Fornits
General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Froderik on August 23, 2010, 04:20:24 PM
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See when you come to a forum like this and start fights with people who have been seriously abused then you might expect some backlash. But when you put all your personal info out there and start shit, well thats just plain stupid. Danny you have claimed service in the Marine Corps but I have access to all service DD214 files and I can only find one Danny Bennison that could be you. This person was thrown out of the military for charges relating to some child abuse. Explanation Danny?
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Hey Danny, how does Whooter's nut-sac taste? ::OMG::
Keep talkin' shit and I'll keep givin' it back.... A-HOLE. :fuckoff:
Frodie, I expected more of you. Stop with this ridiculous behavior.
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See when you come to a forum like this and start fights with people who have been seriously abused then you might expect some backlash. But when you put all your personal info out there and start shit, well thats just plain stupid. Danny you have claimed service in the Marine Corps but I have access to all service DD214 files and I can only find one Danny Bennison that could be you. This person was thrown out of the military for charges relating to some child abuse. Explanation Danny?
Very interesting. I'd like to hear more about this topic. Danny claims to be a lot of things, but this is one I'm sure he'll try to avoid.
This Danny Bennison?
As most of you know my name is Daniel L. Bennison, I live in Georgia.
This will be brief and to the point.
DOB 3/1/59
Resident Elan 6/75 - 1/77
Employee 1/77 - 11/78
Resigned 11/78
DANIEL L BENNISON, 4102 TOWNE LAKE HTS, (770)-650-6552.
Is Danny a construction worker?
Danny Bennison's My Space (http://http://www.myspace.com/dannyb3159) account. Two friends? I wonder why??
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See when you come to a forum like this and start fights with people who have been seriously abused then you might expect some backlash. But when you put all your personal info out there and start shit, well thats just plain stupid. Danny you have claimed service in the Marine Corps but I have access to all service DD214 files and I can only find one Danny Bennison that could be you. This person was thrown out of the military for charges relating to some child abuse. Explanation Danny?
Very interesting. I'd like to hear more about this topic. Danny claims to be a lot of things, but this is one I'm sure he'll try to avoid.
This Danny Bennison?
As most of you know my name is Daniel L. Bennison, I live in Georgia.
This will be brief and to the point.
DOB 3/1/59
Resident Elan 6/75 - 1/77
Employee 1/77 - 11/78
Resigned 11/78
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Is Danny a construction worker?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxDanny Bennison's My Space[/url] account. Two friends? I wonder why??
Dysfunction junction, you admittedly are afraid to fall asleep at night without having a loaded gun under your bed because of people from fornits calling you.
Yet you post other peoples address and personal information? Whats wrong with you?
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I have to ask Whootie Fish to please NOT post the info contained on my DD214. I know that my other personality SUCK IT emerged to play a nasty prank yesterday but please dont take out your very justified anger on me. I cannot control SUCK IT and in fact I am powerless over him completely. You see its like a fog creeps over my brain and the next thing I know I wake up on the floor in a public bathroom. Thats when i realize that SUCK IT has emerged and gone nuts again. Please forgive us.
DJ you have every right to demand the info contained on my DD214 but please dont provoke Whootie Fish into revealing it. I know, I know, I know that SUCK IT has played games just like this but dont punish me because of his shittyness.
Peace and Powerlessness
Danny
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See when you come to a forum like this and start fights with people who have been seriously abused then you might expect some backlash. But when you put all your personal info out there and start shit, well thats just plain stupid. Danny you have claimed service in the Marine Corps but I have access to all service DD214 files and I can only find one Danny Bennison that could be you. This person was thrown out of the military for charges relating to some child abuse. Explanation Danny?
Very interesting. I'd like to hear more about this topic. Danny claims to be a lot of things, but this is one I'm sure he'll try to avoid.
This Danny Bennison?
As most of you know my name is Daniel L. Bennison, I live in Georgia.
This will be brief and to the point.
DOB 3/1/59
Resident Elan 6/75 - 1/77
Employee 1/77 - 11/78
Resigned 11/78
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Is Danny a construction worker?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxDanny Bennison's My Space[/url] account. Two friends? I wonder why??
Dysfunction junction, you admittedly are afraid to fall asleep at night without having a loaded gun under your bed because of people from fornits calling you.
Yet you post other peoples address and personal information? Whats wrong with you?
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Danny himself posted it here on Fornits. I just copied it to this thread. Nice try though, dopey. Go ask Danny why he put this information on Fornits in the first place. Troll Danny for a while...
Nice fairy tale about me being "afraid of Fornits people" too. You're good at fabricationg stories.
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I have to ask Whootie Fish to please NOT post the info contained on my DD214. I know that my other personality SUCK IT emerged to play a nasty prank yesterday but please dont take out your very justified anger on me. I cannot control SUCK IT and in fact I am powerless over him completely. You see its like a fog creeps over my brain and the next thing I know I wake up on the floor in a public bathroom. Thats when i realize that SUCK IT has emerged and gone nuts again. Please forgive us.
DJ you have every right to demand the info contained on my DD214 but please dont provoke Whootie Fish into revealing it. I know, I know, I know that SUCK IT has played games just like this but dont punish me because of his shittyness.
Peace and Powerlessness
Danny
Oh, I'm not demanding anything. Don't worry. I just want to read it if it becomes public. You sent me your "olive branch" PM, Danny, groveling at my feet for forgiveness of your terrible acts and I let you off with just a warning, remember?
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Danny himself posted it here on Fornits. I just copied it to this thread. Nice try though, dopey. Go ask Danny why he put this information on Fornits in the first place. Troll Danny for a while...
Nice fairy tale about me being "afraid of Fornits people" too. You're good at fabricationg stories.
Exactly, Steve, he might regret that now just like you posted your full name on here at one point. Thats why you sleep with a loaded gun under your bed. Why would you do this to others?
That was my question, Why keep reposting it if you live in such fear yourself of people attacking you?
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No, that's false, again. I got threatening calls from HLA's "associates." Nothing to do with Fornits whatsoever. But, hey, why let that stop you from lying about it? Never has before.
Danny should erase his information if he doesn't want it here. He posted it, he can delete it. He chooses not to, so I guess he doesn't care. I wonder why if he doesn't care why you care so much for him? I don't think he needs you to "fight his battles," Whooter. He's guaranteed to lose if he does.
Take it up with Danny, loser.
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No, that's false, again. I got threatening calls from HLA's "associates." Nothing to do with Fornits whatsoever. But, hey, why let that stop you from lying about it? Never has before.
Danny should erase his information if he doesn't want it here. He posted it, he can delete it. He chooses not to, so I guess he doesn't care. I wonder why if he doesn't care why you care so much for him? I don't think he needs you to "fight his battles," Whooter. He's guaranteed to lose if he does.
Take it up with Danny, loser.
You stated that they were on fornits trolling you, why cant you be truthful just for once, DJ.
Maybe he should erase it, but the question is why if you live in fear of someone coming after you would you post or re-post someones personal information here on the fornits forum?
Why would you do that if you live in fear yourself? What type of person does that? What is there to gain?
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Oh, that's funny. Coming from the guy who got RBs (alleged) name from his "treatment records from HLA" and posted it here along with some annotation about his "gay issues." What did you gain from abusing that kid in this forum, Whooter? You're a sick, twisted fuck. Are you equating quoting an adult's name that he posted here with getting a kid's information from a program and gleefully calling him a "fag" and accusing him of "fucking dogs"? You really are sick, Whooter.
All I did was quote Danny. If you don't like Danny's info being posted, take it up with Danny. He posted it. Otherwise, shove off.
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I'm sorry I started this thread. As much as I disagree with Whooter (hell, who doesn't), and as much as I was angered by DB's insulting, lewd, and uncalled-for remark on another thread, I am not proud of having started this thread. My apologies to everyone.
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Whatever, Frod. It's not a bad thing. This douche SUCK IT started 10 threads about me in one day calling me a "child rapist," like Whooter did (coincidence?). Danny's an asshole who has threatened many with violence and some with sexual assault. These schmucks have no shame, dude. What you did is nothing compared to the vile shit these creeps do every day. Just because they are trying to claim the "moral high ground" doesn't make them moral or correct. These are not moral people.
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Whatever, Frod. It's not a bad thing. This douche SUCK IT started 10 threads about me in one day calling me a "child rapist," like Whooter did (coincidence?). Danny's an asshole who has threatened many with violence and some with sexual assault. These schmucks have no shame, dude. What you did is nothing compared to the vile shit these creeps do every day. Just because they are trying to claim the "moral high ground" doesn't make them moral or correct. These are not moral people.
Look, DJ, do have a link to where I called you a child Rapist? You make things up about people all day long. Can you provide a link?
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All I did was quote Danny. If you don't like Danny's info being posted, take it up with Danny. He posted it. Otherwise, shove off.
You posted his personal information, DJ. There is no getting around that. I just dont understand? You need to have a loaded shot gun under your bed at night in order to fall asleep because your information got out and people have made threats. You said yourself it isn't safe to post personal info on fornits, yet you have no problems posting another persons information out onto the open forum like that.
I would just like to know why a person would do something like that. Why did you do it?
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This douche SUCK IT started 10 threads about me in one day calling me a "child rapist,"
You term for what staff do to children in programs is "mindfucking". This is the term you use, not me. You also claim that all kids in programs are imprisoned against their will. Well, if the kids are being "mindfucked" against their will, could this not be considered "mind rape"? This is using your own logic, dysfunction. I call you a "mind rapist" because this is how you describe yourself, and what goes on in programs. I think it's a logical conclusion based on the terms and claims you make yourself. If you "mindfuck" a child against their will, couldn't you be called a "child mind rapist"? Since you received a paycheck in exchange for this mindrape, then you are a paid child mind rapist. This is using your own terminology, not mine.
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Why did I quote Danny? Because he posted something of interest. Ask Danny why he posted it. I just quoted him. Are you going to start calling me a rapist again because I don't agree with you? You're sick, Whooter. You have problems.
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Why did I quote Danny? Because he posted something of interest. Ask Danny why he posted it. I just quoted him. Are you going to start calling me a rapist again because I don't agree with you? You're sick, Whooter. You have problems.
Do you have a link where I called you a child rapist?
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You posted it about five times in this thread. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=30975&start=15#p374657) You keep spam-posting it over and over.
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You posted it about five times in this thread. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=30975&start=15#p374657) You keep spam-posting it over and over.
So no original post. You admit you just made it up.
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That's your original post. You wrote it. You're a sick bastard, Whooter.
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Sorry, Whooter, I made it up, there is no original. Everyone knows I would have posted the link if it existed. But you are a pain in my ass and I had to say something.
lol okay DJ, there is no original post where I stated that. Just wanted the readers to be aware.
This is your typical behavior when I expose your lies like I did today over in the HLA thread once again. Every time I catch you in a lie and expose you you do something like start a thread about me or create another entry in your footer.
If you would just be honest with the readers and not post your lies all the time I would not have to out you like this. Remember you bring it on yourself you know.
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Hey Danny, how does Whooter's nut-sac taste? ::OMG::
Keep talkin' shit and I'll keep givin' it back.... A-HOLE. :fuckoff:
Frodie, I expected more of you. Stop with this ridiculous behavior.
- The whooter report - :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: { Whooter has assumed the position. Danny how do Whooter's scrotums taste? }
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See when you come to a forum like this and start fights with people who have been seriously abused then you might expect some backlash. But when you put all your personal info out there and start shit, well thats just plain stupid. Danny you have claimed service in the Marine Corps but I have access to all service DD214 files and I can only find one Danny Bennison that could be you. This person was thrown out of the military for charges relating to some child abuse. Explanation Danny?
Very interesting. I'd like to hear more about this topic. Danny claims to be a lot of things, but this is one I'm sure he'll try to avoid.
This Danny Bennison?
As most of you know my name is Daniel L. Bennison, I live in Georgia.
This will be brief and to the point.
DOB 3/1/59
Resident Elan 6/75 - 1/77
Employee 1/77 - 11/78
Resigned 11/78
DANIEL L BENNISON, (address removed), (xxx)-xxx-xxxx.
Is Danny a construction worker?
Danny Bennison's My Space (http://http://www.myspace.com/dannyb3159) account. Two friends? I wonder why??
Dysfunction junction, Would you please edit out this persons personal information. Why am I the only one who opposes this post which exposes this person to danger. This sets a standard that it is okay to post anyones personal information openly on this forum.
Original is here: (Do the right thing, no more trying to impress Samara)
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
Why would a person do this to another especially when you yourself live in fear because your information got out?
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Sorry, Whooter, but I can't edit Danny's posts. He posted it and it's still there. If he chooses to delete it then he can. Right now you are the only one complaining. Danny hasn't said a word about it because he knows he put it up there. Quit trolling me and appeal to Danny to remove his "personal info."
You do realize that you have posted it several times now and even if I delete my post yours and Danny's will still be there, right. You're an idiot. Really. All this phony outrage while you continue to post Danny's info.
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Sorry, Whooter, but I can't edit Danny's posts. He posted it and it's still there. If he chooses to delete it then he can. Right now you are the only one complaining. Danny hasn't said a word about it because he knows he put it up there. Quit trolling me and appeal to Danny to remove his "personal info."
You do realize that you have posted it several times now and even if I delete my post yours and Danny's will still be there, right. You're an idiot. Really. All this phony outrage while you continue to post Danny's info.
Click the link, DJ, Danny cannot edit it. It is under your user name, only you can. Why do you put his information out there like that? What is the reason? What do you and "Pile of Dead Kids" get out of exposing people like this?
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I quoted him you retard. He can delete his original, but now that you have reposted it several times you are guilty of putting his personal info out there. Why would you do that if you think it's wrong?
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I quoted him you retard. He can delete his original, but now that you have reposted it several times you are guilty of putting his personal info out there. Why would you do that if you think it's wrong?
Original is here: (Do the right thing, no more trying to impress Samara).
Click on the link and you will see it is under your username, DJ, Danny cannot edit your post only you can.
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
Why would a person do this to another especially when you yourself live in fear because your information got out?
Your trolling is one thing but posting peoples personal information just isnt right. Block out his phone number name and address.
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So where did I get the quote of Danny's post, genius? How about those usernames now? Or are you still too phony to get it done?
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I quoted him you retard. He can delete his original, but now that you have reposted it several times you are guilty of putting his personal info out there. Why would you do that if you think it's wrong?
Original is here: (Do the right thing, no more trying to impress Samara).
Click on the link and you will see it is under your username, DJ, Danny cannot edit your post only you can.
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
Why would a person do this to another especially when you yourself live in fear because your information got out?
Your trolling is one thing but posting peoples personal information just isnt right. Block out his phone number name and address.
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See when you come to a forum like this and start fights with people who have been seriously abused then you might expect some backlash. But when you put all your personal info out there and start shit, well thats just plain stupid. Danny you have claimed service in the Marine Corps but I have access to all service DD214 files and I can only find one Danny Bennison that could be you. This person was thrown out of the military for charges relating to some child abuse. Explanation Danny?
Very interesting. I'd like to hear more about this topic. Danny claims to be a lot of things, but this is one I'm sure he'll try to avoid.
This Danny Bennison?
As most of you know my name is Daniel L. Bennison, I live in Georgia.
This will be brief and to the point.
DOB 3/1/59
Resident Elan 6/75 - 1/77
Employee 1/77 - 11/78
Resigned 11/78
DANIEL L BENNISON, (address removed), (xxx)-xxx-xxxx.
Is Danny a construction worker?
Danny Bennison's My Space (http://http://www.myspace.com/dannyb3159) account. Two friends? I wonder why??
Dysfunction junction, Would you please edit out this persons personal information. Why am I the only one who opposes this post which exposes this person to danger. This sets a standard that it is okay to post anyones personal information openly on this forum.
Original is here: (Do the right thing, no more trying to impress Samara)
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
Why would a person do this to another especially when you yourself live in fear because your information got out?
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I can't delete Danny's info that you and Danny have posted. Nothing I can do to stop you from posting Danny's info as you keep doing. Maybe you should quit posting it?
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I am not asking you to change anything other than what is under your username, DJ. No one can delete that information except you. All I am asking is to do the right thing, put our differences aside for a minute and think about it. Someone could use that information to hurt the person. Give it some thought.
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
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See when you come to a forum like this and start fights with people who have been seriously abused then you might expect some backlash. But when you put all your personal info out there and start shit, well thats just plain stupid. Danny you have claimed service in the Marine Corps but I have access to all service DD214 files and I can only find one Danny Bennison that could be you. This person was thrown out of the military for charges relating to some child abuse. Explanation Danny?
Very interesting. I'd like to hear more about this topic. Danny claims to be a lot of things, but this is one I'm sure he'll try to avoid.
This Danny Bennison?
As most of you know my name is Daniel L. Bennison, I live in Georgia.
This will be brief and to the point.
DOB 3/1/59
Resident Elan 6/75 - 1/77
Employee 1/77 - 11/78
Resigned 11/78
DANIEL L BENNISON, (address removed), (xxx)-xxx-xxxx.
Is Danny a construction worker?
Danny Bennison's My Space (http://http://www.myspace.com/dannyb3159) account. Two friends? I wonder why??
Dysfunction junction, Would you please edit out this persons personal information. Why am I the only one who opposes this post which exposes this person to danger. This sets a standard that it is okay to post anyones personal information openly on this forum.
Original is here: (Do the right thing, no more trying to impress Samara)
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
Why would a person do this to another especially when you yourself live in fear because your information got out?
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Priceless. Yet again Whooter show cases his hypocricy. Whooter openly adovcates and encourages the outing of personal information when it comes to people who oppose the absuive industry he loves so much, but when his life partner Danny gets exposed he cries about it.
Explain the double standard Whooter. I dare you.
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Sorry, Bruce, I dont see the humor. I dont see why you, Pile of Dead Kids, Dysfunction Junction and Samara advocate this type of behavior.
Aside from what you think about me, we should agree that posting a persons name and address and phone number on the open forum is just wrong. It is also dangerous.
All I asked is that DJ blank out his address, phone number and full name. We should put our differences aside for a minute and try to keep each other safe.
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
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Whooter, YOU do the right thing and stop accusing me of privacy invasion. I have NEVER advocated any type of forced disclosure and in fact, protested against it. This is continued lying with witnesses. I do not appreciate your persistence to falsely attribute acts to me that I in fact, oppose. This is why I have always said my antipathy for you is due to your methods rather than your program position. Your methodology is in fact, aligned with BAD program techniques, which undermines your stated alignment with positive programs.
The fact you keep lying about me is personal. It tells me all I need to know about your ethics as a father, an "industry expert" and as human being.
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Whooter, YOU do the right thing and stop accusing me of privacy invasion. I have NEVER advocated any type of forced disclosure and in fact, protested against it. This is continued lying with witnesses. I do not appreciate your persistence to falsely attribute acts to me that I in fact, oppose. This is why I have always said my antipathy for you is due to your methods rather than your program position. Your methodology is in fact, aligned with BAD program techniques, which undermines your stated alignment with positive programs.
The fact you keep lying about me is personal. It tells me all I need to know about your ethics as a father, an "industry expert" and as human being.
Well maybe I am wrong and Apologize if I am. I looked through the posts and you commented a few times before and after the post but never said that what Dysfunction junction did was wrong. Do you think it is okay for Dysfunction Junction to post other peoples names and phone numbers on the open forum?
Do you think DJ should take it down? or leave it up?
Just a few questions for you.
Remember, watching in silence says alot about a person also. If you spoke up about these issue you say you are against would make us believe you more. I could say I am against racist humor, but if I stand by and allow it to happen in my presence then that means I tolerate it. You tolerate putting peoples lives in danger, although you state you are against it. You are not alone many here do it also
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Listen DJ, if you want to post my business feel free. I have posted much.
One thing I will ask of you is, stop with this dual personality. One person, is this bad ass you show at times here openly but mainly in your pm's to me and this second personality, is this whiny little boy who screams and hollers foul just about every other post when he feels scared.
Last message I would like to leave you with, please stop with this incessant posting/arguing you do with Whooter.
It drives most of us crazy, please.
That sounds much better.
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Last message I would like to leave you, please stop with this incessant posting/arguing you do with Whooter. Do you understand most folks here believe you to be a complete jerk off.
I wouldn't say "jerk off" but it is getting annoying. Argue with Whooter about the program, fine, but this incessant personal drama is ridiculous. Unless this really demands an audience, can you please take your discussion with Whooter to the Drama Box (bottom forum).
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I just don't like lying, and when it pertains to me or someone else, I will say something.
I have not read any specific threads where DJ posted your private info.
I am opposed when anyone from any side posts private or family information. Just like I think it is repugnant someone called DJ's home and threatened his wife. He is not the only poster whose family has been exploited.
I am opposed to a certain type of extremity because I question motive, efficacy, and safety. I can dig a good radical, though. I view radicalism as different than extremism. I do admire people who protest, write articles or documentaries, or apply investigative techniques to bad programs.
I know some people have accused you of revealing identities as well, Whooter. I really haven't kept up with the whole who said-who said debate. Also, I don't really try and come up with conspiracy issues on certain posters with all the aliases. It's too Byzantine to entertain. I really don't give two shits about typos and spelling errors, either. I won't mock that. If you notice, I really don't get too involved in identity arguments. I'm not a sleuth. I could imagine, though, it I felt threatened from a security perspective, I would be more motivated to dig.
What it all boils down to for me is empathy and sincerity. Those are my main issues with you - not your position, per se. (Though I might vehemently disagree.) I also understand why you provoke such strong reactions in people after reviewing your derailment patterns and techniques. I actually think you are quite gifted. I just don't think it is in virtue or humanity. Again, this is not an ideological argument around the program perspective.
I think you enjoy spinning people spinning like a top. You certainly have an unnatural persistence for it. A real Tar Baby.
What you don't have is heart. I've seen it in many posters - including those whose tactics I don't appreciate, but I don't see it in you.
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Yeah, Psy, you are right. It's hard not to get mired in the muck, but agreed.
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I just don't like lying, and when it pertains to me or someone else, I will say something.
I have not read any specific threads where DJ posted your private info.
I am opposed when anyone from any side posts private or family information. Just like I think it is repugnant someone called DJ's home and threatened his wife. He is not the only poster whose family has been exploited.
I am opposed to a certain type of extremity because I question motive, efficacy, and safety. I can dig a good radical, though. I view radicalism as different than extremism. I do admire people who protest, write articles or documentaries, or apply investigative techniques to bad programs.
I know some people have accused you of revealing identities as well, Whooter. I really haven't kept up with the whole who said-who said debate. Also, I don't really try and come up with conspiracy issues on certain posters with all the aliases. It's too Byzantine to entertain. I really don't give two shits about typos and spelling errors, either. I won't mock that. If you notice, I really don't get too involved in identity arguments. I'm not a sleuth. I could imagine, though, it I felt threatened from a security perspective, I would be more motivated to dig.
What it all boils down to for me is empathy and sincerity. Those are my main issues with you - not your position, per se. (Though I might vehemently disagree.) I also understand why you provoke such strong reactions in people after reviewing your derailment patterns and techniques. I actually think you are quite gifted. I just don't think it is in virtue or humanity. Again, this is not an ideological argument around the program perspective.
I think you enjoy spinning people spinning like a top. You certainly have an unnatural persistence for it. A real Tar Baby.
What you don't have is heart. I've seen it in many posters - including those whose tactics I don't appreciate, but I don't see it in you.
I was referring to this:
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
I may be many things, Samara, but anyone who has been here for awhile knows that I am totally against posting peoples information on the open web. I have been this way since day one here. We had posters and even some admins who would post pictures and names of program staff who were young kids out of college and make fun of them for all their family to witness posting trash on the internet. It really bugs me that many stand around and just tolerate postings like what DJ did above and what Pile of Dead kids and Niles do here. To me that just shows they really dont care about other peoples safety. It seems to be all about making the programs (and people who work for them or talk positive about them) look as bad as possible at all costs and if kids and people get hurt in the process then who cares.
The apathy I see in yourself and others who just pass over these threads and never speak out to help someone... maybe just a "Hey DJ, thats not cool you should take it down". But we rarely see that. We saw a little resistance when Morgan and her family were exposed, but even then it was a little low key especially in light of the fact they put a 15 year old girl on a porn site with her home information.
If that were a pro-program person putting a survivors info out in the open like that because the survivor wouldn't change his/her story I think it would get more a response. There would be all out war here. To me it doesn't matter when it comes to safety. But others feel some deserve to be kept safe and others do not I guess.
I guess I have trouble understanding it.
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I may be many things, Samara, but anyone who has been here for awhile knows that I am totally against posting peoples information on the open web. I have been this way since day one here.
Unless they disagree with you right Whooter? You of all people have no place to talk. This is exactly why you have no credibility Whooter, and why no one takes you seriously. A guy who cries foul when treated to the same manner he's attempted to treat others isn't worth listening to.
I'm still waiting for you to explain the difference between this situation with Danny now, versus the situation with you claiming you had access to my HLA case file, and releasing information you believe you have on me on a public forum.
Explain yourself Whooter.
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I may be many things, Samara, but anyone who has been here for awhile knows that I am totally against posting peoples information on the open web. I have been this way since day one here.
Unless they disagree with you right Whooter? You of all people have no place to talk. This is exactly why you have no credibility Whooter, and why no one takes you seriously. A guy who cries foul when treated to the same manner he's attempted to treat others isn't worth listening to.
I'm still waiting for you to explain the difference between this situation with Danny now, versus the situation with you claiming you had access to my HLA case file, and releasing information you believe you have on me on a public forum.
Explain yourself Whooter.
I have never posted anyones info on the open web. I have had opportunity to do it and I have had the information but its not something I would ever do. Anyone who reads here knows this.
Why dont you try to contribute more here instead of trolling everyone, Robert? You had some experience in programs which may be helpful to others. Why do you have to attack people all the time?
I am not going to respond to your trolling or questions anymore unless the topic is industry related and not personal. Take it to the next person.
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I have had opportunity to do it and I have had the information but its not something I would ever do. Anyone who reads here knows this.
This is a lie (surprise, surprise). Whooter posted what he thought was RobertBruce's personal information many times before. He posted that RB only went to HLA for a couple weeks, was gay and discussed issues of "cowardice" in groups at HLA.
He claimed to have gotten this information from an HLA staff member who shared RB's treatment records with him. Of course, he posted it anonymously, but when his posts were linked up under his username, it was revealed and proven. I posted a couple of the instances yesterday.
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I have had opportunity to do it and I have had the information but its not something I would ever do. Anyone who reads here knows this.
This is a lie (surprise, surprise). Whooter posted what he thought was RobertBruce's personal information many times before.
Look, DJ, everyone here knows this is a sticky point with me. I am totally against this. If I did this you would have had links to your footer, I think we all know this by now and Bruce would have gone to the admins. My posts are all linked together now, just post the link to where I put up anybody's personal information.
Maybe while you are at it you can post the links where all these people have called you a child rapist. You have accused a few people of this including myself but no one here has ever seen it. Why the "poor me" sympathy bid all the time? You are like a little kid sometimes.
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While you claim to be totally against it, you tried to out RB by name and claimed access to his treatment records and even discussed his "issues" including being "gay" and "cowardice issues." You're just a fucking liar, dude. No way around that. It's proven. Say "I'm against it" all you want. It won't change what you posted which tells a different story.
Try a little honesty, admit it openly (it's not like it can't be proven over your denials anyway), apologize to RB for lying about him and trying to post his personal information and move on. Anything less is unacceptable. If nobody else will, I'll hold you accountable for your deplorable assaults on RB, which are well documented in your own words.
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Who... Since you have you PM turned off and this is the only way to contact you... I have a question for you, why do you continue to keep beating on this dead hors of a subject...LET IT GO DUDE.. I would almost rather go watch Animal Planet than come here because I already know what I am going to see when I see your name on a thread.. Do us all a favor, please engage your brain before letting your fingers go typing... BE A FREAKING ADULT ::deadhorse::
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I have had opportunity to do it and I have had the information but its not something I would ever do. Anyone who reads here knows this.
This is a lie (surprise, surprise). Whooter posted what he thought was RobertBruce's personal information many times before.
Look, DJ, everyone here knows this is a sticky point with me. I am totally against this. If I did this you would have had links to your footer, I think we all know this by now and Bruce would have gone to the admins. My posts are all linked together now, just post the link to where I put up anybody's personal information.
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One example of many below. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16007&p=335202#p335203)
Why does Bruce always revert back to the gay or homosexual theme... interesting. Kind of an HLA throw back? Still working on it, Devon?
Well...there's a name. And...there's an "issue." Plus...there's a facility. I can't see it getting any more "personal" than that.
Why would any adult go after an abused child like this to try to out their identity can call them gay? Why woud anyone do this?
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I have had opportunity to do it and I have had the information but its not something I would ever do. Anyone who reads here knows this.
This is a lie (surprise, surprise). Whooter posted what he thought was RobertBruce's personal information many times before.
Look, DJ, everyone here knows this is a sticky point with me. I am totally against this. If I did this you would have had links to your footer, I think we all know this by now and Bruce would have gone to the admins. My posts are all linked together now, just post the link to where I put up anybody's personal information.
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One example of many below. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16007&p=335202#p335203)
Why does Bruce always revert back to the gay or homosexual theme... interesting. Kind of an HLA throw back? Still working on it, Devon?
Well...there's a name. And...there's an "issue." Plus...there's a facility. I can't see it getting any more "personal" than that.
Why would any adult go after an abused child like this to try to out their identity can call them gay? Why woud anyone do this?
Wow! That brings back a good point. I always wondered why RB always reverted back to gay or homosexual themes when he was in an argument. I am not sure if he disliked gays, was threatened by them or was gay himself. But he always brought it into the argument somehow. He was really into that for awhile.
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I have had opportunity to do it and I have had the information but its not something I would ever do. Anyone who reads here knows this.
This is a lie (surprise, surprise). Whooter posted what he thought was RobertBruce's personal information many times before.
Look, DJ, everyone here knows this is a sticky point with me. I am totally against this. If I did this you would have had links to your footer, I think we all know this by now and Bruce would have gone to the admins. My posts are all linked together now, just post the link to where I put up anybody's personal information.
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One example of many below. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16007&p=335202#p335203)
Why does Bruce always revert back to the gay or homosexual theme... interesting. Kind of an HLA throw back? Still working on it, Devon?
Well...there's a name. And...there's an "issue." Plus...there's a facility. I can't see it getting any more "personal" than that.
Why would any adult go after an abused child like this to try to out their identity can call them gay? Why woud anyone do this?
Wow! That brings back a good point. I always wondered why RB always reverted back to gay or homosexual themes when he was in an argument. I am not sure if he disliked gays, was threatened by them or was gay himself. But he always brought it into the argument somehow. He was really into that for awhile.
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Look, DJ, everyone here knows this is a sticky point with me. I am totally against this. If I did this you would have had links to your footer, I think we all know this by now and Bruce would have gone to the admins. My posts are all linked together now, just post the link to where I put up anybody's personal information.
Here you go Whooter:
http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23338&p=284736&hilit=Devon#p284736
There was a similar issue about a year ago, where someone posted some private information about a person named Devon being bisexual , by one of the staff members (I cant mention the school). RobertBruce, I think was the poster, became very pissed off and came to this person Devons defense and claimed the staff violated a rule called HIPPA, the staff member claimed this person Devon posted this information himself and he was just repeating what he read here on fornits, not from the school, therefore no HIPPA violation. The original post was eventually found and he did state himself that he was bisexual so the staff person proved his case. Robertbruce later edited out the original message (I guess they were the same person). The question was asked if the information was gone forever and he was told that the original post could be retrieved if requested and that all edited and deleted posts are kept in the history folder.
So if someone claimed thewho admitted to being a sex offender there is an easy solution, just have the poster who claims he said it show us the post that was edited and webdiva, psy etc. can check the edit history or thewhos posts (edit history) can be screened by running a simple search for the word “registryâ€
And there you have it Whooter. Here is you releasing information on someone you believe to be me. Information you gained from an HLA employee. A clear and blatent violation of HIPPA laws. You attempted to cover your tracks by posting anon, and claiming you were only repeating an earlier conversation that you lied about and said I had been involved in. The fact is there was no earlier conversation, you released personal information, take respondsibility. Thank you for making it so easy to prove you to be a hypocrit and a liar. If it's someone who disagrees with you, you have no qualms about trying to release information from the shadows. Only when your own information or those who stupidly follow you do you have have an issue with it. The fact that you still after all this time don't know who I am or anything about me makes no difference.
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Look, DJ, everyone here knows this is a sticky point with me. I am totally against this. If I did this you would have had links to your footer, I think we all know this by now and Bruce would have gone to the admins. My posts are all linked together now, just post the link to where I put up anybody's personal information.
Here you go Whooter:
http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23338&p=284736&hilit=Devon#p284736
There was a similar issue about a year ago, where someone posted some private information about a person named Devon being bisexual , by one of the staff members (I cant mention the school). RobertBruce, I think was the poster, became very pissed off and came to this person Devons defense and claimed the staff violated a rule called HIPPA, the staff member claimed this person Devon posted this information himself and he was just repeating what he read here on fornits, not from the school, therefore no HIPPA violation. The original post was eventually found and he did state himself that he was bisexual so the staff person proved his case. Robertbruce later edited out the original message (I guess they were the same person). The question was asked if the information was gone forever and he was told that the original post could be retrieved if requested and that all edited and deleted posts are kept in the history folder.
So if someone claimed thewho admitted to being a sex offender there is an easy solution, just have the poster who claims he said it show us the post that was edited and webdiva, psy etc. can check the edit history or thewhos posts (edit history) can be screened by running a simple search for the word “registryâ€
And there you have it Whooter. Here is you releasing information on someone you believe to be me. Information you gained from an HLA employee. A clear and blatent violation of HIPPA laws. You attempted to cover your tracks by posting anon, and claiming you were only repeating an earlier conversation that you lied about and said I had been involved in. The fact is there was no earlier conversation, you released personal information, take respondsibility. Thank you for making it so easy to prove you to be a hypocrit and a liar. If it's someone who disagrees with you, you have no qualms about trying to release information from the shadows. Only when your own information or those who stupidly follow you do you have have an issue with it. The fact that you still after all this time don't know who I am or anything about me makes no difference.
Bruce have you been drinking? The post says you were the one who released the information lol. The problem you are having is between yourself and an HLA staff person as the post clearly shows.
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Except there was no earlier post Whooter. There's no previous conversation concerning it until you brought it up. Again, take some respondsibility for your actions. For once own up. You played a game and you're a hypocrite. This isn't a surprise to anyone here Whooter. You tried to cover your tracks but you apparently forgot about the whole thing when you had your posts linked up. If you're telling the truth you should have no trouble finding an earlier post corroborating your story. If not you only further establish you're a liar willing to break laws when it suits you.
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Except there was no earlier post Whooter. There's no previous conversation concerning it until you brought it up. Again, take some respondsibility for your actions. For once own up. You played a game and you're a hypocrite. This isn't a surprise to anyone here Whooter. You tried to cover your tracks but you apparently forgot about the whole thing when you had your posts linked up. If you're telling the truth you should have no trouble finding an earlier post corroborating your story. If not you only further establish you're a liar willing to break laws when it suits you.
I think you are on drugs tonight, Bruce. All my posts are linked up. I obviously didnt write an earlier post. I think it says that "you" did..... Go back and re-read the post. This is between you and an HLA guy. I was reporting the conversation. Someone also said I was a sex offender.. where is that post? lol It seems someone trolled you and then trolled me because it appears neither post exists (unless you did edit out your earlier comments) which would not surprise me.
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You're still dodging your own actions Whooter. Own up to things quickly. There is no earlier post because you were the original source. There's nothing to reference back because you lied about their being an earlier conversation. You thought by posting anonymously and later referencing your own post logged in you'd be covered. Looks like you slipped up again Whooter. You had a conversation with Function Junction, you claimed he gave you information regarding me including details of my stay at HLA. Take a look:
by TheWho » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:59 am
"RobertBruce" wrote:
Now Cindy do you know for a fact I was never abused while at HLA?
If so how?
Actually, I do know you were never abused. Someone gave me the low down on you via a PM. Half the stuff you say is lies, but I knew that first hand from what you have posted here.
Explain yourself Whooter, quickly.
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http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=21088&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50
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You're still dodging your own actions Whooter. Own up to things quickly. There is no earlier post because you were the original source. There's nothing to reference back because you lied about their being an earlier conversation. You thought by posting anonymously and later referencing your own post logged in you'd be covered. Looks like you slipped up again Whooter. You had a conversation with Function Junction, you claimed he gave you information regarding me including details of my stay at HLA. Take a look:
by TheWho » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:59 am
"RobertBruce" wrote:
Now Cindy do you know for a fact I was never abused while at HLA?
If so how?
Actually, I do know you were never abused. Someone gave me the low down on you via a PM. Half the stuff you say is lies, but I knew that first hand from what you have posted here.
Explain yourself Whooter, quickly.
So it was Function junction that was saying that? I remember him. He was trolling DJ big time. So this Function Junction guy PM's me and told me most of what you said was lies? I sort of remember that. but I knew already that you were trolling me and making things up.
Thats funny...... Remember Deborah would get made and split the threads off everytime you came along and started trolling me. I remember that you would always ask people questions but never answered any yourself and then you would hound them.
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Function Junction was smarter than you Whooter. He used you to do his dirty work for him. He knew we already had his ip address and that it showed he was posting from HLA. If he gave out personal information regarding a former inmate ORS would have been on him in a second for violating HIPPA laws. Instead he found a stoolie in you to do it for him. He gave you information he claimed concerned me. You readily accepted it and jumped at the opportunity to think you were holding something over my head. Since that time you've made repeated references to information you think you have on me, while crying whenever the same is done to you or your fellow child abuse supporters.
Explain yourself quickly.
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Function Junction was smarter than you Whooter. He used you to do his dirty work for him. He knew we already had his ip address and that it showed he was posting from HLA. If he gave out personal information regarding a former inmate ORS would have been on him in a second for violating HIPPA laws. Instead he found a stoolie in you to do it for him. He gave you information he claimed concerned me. You readily accepted it and jumped at the opportunity to think you were holding something over my head. Since that time you've made repeated references to information you think you have on me, while crying whenever the same is done to you or your fellow child abuse supporters.
Explain yourself quickly.
Again I think you are drinking, Bruce. I think if you go back and look at the posts you will see that this Function guy was trolling DJ. I am not even sure I was involved in that troll session.
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Your own posts proves that you were Whooter. Everyone here knows that you hate accountability, but luckily you've been blocked from editing any more of your posts. It's right there for anyone to see and you can't do a thing about it. You made the comments to me after you spoke with Function Junction. Don't try and avoid respondsibility Whooter.
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Your own posts proves that you were Whooter.
Ahhh, no they dont. Its all in your mind, Bruce. All my posts have been linked together, remember?
Everyone here knows that you hate accountability,
Actually it is just the opposite
but luckily you've been blocked from editing any more of your posts.
No luck involved. I asked Psy to lock the posts and out of fairness I will refrain from editing any posts I still have control over.
It's right there for anyone to see and you can't do a thing about it. You made the comments to me after you spoke with Function Junction. Don't try and avoid respondsibility Whooter.
Exactly, Bruce, it is all here for everyone to see and I take responsibility for my words.
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Ahhh, no they dont. Its all in your mind, Bruce. All my posts have been linked together, remember?
Which is why the post has your name on the top of it. Are you still of the mindset that if you deny an obvious truth long enough you can make it not so? I know you have trouble with reading comprehension so let me break it down for you:
Event 1) You fully acknowledged receiving a PM with information purported to be about me. You attempted to blackmail me into taking your side regarding an issue and were somehow incapable of understanding my repeated assertions that your information was invalid and your threat was meaningless, and I simply didnt care.
Event 2) You then later claimed anonymously that an earlier conversation had taken place detailing the information you had been given. You did so despite the fact that no such earlier conversation existed, nor was there any previous reference to it.
Event 3) You when logged in began citing yourself as your own source in an effort to avoid respondsibility.
Event 4) You still currently make reference to infomation you believe you have on me and my incarceration at HLA. You refuse to ever back up your claims because doing so would expose your double standard.
Event 5) Your anonymous postings were exposed and you have been proven to be a hypocrit.
Stop avoidigng accountability and explain yourself. Quickly.
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Ahhh, no they dont. Its all in your mind, Bruce. All my posts have been linked together, remember?
Which is why the post has your name on the top of it. Are you still of the mindset that if you deny an obvious truth long enough you can make it not so? I know you have trouble with reading comprehension so let me break it down for you:
Event 1) You fully acknowledged receiving a PM with information purported to be about me. You attempted to blackmail me into taking your side regarding an issue and were somehow incapable of understanding my repeated assertions that your information was invalid and your threat was meaningless, and I simply didnt care.
Event 2) You then later claimed anonymously that an earlier conversation had taken place detailing the information you had been given. You did so despite the fact that no such earlier conversation existed, nor was there any previous reference to it.
Event 3) You when logged in began citing yourself as your own source in an effort to avoid respondsibility.
Event 4) You still currently make reference to infomation you believe you have on me and my incarceration at HLA. You refuse to ever back up your claims because doing so would expose your double standard.
Event 5) Your anonymous postings were exposed and you have been proven to be a hypocrit.
Stop avoidigng accountability and explain yourself. Quickly.
LOL, The pm I received was from someone telling me not to believe what you say and that you were not being truthful. If you dont stop this right now I am going to release all your personal information on the open forum... including photographs of your pets, do you hear me?
Oh,no!!! Is that Blackmail?
Grow-up Bruce.
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LOL, The pm I received was from someone telling me not to believe what you say and that you were not being truthful. If you dont stop this right now I am going to release all your personal information on the open forum... including photographs of your pets, do you hear me?
Oh,no!!! Is that Blackmail?
Grow-up Bruce.
Knock yourself out Whooter, Pugsley is quite photogenic and would probably be flattered that you cyber stalk him.
You don't have personal information about me, you never did. You never got that not only were you being used, but that the joke was on you.
You've tried to gloat with this information far too much to try your usual back pedaling. There's no where for you to go Whooter, you're nothing more than a sad mess. You've got mud all over your face and there's still nothing you can do about it. Clean yourself up, you're about to be forced to owning up to your actions for the first time in your life. You will acknolwedge your actions or you will deal with the consequences.
You have repeatedly on this forum claimed that I was only locked up in HLA for 'a few weeks' ,cite your source Whooter. You're either making it up, or someone gave you the information. You've made numerous claims to recieving information about me concerning my time in HLA, so it sounds like the latter. Explain yourself.
You openly claimed on this forum and via PM's that I was bisexual. You even went so far as to say you had been given the information via a PM from another poster. Again, explain yourself quickly.
Time to man up son.
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You don't have personal information about me, you never did. You never got that not only were you being used, but that the joke was on you.
You've tried to gloat with this information far too much to try your usual back pedaling. There's no where for you to go Whooter, you're nothing more than a sad mess. You've got mud all over your face and there's still nothing you can do about it. Clean yourself up, you're about to be forced to owning up to your actions for the first time in your life. You will acknolwedge your actions or you will deal with the consequences.
So you don’t like it when people gloat? How about if a person says they have pictures of my kids, my address and phone number and threaten to put it out on the forum. How about when they actually did place it on the forum. When all this transpired people like you had a good time. I have been through this several times myself, Bruce, you never did so stop your crying.
You have repeatedly on this forum claimed that I was only locked up in HLA for 'a few weeks' ,cite your source Whooter.
I will say it again, Bruce, You only attended HLA for a few weeks, quit your belly aching. Many kids were there for over a year. It was defined earlier on fornits that you need to stay in a program for 30 days or more to be able to claim the classification of survivor. As always you fell short.
You're either making it up, or someone gave you the information. You've made numerous claims to recieving information about me concerning my time in HLA, so it sounds like the latter. Explain yourself.
Several people told me. They also said you lied a lot, Bruce, is this true?
You openly claimed on this forum and via PM's that I was bisexual. You even went so far as to say you had been given the information via a PM from another poster. Again, explain yourself quickly.
I don’t care if you are bisexual or not. Why are you so fixated on this topic. I will PM you telling you that you are bisexual again if you like or I can tell you openly on this forum. I will bribe you into agreeing with me, or I will release the fact that you didn’t attend a program for very long!! Lol It doesn’t matter to me.
Again all my posts are linked up. If there is one or several that bother you then give us all a link to it and we can take a look.
Do you want to see where people put my personal info out on the forum?
Note: You have a tendency to want to discuss things ad nauseum. I am not going to continue to entertain you with your problems. If you have a post where I trolled you then place it up. No more questions. Okay Bob?
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So what you're saying is, is that you never had anything and are a liar?
Not a surprise there John, everyone already knew this about you. It's not a mystery anymore than the fact that you killed your son and locked the other one way.
I was in HLA for over a year John, I can prove it, and you can't prove anything to the contrary.
While I take no issue with those who are bisexual, I myself am not, nor have I ever been. The fact that you were told this by an HLA staff member is only further testament to the fact that the therapy and diagnosis plans given there were given out by unqualified, unlicensed hacks. In addition to further proving that both you and Buch are fine circumventing the laws, so long as it helps your kiddie abusing industry. It also only goes to highlight your stupidity, bias and naivity. You jumped at the chance to have what you felt was negative information about a anti program poster. You never actually sought out the truth in anything.
You're done John, you've got no evidence to back up any of your claims and you've been forced to eat crow once again. Clean yourself up you slob. The next time you make any unfounded claim about anyone or anything without backing it up I'm going to start dropping info Max shared with me.
Be very careful Johnny. You started this game and then you got what was coming to you. Don't cry about it now.
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The next time you make any unfounded claim about anyone or anything without backing it up I'm going to start dropping info Max shared with me.
Be very careful Johnny. You started this game and then you got what was coming to you. Don't cry about it now.
Oh No!!
Claim 1: You were only in HLA for a few weeks. You need to have a minimum of 30 days to be able to claim the title of survivor. These rules were established 7 years ago by a special committee of fornits admins. You came up short again.
Claim 2: You talk about your sexuality all over the forum and then blame everyone else if they comment on it. You did this with Function Junction and many others. No one is really interested, Bob.
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Claim 1: You were only in HLA for a few weeks. You need to have a minimum of 30 days to be able to claim the title of survivor. These rules were established 7 years ago by a special committee of fornits admins. You came up short again.
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When did you become an authoritive on Survivor status... Please provide link proving your statement on Admins ruling on Survivor status...
Peace
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Claim 1: You were only in HLA for a few weeks. You need to have a minimum of 30 days to be able to claim the title of survivor. These rules were established 7 years ago by a special committee of fornits admins. You came up short again.
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When did you become an authoritive on Survivor status... Pleas provide link proving your statement on Admins ruling on Survivor status...
Peace
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It was a secret meeting held in an abandoned burned out gulag on a very stormy night about 7 years ago. The reason I remember it so well is because I was very upset that night that I was not invited to the meeting. Only a few select fornits posters and admins attended and (among other definitions) they came up with a 30 day minimum stay to be considered a survivor. You could still speak about your experiences, but you couldnt claim the title. They are a very secret society so everyone will deny that they exist, but they do enforce the rules regardless.
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Claim 1: You were only in HLA for a few weeks. You need to have a minimum of 30 days to be able to claim the title of survivor. These rules were established 7 years ago by a special committee of fornits admins. You came up short again.
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When did you become an authoritive on Survivor status... Pleas provide link proving your statement on Admins ruling on Survivor status...
Peace
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It was a secret meeting held in an abandoned burned out gulag on a very stormy night about 7 years ago. I remember it well because I was upset that I was not invited. Only a few select fornits posters and admins attended and (among other definitions) they came up with a 30 day minimum stay to be considered a survivor. You could still speak about your experiences, but you couldnt claim the title. They are a very secret society so everyone will deny that they exist, but they do enforce the rules regardless.
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No link... No proof... Your words must be taken as here say... which is not evidence proving your point!!!
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Peace
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Claim 1: You were only in HLA for a few weeks. You need to have a minimum of 30 days to be able to claim the title of survivor. These rules were established 7 years ago by a special committee of fornits admins. You came up short again.
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When did you become an authoritive on Survivor status... Pleas provide link proving your statement on Admins ruling on Survivor status...
Peace
:peace:
It was a secret meeting held in an abandoned burned out gulag on a very stormy night about 7 years ago. I remember it well because I was upset that I was not invited. Only a few select fornits posters and admins attended and (among other definitions) they came up with a 30 day minimum stay to be considered a survivor. You could still speak about your experiences, but you couldnt claim the title. They are a very secret society so everyone will deny that they exist, but they do enforce the rules regardless.
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No link... No proof... Your words must be taken as here say... which is not evidence proving your point!!!
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Peace
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I take it from your post that you were not invited either,Botched. Its a sucky feeling I know. But I see what you are saying. Maybe we can make an exception and make RobertBruce an honorary survivor by including the time he spends here on fornits abusing and trolling fellow posters as time spent in the field. If we added 10 days to his time at HLA he would tip the scales at 31 days.
I vote to help the little fellow out. If no one disagrees or objects then it will become official in 24 hours from this post.
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It was a secret meeting held in an abandoned burned out gulag on a very stormy night about 7 years ago. The reason I remember it so well is because I was very upset that night that I was not invited to the meeting. Only a few select fornits posters and admins attended and (among other definitions) they came up with a 30 day minimum stay to be considered a survivor. You could still speak about your experiences, but you couldnt claim the title. They are a very secret society so everyone will deny that they exist, but they do enforce the rules regardless.
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If no one disagrees or objects then it will become official in 24 hours from this post.
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It was a secret meeting held in an abandoned burned out gulag on a very stormy night about 7 years ago. The reason I remember it so well is because I was very upset that night that I was not invited to the meeting. Only a few select fornits posters and admins attended and (among other definitions) they came up with a 30 day minimum stay to be considered a survivor. You could still speak about your experiences, but you couldnt claim the title. They are a very secret society so everyone will deny that they exist, but they do enforce the rules regardless.
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Seriously though....What kind of drugs are you on dude ?? :seg:
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I take it from your post that you were not invited either,Botched. Its a sucky feeling I know. But I see what you are saying. Maybe we can make an exception and make RobertBruce an honorary survivor by including the time he spends here on fornits abusing and trolling fellow posters as time spent in the field. If we added 10 days to his time at HLA he would tip the scales at 31 days.
I vote to help the little fellow out. If no one disagrees or objects then it will become official in 24 hours from this post.
So, still no proof. Why don't you just come out and say that? I've spoken about a girl who literally went nuts after being there 3 weeks. She never wrote an MI, never spoke and when she was "stood up" to be confronted she reached into her jeans and pulled out a used Kotex and threw it at the staff. I think she counts as a survivor. It doesn't take long to brainwash someone. Just read up on the MK-Ultra project.
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I take it from your post that you were not invited either,Botched. Its a sucky feeling I know. But I see what you are saying. Maybe we can make an exception and make RobertBruce an honorary survivor by including the time he spends here on fornits abusing and trolling fellow posters as time spent in the field. If we added 10 days to his time at HLA he would tip the scales at 31 days.
I vote to help the little fellow out. If no one disagrees or objects then it will become official in 24 hours from this post.
So, still no proof. Why don't you just come out and say that? I've spoken about a girl who literally went nuts after being there 3 weeks. She never wrote an MI, never spoke and when she was "stood up" to be confronted she reached into her jeans and pulled out a used Kotex and threw it at the staff. I think she counts as a survivor. It doesn't take long to brainwash someone. Just read up on the MK-Ultra project.
Sorry, I didnt make up the rules, Anne.
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I take it from your post that you were not invited either,Botched. Its a sucky feeling I know. But I see what you are saying. Maybe we can make an exception and make RobertBruce an honorary survivor by including the time he spends here on fornits abusing and trolling fellow posters as time spent in the field. If we added 10 days to his time at HLA he would tip the scales at 31 days.
I vote to help the little fellow out. If no one disagrees or objects then it will become official in 24 hours from this post.
So, still no proof. Why don't you just come out and say that? I've spoken about a girl who literally went nuts after being there 3 weeks. She never wrote an MI, never spoke and when she was "stood up" to be confronted she reached into her jeans and pulled out a used Kotex and threw it at the staff. I think she counts as a survivor. It doesn't take long to brainwash someone. Just read up on the MK-Ultra project.
Sorry, I didnt make up the rules, Anne.
What rules? That if you were in a program less than a month you can't be considered a survivor?
So, do you have proof or a link to what Botched was asking about? A simple yes or no will suffice, no need for the rambling distraction.
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It was a secret meeting held in an abandoned burned out gulag on a very stormy night about 7 years ago. The reason I remember it so well is because I was very upset that night that I was not invited to the meeting. Only a few select fornits posters and admins attended and (among other definitions) they came up with a 30 day minimum stay to be considered a survivor. You could still speak about your experiences, but you couldnt claim the title. They are a very secret society so everyone will deny that they exist, but they do enforce the rules regardless.
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Seriously though....What kind of drugs are you on dude ?? :seg:
Seriously though .....
Hey Anne it was a secret meeting in his mind with the shitty commitee... :dose:
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John, I'm going to give you a single opportunity to either back up your claims or retract them. You have no evidence to support any of your accusations against me, you have no knowledge of who I am, nor any details of my life. You are on entirely equal footing with Buch in that neither one of you has any clue as to who I am, and that you both support child abuse. You need to accept this, it's for your own benefit. You now have two choices:
1. Retract your claims that you know anything about me. I don't require an apology from you, just your acknowledgement that you were wrong. Once done I will not mention the issue again and we can move on. Given that you have no evidence to support any of your claims and are wrong on all counts this would seem the better option for you.
2. You can attempt to back up your claim. Again given that you're incorrect and that you don't know who I am this is probably not the best route to take. However, if you're under the delusion that you are correct and think you can prove it, by all means, have at it. I can tell you you're going to be embarrassed again.
If you choose neither one of these options and simply continue to spew out your misguided nonsense and play your usual troll games I'm going to lay out exactly what the consequences for you will be. I promise you John, you won't like them.
So then John here are your claims:
You were only in HLA for a few weeks
Prove it or retract it.
You talk about your sexuality all over the forum and then blame everyone else if they comment on it
Don't back peddal John, you claimed to have specific post. If it exist it shouldnt be too hard to find. Talking about sexuality could refer to anything, including heterosexuality. Own up to your claims.
Make your choice John.
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Speaking of the consequences Robert Bruce. [I know you'll do nothing] There are a couple of options you have IMHO. You can make threats, take legal action against Whooter, settle this issue with him via personal messages or have your marriage spat with him in the drama box. Do you think he'll apologize even if he did anything wrong to you?
Don't be so sure Joely. No apology is needed, since he was never right about any of his claims he didn't actually hurt me at all. He does however still need to either attempt to back up his claims, or admit he was wrong.The consequences towards John if he doesn't deal with the matter are very real, and will impact him in a huge way.
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Deleting things already Joely? Gotta love that quote feature don't you?
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Oh No !!! Blackmail again?
So then John here are your claims:
You were only in HLA for a few weeks
Prove it or retract it.
Its a known fact, Bruce. It has been stated several times on this forum and at one point you admitted it yourself. You attended for less than a month. If I retracted it I would be lying to the readers.
You talk about your sexuality all over the forum and then blame everyone else if they comment on it
Don't back peddal John, you claimed to have specific post. If it exist it shouldnt be too hard to find. Talking about sexuality could refer to anything, including heterosexuality. Own up to your claims.
Make your choice John.
No back peddling, you are far too fixated on sexual stuff, this is a fact. I think anyone who has watched you post would agree that you do not engage in any honest conversation. Rather you confront people and ask question after question without answering any yourself. You avoid interacting and sharing your experiences with the posters while at the same time trying to force them to answer your questions and then making fun of their answers......Then if someone makes an off cuff comment you start crying to the admins.
I think you do this because you have no real experience being in a program since you barely got past orientation. So you contribute by ridiculing others.
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Its a known fact, Bruce. It has been stated several times on this forum and at one point you admitted it yourself. You attended for less than a month. If I retracted it I would be lying to the readers.
Then prove it John. If it's really as common place as you claim, you should have no trouble finding an instance of me corroborating your claim. It's time to put your money where your mouth is, or back away quietly.
No back peddling, you are far too fixated on sexual stuff, this is a fact. I think anyone who has watched you post would agree that you do not engage in any honest conversation. Rather you confront people and ask question after question without answering any yourself. You avoid interacting and sharing your experiences with the posters while at the same time trying to force them to answer your questions and then making fun of their answers......Then if someone makes an off cuff comment you start crying to the admins.
I think you do this because you have no real experience being in a program since you barely got past orientation. So you contribute by ridiculing others.
No generalizations John, specifics. Provide the post that proves your specific claim. Put up or shut up John, the clock is ticking.
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Its a known fact, Bruce. It has been stated several times on this forum and at one point you admitted it yourself. You attended for less than a month. If I retracted it I would be lying to the readers.
Then prove it John. If it's really as common place as you claim, you should have no trouble finding an instance of me corroborating your claim. It's time to put your money where your mouth is, or back away quietly.
No back peddling, you are far too fixated on sexual stuff, this is a fact. I think anyone who has watched you post would agree that you do not engage in any honest conversation. Rather you confront people and ask question after question without answering any yourself. You avoid interacting and sharing your experiences with the posters while at the same time trying to force them to answer your questions and then making fun of their answers......Then if someone makes an off cuff comment you start crying to the admins.
I think you do this because you have no real experience being in a program since you barely got past orientation. So you contribute by ridiculing others.
No generalizations John, specifics. Provide the post that proves your specific claim. Put up or shut up John, the clock is ticking.
You call me John Reuben all day long, Bruce. Why dont you prove that first. You have been doing it for several months or a year. You always ask people to do things that you are not willing to do yourself. Prove I am John Reuben or ... hmmm what was that you said? oh... back off slowly.. lol. Then we will talk about your short stay in HLA. Fair enough?
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You already did that for me John. You acknowledged yourself that you are in fact John Reuben. Now get to it. None of your usual games of only accepting answers you want to hear, attempting to deflect your own issues onto others, demanding various criteria be met before you'll make good, only to never deliver. You will own up for your actions or you will face the consequences. It's just that simple John.
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You already did that for me John. You acknowledged yourself that you are in fact John Reuben. Now get to it. None of your usual games of only accepting answers you want to hear, attempting to deflect your own issues onto others, demanding various criteria be met before you'll make good, only to never deliver. You will own up for your actions or you will face the consequences. It's just that simple John.
Okay, you acknowledged yourself that you only spent a few weeks in HLA and now that you found out there is a minimum requirement of 30 days to be considered a "survivor" you want to change it. You cant just change the facts to suit the present argument, Bruce.
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Okay, you acknowledged yourself that you only spent a few weeks in HLA and now that you found out there is a minimum requirement of 30 days to be considered a "survivor" you want to change it. You cant just change the facts to suit the present argument, Bruce.
Then prove it.
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You already did that for me John. You acknowledged yourself that you are in fact John Reuben.
Then Prove it. lol
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
by TheWho » Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:40 am
Guest wrote:
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John must be too busy enSlavingTeens right now to answer.
Yes, he takes gubmint dollars (your tax dollars) and uses them to imprison youths privately at various quack-holes.
Why is that a crime? They use tax dollars for far worse things than imprisoning youths. At least they are kept safe here. Imagine if they were shipped overseas with private funding where people hate Americans. You would see abuse on a whole new level. All my work stays within the confines of the US borders... no 2nd rate programs.
http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903&hilit=where+he+wanted+to+punch+you+out&start=135#p336867
Now, let's see if you can come up with anything at all. None of your usual games John, either prove your claim or admit you lied. My patience is wearing thin.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
by TheWho » Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:40 am
Guest wrote:
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John must be too busy enSlavingTeens right now to answer.
Yes, he takes gubmint dollars (your tax dollars) and uses them to imprison youths privately at various quack-holes.
Why is that a crime? They use tax dollars for far worse things than imprisoning youths. At least they are kept safe here. Imagine if they were shipped overseas with private funding where people hate Americans. You would see abuse on a whole new level. All my work stays within the confines of the US borders... no 2nd rate programs.
http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903&hilit=where+he+wanted+to+punch+you+out&start=135#p336867
Now, let's see if you can come up with anything at all. None of your usual games John, either prove your claim or admit you lied. My patience is wearing thin.
Nice try, Bruce.......All my work "does" stay within the confines of the US, but I am not John Reuben. lol
Try again and lets make it quick, Bruce, as you say. I dont want to make this another one of your marathon discussions. Dont come back until you have proof this time.
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No more games John, this is about you not me. You lied and made a claim you can't back up, now you're going to be held respondsible for that. This is your last chance, here's what's going to happen if you don't own up to your actions: Since I know for a fact that you are John Reuben I'm going to bring Mountain to Moses. Discrediting and exposing you on here is meaningless, you've lost all credibility on here long ago. Instead I'm going to bring all of this into your unplugged world. Your family, your co workers, even that woman you did the interview with on the radio. They are all about to find out just how sick and disgusting you really are. An entire collection of your greatest hits is ready to go, and with the click of a few buttons, it will. Do not test my resolve on this John. I will very expose you in a very public way. You will be humiliated and unable to show your face to anyone. You may even have to follow your son's route.
Choose wisely John.
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No more games John, this is about you not me. You lied and made a claim you can't back up, now you're going to be held respondsible for that. This is your last chance, here's what's going to happen if you don't own up to your actions: Since I know for a fact that you are John Reuben I'm going to bring Mountain to Moses. Discrediting and exposing you on here is meaningless, you've lost all credibility on here long ago. Instead I'm going to bring all of this into your unplugged world. Your family, your co workers, even that woman you did the interview with on the radio. They are all about to find out just how sick and disgusting you really are. An entire collection of your greatest hits is ready to go, and with the click of a few buttons, it will. Do not test my resolve on this John. I will very expose you in a very public way. You will be humiliated and unable to show your face to anyone. You may even have to follow your son's route.
Choose wisely John.
WOW you really hit a new low, Bruce.....So you are trying to blackmail me into telling everyone that you were at HLA for more than 3 weeks? Well, I am not going to lie for you Bruce. We both know you were there a short time... 2 to 3 weeks tops. Then you ran off ended up with the police where you had a good laugh. You didnt report any abuse. You lied on fornits just to get back at HLA. You never did take accountability for your actions and now look at you. Trying to blackmail someone you dont even know on the internet to keep your facade going.
I am amazed that you didnt contact this Reuben guy a year ago. If it were me I would have at least sent him an email to verify he knew what was going on here on fornits.
Jusy a warning to you. If you contact him directly then the worse he can do is try to get the IP numbers from ginger with a court order to figure out who was talking about him, his wife and his sons on the internet. But if you contact people other than himself and slander him then he will probably successfully sue you.
Advice: I would talk to Psy before you push the button. He has had some experience with this..... Just cover your ass first, Bro.
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WOW you really hit a new low, Bruce.....So you are trying to blackmail me into telling everyone that you were at HLA for more than 3 weeks? Well, I am not going to lie for you Bruce. We both know you were there a short time... 2 to 3 weeks tops. Then you ran off ended up with the police where you had a good laugh. You didnt report any abuse. You lied on fornits just to get back at HLA. You never did take accountability for your actions and now look at you. Trying to blackmail someone you dont even know on the internet to keep your facade going.
Who is asking you to lie John? I gave you two options. You can either prove your claim, or you can admit you made it up. According to you the basis for your claim comes from posts that I myself made and others discussed. If that's the case then you should have no problem proving your claim. If you can't simply admit you made it up and I'll drop the matter entirely. It's up to you, but time is running out.
As far as your concern for if and when I release your own statements to those around you, I've got it covered, I appreciate your worry though.
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As an aside.......Just to add irony to all of this. In the link you provided trying to show you thought I was Reuben. If you look a few posts down you were calling me Peter Dunbar! Remember when everyone thought I was him? (You particularly) That created some Epic trolling and then when you thought I was this Reuben fella you and DJ dedicated your entire time trying to discredit me and making everyone think I was him.
I think DJ created 6 or 7 threads dedicated to just John Reuben alone. Nothing will top the trolling summits of "TheWho" thread though. That was yours and DJ's biggest thread contribution. It was a trash heap but it was fun.
I would try not to take it so personally, though, Robert.
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Oh I was completly wrong about you being Peter Dunbar, no shame in admitting that. Not all that different in you being wrong about all your claims concerning me. You should try admitting when wrong yourself, you might find it cathartic.
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As far as your concern for if and when I release your own statements to those around you, I've got it covered, I appreciate your worry though.
Your welcome. Just wanted you to be sure you are making the right choice. I am not aware of all the internet laws and those involving slander, but I believe psy has been through this that is why I suggested him.
Before you start sending info to his colleagues and family you should be comfortable that you are not personally liable. Out of courtesy (and as a minimum) you should make Ginger/Psy aware when you send it out so they can have the heads up that they may be contacted.
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No need to worry John, I've looked into everything and I've got it covered. I'm not actually making any comments about you, I'm simply informing others around you of comments you yourself have made. I suppose you could try and sue yourself for libel, but there's not much else you could do. Since you're not garrunteed any expectation of privacy, and since you released all the details on your own, there's really nothing for me to be concerned about.
Now, we're all still waiting for you to either back up your claim or admit you lied. Do one or the other quickly John.
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No need to worry John, I've looked into everything and I've got it covered. I'm not actually making any comments about you, I'm simply informing others around you of comments you yourself have made. I suppose you could try and sue yourself for libel, but there's not much else you could do. Since you're not garrunteed any expectation of privacy, and since you released all the details on your own, there's really nothing for me to be concerned about.
Now, we're all still waiting for you to either back up your claim or admit you lied. Do one or the other quickly John.
You have received my final answer, Bruce. You will not blackmail me into lying for you.
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I take no issue with you believing your own nonsense John. Now back it up. Back up your claims John, for once.
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I take no issue with you believing your own nonsense John. Now back it up. Back up your claims John, for once.
My answer is final. Lets move on.
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My answer is final. Lets move on.
No John, you are going to be held accountable whether you like it or not. Now you will either provide evidence for your claim, or you will admit that you have none and you made it up. If your next post isn't one of these two things my emails to your family friends and coworkers start going out.
No more of your games Johnny, you aren't the victim, no one is asking you to lie. You are simply being forced to be accountable. Stop crying, wipe the snot off your face and man up.
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My answer is final. Lets move on.
No John, you are going to be held accountable whether you like it or not. Now you will either provide evidence for your claim, or you will admit that you have none and you made it up. If your next post isn't one of these two things my emails to your family friends and coworkers start going out.
No more of your games Johnny, you aren't the victim, no one is asking you to lie. You are simply being forced to be accountable. Stop crying, wipe the snot off your face and man up.
Do what you have to do, lets move on. You are confusing reality with your fantasy world, Bruce. Just be a man and send the emails and stop threatening to do it. Geeeesh you are like a little kid.... just send the emails, no one really cares if you haven't noticed.
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So you can't back it up, but you have too much pride to admit you lied and were wrong.
Fair enough. I'm off to run some errands, the emails will start going out when I get back. I think I'll start with this Max. I mean now that he has his car registered and it's up and running he can drive up to 'see' you and you can explain to his face exactly why you denied that his dead brother ever existed and why you ridiculed and attacked his fellow abuse survivors. Pretty sick stuff John.
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So you can't back it up, but you have too much pride to admit you lied and were wrong.
Actually, it is you that is lying. You cant bluff everyone here, Bruce. For once stop all the talk and put your money where your mouth is and send the emails. You cant blackmail me into lying, you should have known better.
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Looks like the money's there. Here's what I just sent to your son Max:
Max,
Check out www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com) . There you'll find a poster who claims to be a John Reuben posting under the name 'TheWho' and 'Whooter'. This poster routinely attacks and belittles those who were abused at the hands of theraputic boarding schools. He routinely claims that any kids who were abused are either lying, or deserved it. He also denies ever having a son, and pretends to have a daughter instead. He has repeatedly made fun of your brother who committed suicide. Just thought you should know. Let me know if you have any questions or need any more information. I've included some of his more blatent and horrible postings so you can verify the information for yourself.
Robert Bruce
Attachment included
Enjoy the fall out John. The longer you delay backing up your claims, the more people I send this information out to.
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Its a known fact, Bruce. It has been stated several times on this forum and at one point you admitted it yourself. You attended for less than a month. If I retracted it I would be lying to the readers.
Then prove it John. If it's really as common place as you claim, you should have no trouble finding an instance of me corroborating your claim. It's time to put your money where your mouth is, or back away quietly.
No back peddling, you are far too fixated on sexual stuff, this is a fact. I think anyone who has watched you post would agree that you do not engage in any honest conversation. Rather you confront people and ask question after question without answering any yourself. You avoid interacting and sharing your experiences with the posters while at the same time trying to force them to answer your questions and then making fun of their answers......Then if someone makes an off cuff comment you start crying to the admins.
I think you do this because you have no real experience being in a program since you barely got past orientation. So you contribute by ridiculing others.
No generalizations John, specifics. Provide the post that proves your specific claim. Put up or shut up John, the clock is ticking.
Robert, STFU you thirty day wonder, who molested himself because he was so frustrated, YA WANKA BASTARD.
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Looks like the money's there. Here's what I just sent to your son Max:
Max,
Check out http://www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com) . There you'll find a poster who claims to be a John Reuben posting under the name 'TheWho' and 'Whooter'. This poster routinely attacks and belittles those who were abused at the hands of theraputic boarding schools. He routinely claims that any kids who were abused are either lying, or deserved it. He also denies ever having a son, and pretends to have a daughter instead. He has repeatedly made fun of your brother who committed suicide. Just thought you should know. Let me know if you have any questions or need any more information. I've included some of his more blatent and horrible postings so you can verify the information for yourself.
Robert Bruce
Attachment included
Enjoy the fall out John. The longer you delay backing up your claims, the more people I send this information out to.
What a big man you are and what a sad person you must be to want to hurt a kid who lost his brother to suicide and his mother just to get back at someone you dont even know on the internet. I could have said fellow survivor but if you had spent time in a program you wouldnt have just done what you did for the sake of bringing on more pain for him. You just proved my point that you never spent more than a few weeks at HLA or you would have had more compassion for him.
Anyone reading here will very quickly see that it is yourself and DJ who have been painting me as this Reuben guy, not myself. Your intents were purely hurtful to him.
You are a bottom feeder along with Pile of Dead kids, Joel, Niles and Dysfunction Junction who find enjoyment in exposing people's info on-line.
I will no longer respond to you and will no longer continue to contribute to your sickness.
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Rob, I seriously hope to hell you didn't actually send that email.
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You know John, it's probably because I stayed in HLA for right around a year that I am willing to do this and much more. If I'd been in for as little time as you lied and claimed had been the case, I'd probably be more merciful to child abusers like yourself.
Everyone on here can see what a coward and how stupid you are.
I offered you multiple chances to provide evidence to support your claim or to retract it and all you can do is cry, 'WAAAHHHH, I won't lie for you Bruce!!!'. Everyone can see no one has asked you to lie, it's blantently obvious that in reality it is you who lied. You have no evidence to back up your claims, but you're far too arrogant to admit that you were wrong. So much so that you're willing to damage the relationship with your son to avoid admitting you're wrong. Well I hope you're willing to sacrifice the relationships with your co workers as well, because they're next on the list. You can either provide proof for your claim, admit you lied, or do nothing and I'll continue to expose to you all the people you claim to care about.
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What the heck is it with people who post here? What gets them so angry and obsessed that they are willing to blackmail people, and threaten people just because they hold differing opinions on the troubled teen industry? This is one of your own survivors sending creepy letters to brothers of suicide victims, and harassing a family who is very likely NOT whooter's. Just more collateral damage in your quest to end abusive programs? Here's some free advice. Arguing with Whooter on a discussion forum isn't saving any kids from programs. Assuming you know the identity of a poster here usually means you have got it wrong, and are making a fool of yourself. What is it about fornits that attracts these type of obsessive, and obviously unstable posters who feel the need to threaten, bully and manipulate rather than have a conversation, as most people do?
This is another example of everything that is wrong with fornits. Assumptions, mythology, conspiracy theories, blackmail and threats. That sort of counters the mantra "open free for all", but hey maybe people won't notice and continue to come here for advice, and get their own dose of what fornits thinks of people who don't march in lockstep with the mythology here. This sort of behavior is so immature, and destructive to this forum I'm surprised more of the "in crowd", people who participate in the group think here, don't stand against it. But this sort of behavior seems to be encouraged, as long as the target is hated enough, and we all know Whooter matches that description. In the real world, a parent who is grateful for their kid being at a program is not uncommon at all. Whooter even makes the distinction between good and bad programs. But that's not enough for people here, they want to shut him up completely. Fornits is only interested in shutting out reality, so they can create their own version of reality here. Unfortunately for Whooter, his opinions contrast with the group think mythology cultivated so diligently on this forum by the faithful , and so he is reviled.
When there is an open free for all discussion on the troubled teen industry, shouldn't people expect all types of opinions on the matter? Then why is fornits mostly populated by a gang of extremists who tout the same mythology to the word? Something isn't right on fornits when there is so much obsession on destroying people's real lives simply for opinions they hold and express on a forum supposedly open to them. There is a reason fornits is so slow and people don't post here, and we just witnessed, once again, that very reason. Say the wrong thing and the cult faithful will stop at nothing to shut you up, even if it means hurting innocent people along the way. What's truly disturbing is the people who believe in the conspiracy theories see nothing wrong with their behavior, they are true believers. Watching fornits condense from a forum of many varying opinions into a angry, group thinking, cult has been interesting to watch, and it's only getting worse.
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Everyone here please remember that Maximillian/SUCK IT was caught red handed blackmailing himself here on Fornits. Never ever forget this: Maximillian is still SUCK IT. He has alot of nerve to comment about blackmail after the stunt he got caught at. Wow, what an ass!
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That thread was a tongue in cheek, satirical protest of exactly this sort of behavior. Is it any surprise it was so quickly believed? It didn't take long for the blood thirsty cult mob here to start demanding my destruction. Most people with some level of intelligence saw that thread for what it was, and others played along. But with that thread, no information was outed, it was just a joke like DJ so often posts, as we know now that his posts have been linked to his name. So after spending your hard earned hatred condemning me, don't forget to condemn DJ as well, to remain free any whiff of hypocrisy on your part.
Here is one of your own "survivors" sending disturbing emails to family members of victim of suicide, all because people have constructed an outlandish and absurd conspiracy theory that Whooter is this John guy. Here is this "survivor" threatening to out Whooter to his supposed family, and co workers for his posts here. Kind of eerily similar to my satire thread, don't you agree? That's what satire is, for the people who understand it. But back to this thread. I didn't hurt anybody. This "survivor" is in the process of getting an innocent family involved with fornits, and sending them strange emails about their dead relatives. But wait, I am the ass? It is me who is in the wrong here? This backwards analysis can only occur in the mind of a devoted cultee of the mythology of fornits, group think till the end, facts be damned. You people should all be ashamed of yourselves for tolerating this sort of behavior. But continue to admonish myself and Whooter, I'm sure it makes you feel better about your own disgusting actions.
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Everyone here please remember that Maximillian/SUCK IT was caught red handed blackmailing himself here on Fornits. Never ever forget this: Maximillian is still SUCK IT. He has alot of nerve to comment about blackmail after the stunt he got caught at. Wow, what an ass!
Shaggy, its ironic that by turning a blind eye to what is going on with this survivors family and instead taking aim at Maximillian you have just proved his point. You , also, tolerate this behavior by your silence.
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Max
You should have majored in theater.
You are definitely suffering from
POST DRAMATIC STRESS SYNDROME
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Robert Bruce do you and Whooter agree with moving this thread to the drama box? There are other threads viewtopic.php?f=48&t=29342 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=29342) to debate this topic. Whooter, FWIW, I don't agree with RB treatment towards you.
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The problem here is Rob didn't take action against the whooter. He took action that is going to affect some poor schlep if he opens that email. Should the whooter be this John Reuben character, which I doubt he is, the net affect that this email will have against him is ZERO.
Let me repeat this for you who can't read..
ZERO
One more time for the idiots in the back row..
ZERO
The whooter evades, evades, evades, what makes you think he's going to give a shit about what this person thinks?
That is if he's John Reuben.
Fucking hell people, it is one thing to asshole each other on a forum, but another thing entirely to pull stunts like this. Trust me on this one RB, this comes from a very painful personal experience in this sort of thing on my own part, you are going to end up regretting this.
At least I hope you do, because it is seriously a dickhole move.
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Not a peep from the admin. This is an admin who gets upset that I post satirical threads about being blackmailed, claiming it never happens here, and accusing me of shaking the very foundation of this forum for making up such ideas. Then here is a real fornits "survivor" making the exact same threats I used in my satire thread, and silence from this same admin. No saying "you should probably shouldn't do that" or "this hurts the credibility of this forum", just silence. This is what people are talking about when they say fornits has a double standard on what is acceptable behavior. It depends on two things. Who is doing it, and who they are targeting, and that's it. Since this is an acceptable target, and a generally accepted conspiracy theory (even though its obviously incorrect to us people with brains) it gets the tacit approval of the admins here. Good job for the people who spoke out against it, you might save this forum from complete ruin just yet.
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Not a peep from the admin. This is an admin who gets upset that I post satirical threads about being blackmailed, claiming it never happens here, and accusing me of shaking the very foundation of this forum for making up such ideas. Then here is a real fornits "survivor" making the exact same threats I used in my satire thread, and silence from this same admin. No saying "you should probably shouldn't do that" or "this hurts the credibility of this forum", just silence. This is what people are talking about when they say fornits has a double standard on what is acceptable behavior. It depends on two things. Who is doing it, and who they are targeting, and that's it. Since this is an acceptable target, and a generally accepted conspiracy theory (even though its obviously incorrect to us people with brains) it gets the tacit approval of the admins here. Good job for the people who spoke out against it, you might save this forum from complete ruin just yet.
It isn't his or her job to say that sort of shit when it goes down in open free for all.
Learn the forums first dumbass.
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It amazes me how much of a double standard exists here on fornits and how many people refuse to acknowledge that it even exists. I have mentioned this to others here and tried to point it out but all I get back is resentment and hatred. I understand how I am viewed here on fornits and not many people are going to side with me. But many here claim to really care about each other but these actions tell a different story.. But imagine for a minute that the situation were reversed and I was threatening a survivor and saying:
“Okay, you think I am bluffing. I have an email right here ready to go to your boss that says you have been bad mouthing him on fornits and making fun of your sister who committed suicide. I have also cc’d a few other family members.” So tell me are you going to retract that statement that says you were abused at Rocky Mountain Academy or should I just release these statements to your family, friend and employer. so heres the deal you have ten minutes...... Either retract the statement that you were abused or I will release the statement to your family and employer… your choice.
So how do you think people would react to this here on fornits? Would we get silence from Samara and others like we typically do? .. or a few “that’s not cool”?… or “I don’t side with what Whooter is doing”? Or would we get swamped with posts asking for me to be banned? Saying I was a disgusting human being.
Just think about it is all I ask. I watch every day and see that you live day and night with a double standard and you dont even realize it.
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It amazes me how much of a double standard exists here on fornits and how many people refuse to acknowledge that it even exists. I have mentioned this to others here and tried to point it out but all I get back is resentment and hatred. I understand how I am viewed here on fornits and not many people are going to side with me. But many here claim to really care about each other but these actions tell a different story.. But imagine for a minute that the situation were reversed and I was threatening a survivor and saying:
“Okay, you think I am bluffing. I have an email right here ready to go to your boss that says you have been bad mouthing him on fornits and making fun of your sister who committed suicide. I have also cc’d a few other family members.” So tell me are you going to retract that statement that says you were abused at Rocky Mountain Academy or should I just release these statements to your family, friend and employer. so heres the deal you have ten minutes...... Either retract the statement that you were abused or I will release the statement to your family and employer… your choice.
So how do you think people would react to this here on fornits? Would we get silence from Samara and others like we typically do? .. or a few “that’s not cool”?… or “I don’t side with what Whooter is doing”? Or would we get swamped with posts asking for me to be banned? Saying I was a disgusting human being.
Just think about it is all I ask. I watch every day and see that you live day and night with a double standard and you dont even realize it.
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So True, So True.
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Looks like the money's there. Here's what I just sent to your son Max:
Max,
Check out http://www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com) . There you'll find a poster who claims to be a John Reuben posting under the name 'TheWho' and 'Whooter'. This poster routinely attacks and belittles those who were abused at the hands of theraputic boarding schools. He routinely claims that any kids who were abused are either lying, or deserved it. He also denies ever having a son, and pretends to have a daughter instead. He has repeatedly made fun of your brother who committed suicide. Just thought you should know. Let me know if you have any questions or need any more information. I've included some of his more blatent and horrible postings so you can verify the information for yourself.
Robert Bruce
Attachment included
Enjoy the fall out John. The longer you delay backing up your claims, the more people I send this information out to.
Well it's about time somebody other than me, Gookin, and Proxied started the ownaj parade. Let's hope there's some life ruination involved. (The thing about John Reuben is that even if he's not Whooter, he still has it coming.)
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Looks like the money's there. Here's what I just sent to your son Max:
Max,
Check out http://www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com) . There you'll find a poster who claims to be a John Reuben posting under the name 'TheWho' and 'Whooter'. This poster routinely attacks and belittles those who were abused at the hands of theraputic boarding schools. He routinely claims that any kids who were abused are either lying, or deserved it. He also denies ever having a son, and pretends to have a daughter instead. He has repeatedly made fun of your brother who committed suicide. Just thought you should know. Let me know if you have any questions or need any more information. I've included some of his more blatent and horrible postings so you can verify the information for yourself.
Robert Bruce
Attachment included
Enjoy the fall out John. The longer you delay backing up your claims, the more people I send this information out to.
Well it's about time somebody other than me, Gookin, and Proxied started the ownaj parade. Let's hope there's some life ruination involved. (The thing about John Reuben is that even if he's not Whooter, he still has it coming.)
and you don't you fucking warped piece of shit.
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Looks like the money's there. Here's what I just sent to your son Max:
Max,
Check out http://www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com) . There you'll find a poster who claims to be a John Reuben posting under the name 'TheWho' and 'Whooter'. This poster routinely attacks and belittles those who were abused at the hands of theraputic boarding schools. He routinely claims that any kids who were abused are either lying, or deserved it. He also denies ever having a son, and pretends to have a daughter instead. He has repeatedly made fun of your brother who committed suicide. Just thought you should know. Let me know if you have any questions or need any more information. I've included some of his more blatent and horrible postings so you can verify the information for yourself.
Robert Bruce
Attachment included
Enjoy the fall out John. The longer you delay backing up your claims, the more people I send this information out to.
Well it's about time somebody other than me, Gookin, and Proxied started the ownaj parade. Let's hope there's some life ruination involved. (The thing about John Reuben is that even if he's not Whooter, he still has it coming.)
and you don't you fucking warped piece of shit.
Pile, you know that one gimmick I told you about with the phone company? I'm thinking that would be a good one for Rueby. I mean you sorta have to now that Danny is all going aggressive on you and shit.
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Looks like the money's there. Here's what I just sent to your son Max:
Max,
Check out http://www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com) . There you'll find a poster who claims to be a John Reuben posting under the name 'TheWho' and 'Whooter'. This poster routinely attacks and belittles those who were abused at the hands of theraputic boarding schools. He routinely claims that any kids who were abused are either lying, or deserved it. He also denies ever having a son, and pretends to have a daughter instead. He has repeatedly made fun of your brother who committed suicide. Just thought you should know. Let me know if you have any questions or need any more information. I've included some of his more blatent and horrible postings so you can verify the information for yourself.
Robert Bruce
Attachment included
Enjoy the fall out John. The longer you delay backing up your claims, the more people I send this information out to.
Well it's about time somebody other than me, Gookin, and Proxied started the ownaj parade. Let's hope there's some life ruination involved. (The thing about John Reuben is that even if he's not Whooter, he still has it coming.)
and you don't you fucking warped piece of shit.
Pile, you know that one gimmick I told you about with the phone company? I'm thinking that would be a good one for Rueby. I mean you sorta have to now that Danny is all going aggressive on you and shit.
See this does explain much to our audience about you Che, especially since you are a moderator. Why are you snuggling up to someone who purposely and willfully hurt a 15 year old girl. Now your willing to hurt or degrade another member.
Your a moderator here, Che, why do you not act like your one.
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Che: On it. Not because of anything he's said towards me, but because he still can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're".
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Truth, do it. You got my backing. Unleash the hounds so to speak.
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It amazes me how much of a double standard exists here on fornits and how many people refuse to acknowledge that it even exists. I have mentioned this to others here and tried to point it out but all I get back is resentment and hatred. I understand how I am viewed here on fornits and not many people are going to side with me. But many here claim to really care about each other but these actions tell a different story.. But imagine for a minute that the situation were reversed and I was threatening a survivor and saying:
“Okay, you think I am bluffing. I have an email right here ready to go to your boss that says you have been bad mouthing him on fornits and making fun of your sister who committed suicide. I have also cc’d a few other family members.” So tell me are you going to retract that statement that says you were abused at Rocky Mountain Academy or should I just release these statements to your family, friend and employer. so heres the deal you have ten minutes...... Either retract the statement that you were abused or I will release the statement to your family and employer… your choice.
So how do you think people would react to this here on fornits? Would we get silence from Samara and others like we typically do? .. or a few “that’s not cool”?… or “I don’t side with what Whooter is doing”? Or would we get swamped with posts asking for me to be banned? Saying I was a disgusting human being.
Just think about it is all I ask. I watch every day and see that you live day and night with a double standard and you dont even realize it.
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Stop your whining you stupid little cry baby. You and your followers can paint this as an attempt to stifle your differing opinion all you want, but anyone with half a brain (obviously doesnt include you or friends) can see that it isnt that at all. Your claims werent based on your own experiences, or even your own opinion. You stated things about me that you claimed to be facts, you attempted to blackmail me in an effort to gain support for your positions, and were too stupid to realize I didn't care what you had, because I knew it was nothing. You later released the information yourself anyway anonymously and then later cited yourself as a source. Now all I'm asking you to do is either back up your claims or admit that you lied. You don't seem capable of ding either. For that reason the emails will continue to be sent out.
Before you or any of your mindless followers get your panties in too much of a twist over this, keep in mind you have attempted this exact thing long before anyone, including me ever did it to you. The only difference is that you did demand I lie for you, I'm just asking to you to tell the truth one way or another. So if you think my actions are reprehensible, what does that say about you John?
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So wait, is this a real blackmailing or a fake one? I want to set my fornits outrage meter to the right setting.
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I dont know that I would call it blackmailing. Rather I'm simply holding John accountable for his actions. He is not as he claims, being told to lie about something, or as you claimed being forced into silence. Again, this is no different then how we were treated in the programs you and he readily support.
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DRAMA BOX this bitch...
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DRAMA BOX this bitch...
Yes sir.