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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Bob on May 03, 2006, 07:29:00 PM
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This forum is not fair to escort agents. We simply do what we are asked to do. The parents are the consumers. Not the kids. I go through alot as an escort. Last week I had a teen throw a 16 ounce can of Snapple at me. I had to even mace him. It got that bad. Please think more openly about our profession.
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:nworthy:
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Let's hope it's a troll.
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Connected, and full? Puuurrfect!
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You must be real good at your job! !st of all you are an idiot to have given a can and not a plastic bottle. I do the same job and you never give a can to a kid, for many reasons.
As for you getting any kind of understanding from this board, it will not happen. They will just go off on you. I have talked with these people before. Just do your job, know what you are doing is right and don't concern yourself with comments from these boards, where only a handful of the posters seem to have been through any kind of program. But I on the other hand have and know what most of these children are going through because i was there at one time in my life. They already hate me on this board, they will hate you too bob.
The One Who Cares
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Sorry to hear about your beverage-related injury.
The parents are the consumers. Not the kids.
That's not true. I hire escorts all the time. Uh... wait. nevermind. I didn't say that.
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Hold on... Snapple comes in cans now? Where the fuck have I been? (Not drinking Snapple, apparently.)
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On 2006-05-05 07:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You must be real good at your job! !st of all you are an idiot to have given a can and not a plastic bottle. I do the same job and you never give a can to a kid, for many reasons.
As for you getting any kind of understanding from this board, it will not happen. They will just go off on you. I have talked with these people before. Just do your job, know what you are doing is right and don't concern yourself with comments from these boards, where only a handful of the posters seem to have been through any kind of program. But I on the other hand have and know what most of these children are going through because i was there at one time in my life. They already hate me on this board, they will hate you too bob.
The One Who Cares"
Hey, child kidnapper, I noticed you didn't comment on "Bob" macing the kid. Is that what you guys do? Just mace the shit out of them when they don't comply?
I'd love for you to come and "transport" me, buddy. After I put you in traction I'll empty the pepper spray on you for good measure.
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Just on the outside chance this 1st post wasn't from a troll, and in case anyone takes any of this seriously, here's some info:
Here are some articles that might help parents make an educated decision before sending their child off with strangers:
http://caica.org/NEW%20kids%20disappear ... strawn.htm (http://caica.org/NEW%20kids%20disappear%20rick%20strawn.htm)
http://caica.org/NEW%20kids%20disappear%205.htm (http://caica.org/NEW%20kids%20disappear%205.htm)
http://caica.org/NEWS%20kid%20to%20disppear.htm (http://caica.org/NEWS%20kid%20to%20disppear.htm)
http://caica.org/NEWS%20kids%20disappear%20main.htm (http://caica.org/NEWS%20kids%20disappear%20main.htm)
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The One Who Trolls needs to get a real job
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For sure!
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NILES BOT 9000: EXECUTING PROGRAMMIE TRANSLATION.
You noob, giving a child a can instead of a plastic bottle. You clearly have no experience in kidnapping scared children, like I do.
As for getting any kind of complicit support for what I do, its not going to happen. People just dont agree its right to kidnap kids and throw them in programs. Ive tried to convince these people before. But I just do my job, keep trying to convince myself to believe that what Im doing is right and not concern myself with normal people in the real world, my conscience, or the lack of proof any of these places actually work, because it makes me feel better. Because I was put in a program and brainwashed I know what theyre going through and think its actually okay to do! Everyone here already hates me for kidnapping children and taking them to abusive reeducation centers, and theyre probably going to hate anyone else that does the same thing.
The One Who Kidnaps.
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To Dysfunction, No I do not cary mase or any weaons. I use hadcuffs about %2 of the time, other than that, the job goes fairly smooth.
No one in our company uses any thing other tan cuffs. The one Who Cares.
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Is there any reason you focus on such asinine details and miss the big picture other than trying to avoid it?
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or the fact he cant spell of even use the percentage sign correctly?
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On 2006-05-03 16:29:00, Bob wrote:
"This forum is not fair to escort agents. We simply do what we are asked to do. The parents are the consumers. Not the kids. I go through alot as an escort. Last week I had a teen throw a 16 ounce can of Snapple at me. I had to even mace him. It got that bad. Please think more openly about our profession."
I believe that is what the guards at Treblinka and Bergen-Belsen said as well you felon.
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On 2006-05-03 16:29:00, Bob wrote:
"This forum is not fair to escort agents. We simply do what we are asked to do. The parents are the consumers. Not the kids. I go through alot as an escort. Last week I had a teen throw a 16 ounce can of Snapple at me. I had to even mace him. It got that bad. Please think more openly about our profession."
I believe that is what the guards at Treblinka and Bergen-Belsen said as well you felon.
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This is OBVIOUSLY A TROLL.
[ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2006-05-07 01:36 ]
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Funny Niles. You're probably right.
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The one who cares knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is the greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation.
The programmie guidance system uses deviations to generate error signal commands which instruct the one who cares to move from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, arriving at a position where it wasn't, or now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position where it wasn't; thus, it follows logically that the position where it was is the position where it isn't.
In the event that the position where the one who cares now is, is not the position where it wasn't, the programmie guidance system has acquired a variation. Variations are caused by external factors, the discussions of which are beyond the scope of this report.
A variation is the difference between where the one who cares is and where the one who cares wasn't. If the variation is considered to be a factor of significant magnitude, a correction may be applied by the use of the autopilot system. However, use of this correction requires that the one who cares now knows where it was because the variation has modified some of the information which the one who cares has, so it is sure where it isn't.
Nevertheless, the one who cares is sure where it isn't (within reason) and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it isn't, where it ought to be from where it wasn't (or vice versa) and intergrates the difference with the product of where it shouldn't be and where it was; thus obtaining the difference between its deviation and its variation, which is variable constant called "error".
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Niles, I've been meaning to tell you that I love your new avatar.
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I think there's a reason we call them "escorts". They will whore themselves out and do whatever they're paid to do without giving thought to the morality and long-term implications of their actions. At least the ones who only provide sexual services are engaging in victimless crimes.
Escorts are whores, whether they give BJs for money or transport children to abusive programs for money. Especially you Fornits trollers, you have no excuse to play ignorant about the abuse that occurs in all of these programs.
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On 2006-05-06 07:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I think there's a reason we call them "escorts". They will whore themselves out and do whatever they're paid to do without giving thought to the morality and long-term implications of their actions. At least the ones who only provide sexual services are engaging in victimless crimes.
Escorts are whores, whether they give BJs for money or transport children to abusive programs for money. Especially you Fornits trollers, you have no excuse to play ignorant about the abuse that occurs in all of these programs.
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Yeah... we need to hire some handcuff wielding 'tough love' escorts for our teenage kids to show them we love them.
Anyone got some phone #s? Id like to party tonight...
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On 2006-05-05 13:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
"To Dysfunction, No I do not cary mase or any weaons. I use hadcuffs about %2 of the time, other than that, the job goes fairly smooth.
No one in our company uses any thing other tan cuffs. The one Who Cares."
Get a real job and leave the handcuffs where they belong; with the police and dominatrixes (sp).
Dragging half asleep children out of their beds in the middle of the night, handcuffing them, scaring the shit out of them, and dragging them off to private prisons makes you a pussy. You have no honor or integrity.
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On 2006-05-06 22:29:00, AtomicAnt wrote:
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On 2006-05-05 13:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
"To Dysfunction, No I do not cary mase or any weaons. I use hadcuffs about %2 of the time, other than that, the job goes fairly smooth.
No one in our company uses any thing other tan cuffs. The one Who Cares."
Get a real job and leave the handcuffs where they belong; with the police and dominatrixes (sp).
Dragging half asleep children out of their beds in the middle of the night, handcuffing them, scaring the shit out of them, and dragging them off to private prisons makes you a pussy. You have no honor or integrity."
Yanno, I'd bet you that sort of 'escort service' would make almost any teenager behave very well :rofl:
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Atomic ant, Would you prefer some of these parents just give up and let there kids do whatever they want and possibly end up dead or in jail? Almost all of the parents
I deal with have tried everthing and are at thier wits end. This is a last resort. By the way only about half of the kids in these schools are taken by people like myself, the other half are taken by there parents and the majoroty of those kids are tricked and lied to to get them there. Although it is a horrible thing to have to do to your own child, at least when I take them by the time we get to that school I try to tell them a little about what they are walking into so they can do what they need to do to get out of there and back home. I care for every kid I take as if they were my own. I can't speak for some of these other companies, but that is the way we work. The one who cares
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That last post better have been a fucking troll.
Listen, bitch. I'm not even going to bother with the PT9K or poking holes in the programmie speak.
I just want you to know that one of these days, you're going to think you're going to pick up some helpless victim, and you're going to find me waiting for you.
You'll know it's me when I've ripped your lower vertebrae out of your electrified carcass as your failing brain tries to figure out why your body just won't work. You can think 'oh he's just making stuff up' or 'he won't really do a thing like that' all you want; it's not my funeral.
Now get the hell off this forum and into a church, you piece of shit, because you better be ready for the hereafter.
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"I have a strong feeling he gets his way... a lot..."[ This Message was edited by: Luke Stephens on 2006-05-07 08:28 ]
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On 2006-05-07 07:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Atomic ant, Would you prefer some of these parents just give up and let there kids do whatever they want and possibly end up dead or in jail? Almost all of the parents
I deal with have tried everthing and are at thier wits end. This is a last resort. By the way only about half of the kids in these schools are taken by people like myself, the other half are taken by there parents and the majoroty of those kids are tricked and lied to to get them there. Although it is a horrible thing to have to do to your own child, at least when I take them by the time we get to that school I try to tell them a little about what they are walking into so they can do what they need to do to get out of there and back home. I care for every kid I take as if they were my own. I can't speak for some of these other companies, but that is the way we work. The one who cares"
Even if all of the risky-behavior-related deaths occurred only among the highest-risk kids -- the 4 million estimated by the Surgeon General to have serious behavioral and psychological problems -- this would still only put their risk of death at four in 1,000 per year.
Maia Szalavitz
Help at Any Cost
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You are trying to frighten parents with the dead or in jail bullshit. It doesn't work here. If that were true, most of the people I know (who drank , did drugs, and had sex in high school) would not be here.
So, from your post, half the parents are kidnappers and half are liars. Nice. No wonder their kids have problems... which leads me to something my sister told me. My sister has a PHD in psychology and treats troubled teens. She has been doing this for over 20 years. She says she has yet to see a patient who wasn't mistreated or abandoned by their parents.
Meantime, you view the world in black and white, like there are only two options. The parents could not have tried 'everything.' There is an infinite set of 'everything' to try. Maybe the parents should fix themselves first and watch the kids respond to that.
For those involved with alcohol or other drugs, reearch finds that with parental discipline and no professional help, the majority of teens even the most troubled, end their heavy drinking and/or out-of-control drug use by their mid-twenties.
Maia Szalavitz
Help at Any Cost
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On 2006-05-07 08:27:00, Luke Stephens wrote:
"That last post better have been a fucking troll.
Listen, bitch. I'm not even going to bother with the PT9K or poking holes in the programmie speak.
I just want you to know that one of these days, you're going to think you're going to pick up some helpless victim, and you're going to find me waiting for you.
You'll know it's me when I've ripped your lower vertebrae out of your electrified carcass as your failing brain tries to figure out why your body just won't work. You can think 'oh he's just making stuff up' or 'he won't really do a thing like that' all you want; it's not my funeral.
Now get the hell off this forum and into a church, you piece of shit, because you better be ready for the hereafter.
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"I have a strong feeling he gets his way... a lot..."[ This Message was edited by: Luke Stephens on 2006-05-07 08:28 ]"
Tough talk, Luke. But the frightening part of this industry and world in general, is that we are all vulnerable. If this industry or the government decides they want to get you and take you to a prison like a TBS to reform you, or to Guantanamo to make you confess to being a terrorist, you have no chance.
These people have been doing this for years. They know all the tricks and all the angles. They know all the laws and what they can and cannot get away with. They are connected. These people know exactly what they are doing and why. That is what makes them so dangerous.
This escort uses the propaganda well; the party line about 'last resort' and the spin that the only other outcome is death or jail. We know this is bullshit, but a casual reader, a parent looking for help, who knows nothing of the industry and has no experience with or knowledge of the larger issue beyond their own immediate problems and associated fears, will read his post and take it at face value. People turn to experts for help. People posing as experts exploit them. These con artists know exactly what they are doing.
The worst part is that some of these con artists actually believe their own bullshit and believe they are doing the right thing.
I'm not sure which is worse, the cynical leaders of these cults, or the zealous followers that actually believe in them.
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Ah, Luke's being melodramatic again, I see. He's always been a fan of the direct approach. No finesse. Depending on how you count, he's actually been "taken" three times. Anyone who tries to take him now will meet a gruesome end. Like many other people I've met, he really is just as vicious as he claims.
Please, Ant, do not conflate the government and the industry. Such conflation only makes these programmie idiots think they're more powerful than they really are.
As for you, Mr. "Cares", go away. You're clearly here either to troll or to justify yourself. The former we have enough of, and the latter simply won't work here. Go to a church, not to prepare for your journey into the afterlife (as Luke actually isn't allowed to do things like that; if you need to ask why, you're a moron), but rather to atone for all the children you've sacrificed for your sins.
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"'What do I care?' I live here, asshole!"[ This Message was edited by: Paul Smith on 2006-05-07 10:43 ]
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On 2006-05-07 09:29:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
"I was offered an interview for working with an Escort company, but decided I would rather move to Korea.
I am sooooo very thankful that I came to Korea instead. The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation.
--Elizabeth Cady-Stanton
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Wow. So Three Springs, let me get this straight. You worked at an abusive program and by your own admission admitted to abusing kids. Now, you have connections in the escort field close enought to offer you an interview. Why any of the survivors will engage with you is a mystery. Is fornits your "sponsor" so that you won't relapse back to your true self and criminal behavior?
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Then why are you here and pretend to be such an expert? And for the life of me I can't believe any of these kids are dumb enough to trust a word that comes out of your mouth. I guess you are "reformed."
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Anon, wouldn't someone like Three Springs, who worked at two facilities as a licensed therapist be considered an "expert?"
I read his "Making of a Monster" and although I certainly don't agree with restraining children, or with the rock rolling incident---I don't consider any of Three Springs's self-reporting to be criminal behavior. Nor, did his employer, it appears.
Three Springs offers insight that is helpful to parents and kids who read this forum. And, no, we are not dumb.
Not sure what the word "reforned" means to you.
But I accept the words of Three Springs when he says he is "sorry and remorseful." That is good enough for me, and I respect him for that.
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Hmmm. That is a common for of denial.
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Common FORM of denial.
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WHAT is a common form of denial?
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Go to Strugglingteens.com you will see pages and pages of denial.
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On 2006-05-08 19:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"WHAT is a common form of denial?"
Forgiving and attaching to the abuser.
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Thanks for saying what you meant by "that's a common form of denial." I thought you were referring to my statement about Three Springs' actions NOT being "criminal behavior."
I most certainly have nothing to be in DENIAL about, and have not been abused, so am not ATTACHED to any "abuser."
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On 2006-05-08 10:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Anon, wouldn't someone like Three Springs, who worked at two facilities as a licensed therapist be considered an "expert?"
I read his "Making of a Monster" and although I certainly don't agree with restraining children, or with the rock rolling incident---I don't consider any of Three Springs's self-reporting to be criminal behavior. Nor, did his employer, it appears.
Three Springs offers insight that is helpful to parents and kids who read this forum. And, no, we are not dumb.
Not sure what the word "reforned" means to you.
But I accept the words of Three Springs when he says he is "sorry and remorseful." That is good enough for me, and I respect him for that.
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thats scary because TPW says himself he is against programs now and realizes they all can be abusive. what a sad excuse for a parent you must be to be informed and still for abusive programs.
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On 2006-05-07 07:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Atomic ant, Would you prefer some of these parents just give up and let there kids do whatever they want and possibly end up dead or in jail? Almost all of the parents
Quite simply that, when it comes to teenagers, the harder you push the more resistance you will meet.
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That is a ridiculous statement. Every child (person) is wired differently. In lots of families one child responds to the guidance while another won't. There are some weird over-generalizations flying around Fornits.
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On 2006-05-08 19:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Go to Strugglingteens.com you will see pages and pages of denial. "
I just took a look at strugglingteens.com and I think those parents were in denial before they got there. I think reality has just bit them all in the butt and they are hardly in denial now. That's the way it happens. Parents are always the last to know.
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On 2006-05-08 20:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-05-08 19:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Go to Strugglingteens.com you will see pages and pages of denial. "
I just took a look at strugglingteens.com and I think those parents were in denial before they got there. I think reality has just bit them all in the butt and they are hardly in denial now. That's the way it happens. Parents are always the last to know."
That's mine. For some reason I have to continuously sign in or else I become Anon.
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A mafia hitman could say the same exact thing... "I'm just doing my job"... "don't get mad at me! Just doing my job!"
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Please, Ant, do not conflate the government and the industry. Such conflation only makes these programmie idiots think they're more powerful than they really are.
Have you never heard of Melvin Sembler? These programs are politically influential. Otherwise, they would not exist.
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To the Anon who referred to me as a "sad excuse for a parent."
Nothing in my posting SAID I approved of any programs whatsoever.
I was talking about Three Springs.
I said that Three Springs,a therapist, had worked in two programs, and that he could be considered an "expert."
I said that I did not approve of restraining, or the pushing the rock incident---but that I did NOT consider this to be criminal behavior.
I said Three Springs had expressed his remorse, and that I respected that.
I said parents and students could gain insight his story "Making of a Monster."
No where did I state that I approved of ANY parent placing ANY child in ANY program.
But hearing about how a program works from a therapist's viewpoint does give one insight into what goes on in a program.
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Go to a church, not to prepare for your journey into the afterlife (as Luke actually isn't allowed to do things like that; if you need to ask why, you're a moron), but rather to atone for all the children you've sacrificed for your sins.
I dont understand this, is Luke Jewish? Its not a big deal, but he could go to a synagogue instead of a church.
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Just came back from Costa Rica. Happy to say , this escort was much smoother. He understood we were there to help save his life. He complied. As for my near Snapple can incident , that was the only beverage available and it was only available in a can. Mother said it would comfort him. Not exactly true. But he got to the program and that is all that matters. One Who Cares, thanks for your support. You are courageous posting here, just like althe parents are courageous in their efforts to save their kids.
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Brrrring, brrring! Calling troll again, and he's getting annoyed.
Hmm. I've got this young operative, still needs skills improvements, needs a place to really cut loose... hmm, prefer somewhere in South or Central America, easier to do things there.. now all I need is a good target, some sort of facility to send him against...
Ah! Why thank you Bob. I wasn't aware Costa Rica allowed this sort of thing.
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Never mind; they don't (http://http://www.rickross.com/reference/teenboot/teenboot29.html).
Would you mind telling us the name of this facility, Bob, or do we have to use rubber hose cryptography?
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On 2006-05-09 04:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
I dont understand this, is Luke Jewish? Its not a big deal, but he could go to a synagogue instead of a church.
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I've got to stop this business of reading the latest post first.
Actually, if Luke enters a church, he is blown back out with a thunderous crash at high speed, the loudness and velocity varying with the age, repute, and size of the church. A little town church will have a pop and send him tumbling; a fairly big one will sound like thunder and have him getting some "big air" (his words).
We're going to try the Sistine Chapel next, with heavy-duty earphones, and see if we can track him by satellite.
Well, either that, or you completely missed the fact that the phrase "things like that" referred to violence. He's not allowed to just walk in to every program in existence and start knocking off heads, despite his wishes to the contrary.
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I meant Tranquility Bay in Jamaica. The Snapple can incident happened in 03 while I was Escorting a young teen to Casa By The Sea. I am fuly aware Casa By the Sea is no longer in business.
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On 2006-05-03 16:29:00, Bob wrote:
"This forum is not fair to escort agents. We simply do what we are asked to do. The parents are the consumers. Not the kids. I go through alot as an escort. Last week I had a teen throw a 16 ounce can of Snapple at me. I had to even mace him. It got that bad. Please think more openly about our profession."
Was it last week or several years ago?
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Talk about trolling! You guys are making this shit up.
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Obviously. But at least I'm having fun.
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On 2006-05-07 07:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Atomic ant, Would you prefer some of these parents just give up and let there kids do whatever they want and possibly end up dead or in jail? Almost all of the parents
I deal with have tried everthing and are at thier wits end. This is a last resort. By the way only about half of the kids in these schools are taken by people like myself, the other half are taken by there parents and the majoroty of those kids are tricked and lied to to get them there. Although it is a horrible thing to have to do to your own child, at least when I take them by the time we get to that school I try to tell them a little about what they are walking into so they can do what they need to do to get out of there and back home. I care for every kid I take as if they were my own. I can't speak for some of these other companies, but that is the way we work. The one who cares"
That is what you have to tell yourself but it is bullshit. My ex HAD two of you whores kidnap my daughter who was doing nothing at all wrong. He was just pissed off at her and wanted to get back at me. He lied about having custody and noone cared because he had the money. You fucking kidnappers took her out of a safe loving environment into a real shithole. NOW SHE'S FUCKING DEAD YOU CUNTS! AND YOU WHORES WERE PART OF THE PROCESS SO FUCK YOU! I hope you lose someone you love and rot in hell.
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Frankly the wave of disgust that washes over me every time the topic of teen escorts comes up makes it very difficult for me to deal with them.
Every other aspect of the "tough love" hategroup I can wrap my head around on an academic level but I am unable to comprehendhow you can justify such obvious evil to yourself.
Then it gets even worse, What sort of miserable subhuman excuse for a parent could possibly conceive of paying to have their child kidnapped!
I think I can honestly say that if the opportunity ever came I could kill Rick Strawn et al, I'd do it in a second and never lose a wink of sleep.
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There are some excellent teen escort companies. A kid I teach actually had more respect for his escorts than for most of his therapists. The escorts were the first people able to get him to do something he didn't want to do. They were courteous but firm, and gave him good information about the program to which they were taking him. These were guys in their twenties with families. They earned their money with this kid- he tried to get away a couple of times and it was a long trip.
If a program is necessary, in many cases the only way to get the kid there is with escorts. It is safer and more humane for all concerned.
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The only people who have any business turning up and taking a kid away in cuffs are the police.
Called it "more humane" than the program is like calling something "drier than the sea"
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On 2006-05-10 13:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"There are some excellent teen escort companies. A kid I teach actually had more respect for his escorts than for most of his therapists. The escorts were the first people able to get him to do something he didn't want to do. They were courteous but firm, and gave him good information about the program to which they were taking him. These were guys in their twenties with families. They earned their money with this kid- he tried to get away a couple of times and it was a long trip.
If a program is necessary, in many cases the only way to get the kid there is with escorts. It is safer and more humane for all concerned."
Actually, I'm going to remember how they took me, and I'm going to come home and act nice and happy for a week.
Then I'm going to dump a pot of boiling water on your head, before I beat it in with a solid pine baseball bat.
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On 2006-05-10 13:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"There are some excellent teen escort companies. A kid I teach actually had more respect for his escorts than for most of his therapists. The escorts were the first people able to get him to do something he didn't want to do. They were courteous but firm, and gave him good information about the program to which they were taking him. These were guys in their twenties with families. They earned their money with this kid- he tried to get away a couple of times and it was a long trip.
If a program is necessary, in many cases the only way to get the kid there is with escorts. It is safer and more humane for all concerned."
You could say that about anything nonconsentual, and make it sound good.
And, regardless, whitewashing and twisting words and totally ignoring the fact that he was taken by force, unconsentually, to a program, doesnt change the fact that he was kidnapped and sent to a program.
It is what it is, and it ain't what it ain't. People dont feel better or grow emotionally by being hurt, scared, or forced to do anything, emotional growth is bullshit in the first place, and programs are still just behavior mod warehouses, not magical cryfest thrive-places. :roll:
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"A kid I teach"....??? Like you're really a teacher with a student who went on and on providing these details about how humane but firm his escorts were. And you, as an educator, felt so compelled to seek out Fornits and tell us about how great a transport was for your student without a name.
This is obviously a troll.
:wstupid:
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Uh, its "safer and more humane" not to kidnap the kid in the first place. How about kidnapping some parents and hauling their asses off to Parent Camp? The kid tried to get away? But he had "more respect" for the kidnappers... was that before or after you maced him?
You guys are a bunch of sick-fuck Dog the Bounty Hunter wannabees too pussy-faced to go after real crimnals so you have to pick on kids. I am so impressed ::boohoo::
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These people could spin "safe and humane" rape.
And in a lot of ways, they are.
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Ok, The snapple incident occured in 03 as I was escorting a young teen to Tranquility Bay in Jamaica.
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The other escort I was refering to was an escort in 03 to Casa By The Sea. I had Costa Rica on my mind as my family and I are planing to vacation there this summer.I did however escort a couple of teens to Dundee Ranch before that program was shut down.
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I hate escorts. My mom had me escorted to Dundee Ranch. Got fucking woken up middle of the night. I was like WTF!!!
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I think it's ironic how all these people (kidnappers, prison guards) think they are some how helping kids. Get real.
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If they didnt believe it their entire worldview would collapse and theyd have to find something else to believe in and something else to justify their existance.
Programs are the opiate of... the asses!
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Bob, seems like you would just "kidnap" and take a child anywhere, huh? What were you paid for these fine services?
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I was paid $1250 each of those above mentioned escorts.
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Well, I'll be darn, Bob. That's a lot of money to just grab some kid up--probably out of his own bed, "somehow" get the kid on a plane, and just sit back and enjoy the plane ride.
Must have been a relief to turn this child over to his "nice, welcoming" school officials, huh?
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Yes, it was a nice feeling to be a part of the effort to save this child from imminent death.
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So Bob prefers to wash his "half-baked pizzas" down with Snapples, not have the pizzas chuck the beverages at him. Yet he admits he'll sell out for the hefty fee of $1250 per escort. There's a fate far worse awaiting him in the gates of hell. That money sure goes far when you live in a hick town.
:flame: :flame: :flame: <---Bob burning in hell
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bob is a troll
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This will most likely be the only thing me and you will ever agree on, he made his mistake in saying how much he got paid. A lead counsler will make between $400 and $500 for a 15-20 hour job. He is full of it $1250. No way.
The one Who cares
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To the Escort who claims most of us were not in programs: WRONG. And, speaking from experience as a non violent non drug induced former program teen, I can tell you MANY of the kids were pretty harmless and many parents just couldn't deal with the burden of raising teenagers. Also, both programs and parents are going to give you a spiel about these kids being too dangerous to escort themselves. The parents are cowards; and the programs have a vested interest in warehousing kids. Some parents were cowards and would rather pay a escort to take their child away than face the child theirselves. I can't tell you how many kids were escorted in my era that presented no threat to the parent other than fear of honesty. As for kids reacting against the escort, can you blame them? That would be a truly frightening and shocking meoment to be ambushed and essentially, kidnapped.
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On 2006-05-13 12:47:00, Bob wrote:
"Yes, it was a nice feeling to be a part of the effort to save this child from imminent death."
You must be joking; like you pulled the kid from in front of a speeding bus or somethng. I think you are only a troll. If you are for real, you are truly a deluded narcissist.
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On 2006-05-13 18:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
As for kids reacting against the escort, can you blame them? That would be a truly frightening and shocking meoment to be ambushed and essentially, kidnapped. "
They had damn well better resist. How do they know who these people are; grabbing them in the middle of night and handcuffing them? My kids are instructed to respond to stranger abduction by doing everything in their power to escape. They are to make as much noise as possible, hit, kick, bite, scratch, gouge, use anything as a weapon and never give up. That is to protect against pedophiles, but how would they know the difference between an escort and sex fiend? Of course, there probably isn't one.
They both have a sick way of 'caring' about kids.
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On 2006-05-13 17:23:00, Nihilanthic wrote:
"bob is a troll"
Bob, BSarro, etc. "Bob" is a troll with several login names. Good ol' Bronx Bob. Isn't that right. Bob? Or should I call you "Clarke"?
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Clarke? Arthur C. Clarke? I got a quote of his to share...
"The Information Age offers much to mankind, and I would like to think that we will rise to the challenges it presents. But it is vital to remember that information? in the sense of raw data? is not knowledge, that knowledge is not wisdom, and that wisdom is not foresight. But information is the first essential step to all of these."
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Out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a Professional Teen Kidnapper wearing body armour?
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They carry a forked tongue and cuffs, probably a t-shirt or some other sort of identifying clothing to put on the child. PERHAPS pepper spray.
A pissed off kid with a knife, bat, pipe, pepper spray or the like could probably fend one off.
I DO know of one who knew of the 'escort' coming and handcuffed himself to the bed and put the key in his mouth. Escort gave up and left, his parents were PISSED... :lol:
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They don't usually wear armor, but they travel in teams of 3-4 to overpower the kid. Their use of handcuffs and pepper spray is illegal in many states. Also, they have kidnapped 17 year olds from Texas which is illegal, as in TX children are legal adults at their 17th birthday.
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does anyone have a list of currently operating teen ecorts, their tactics and equipment?
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already on it.
Just wondered if anyone had already checked.