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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Seed Discussion Forum => Topic started by: GregFL on August 26, 2002, 09:00:00 PM
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Art claimed he was many things before he was the fearless leader of the Seed Cult.
Fighter Pilot
Vaudeville actor
Rehabilitation/treatment specialist
Comic
Alchoholic
High School dropout
After a conversation with someone whom called me today, I had a memory of him claiming several film credits. I did a search and found the following:
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0063311 (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0063311)
Mission Mars. This one rings a bell.
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0062493 (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0062493)
Wild rebels
Both movies are from the late sixties. I am thinking about trying to see them.
Anyone remember Art claiming to be an acter?
[ This Message was edited by: GregFL on 2002-08-27 16:01 ]
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No, I don't remember Art claiming to be an actor. I do vaguely remember, though, that Mission to Mars was based on a book called "The Mars Transmission" by none other than L.R. Hubbard.
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I think that was "mission to Mars" with Gary sinese that you are talking about.
Mission mars was an obscure 60s movie. I think Artie was in it. It would be interesting for sure to dig up a copy.
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I've seen Art in a B movie at a drive in theater. He played the part of a liquor store salesman that got robbed and tied up. Don't remember the name of the movie. :smokin:
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It was called wild rebels.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0062493/ (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0062493/)
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Now do you see the the tie between Art and Skipper Chuck (ZINK)/Poppie Play House? Keep digging you will find more.
TRUCKER
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don't be criptic my man trucker!
If you got something to say, say it.
What was the connection?
[ This Message was edited by: GregFL on 2004-06-15 16:38 ][ This Message was edited by: GregFL on 2004-06-15 16:39 ]
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:smokin:
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Okay, Chuck Zink (aka Skipper Chuck) and Art Barker were in the movie "mission to Mars" together.
I cracked your code Trucker. Any further connection?
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K.C. AND THE SUNSHINE BAND.
TRUCKER
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Trucker-What city do you live in & how old are you? I.m still trying to figure out who you are?????? :???:
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Well, I knew KC and his brother lived in lauderdale. In fact, his brother was a bartender at "Big daddy's" lounge in Tamarac.
These guys were in the seed? Tell me it aint so....
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I don't think they were.
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KC & the Sunshine Band? What relation did they have to the Seed?
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OK - does anyone remember Doc Severnson (of the Johnny Carson-Tonight Show band) coming in one night for a PR stint? Unfortunately, didn't play his brass but got up and spoke about his support for the program. And what about the donation of Jackie Gleason's Limo which was supposed to be auctioned off for donations but apparently utilized by Art for his 'getarounds'.
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KC and the Sunshine Band. The only connection that comes to mind: When I was on my program, there was a black guy named rufus that was close friends with either KC or one of the band members. He was an oldtimer that came in and related on a regular basis. He spoke about knowing Kc and the band during one of the seed xmas programs as I recall.
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Oh Yeah, I definitely remember this, and Doc got up to make a speech about his support and he made some comment about the "a few of the guys in the band could use a program like this", it was pretty uncomfortable. watching johnny carson a few years later did I realize that most of the guys in the band were stoned most of the time...
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Hey!
I am a product of "The Seed" in 1972 and you cannot classify it as a cult, actually if you didn't experience the seed, then you have no valid accusations to make. I am 47 now and I remember those days when I was 15/16 yrs. old and in the seed in St. Pete behind Tyrone mall, those were very memorable days!!!
Art Barker was a real nice down to earth guy that was interested in gettin the hippie youth on a clean path, it worked for me, cause I have been straight since!
Roachie
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Hey! I am a product of "The Seed" in 1972, Hey "Roachie" I am a 73-75 St Graduate also, do I know you? I was one of the few kids from St Pete Catholic along with Dave Blackwell & Maggie Canfield. I still remember / in touch with a few of the graduates from around that time. I was 16 yo in 73 when I went in. Respond back & I will e-mail you my address,
Chris Lewis
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On 2005-03-23 14:17:00, Roachie wrote:
you cannot classify it as a cult, actually if you didn't experience the seed, then you have no valid accusations to make.
Ummmm, do you understand what a cult is? That's part of the definition right there.
Here's a good read:
Thought Reform Exists: Organized, Programmatic Influence
Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph.D.
http://www.csj.org/infoserv_articles/si ... reform.htm (http://www.csj.org/infoserv_articles/singer_margaret_thoughtreform.htm)May the fleas of one thousand llamas infest your armpits
--One ticked off sysadmin
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to some people cult = the other weird little personality/restrictive group THEY were not in.
:grin:
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Welcome Roachie!
Just a point of minor correction...the seed opened in St Pete In Late june of 1973. Not to worry tho, most people have fuzzy memories of when they were there and what occured.
Welcome again! New members are usually asked to tell us something you remember from then. What stands out in your mind...
PS...I was there also, starting about 1 or 2 weeks after it opened, in early July, 1973. We probably know each other, or at least knew each other back then.
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Yes I do especially the mission mars thing.....LMAO Stand up comic...drunk dragging into AA with bottle clanking on the floor of his overcoat, living on a boat and meeting Shelly and knowing she was the woman of his dreams. Entertainer. she saved him...How much money did she have? What was the interest when he didn't even sleep in the same bed with her? So what di you find?
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HI CHRIS I KNOW SOME OF THE GUYS YOU MENTIONED.HOW ARE YOU DOING?I WAS LOOKING FOR THE DOC SHOT IN FT.L IN 71[?].ANY INFO ON THAT?ALSO IS ART BARKER STILL ALIVE?