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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Evil Step Monster Lashes Out
« on: April 15, 2009, 09:01:18 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "BuzzKill"
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buzz, how many seminars and parental support groups did you attend? can you answer?

Well, it depends. Do you count the BBS? That was basically a heavily monitored and censored forum for the WWASP program parents which could be said to function like a internet support group.  I used it daily until they kicked me off.  I was booked for the Discovery seminar, but didn't attend. When I got the rules, I figured out what it was, and I wanted no part of it.  

But if you are looking for a program parent's account of the experience you can look here:
http://www.nospank.net/bean.htm

I do think it important to point out that as disturbing and intense as the Parent version is, what they put the kids through is much more so. They admit this, and make a joke of it.

Oh my goodness, I dont think you noticed how dated your information is. That program closed down years or decades ago.  You have anything in this century?  and using "nospank" as a refernce on top of it all.  Those people consider parents spanking their own kids as abuse, I would be careful, buzzkill, of who you listen to.  They are a fringe group trying to reach into peoples homes and tell families how to  raise their kids.  Would you want someone coming into your home and telling you how to raise your kids?

lol. You are a pathological liar or an ignoramus. Both probably. TB, the facility in question, only OPENED one decade ago. It closed earlier this year or late last year

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:uPz ... clnk&gl=us.

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CAN ~ Collective Action Network / Re: Message from Dianne Carter
« on: April 15, 2009, 08:33:26 PM »
Thank you Femanon. It would be fantastic if the young lady could live with you...Christ.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Buzzkill and WWASP
« on: April 15, 2009, 08:30:36 PM »
Quote from: "BuzzKill"
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buzz, how many seminars and parental support groups did you attend? can you answer?

Well, it depends. Do you count the BBS? That was basically a heavily monitored and censored forum for the WWASP program parents which could be said to function like a internet support group.  I used it daily until they kicked me off.  I was booked for the Discovery seminar, but didn't attend. When I got the rules, I figured out what it was, and I wanted no part of it.  

But if you are looking for a program parent's account of the experience you can look here:
http://www.nospank.net/bean.htm

I do think it important to point out that as disturbing and intense as the Parent version is, what they put the kids through is much more so. They admit this, and make a joke of it.

Hi, I didn't want to derail the other topic, as sick as it is, but I'd like to undestand WWASP from the parent's perspective, as best i can.

So, it seems there are various support groups, an 'in person' one, an internet one, the BBS and the seminars?

What does BBS stand for?
I am trying to understand how Diane and Micheal Carter came to think it "normal" to verbally abuse their kid, to the point their willing to do it publicly in a way it will be publicly documented.

Is that sort of thing and outlook encouraged at the "BBS"?

Program literature?


How so?

thanks. Also, how did they make a joke about how much worse it was for the kids. Also, what was so bad about the rules? If you don't mind saying, as best you can.

BTW, i hope you are join that suit, if you are not part of it, already.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Evil Step Monster Lashes Out
« on: April 15, 2009, 08:14:37 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Can't even post under your own name anymore, can you cunt? Nice try pretending to be anonymous!

End this farce. Throw her out. And then Femanon or some other Fornits member will be by to pick her up and you can stop pretending to be a substitute mother.

I agree, this anon is Diane Carter. Either way, the things this woman has written......Let's just say they are quite revealing
Join this suit, kaite. The fear of it has certainly stirred the wwaspnest, if these posters aren't all the distrubed, child abusing Diane Carter, Ohio.
ttp://www.turleylaw.com/
Placement in isolation for long periods of time, and at times, including being
locked in small boxes and cages, and locked up in basements, and forced to
assume distorted and painful physical positions for long periods of time;
b. Unsanitary living conditions;
c. Denial of adequate food;
d. Denial of proper medical and dental care and treatment;
e. Denial of an even minimally sufficient education;
f. Exposure to extreme (hot and cold) temperatures for long periods of time;
g. Forced physical exercise beyond their physical capacity;
h. Kicked, beaten, thrown and slammed to the ground;
i. Bound and tied by hands and/or feet;
j. Chained and locked in dog cages;
k. Forced to lie in, or wear, urine and feces as one method of punishment;
l. Forced to clean and scrub toilets and floors with their toothbrush and then use the
toothbrush afterwards;
Forced to sleep on cold concrete floors, boxspring, or plywood used as a bed with
no bedding or linens or with just a tattered and torn sleeping bag;
n. Forced to carry heavy bags of sand around their neck or logs throughout the day
over many days;
o. Forced to eat their own vomit;
p. Sexual abuse, which included forced sexual relations and acts of fondling and
masturbation performed on them;
q. Emotional abuse by subjecting student Plaintiffs to near-total parental and societal
isolation. Personal visits, correspondence, and telephone calls were either
forbidden or discouraged;
r. Because of the near-total isolation from the outside world and lack of education,
many student Plaintiffs were totally unequipped to enter outside society;
s. Forced to work many hours a day, at an age below the applicable minimum age
requirements of the child labor laws of the jurisdictions in which the schools are
located, and without compensation for shoveling manure, house construction,
hauling, landscaping, kitchen work, farm work, and moving bricks;
t. Threatened severe punishment, including death, if they told anyone of their
abuses and poor living conditions;
u. Confiscated and/or kept students’ U.S. mail;
v. Deprived from using the toilet, and as a result, urinated or defecated on
themselves;
w. Verbally abused by lying that their parents knew what was happening to them and
were supportive of it all;
x. Subjected to buddy system where older students were allowed to physically,
mentally, and sexually abuse younger students and manage them as part of a
“cleansing” process;
y. Deprived of sleep;
z. Forced to wear the same, unwashed clothes for weeks at a time;
aa. Denied any religious affiliation, except for the Mormon faith;
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bb. Forced to eat raw or rotten food;
cc. Poked and prodded with various objects while being strip searched;
dd. Forced to write false confession letters to parents to justify being sent to the
WWASPS school;
Student Plaintiffs repeatedly witnessed other children being kicked, hit, slammed, beaten,
thrown to the ground, and humiliated by teachers, supervisors, and/or staff.
5. Defendants violated student Plaintiffs’ human rights when Defendants used isolation as a
form of punishment.
6. Defendants often conspired with a parent or guardian to kidnap or take away by force the
child from another parent with equal or superior custody.
7. Defendants conspired with parents to implemented an “Exit Plan,” which had the effect
of compelling the student to remain at the schools past the student’s 18th birthday, despite torture and
inhumane conditions.
8. At all time relevant, Defendants did not disclose to the parents the physical, emotional,
mental, and/or sexual abuse to which their children were subjected at their facilities, and conspired, even
to this day, to prevent them from discovering such abuse.

9. In addition to the foregoing facts, Plaintiffs incorporate by reference into this Complaint
each of Plaintiffs’ statement of facts, which statement of facts sets forth the specific circumstance and
occurrences relating to transactions and treatment of Plaintiffs by the Defendants. By agreement,
Plaintiffs’ statement of facts are being provided to defense counsel.
WWASPS, through their schools, owed the minor student Plaintiffs, who were entrusted
to its care, the highest duty of trust and confidence and was required to act in their best interest. The
schools’ actions and inactions, described herein, violated that relationship when they failed to act with
the highest degree of trust and confidence to protect the student Plaintiffs from physical, emotional,
mental, and sexual abuse.

2. As minors, unable to care for or make decisions for themselves, and entrusted in the care
of the schools operated by Defendants, student Plaintiffs were owed a fiduciary duty by each of the
individual entities and by all of the Defendants. By failing to take steps to prevent, detect, and minimize
the harm from the incidents of abuse suffered by student Plaintiffs, the Defendants breached their
fiduciary duty to student Plaintiffs.

1. WWASPS has acted in concert with the other Defendants in a pattern and practice to
fraudulently conceal the extent and nature of the physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse
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occurring at its boarding schools, as well as the harmful effects of that abuse, continuing through the
present day. Defendants have also acted in concert to fraudulently conceal the fact that Defendants
engaged in a pattern and practice of stealing the value of student Plaintiffs’ labor, forcing them to work
several hours per day, for the duration of their attendance at the boarding schools without any
compensation whatsoever, as well as the value to student Plaintiffs of even a minimally sufficient
education.

2. All Defendants herein entered into a civil conspiracy to act in concert, accompanied by a
meeting of the minds regarding concerted action, the purposes of which were to suppress and minimize
public knowledge of the rampant physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse of minor children in the
boarding schools by teachers, supervisors, and staff, and to take a uniform position and approach to the
handling of reports of abuse.

3. This ongoing conspiracy and concert of 1. WWASPS has acted in concert with the other Defendants in a pattern and practice to
fraudulently conceal the extent and nature of the physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse
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occurring at its boarding schools, as well as the harmful effects of that abuse, continuing through the
present day. Defendants have also acted in concert to fraudulently conceal the fact that Defendants
engaged in a pattern and practice of stealing the value of student Plaintiffs’ labor, forcing them to work
several hours per day, for the duration of their attendance at the boarding schools without any
compensation whatsoever, as well as the value to student Plaintiffs of even a minimally sufficient
education.

2. All Defendants herein entered into a civil conspiracy to act in concert, accompanied by a
meeting of the minds regarding concerted action, the purposes of which were to suppress and minimize
public knowledge of the rampant physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse of minor children in the
boarding schools by teachers, supervisors, and staff, and to take a uniform position and approach to the
handling of reports of abuse.

3. This ongoing conspiracy and concert of 1. WWASPS has acted in concert with the other Defendants in a pattern and practice to
fraudulently conceal the extent and nature of the physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse
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20061213 Wood - Complaint 2nd Amended DKS.wpd
occurring at its boarding schools, as well as the harmful effects of that abuse, continuing through the
present day. Defendants have also acted in concert to fraudulently conceal the fact that Defendants
engaged in a pattern and practice of stealing the value of student Plaintiffs’ labor, forcing them to work
several hours per day, for the duration of their attendance at the boarding schools without any
compensation whatsoever, as well as the value to student Plaintiffs of even a minimally sufficient
education.

2. All Defendants herein entered into a civil conspiracy to act in concert, accompanied by a
meeting of the minds regarding concerted action, the purposes of which were to suppress and minimize
public knowledge of the rampant physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse of minor children in the
boarding schools by teachers, supervisors, and staff, and to take a uniform position and approach to the
handling of reports of abuse.

3. This ongoing conspiracy and concert of1. WWASPS has acted in concert with the other Defendants in a pattern and practice to
fraudulently conceal the extent and nature of the physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse commit such wrongful acts.
4. In absence of this conspiracy and concert of action, Defendants should have responded to
repeated notice of the abuse committed on the children by the teachers, supervisors, and staff and issued
general and specific warnings to the entire WWASPS community, particularly the parents of the
children in the boarding schools. Had a proper warning been issued, the physical, emotional, mental,
and sexual abuse would never have occurred. Moreover, the theft of the value of student Plaintiffs’
work, and deprivation of their educational opportunities, would not have occurred had a proper warning
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been issued. Thus, Defendants’ actions in furtherance of this conspiracy are a proximate caus
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Quote from: "Guest"
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“There was a time that if you spilled hot coffee in your lap you would say “Wow, that was clumsy of me”… now it is”That wasn’t my fault, I need to sue someone”. When I ever saw that person posting on fornits all ready equipped with lawyers names and phone numbers for kids to sue someone else for their own fuck-ups I almost died.”
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Good find, guest, thanks for hilighting it.  This is just all too true today.  The kids find they are entitled to afree ride in life and if things dont go well then it must be someone elses fault.  The shit is going to hit the fan when they have to start earning a living and supporting themselves.
Then they will say... "My life was a piece of cake when I was a kid,,,,  wish I was young again"

hey, who.

It will certainly hard for survivors of Cross Creek to make a living as they are deprived of education and opportunity to develop psychologically through constant restraint and terrorization. Free ride? How about WWASP stops running them over.

http://www.turleylaw.com/ That's one sick place Micheal and Diane Carter paid to torture their child. And they're some real sick people

http://www.turleylaw.com/
Placement in isolation for long periods of time, and at times, including being
locked in small boxes and cages, and locked up in basements, and forced to
assume distorted and painful physical positions for long periods of time;
b. Unsanitary living conditions;
c. Denial of adequate food;
d. Denial of proper medical and dental care and treatment;
e. Denial of an even minimally sufficient education;
f. Exposure to extreme (hot and cold) temperatures for long periods of time;
g. Forced physical exercise beyond their physical capacity;
h. Kicked, beaten, thrown and slammed to the ground;
i. Bound and tied by hands and/or feet;
j. Chained and locked in dog cages;
k. Forced to lie in, or wear, urine and feces as one method of punishment;
l. Forced to clean and scrub toilets and floors with their toothbrush and then use the
toothbrush afterwards;
Forced to sleep on cold concrete floors, boxspring, or plywood used as a bed with
no bedding or linens or with just a tattered and torn sleeping bag;
n. Forced to carry heavy bags of sand around their neck or logs throughout the day
over many days;
o. Forced to eat their own vomit;
p. Sexual abuse, which included forced sexual relations and acts of fondling and
masturbation performed on them;
q. Emotional abuse by subjecting student Plaintiffs to near-total parental and societal
isolation. Personal visits, correspondence, and telephone calls were either
forbidden or discouraged;
r. Because of the near-total isolation from the outside world and lack of education,
many student Plaintiffs were totally unequipped to enter outside society;
s. Forced to work many hours a day, at an age below the applicable minimum age
requirements of the child labor laws of the jurisdictions in which the schools are
located, and without compensation for shoveling manure, house construction,
hauling, landscaping, kitchen work, farm work, and moving bricks;
t. Threatened severe punishment, including death, if they told anyone of their
abuses and poor living conditions;
u. Confiscated and/or kept students’ U.S. mail;
v. Deprived from using the toilet, and as a result, urinated or defecated on
themselves;
w. Verbally abused by lying that their parents knew what was happening to them and
were supportive of it all;
x. Subjected to buddy system where older students were allowed to physically,
mentally, and sexually abuse younger students and manage them as part of a
“cleansing” process;
y. Deprived of sleep;
z. Forced to wear the same, unwashed clothes for weeks at a time;
aa. Denied any religious affiliation, except for the Mormon faith;
Case 2:06-cv-00708-TS-SA Document 88 Filed 12/19/2006 Page 19 of 46

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20061213 Wood - Complaint 2nd Amended DKS.wpd
bb. Forced to eat raw or rotten food;
cc. Poked and prodded with various objects while being strip searched;
dd. Forced to write false confession letters to parents to justify being sent to the
WWASPS school;
Student Plaintiffs repeatedly witnessed other children being kicked, hit, slammed, beaten,
thrown to the ground, and humiliated by teachers, supervisors, and/or staff.
5. Defendants violated student Plaintiffs’ human rights when Defendants used isolation as a
form of punishment.
6. Defendants often conspired with a parent or guardian to kidnap or take away by force the
child from another parent with equal or superior custody.
7. Defendants conspired with parents to implemented an “Exit Plan,” which had the effect
of compelling the student to remain at the schools past the student’s 18th birthday, despite torture and
inhumane conditions.
8. At all time relevant, Defendants did not disclose to the parents the physical, emotional,
mental, and/or sexual abuse to which their children were subjected at their facilities, and conspired, even
to this day, to prevent them from discovering such abuse.

9. In addition to the foregoing facts, Plaintiffs incorporate by reference into this Complaint
each of Plaintiffs’ statement of facts, which statement of facts sets forth the specific circumstance and
occurrences relating to transactions and treatment of Plaintiffs by the Defendants. By agreement,
Plaintiffs’ statement of facts are being provided to defense counsel.
WWASPS, through their schools, owed the minor student Plaintiffs, who were entrusted
to its care, the highest duty of trust and confidence and was required to act in their best interest. The
schools’ actions and inactions, described herein, violated that relationship when they failed to act with
the highest degree of trust and confidence to protect the student Plaintiffs from physical, emotional,
mental, and sexual abuse.

2. As minors, unable to care for or make decisions for themselves, and entrusted in the care
of the schools operated by Defendants, student Plaintiffs were owed a fiduciary duty by each of the
individual entities and by all of the Defendants. By failing to take steps to prevent, detect, and minimize
the harm from the incidents of abuse suffered by student Plaintiffs, the Defendants breached their
fiduciary duty to student Plaintiffs.

1. WWASPS has acted in concert with the other Defendants in a pattern and practice to
fraudulently conceal the extent and nature of the physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse
Case 2:06-cv-00708-TS-SA Document 88 Filed 12/19/2006 Page 21 of 46

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20061213 Wood - Complaint 2nd Amended DKS.wpd
occurring at its boarding schools, as well as the harmful effects of that abuse, continuing through the
present day. Defendants have also acted in concert to fraudulently conceal the fact that Defendants
engaged in a pattern and practice of stealing the value of student Plaintiffs’ labor, forcing them to work
several hours per day, for the duration of their attendance at the boarding schools without any
compensation whatsoever, as well as the value to student Plaintiffs of even a minimally sufficient
education.

2. All Defendants herein entered into a civil conspiracy to act in concert, accompanied by a
meeting of the minds regarding concerted action, the purposes of which were to suppress and minimize
public knowledge of the rampant physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse of minor children in the
boarding schools by teachers, supervisors, and staff, and to take a uniform position and approach to the
handling of reports of abuse.

3. This ongoing conspiracy and concert of 1. WWASPS has acted in concert with the other Defendants in a pattern and practice to
fraudulently conceal the extent and nature of the physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse
Case 2:06-cv-00708-TS-SA Document 88 Filed 12/19/2006 Page 21 of 46

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20061213 Wood - Complaint 2nd Amended DKS.wpd
occurring at its boarding schools, as well as the harmful effects of that abuse, continuing through the
present day. Defendants have also acted in concert to fraudulently conceal the fact that Defendants
engaged in a pattern and practice of stealing the value of student Plaintiffs’ labor, forcing them to work
several hours per day, for the duration of their attendance at the boarding schools without any
compensation whatsoever, as well as the value to student Plaintiffs of even a minimally sufficient
education.

2. All Defendants herein entered into a civil conspiracy to act in concert, accompanied by a
meeting of the minds regarding concerted action, the purposes of which were to suppress and minimize
public knowledge of the rampant physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse of minor children in the
boarding schools by teachers, supervisors, and staff, and to take a uniform position and approach to the
handling of reports of abuse.

3. This ongoing conspiracy and concert of 1. WWASPS has acted in concert with the other Defendants in a pattern and practice to
fraudulently conceal the extent and nature of the physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse
Case 2:06-cv-00708-TS-SA Document 88 Filed 12/19/2006 Page 21 of 46

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20061213 Wood - Complaint 2nd Amended DKS.wpd
occurring at its boarding schools, as well as the harmful effects of that abuse, continuing through the
present day. Defendants have also acted in concert to fraudulently conceal the fact that Defendants
engaged in a pattern and practice of stealing the value of student Plaintiffs’ labor, forcing them to work
several hours per day, for the duration of their attendance at the boarding schools without any
compensation whatsoever, as well as the value to student Plaintiffs of even a minimally sufficient
education.

2. All Defendants herein entered into a civil conspiracy to act in concert, accompanied by a
meeting of the minds regarding concerted action, the purposes of which were to suppress and minimize
public knowledge of the rampant physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse of minor children in the
boarding schools by teachers, supervisors, and staff, and to take a uniform position and approach to the
handling of reports of abuse.

3. This ongoing conspiracy and concert of1. WWASPS has acted in concert with the other Defendants in a pattern and practice to
fraudulently conceal the extent and nature of the physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse
Case 2:06-cv-00708-TS-SA Document 88 Filed 12/19/2006 Page 21 of 46.................................................................................................................

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Evil Step Monster Lashes Out
« on: April 15, 2009, 07:36:46 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Thanks for that post, Diane and Michael must think this place is nuts with all the posts and flaming lol.... welcome to fornits!!!  Even though we know Katie made your lives a living hell and tried to drive a wedge into the family we have to take Katies side.  Why because we did the same thing!!  We are the same animal.  We know Katie was abusive to everyone, but we just wont admit it.  Because if we did then we would have to admit that maybe we were responsible for the events that lead us to be placed into a program and in turn lead us to the lives we have today.
So dont take it personally we are just acting on a defence mechanism and hoping that katie joins our little club of hatred towards all creatures.


Wow...Micheal and Diane Carter have really instigated cult disiples to post in earnest. Or perhaps they are all Diane and Micheal and thewho?  Maybe these are members of WWASPs "parent support" group, in which "support: means particpating in, and encouraging the pscyhologicall torment of children.

Just so you guys know, children don't abuse their parents, they just don’t have the power necessary to do that. That term simply does not apply. Your self perception as “victims”  of your children which WWASP and various programs inculcate sucessfully in you, is quite disturbing.

This self-perception is apparently so intense that  believers have amassed here to psychologically abuse this 18 year old, who has been institutionalized for 3 years, ostensibly because of her grossly disabling mental illness, as a way of what? "Defending themselves"? To say nothing else, that's the behavior of some seriously emotionally and psychologically stunted "adults."

Do you people really think its acceptable for you middle aged parents to act toward an adolescent in this way? I don't even mean "unacceptable" in the moral sence, i mean do you understand how our social customs have developed so there is a taboo around that sort of behavior?  I think you are so disconected from reality that you don't understand that.

Please keep posting anonymously, and otherwise, Diane and Michael and WWASP supporters; you some records for public displays of malevolence and psychological disturbance, and each of your posts documents it.

All the better for the young lady's case should she press foward with it.

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Quote from: "Diane and Michael Carter (son of Carroll Joseph Carter, employee of Reynolds and Reynolds) of Dayton Ohio ABUSE their daughter via WWASP"
Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0"
Quote from: "katiesthoughts"
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Another solution could have been for Katie to lose some weight and quit cutting herself (maybe mix in some others colors other than black every other day) and that would have helped with the bullying and then show a little respect at home like her brothers did and all of this would have been avoided.
I dont think her brothers had a problem with the school system or home arrangements and put a lid on the drama. If they did they were smart enough not to get their asses sent away.Guest
 

 i think those are the only two people who wuld have the dexterity to go and say that. If you want to insult me do it somewhere in your own mind please i dont want to hear the bullshit on here thankyou very much. :blabla:  :lala:  :feedtrolls:  :fuckoff:

Doesn't this sound like Dianne? I recognize the attitude from her blog when talking about Katie. This woman is truly a vile creature,


Indeed, both Diane and Michael Carter (son of Carroll Joseph Carter, employee of Reynolds and Reynolds) of Dayton Ohio seem to be posting here as guests, insulting their own daughter.

From Micheal Carter’s  Blog alternatively titled, “Inside the mind of a cult manipulated, child abusing feind,”
“Years ago, if you spilt coffee in you lap, it was your fault. Now you are a victim and suing the restaurant who gave you the hot coffee. If you lift up a running lawn mower and try to trim a hedge with it and cut off your hand - you are a victim of the company who made it because they didn't tell you not to do it, an build in safe guards to prevent it.”

And from fornits thread:

“There was a time that if you spilled hot coffee in your lap you would say “Wow, that was clumsy of me”… now it is”That wasn’t my fault, I need to sue someone”. When I ever saw that person posting on fornits all ready equipped with lawyers names and phone numbers for kids to sue someone else for their own fuck-ups I almost died.”

Wonder which of the the many kind comments are about Katie are also theirs?

Diane and Micheal Carter are very disturbed people. Very disturbed. This sort of thing...it shocks me. It shocks any person. And it's saddening that law enforcement is deferent to political power players like Robert Lichfield that their psychotic rage is allowed to be expressed through criminal cruelty and torture with little or no consequnce.

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