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An open discussion about the troubled parent industry

Death Girl mentioned this film....it's really well done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R85eo2rA70
There's 9 parts and you can also see it at the film makers site.

Well, that's messed me up a bit. Tonight will be another insomnia night. Very disquieting. Thx Dethgurl.
METANOIA

I just came across the name Dr. Richard Gottlieb...it rings a bell but I can't remember why...I associate that name with a program...

Neither of the Gottliebs you mentioned sound familiar to me, but the link re: the CIA involved second of the two was interesting. Incidentally, though not a doctor, there was a Jeffrey Gottlieb on Staff at Élan. IDK, maybe that's why the name rang a bell?

Thx, Ursus. It’s unanimously decided then. You be the one to format for relay the PDF of the civil complaint against Silverado Academy. :deal:

KSLTV5 Video re: Eighteen Felony Charges filed against Glosson and Civil Abuse Case brought against Silverado Academy here

2 Logan County Residential Child Care Centers Shut Down
Kidz Ark Licenses Suspended In State, County Criminal Investigation
ABC7 News Colorado Written by Wayne Harrison, Web Editor POSTED: 3:16 pm MDT July 15, 2011

STERLING, Colo. -- State operating licenses for two Logan County residential child care centers for children had their licenses suspended Friday.

The Kidz Ark centers house a total 62 children, according to Liz McDonough, with the Colorado Department of Human Services.

By Friday afternoon, all but six of the children had been put in alternative care facilities. State Human Services staff will stay until the remaining children are removed.

A criminal investigation has also been launched into the facilities outside Sterling and at New Raymer, according to McDonough. She would not say what type of criminal investigation had been launched or what prompted the investigation but did say the Logan County sheriff is conducting the probe.

The New Raymer facilities is a ranch for boys, according to the Kidz Ark website.
The Kidz Ark Centers also had licenses for day treatment, McDonough said. The centers were notified Thursday that their licenses were going to be suspended.

"They cannot undertake any activity that a child care license is required," McDonough said.
A series of issues over the last year led to Friday's suspension, according to McDonough.
A hearing will be scheduled in the coming months, after Logan County Human Services and Sheriff's Department investigations are completed.

The Kidz Ark website describes the company as a therapeutic residential child care facility, specializing in the treatment of troubled children. Children being treated range in age from 10 to 18, according to the Kidz Ark website.
"We have specific qualifications and experiences which enable us to meet the needs of severely damaged children, including children with developmental disabilities," the website states. "The majority of all our kids have been violently abused or grossly neglected."

Southern Utah Boarding School Accused of Abuse Coverup

by Johnny Bonner, CN writer Kcsg Television
Published - 06/27/11 - 10:05 AM
 
(Salt Lake City, UT) - After a Southern Utah boarding school teacher sexually assaulted three students, he used bribes, threats and intimidations to conceal it, and administrators at the Silverado Academy protected him and told one of the boys not to talk, the teens' parents say.

Parents of the three "John Doe" students say defendant Silverado Academy in Panguitch, Utah, hired, fired and rehired Richard Glosson as a coach and athletic coordinator over a span of about 2 years.

The only defendant in the federal complaint is Silverado Academy LLC. (Complaint)pdf

Glosson, who had no formal training or post-high school education when he was hired by the academy prior to 2010, was fired several months after accepting a position "because of concerns that it had that he was being too close to the teenagers in the programs," according to the complaint.

But Silverado rehired Glosson "in late 2010 or early 2011," and "Glosson was allowed to have repeated access to and time with individual students privately, in multiple locations and settings, including students over whom he was not a coach and had no supervisory duties," according to the complaint.

It adds: "On multiple occasions, Mr. Glosson sexually abused numerous teenagers at the academy, including the minor plaintiffs, in Silverado's classrooms, Glosson's living quarters, and the students' living quarters, among other places."

Students at the academy are assigned to a cabin, and each cabin is assigned a set of "coaches," along with a therapist.

The parents claim Glosson bullied their children after the attacks. "Mr. Glosson used various means to discourage the students from saying anything about the abuse, including, but not limited to the threat of not recommending that a student be advanced in the program, bribery, physical force, intimidation, and deceit," the parents, who hail from Georgia, Nevada and Michigan, alledge.

The parents say that police visited the academy after Glosson reported that a minor, from Arizona, had contacted him on Facebook and threatened to go public about his sexual assaults.

But Silverado's management and police "took no action against Mr. Glosson and continued to allow him to work in close proximity to the teenagers in the program," according to the complaint.

It continues: "At least two of the incidents of sexual assault that Mr. Glosson committed against the minor plaintiffs were committed after law enforcement officials visited the academy to investigate Mr. Glosson's complaint.

"When John Doe 1 reported Mr. Glosson's sexual assault to the academy's management, he was told not to say anything to his parents about the assault, during his Father's Day call to them on June 19, 2011."

According to the complaint: "Silverado Academy LLC operates a clinical boarding school offering residential care for troubled teenagers between ages 13 and 18 in Garfield County, Utah," near Zion and Bryce Canyon National Parks. "The program costs in the range of $4,000 to $7,000 a month."

Students must enroll for at least 6 months, and "successful program completion occurs when a student has achieved all levels of the academy's 'TRUST' program and has spent time as a transition student", the complaint states.

According to the Silverado Academy website: "The academy is designed to integrate real world skills and enhance self-esteem though a combination of experiential therapy, stellar academics, and health relationships."

The plaintiffs demand punitive damages for emotional distress, negligent hiring and breach of fiduciary duties.

They are represented by Colin King of Dewsnup, King & Olsen.

Read more: KCSG Television - Southern Utah Boarding School Accused of Abuse Coverup
Edited: per Ursus’ request

Not to worry PODK, these children aren’t for sale.

And why make your own when there are ways to enjoy that while keeping the math at 1+1= nothing but fun and there are so many other factors like the kids who already exists who are in need of a home? The adoption fees are steep compared to the DIY option, but what I really don't get are those folks who pour money into the many thousands into fertility clinic pockets, when we’ve got 7,000,000,000.00 people and so many kids in need.

There are typically fees associated for processing adoptions. I don’t know what the generally accepted range for those are, so if these are excessive compared to the norm, maybe that’s what caused your alarm...IDK. I do know, that for the ones who aren’t born yet, the biological mother may request assistance with prenatal care costs etc. Unless there is something you noticed that I hadn’t, this just doesn’t seem like some kind of black market baby billboard –especially considering the case of a couple trying to place their expected child who has been diagnosed with a congenital brain malformation (DWS) lists fees of only 16,000.00. The 34,000.00 gender unknown healthy white baby fees (which the post indicates does not include travel and finalization costs) seems odd, especially compared to the fact that some of the mixed babies and some of the posts that acknowledge drug and alcohol use on the part of the birth mother during pregnancy don’t list fees. Still, while disreputable adoption facilitators do exist, the fees probably have more to do with legal and medical costs than a broker’s cut.

To the rest of you on this thread, I don’t really care if I come across as a humorless bitch when I say not a god damn thing about the sale of children is funny and your calloused indifference expressed on this thread at the expense of the very real plight of very real children is fucked up.
Children For Sale (Documentary About Child Prostitutes In Brazil)
http://www.invisiblechildren.com/
http://facts.randomhistory.com/human-tr ... facts.html

If this is an issue you don’t care about then fine, posting about remand/referral kickbacks is a genuine price on a kids head issue some or all of you might connect with or you know just keep idling the while exchanging quips about children as chattel.

Read:
Having read When The Body Says No Exploring The Stress-Disease Connection- by Gabor Maté lead me to…
In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close encounters with addiction- by Gabor Maté I highly recommend this and have posted as much at some lengthy detail in the a t pforum.

Other recent reading:    
Nomads of the Wind The Migration of the Monarch Butterfly and Other Wonders of the Butterfly World - by Ingo Arndt
More Butterfly fodder for the weightless lilt of being unburdened by the reality of humanity.
As per Frod’s recommendation, Charles Bukowski. I happened upon The Continual Condition in the remainders... doubting I have contracted it.

Re-read:
Zeitoun- David Eggars

Will be moving on to V.S Ramachadron’s The Tell-Tale Brain: A neuroscientists quest for what makes us human.