It does seem that things have gone to far the other way. I'd advise trying to find a minimal level of moderating to keep the board from becoming useless swill. I have always advocated as much. The problem seems to be (as Ginger always said it would be) who gets to decide?
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Does anybody else remember the old days of fornits? When it was tan and orange, and you could post anonymously and your avatar would be a paper bag head?
Yes, I do, and I even saved a lot of those pages (the whole page, not just bookmarks) because I had an intermittent connection back then (used dial-up, had to keep the line open sometimes) and did a lot of reading off line.. yeah i remember it.. it was cool aside from the fact that there were security issues, technically speaking. I agree that a lot of the moderation seems to be an exercise in futility, but don't really see it as doing that much harm. Perhaps there is something more important to complain about?
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I, too, miss the old days. It's hard to realize those days are over,but I think the devolution of Fornits was a confluence of factors and can't be placed squarely on Psy's shoulders.
The spirit of Fornits began to disintegrate when more people were permitted to moderate - not all of them acquainted with a program, a sense of discretion, or a sense of camaraderie. In the old days, things could get raw and a but wild, but there was an underlying sense of solidarity. Things that undermined this was:
1. Sustained infighting between moderators.
2. Serious discretionary violations from new moderators. Even if pro program people were targeted, it undermined trust and the willingness to put your stuff out there.
3. Whooter's persistent and pervasive flooding, misdirecting, and derailing. Many of us, myself included, have responded, perhaps stupidly so. But it was difficult not to because he effectively eroded the spirit and purpose of this site with his deluge of sabotage. (Yeah, I don't need to get into a big brouhaha with Whooter, but I do think his presence has had a significant negative impact.)
The combination of these factors created a clusterfuck of devolutionary proportion. Probably the Straight crew is strongest. But I've heard a few say they would never have shared what they've shared here initially if they walked into the current environment. I wouldn't have either. It's a shame, because the sense of validation and support this site initially offered was tremendous, and I'm still grateful for it.
I don't think we can get that back. It's been spiraling downward since 2006. It's like trying to save a dead relationship on the basis of a beautiful memory. Some of us still come back for the figurative sex with an ex, but it's not the same as those heady days.
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I, too, miss the old days. It's hard to realize those days are over,but I think the devolution of Fornits was a confluence of factors and can't be placed squarely on Psy's shoulders.
The spirit of Fornits began to disintegrate when more people were permitted to moderate - not all of them acquainted with a program, a sense of discretion, or a sense of camaraderie. In the old days, things could get raw and a but wild, but there was an underlying sense of solidarity. Things that undermined this was:
1. Sustained infighting between moderators.
2. Serious discretionary violations from new moderators. Even if pro program people were targeted, it undermined trust and the willingness to put your stuff out there.
3. Whooter's persistent and pervasive flooding, misdirecting, and derailing. Many of us, myself included, have responded, perhaps stupidly so. But it was difficult not to because he effectively eroded the spirit and purpose of this site with his deluge of sabotage. (Yeah, I don't need to get into a big brouhaha with Whooter, but I do think his presence has had a significant negative impact.)
The combination of these factors created a clusterfuck of devolutionary proportion. Probably the Straight crew is strongest. But I've heard a few say they would never have shared what they've shared here initially if they walked into the current environment. I wouldn't have either. It's a shame, because the sense of validation and support this site initially offered was tremendous, and I'm still grateful for it.
I don't think we can get that back. It's been spiraling downward since 2006. It's like trying to save a dead relationship on the basis of a beautiful memory. Some of us still come back for the figurative sex with an ex, but it's not the same as those heady days.
Samara,
Not to be a sad sack but if you keep talking like this then who is going to want to come back or stay (if your new). Fornits can continue to evolve, everything changes especially the members. Life changes for many marriages, divorces, babies, job changes, no job, mental and emotional turmoils, lack of passion and so on.
This Whooter situation as far as I can see has been on the fence for a few years. Nobody seems to want to deal with it on their watch. He is obstructing and manipulating threads this is extremely obvious, some want to deal with it others don't but you all agree he is a shill. Just business Whooter, "we can all agree on this", right. :D
People are still coming here (I did) and I have found some friends in just the short time I have been here.
So we may be in a flux right now it will get better, I'm counting on it.
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trollkeeper wrote;
" Does it matter if I am an ex - staffer as a moderator? If you don't like that, tough shit.
It matters to me. Your attitude and your actions(moderation) show that you can't be trusted.
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http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32073&start=30#p388339
DannyB II posted at 9:17 p.m. then yourself posted at 9:38 pm. I am not sure what's going on. I do agree that things will get better.
Nobody seems to want to deal with it on their watch. He is obstructing and manipulating threads this is extremely obvious, some want to deal with it others don't but you all agree he is a shill.
People can ignore Whooter and they can put him on their foe list. Where is "nobody wants to deal with it on their watch is" coming from? psy and ginger do the best they can.
DannyB II posted at 9:17 p.m. then yourself posted at 9:38 pm. I am not sure what's going on.
So what Joel, why don't you start a fight with someone else. Look at the IP's. Danny also told me you PM'd him and asked him to continue to post, what is up with that. Were you trying to set us up to see if were one in the same. Your behavior is deplorable if you stooped so low to PM someone with a apparent request to see them come back only to use them. Also another of your abusive actions; you had taken a post he deleted and abused your powers as a moderator and posted it anyway. You know which one.
It seems your sincerity is under scrutiny here recently Joel. Why don't you keep your own backyard clean. DJ and None Ya have spoken about it. You are very vindictive, Joel.
When you can grow up and conduct yourself maturely on this site, I will listen to your points a little more intently. I have seen your progress since I have gotten here, it doesn't appear any better then before. Why?? Just before you became a moderator you went around and erased a slue of your posts, the ones you felt would make you look bad. I don't know how many other people noticed this but I did.
Joel your whole character is in question in my eyes, so get off me. Just worry about who your supposed to be, find a personality and stick with it.
Where is "nobody wants to deal with it on their watch is" coming from? psy and ginger do the best they can.
You can't really speak for Psy and Ginger so please don't.
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Also another of your abusive actions; you had taken a post he deleted and abused your powers as a moderator and posted it anyway. You know which one.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32073&start=30#p388339 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32073&start=30#p388339) I remember. I quoted that before he deleted it. If you feel I abused my power in that case, you can file a complaint with the admins. I will appeal it per the Bill of Rights in The Rules of The Board.
No you did not, if you had his post would not have been deleted. Joel your intentions are to manipulate people for your own purposes. I saw this coming when I arrived here at fornits. You are not someone who values integrity at all, people are starting to see this. I believe it is just immaturity and not so much malicious but time will tell.
Joel the only appealing that will be done is to your consciousness.
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Also another of your abusive actions; you had taken a post he deleted and abused your powers as a moderator and posted it anyway. You know which one.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32073&start=30#p388339 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32073&start=30#p388339) I remember. I quoted that before he deleted it. If you feel I abused my power in that case, you can file a complaint with the admins. I will appeal it per the Bill of Rights in The Rules of The Board.
No you did not, if you had his post would not have been deleted. Joel your intentions are to manipulate people for your own purposes. I saw this coming when I arrived here at fornits. You are not someone who values integrity at all, people are starting to see this. I believe it is just immaturity and not so much malicious but time will tell.
Joel the only appealing that will be done is to your consciousness.
I disagree on the integrity, heretik. Would you questioned my integrity before the issue me being a staffer came up? Tis a fair question, "just sayin" :D. I don't have the power to delete people's posts but you already knew that.
I disagree on the integrity, heretik. Would you questioned my integrity before the issue me being a staffer came up? Tis a fair question, "just sayin" :D. I don't have the power to delete people's posts but you already knew that.
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I did question your integrity when I first got here, when you enjoyed harassing me constantly by PM and on the board, thinking I was Danny.
I did not say you deleted anything, I said you took a deleted post and re-posted it.
On the subject of you being a past employee, I personally don't care whether you were staff or not. I don't believe anyone else would either if we did not have to deal with your lack of discipline when you are confronted. Your reactions resemble staff who were inadequately screened and/or trained for their positions.
Joel I am not looking to fight with you, honestly. It gains us nothing. Just stop manipulating people here for your own reasons.
Paranoid, no Joel I am not. I don't care when it gets right down to it, who you think I am and what IP address I choose to post from, if Danny posts 2 minutes after me or before me. I am done with that crap. I'll let you play with it from here on out.
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ex staffer wrote;
"Staffers put duct tape on people's mouth, yell at them during confrontation sessions, beat them, deprive them of food, deprive them of water, deprive them of sleep and sexually abuse them. I haven't done that to people on fornits."
So what your saying then is, you did those things to people in the program!
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Related: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32073 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32073)
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He's not saying that.
No one is proud of what they did in a program as a student or staff member. The more people who understand the abuses - no matter what part of the program they played, the better.
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No one is proud of what they did in a program as a student or staff member.
I wouldn't go that far; there are some who are still proud of it, or don't have a problem with it. :poison:
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You know what I mean... the people fighting here.
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You know what I mean... the people fighting here.
(just to clarify.)
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In order to be on staff you have to walk locksteo with the program.
Defend the keeper if you want. Maybe he won't cheese around with your posts. But he's already croosed that line with me.
And just so we are all clear on one thing;
THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO WAY IN HELL I COULD HAVE BEEN COHEARSED INTO BEING 1 OF THEM !
I RAN AWAY , WENT TO JAIL, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF MY SELF!!!
FUCK THE PROGRAM AND ALL WHO WILLINGLY PARTICIPATED
I'm out......
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Well, None-Ya, I split successfully after a couple of tries. But I hate to think of what would have happened if I made it down the mountain finally and my Dad didn't say fuck it, no more program.
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Well, None-Ya, I split successfully after a couple of tries. But I hate to think of what would have happened if I made it down the mountain finally and my Dad didn't say fuck it, no more program.
All the props in the world to you for getting away.
No hard feeling about the cat thread?
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No hard feelings from me but my 10 year old would kick your ass. He is a major cat lover. He seriously believes that any one who hurts a cat should be given the death penalty. I like dogs a lot, but need to wait for my life to get less busy to give it the companionship it needs.
Either way, pets are easier than people. At least they won't drive you to therapy.
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I would never hurt any animal. Not even a cat. Just don't think that cats feel the same way about us.They don't.
Wer're going off topic here. We better watch it before we get the stink eye from the moderator
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you faggots do realize that efore he was a program staffer he spent nineteen months in rockey mountain academy? he's got more program cred than half you pussies crying over your retarded posts eing moved around do.
seriously none-ya.. get a fucking life. stop making all of this you. it isn't you.. it isn't him.. it isn't me..
it is those kids in a program you are fucking over with your crying and weeping shit that does nothing more than further divide a community.
so go fuck yourself you pussy fucknut.
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Now he goes and deletes his last post and the one I just poasted 2 min ago. what gives with you?
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Che gookin wrote
"it is those kids in a program you are fucking over with your crying and weeping shit that does nothing more than further divide a community"'
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I've never hurt any kids. In fact I helped one escape camp e nee nee hasee one of jack eckerds camp for girls. Torturus shithole that it was. I have no resect for anybody who made their living working for the enemy!
Your sophmoric insults are unwarranted here che. I've never had a problem with you.(Probably a cat owner)
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Gatekeeper where is my missing post?
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none-ya (you ignorant slut) wrote;
"I've never had a problem with you.(Probably a cat owner)"
Wait a minute. Don't they eat cats where you live?
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I don't have the power to delete any persons post on fornits and this is the second time I've told you, none-ya. You are cannot get it through your thick skull , being shit disturber or both of the aforesaid mentioned. I'm finished explaining this to you. All communications per this issue are finished, none-ya.
This is not true. You put up a post where you missquoted me about you giving me the pink eye when I said stink eye. You claimed to have sent me a pm ( but you didn't). And when I responded you pulled your post and mine went with it. I'm not making this up in "my thick skull". You sound like staff you really do. I bet that shit went straight to you head too. You really like being in charge don't you. You were an easy mark for the koolaid.Arrogant asshole.
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You're a pig
No,i'm sorry you're a cat
A 24k phoney
no better than whooter
May I will get pink eye from you.
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ALL HAIL!![attachment=0:1z1cgrx1]GATEKEEPER.jpg[/attachment:1z1cgrx1]
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hey faggot,
those so called enemies you are so quick to vilify have as a whole done more damage to the TTI than you and your unwashed lot ever have and ever will do.
Clarke Poole, look up the name dipshit, he nearly destroyed HLA from the inside out.
keep on whining and crying, it is can't cunt losers like you who make this place such a fun place to post.
stupid motherfucker.
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hey faggot,
those so called enemies you are so quick to vilify have as a whole done more damage to the TTI than you and your unwashed lot ever have and ever will do.
Clarke Poole, look up the name dipshit, he nearly destroyed HLA from the inside out.
keep on whining and crying, it is can't cunt losers like you who make this place such a fun place to post.
stupid motherfucker.
You talk like you're the gatekeeper's wardaddy. Don't sweat me man I aint after your bitch.
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They're brothers, none-ya. This is why Che can behave like that and never get a warning or a banning while you and other people without connections to a mod get hosed, warned and banned. Joel doesn't know how to moderate and simply abdicates what he claims to enforce when it comes to his sibling who is allowed to post whatever he wants without consequence.
Joel only goes after the people that push back on his BS. Ass kissers and siblings get a free ride.
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They're brothers, none-ya. This is why Che can behave like that and never get a warning or a banning while you and other people without connections to a mod get hosed, warned and banned. Joel doesn't know how to moderate and simply abdicates what he claims to enforce when it comes to his sibling who is allowed to post whatever he wants without consequence.
Joel only goes after the people that push back on his BS. Ass kissers and siblings get a free ride.
Oh no!! Did "Dysfunctional Yeoman" get a warning? tsk, tsk. How is the accountability working out for ya? lol. You could always run away and change your name again!!
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No, I didn't get a warning. But you have been warned many times and banned three times for your idiocy. You win on that account!
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To dump this at the feet of PSY is well........pathetic. Shit was out of hand here for a while,and the place needed a hall monitor, I mean most bars NEED a doorman right . as long as the doorman aint a tyrant.......wheres the problem? Ive been posting on here a long time,Im an X staff member, Have absolutly no desire to moderate a goddamn thing....but have no problem that stuff stays loosely ordered.I will admit though the name gatekeeper did freak me out a bit but...thats just coincidences on my end.....nothing worth goin into....
As far as the x staff member thing goes, id ask that anyone who wishes to judge an x staff member only do it on the here and now. What they post and the intent of that post in the present. Its been my experience that many x staff members had an outside adgenda by becoming staff,had the intention of making a program into something better ,and though nieve at best good intent . When the shine of that wears thin, and realities set in they quit. Besides ,x staff members have a historical and behind the scenes type of insight that is invaluable in a way.
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This is a little insane. I understood the need for moderation after posters like Whooter spammed with porn, nonsense, and various puppets. But if we're going to be forced to all play nice the same rules need to be universal.
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I agree with the OP. This place used to be cool, used to be fun, etc. But it sucks now. Hell, I don't even troll here anymore under any of my many user names.....it seems like this is as good a place as any to boast of my marijuana use ('cause I probably DO smoke better, and more, pot than you do), but other than that, it's been lame for a while now.
Bring back Dr. Fucktard!!!!!
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That job is too big for even the venerable, highly esteemed Dr. Fucktard.
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Jesus Christ the thread most in need of moderation - OFFA - can't get any. It's Spamcrapstic.
PLEASE........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
86 the spam.
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I agree with the OP. This place used to be cool, used to be fun, etc. But it sucks now. Hell, I don't even troll here anymore under any of my many user names.....it seems like this is as good a place as any to boast of my marijuana use ('cause I probably DO smoke better, and more, pot than you do), but other than that, it's been lame for a while now.
Bring back Dr. Fucktard!!!!!
Indeed, druggie.. Id say most people here are WAY out of touch with their programs...
Looks like it's time for them to pull that chain on the side of their head and flush their minds!
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Turns out this forum is moderated
by Guest420 ยป 06 Dec 2010, 11:52
How ironic is it that the thread I created to complain about the overzealous moderating, was itself moderated. In a forum, that is supposedly an "open free for all" and unmoderated. My post was moved, all because the moderator, a program staffer, decided on a whim to do it. Welcome to the new fornits.
Looks like the owner of this site finally weighed in on the topic of program staffers censoring posters here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32073&start=30#p388374
What an utterly disappointing and disheartening response.
I remember many times on fornits survivors having their information posted, or pictures or them, of other humiliating personal information. They would beg the site owner to remove their information. The response was a long, usually impassioned rhetorical post about the ideals of freedom of speech. It sort of made me angry, why can't they just use their power to remove the info and help their fellow survivors?, I thought. But in the end, I accepted that the ideal of free speech meant some people would get hurt, and giving people free expression was the best way to stimulate and produce an interesting, real, and meaningful conversation.
What shocks me most about the recent changes to fornits, from a free place to a program like lock down forum, is the complete and utter abandonment of the ideals expressed so often by people like Psy and Antigen in the past. It's very disappointing to now watch these same people making arguments in complete disagreement with their selves, just months and years ago, arguments now in favor of censorship and control.
Antigen wrote:
none-ya wrote:
"Having an ex steffer moderate dialog betwween program survivors,is like having an ex nazi moderate dialog between holocaust survivors."
Shindler was a high ranking Nazi in good standing when he did his thing and Solzhenitsyn was a high ranking Soviet officer on the day of his arrest.
Instead of trying to convince us of the need for free speech, we now have this site owner trying to convince us program staff censors are comparable to Schlindler. Pardon my skepticism, but did "thegatekeeper", the staffer moderator, risk their life to free kids from a program? I doubt it. More than likely they took a paycheck and did what they were told.
As a program survivor, I suppose I have a bias against program staff. They were bullies who took money to keep kids prisoner, and some took pleasure in their new found positions of power. The fact that the one and only place that allowed free expression relating to programs, is now being structured just like it was a program, is so contrary to the original ideals I learned fornits stood for, it's almost beyond belief. The irony couldn't be any more apparent.
How can people not see how wrong it is to have a program staff censoring and controlling survivors mode of communication? This is precisely what takes place inside of programs. To not understand this means that either you don't understand the inner workings of programs, or whatever passion you might have had relating to your experience has long faded, because only a heartless person could institute such a policy, and not recognize the hypocrisy and irony.
Not only is fornits "not what it used to be", it is becoming the very thing it claims to fight against. So enjoy your program like forum, where your posts are combed over by a staffer, and only approved posts will remain. Remember when you wrote letters home telling your parents how bad the program was? Well the moderator here was the one censoring those letters too, so it looks like we've come full circle.
This is the last you'll hear from me, because at this point it's clear that the entire leadership here is in agreement that control, censorship, and restriction is the way to move forward with this forum. But by restricting the very people who compose the entire content of this website, it will only hurt fornits in the long run. Unfortunately I believe this new policy is going to be the final nail in the coffin of this once wonderful forum called fornits. It was fun while it lasted.Guest420
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violins are playing... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
pussy.
grow a pair and get over it.
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violins are playing... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
pussy.
grow a pair and get over it.
Do mommy and daddy know you're on the computer again?
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So I'd like an answer to why this is tolerated.
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So I'd like an answer to why this is tolerated.
Full disclosure! :D
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So I'd like an answer to why this is tolerated.
why don't you spend less time trying to get into the whooter's pants and more time trying to smash ridge creek? oh wait.. they scared you off.. to timid after your lawsuit went down the shitter.
or the whooter is telling the truth and you spent like 3 weeks max there.
hard to say with a loudmouth like you.
and the gatekeeper doesn't moderate me cause that is psy's detail. no conflict of interest that way or some lame shit.
so yeah, you and noney can go royally fuck each other with a large parcel of dildos.
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che gookin wrote
"so yeah, you and noney can go royally fuck each other with a large parcel of dildos"
I've never come off at anybody here like that . Not ever. Nor will I.Your juvenille insults do not intimidate me. They do however reflect on you. Because therein lies the quality of your character as well as your vocabulary.
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che gookin wrote
"so yeah, you and noney can go royally fuck each other with a large parcel of dildos"
I've never come off at anybody here like that . Not ever. Nor will I.Your juvenille insults do not intimidate me. They do however reflect on you. Because therein lies the quality of your character as well as your vocabulary.
you aren't allowed to make any judgments on character when it was you who kicked off this whole pathetic frenzy about ex-staff moderating a web forum. When you conveniently, for your own purposes I'm sure, overlook the fact that the moderator was a survivor of a program that was probably far more psychologically insidious that your little Seed faggotry.
The problem with you is you are acting like an asshurt bitch. The gatekeeper cockslapped you and you you are running to catch up to protect your e-manhood.
So frankly, I don't give a flying fuck what you think or say. Go fuck yourself and go fuck that little asshole buddy robbie bruce as well. Both of you cocksuckers deserve each other for the rampant faggotry you've both unleashed on these forums with this bullshit about going after a mod who is trying to do the job he was asked to do.
Don't think I forgot your attacks on Deprogrammed you sorry son of a bitch. you are calling my character into question when you are conveniently ignoring truths about a mod and have attacked a woman who was lucking for support in a time of crisis.
Again, go fuck yourself with a huge bucket of dildos you piece of shit.
And don't worry I'm sure psy will be along one of these days to ban me. Fuck if I care. Most of my best work has always been when I was well proxied up.
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why don't you spend less time trying to get into the whooter's pants and more time trying to smash ridge creek? oh wait.. they scared you off.. to timid after your lawsuit went down the shitter.
or the whooter is telling the truth and you spent like 3 weeks max there.
hard to say with a loudmouth like you.
and the gatekeeper doesn't moderate me cause that is psy's detail. no conflict of interest that way or some lame shit.
so yeah, you and noney can go royally fuck each other with a large parcel of dildos.
I've got to say, I think it's adorable how much you think you know, yet are somehow wrong about everything. It sounds like somethings really got your panties in a twist. Maybe you should take a step back from fornits and focus on that. As bitter as you seem it wouldnt surprise me if a random killing spree isn't on your to-do list already. Get help soon son.
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Again, he started all this himself by screwing around with peoples posts in the first place.AS to your preocupation with dildoes, I can't speak to that.
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Besides I never knew he was ex-staff until he outed himself. What did he think would happen? This whole thing is on him, and all the insults that you can think of (even the ones with dildos) can't change that.
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che gookin wrote
"And don't worry I'm sure psy will be along one of these days to ban me. Fuck if I care. Most of my best work has always been when I was well proxied up".
I thought you had immunity
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Wow!!!!!! What 24 hours will do to somebody. What's with all that foul language anyways. Somebody ought to git Sister Mary's ruler out here and start smacking some pee pee's. Let's be nice.
Merry Christmas!!!!!!
They do Christmas in China, Che??
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Wow!!!!!! What 24 hours will do to somebody. What's with all that foul language anyways. Somebody ought to git Sister Mary's ruler out here and start smacking some pee pee's. Let's be nice.
Merry Christmas!!!!!!
They do Christmas in China, Che??
Danny,
I cuss at None-ya out of love. I cuss at you because you really are a piece sorry drunken miserable shit.
Go fuck yourself.
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che gookin wrote
"And don't worry I'm sure psy will be along one of these days to ban me. Fuck if I care. Most of my best work has always been when I was well proxied up".
I thought you had immunity
Fuck if I know. I've been warned a couple times before. No worries, this has gotten so boring that I'm about done. I can't think up of insults like I used to be able to.
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che gookin wrote
"And don't worry I'm sure psy will be along one of these days to ban me. Fuck if I care. Most of my best work has always been when I was well proxied up".
I thought you had immunity
Fuck if I know. I've been warned a couple times before. No worries, this has gotten so boring that I'm about done. I can't think up of insults like I used to be able to.
Your system is lacking the chemical reaction between soda and alcohol.
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Prolly the 20 mgs of prozac a day as well. You weren't kidding about management being a tough gig.
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Wow!!!!!! What 24 hours will do to somebody. What's with all that foul language anyways. Somebody ought to git Sister Mary's ruler out here and start smacking some pee pee's. Let's be nice.
Merry Christmas!!!!!!
They do Christmas in China, Che??
Danny,
I cuss at None-ya out of love. I cuss at you because you really are a piece sorry drunken miserable shit.
Go fuck yourself.
You do not cuss a None ya out of love and if you believe that I would hate to see your girlfriend after you to had a fight. Her black eyes and broken jaw were out of love too, I guess. I have been here 2 months and you have shown your ass the whole time, not just to me either. Your wholesale abuse of anyone who remotely threatens you, is not some little nuance of your personality that can be overlooked. You enjoy abusing people and it doesn't matter who they are.
Yeah, OK, just for you Che, I'll be drunkin motherfuckin DannyB. Happy now??
Merry Christmas