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Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on August 02, 2002, 01:24:00 PM
I was in the plymouth program from 87 till 89. Its a trip to see all this stuff about a place I forgot about so long ago I mean this shit is surreal. Now that my memory has been dusted off some Id really like to hear whats up from people I was in there with. I was there 1 month under 2 years so theres so many people if anyone knows people and there whereabouts please post it. Ill name some people off the top of my head. chris simms, peter gilmore,jerry trevathick, rob collins, tony smith, bill ritchie (kid rocks brother),joe mcnish(the fish), elizabeth vorhees, danado collela, nikki peterson, cypress lockett,erin henderson, chris fisher , nikki stevens,rich pauli ,lori werder, jeanie paulachelie,percy mealing, brian elum,tara gus, those two crazy ass italian brothers,mike bolger ,will bolger, well for the moment thats all I can tink off but theres awhole lot more if anyone has info please contact me at quddusism@hotmail , Oh I forgot my name is Quddus Maus. peace

[ This Message was edited by: quddusism on 2002-08-02 10:26 ]
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on August 04, 2002, 12:35:00 AM
I don't reqognize your name , but i was good friends with about half the names you mentioned. i graduated Dec.10,   1987.  my name is Joe pechette , Nick hoffman was my host bro , Will Bolger was the only cool oldcomer I had. ....
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on August 04, 2002, 09:14:00 AM
I remember nick hoffman, he was a skinny cat with like tripped out eyes. Will was cool when I got there he was staff. I remember when I came in he was in front of group I had no fucking clue what was going on, he was obviously running shit so I kept trying to get up to talk to him and bruce goins and rob collins kept trying to sit me down and shut me up. I was soooo pissed. you may have graduated or left before I got there or soon after. Man Im telling you its bugged out to actually remeber all this stuff I d really had forgot about all this shit till I , for some reason searched the net for Straight and what do you know theres a bunch of sites its truly the definition of "blast from the past"
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on August 04, 2002, 03:58:00 PM
I felt the same way.  At first I was totally excited to find old friends. People from your program are like no one else in the entire world.  But I've been one these sites for a little over a year and have only run into a couple people I hardly knew. It's pretty disappointing, but I will keep waiting , eventually everyone from Straight who owns a computer will get board enough to look up Straight one day.
  Also there alot of shit that you had to learn to live with these last 15 years that may  resurface and piss you off. Have fun. I try to avoid the politcal part of these sites. Mostly because I don't have enough anger or concern to deal with the irritation but others seem to have enough to go around so I don't feel guilt not doing my part. (lol)  I ran from MI. about 7 months into my 1 year after-care. I got freaked-out. I thought I was going to get sat in group. I've been I CA ever since. I was visiting my folks last week and I drove down AnnArbor Rd. and took a few picks of the building. I'll post em' on Don's site later. I was thinking that if you could put a sign in front of the old building with one of these web site addresses on it we would probable find a lot more old friends. I wonder if the body shop there would consider it if they knew the whole deal.
  Anyway , remember anymore names?...dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on August 04, 2002, 10:13:00 PM
at the moment icant think of any  names of people who wouldve been 5th phasers when i came in all though i can bring up faces you should name people you were in with itll probably help me remeber just like nick hoffman id forgot all about that cat. wasnt he from indiana or some shit like that? as far as being angry at straight i dont harbor bitter resentments towards the place, although we must admit the place was pretty fucked up. my two biggest issues with the place are              1: the way i was kicked out of society, and fired as staff for ridiculous shit .       2: i was there at a time when they were struggling financially and peoples programs started getting longer and longer including mine.                     having said that i think we live in a pretty spiritually bankrupt world and there is no ideal safehaven place . after straight i went to college and the school system is totally fucked,of course its abuse on a totally diffrent level than straight. my point is that instead of dwelling on shit  i try to squeze the gem out of the coal like the old saying goes "when life gives you lemons make lemonade" and believe me pal theres a whole bunch of lemonade to be made. i do believe in fighting injustice but some shit you just got to let slide and let go of. anyways im a get off my soap box. your idea is good im not sure how many people pass that place but im sure quite a few do from time to time and i guarantee they all look when they pass. my motives for coming to this site is the same as yours i would really like to find some people that i knew from there just to see how theyre doing and what theyre doing and of course to do some remienesing. please name some more people. peace
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on August 05, 2002, 03:40:00 PM
Nick was half black , half  Vietnamese , from Petoski MI. He drank 5 times before coming to Straight. Poor dude! Any way I've got an old "dime theropy" list from when I was on fifth and everyone on it was way newer than me. I'll dig it out and post all the names on it. See if it rings any bells.  Have you kept in touch with anyone from your time there?  John Hynes was there with you. He posts sometimes at the alumni site. Gotta roll...I'll post names later.....dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on August 06, 2002, 01:20:00 PM
Thats wierd its definetly not the same Nick Hoffman, however we had one on my program, I mean how many Nick Hoffmans could there be that went to Straight in the late 80s. Trippey. Yeah I know Jhon Hines. post some names . Ive been cruising this site and a couple others. it seems to be ,for the most part all the same people bumping into each other and I dont know a single one.Not many MI people out there. Hope someone comes along. peace
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on August 07, 2002, 07:23:00 PM
I hear ya.  I seem to have lost my 900 M.I.'s and all that stuff. I've got a whole gang of old friendship letters , permissions , C.O.C.'s , list's , I've even got my old "runner" badge. I'm totally looking for the stuff and will post more names when I find it.
  Some names I remember:  Jude Carpenter , Breeland , Paulsen , Curruthers , Green , Redge, more later...dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on August 08, 2002, 08:37:00 AM
oh man! yeah john breeland man that dude had a rough program he got started over a few tmes what a guy. I remember the Carruthers brothers they also had cousins in the program they were all from pickney.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on August 09, 2002, 01:43:00 PM
I've got a few friendship letters from that dude.  More names: Trombley , Orlando... One of my newc's was named Dave lacy. He was from So. CA. One day I chased the guy for 5 miles until I caught him. Then I told him I just wanted to see if I could catch him and let him go. Lucky bastard got pulled a few weeks later. About 3 years later I'm at a bro's house in Huntington beach CA , passin' "one" around...and who do you think I pass it on to? We hung out a few times , it was trippy....dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on August 19, 2002, 11:09:00 AM
Hey bro...you still around? Can you remember any more names? ...JOEY
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on August 28, 2002, 10:21:00 PM
quddusism, I emailed you about Plymouth Straight and I remember half the names you mentioned, I never realized until yesterday(I've been EXTREAMLY busy at work) that I remembered you because I saw you posted your real name.
I would like to keep in contact with you (and anyone else who is interested).
my email address [email protected]
thanks


[ This Message was edited by: ladyjerrico on 2002-08-28 19:23 ]
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2002, 10:37:00 AM
Whats up playa!?!Im back cant recall any more names at the moment. Ill keep checkn this site to see whats the deally.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2002, 05:57:00 PM
hey all,,sam shaw here i was about the second group to open michigan from cinci. thought id say hi,,you can e-mail me at [email protected]
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2002, 06:02:00 PM
hey all,,sam shaw here i was about the second group to open michigan from cinci. thought id say hi,,you can e-mail me at [email protected]
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2002, 12:18:00 AM
Whats up Sam you must have been with Carla Schupp, Jim Henderson and Andy Fletcher right?! To the lady who knows me(I think your a woman)are you sure you know me? Whats your name ? I tried to email you but got no response. To my dog, where ya at?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on September 05, 2002, 12:20:00 AM
Whats up Sam you must have been with Carla Schupp, Jim Henderson and Andy Fletcher right?! To the lady who knows me(I think your a woman)are you sure you know me? Whats your name ? I tried to email you but got no response. To my dog, where ya at?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on September 05, 2002, 12:20:00 AM
Whats up Sam you must have been with Carla Schupp, Jim Henderson and Andy Fletcher right?! To the lady who knows me(I think your a woman)are you sure you know me? Whats your name ? I tried to email you but got no response. To my dog, where ya at?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 05, 2002, 09:53:00 AM
Hey Queddusism, never got a reply from you. How have you been?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on September 06, 2002, 12:38:00 AM
Hey ladyj I e mailed you a few days ago, guess something happened.Ijust e mailed you again so if you dont get this one then sumtin funky is goin on!Im fine, I just moved back to Ann Arbor from Austin Tx. and getting settled back in, starting school again so its a pretty exciting time. Except Im not looking forward to these Mi. winters thats going to be a trip. Anyways e mail me back Im very curious to know who you are. To my dog, where ya at?!
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 06, 2002, 09:32:00 AM
hmm.. you are the 2nd person that has tried to email me through my address that I gave and I haven't recieved it. Let me give you my Yahoo one (I think my Outlook Express is messed up):
[email protected]

I would have replied to you by email, but I forget which one you could be reached at. I read my email every morning before going to work, so I should get anything in Yahoo you send.
From Texas to Michigan? wow.. that will get some taking used to in the winter, your right, I think we may have a mild winter this year, the past 3 haven't been all that bad and only 2 major storms the whole winter last year.
However, this is my favorite time of year in the fall.. the colors are absolutely beautiful and cool temps.
If you don't mind my asking, where are you attending collage?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on September 08, 2002, 03:23:00 PM
("To my dog, where ya at?" )
  You talkin 'bout me bro? I'm always here. Did you think of any more names? I never did find all my "straight stuff" But I'm buying and moving into a house next month and hope to find all that stuff in the move. And when I do , I will post my whole "dime theropy" list. I tried to locate people from that list and got about 10 of each name from a searce and only turned up one bro, Mike Peace. Dude came in the same day as me. Anyway hope all's good...2dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on September 08, 2002, 03:30:00 PM
Sam,
 Hey were you the dude who looks like Jim Morrison or the other Sam whose face I cannot place. When did you get out? Did you step? I remember A dude name Sam that was a grad. who stood behind group with cowboy boots. It was my insperation to graduate just so I could where those boots. What a jackass I was. lol...Whats up? ...Dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on September 10, 2002, 12:18:00 AM
Yeah Im talking to you, maybe you knew Andy Gould orBruce Goins, I cant really think of to many people that were on higher phases, oh yeah, how about Peter Gilmore. Ladyj I e mailed you at the new adderess still no answer, Im starting to think your blowing me off. To my dog I just thought of someone else, did you know John Devine?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 10, 2002, 09:55:00 AM
No, I'm not blowing you off, I haven't recieved anything. I don't know why, could be my filter on email is only allowing me to get certain email.
Like I said, try my Yahoo address.

[email protected]
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on September 11, 2002, 02:09:00 AM
Andy...now I know I know this person but can't see the face, help me out.  Bruce... Not sure. Peter had a sister and they were from Port Huron right? John Devine was one I definitly remember. I went to his house in E. Lansing on a group permission. He lived in a house that was unbelievable on the river and we bombed around on his wave runners and sped out in his Excalibur to check out the family yacht that had three staterooms. He was the richest person I ever met before moving to CA.  Wonder what ever happened to that dude???  ....Joey

[ This Message was edited by: 2dogs on 2002-09-10 23:18 ]
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 13, 2002, 08:53:00 AM
I heard of him, I believe he was on a higher phase when I was there in 1990. I don't remember if he copped out or graduated. I haven't heard anything about him.

If anyone remembers Mike Noe, just an update, my mom still talks to his family on occassion.
He was in collage and now is married with a child. I believe his wife had a son a year or so ago. He is doing great.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on September 13, 2002, 03:38:00 PM
Idont think I know Mike Noe. When Ilived in Ann Arbor, the first time, I used to see John Devine and we hung out quite a few times. He was just chilln in Ann Arbor. That was about 4 yrs ago. Im back in Ann Arbor so Ill probably run in to him if he is still out here. Andy Gould was a trip, he was a pretty cool dude, he was from Romeo, I think.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on September 13, 2002, 04:16:00 PM
Hey if you run into John , make sure you tell him Joey say's "hi".
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 15, 2002, 12:20:00 AM
I don't remember Andy Gould, could be before my incarceration.
I have co-workers who live in Ann Arbor and myself I go there on occassion with a few friends and my fiance.
That place seems like nothing ever closes, but I think its a great town and stuff you can't find anywhere else.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on September 21, 2002, 12:48:00 PM
Where ya'll at?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 25, 2002, 09:53:00 AM
If you mean on the computer, I'm posting! :smile: lol if you mean in life, I'm working at a great job now.. so not sure how to answer that question 2dogs :smile:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on September 27, 2002, 02:44:00 PM
I meant physically. Sometimes it's hard for me to stay interested in these forums where I don't know anyone from my own time in "hell". Especailly with all the politics. I understand , someone has to go after the "evil one's". I don't have a problem with that. I'm just more interested in hearing what happened to all "my" people. You& Cude and a couple others are my only links to the past there, so I'm just trying to keep this thing going.
 BTW I took some picctures of the building on AnnArbor Rd. a few months ago while in MI on vacation. Not sure if your interested to see em' or not. It's a body shop now but you can still see the old ghosts....2DOGS
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 28, 2002, 12:57:00 AM
It's been a while since I saw that building, but yes, last time I saw it about 3 years ago it was an auto body repair shop or something along those lines. I would be interested to see it.
Physically I'm fine, I am still sensitive to bright light, especially sunlight, (sound like the Gremlins.. lol) but seriously, I also have trouble seeing at night driving for some reason, so I follow the white line on the road on the right side and don't look at the headlights.
I am finding numerous grey hairs and I'm going to be 30 in November, but doing just fine other than that.. could be old age creeping up.. with all the crap I've been through in my life, at times I feel like I'm over 50!
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on September 29, 2002, 02:12:00 AM
Do you have light blue eyes?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on September 29, 2002, 06:47:00 AM
yo! Im here. Ive been busy with school,havent posted in a while.What do you mean where am I physically. I guess Outtashape.Oh 30 is just a number
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on October 01, 2002, 09:36:00 AM
Seems like we are all just a number according to the govenment.. lol. But where did my 20's go? :smile:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on October 15, 2002, 02:49:00 PM
The reason I asked about your eyes is because I was told that the lighter your eye color , the more light gets in at night and I can't hardly drive at night without sunglasses.  I know whatever. Talk to ya later....2Dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on October 15, 2002, 09:24:00 PM
I never heard of that being eye color.. Mine are very dark brown.. maybe that is why I have a hard time seeing at night when I drive on the road.
Then again, it could be because since Straight I've been sensitive to light
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on October 21, 2002, 11:03:00 AM
Hey, your right 2dogs.. where is everyone in Michigan? Not many people in this state posting much anymore.. I guess it's rare or something.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on October 24, 2002, 12:49:00 PM
I know , it's too bad. I don't believe that there were only 12,000 kids in Straight nation-wide in all those years. I probably met a thousand poor bastards while I did my 18 months , and that's not including parents & siblings. I was friends with more people while in there , than are on the whole alumni board. I wish there was a way to make everyone who was ever in Str8 aware that there is a place you can tell your story without people rolling their eyes in disbelief. I mean I never wanted to even think about Straight because even though it is anchient history , it still invokes that total frustration of powerlessness , that only finds acceptance through others who REALLY know. So unless there is a way to reach out and find our long-lost tribe of misfortunates , I think it will always be just a trickle of wondering ghost who run into us out of dumb-luck or curiosity.  
  "somos pocos pedo locos"   We are few but we're crazy.  
   Looks like there is a new name on the Plymouth list (which branch...poll).......2DOGS
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on October 24, 2002, 09:19:00 PM
Wow, that almost sounded like the way we used to write out our Moral Inventories.. ugh.. scary.
However, you might be right about this, we may find people here and there that post on occassion, but won't find anyone who is going to devoted to stay and post for a great length of time from Plymouth that is.
I'm wondering if we could possibly get a devoted area on Fornits for just Plymouth Michigan, since Morgan Y. has it, I don't see why we couldn't try :smile:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on October 25, 2002, 02:21:00 PM
Sorry I havent posted here for awhile, Im pretty busy. Yeah I would love for some more MI people to post. LadyJ thanx for your comment on the "staff" thread it did my heart good to read your post and I appreciated it greatly. Peace
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: ladyjerrico on October 29, 2002, 09:25:00 AM
Your welcome, and my memory is just trying to recap a few more things, so I appologize it took so long for me to remember you.
Michigan seems slowely detererating from the message board lately, but I understand that people have busy lives, myself included. Take care :smile:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2002, 03:05:00 AM
love the japanamation ladyj pretty hot
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on November 24, 2002, 01:54:00 AM
Just trying to keep this topic somewhere near the top. Thought I saw a few familar names from around these sites and wanted to give em' a place to jump in without having to go up against all the "leagalize dope" folks. So sick of that shit. I just wanna yak with "my" people about our time there and how it's going now. Whatever.  Anyone new around here from Plymouth?   .....Joey
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: dreammagician on November 24, 2002, 04:04:00 AM
What a strange world we live in. I have a really good friend whom has helped me dramasticaly at work. I work for a law firm. Anyways, she is from Ann Arbor. Wow, I can't beleive they started straights up there. I went through the St. Pete program back in the early 80s. I heard that Ann Arbor is a cool place. I think dearly of all of the people who had to suffer in the hands of pro love. Peace.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2002, 12:43:00 PM

On 2002-11-23 22:54:00, 2dogs wrote:

"and wanted to give em' a place to jump in without having to go up against all the "leagalize dope" folks. So sick of that shit."





Please for give us for wanting to change things so that Less kids are less likely to be put in such places as Straight.


ba ba sheepole have you any will,

No sir, No sir, Straight has got it still!



Unless we as a people (not sheepole) are we going to make any progress against some of these Mind fuckers.  we are all screwed. Do you have an aversion to the truth!




I am so tired of prohibitionist shit :flame:


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Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2002, 03:53:00 PM
Here ya go!
http://dfaf.org/gazebo_frame.html (http://dfaf.org/gazebo_frame.html)
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: kaydeejaded on November 24, 2002, 09:27:00 PM
You would think that with war, aids, poverty, terror, depression, fear, opression, and all that shit that we could smoke a joint in peace. But no. God forbid we should do something as simple and non threatening as smoke a doob. Sometimes I wonder about this place.  :???:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on November 25, 2002, 02:10:00 PM
Is one topic too much to ask for? You have got the entire rest of the board.  Like a bunch of bullies , you are going to make sure everyone see's the light , even if they don't want to hear about it.  Kinda reminds me of a different time in my life...Give someone a keyboard and all of the sudden he/she is not "powerless" any more. Like the nerdy kids who became dickhead cops.  What... are you going to make everyone admit they have a "war on drugs problem" , and have them make up stories about how they use to not care , but now they see how they were wrong and are going to make a change so they can move on (on the board) and make it to a higher phase so they can have disscussions with people about other topics than the war on drugs. Give me shit if you want about being angry. I am , a little . Finally found a way back to a lost childhood where talking with other 's like me made it "ok" and now every time I post anything , someone has to reply with how lame I am for not realizing that my topic has nothing to do with the war on the "war on drugs" and tells me something about how the Semblers are still out there and how we must get em'.  I'm not totally ignorant to what's happening. I read most of the latest crap. I just don't care. As hard as it is to believe , some people couldn't care less. Why try and make me care? Why is it so important that everyone be part of the "group conscience" ? What's the harm of letting others use these forums freely , without interest for the "cause"? Kinda like some religious cult that can't sustain it's belief with out getting everyone to believe...Looks like Straight fully suceeded when it taught us how to mob and confront anyone who isn't going our why.
   ANYONE FROM PLYMOUTH STRAIGHT?
  That was the original topic. It would be nice to  have this topic a starting point for MI folks to come and say hi without being bombarded with the war. Just finding these sites is a little overwhelming. You can't help but see that there is a war going on and if someone wants ,they will surely join. Myself , I've never wanted anything to do with anything I've be, forced, pushed or minipulated into. I fully respect everyones right to speak freely. But when one just inserts thier veiw into a completely different topic...You all have the right to do that ,but it is just bad manners and really frustrating....2dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2002, 07:10:00 PM
On 2002-11-25 11:10:00, 2dogs wrote:
"I just don't care. As hard as it is to believe , some people couldn't care less. Why try and make me care?"


It is exactly this type of attitude (not just about drugs, about our entire governmental policy) that got us to the Fucked up lame ass place we are currently at.

 ::soapbox:: Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics does not take an interest in you.

You claim to have read the posts around here, and if you had, you certainly would see that going off topic is not uncommon. You are taking too much of this to heart, chill out :smokin:

If ya let the stress get to ya, you look end up looking like this-> :silly:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Antigen on November 25, 2002, 07:21:00 PM
All due respect, 2dogs, but you're the one bitching about drug policy discussion. I don't think anyone's complained about yours (or anyone else's) lack of interest in the topic. Ask a question, get an answer. Careful what you wish for, I guess.

If you want to talk about something other than the war on users of certain unpatentable drugs and still talk about Straight, Inc., well... good luck. They're up to their eyeballs in rigging drug policy to their advantage.
http://www.ips-dc.org/projects/drugpolicy/ohio.pdf (http://www.ips-dc.org/projects/drugpolicy/ohio.pdf)

But there are a lot of (off topic) threads in these forums that don't even mention drug policy. Feel free to engage in those. Or start a new one. But don't be surprised if any discussion relating to Straight eventually comes around to the war. To do otherwise would be like not talking about the elephant in the room.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on November 26, 2002, 01:16:00 AM
I happen to be enjoying this "lame ass fucked-up place we are living in".There has to be an elephant in the first place to ignor. I don't get high, I rarely break the law , I don't even drink. The war on drugs will do NOTHING to me or my family or really any of the people I hang-out with so I don't give a shit about fighting for someone else's right to smoke dope without going to jail. I don't ever have to worry about another drug offense or DUI. I don't even care if the cops want to search my truck. I know YOU don't want to get busted and don't want others like you getting busted and having kids get sent to shit-hole rehabs , so go ahead and fight and protest ,I would If I were you. But don't forget that most of the people in this country don't get high or don't get high often enough to worry about fighting for the right to party.  Just because we all here were locked up in Straight shit -holes doesn't mean we all care to be part of "the movement". You say "I'm the only one bitching". You could only wish that were true. Why do you think there are 200+ members  and you and a couple of your newcomers are doing all the groaning. I'm just the only jackass that is dumb enough to ask you to mind your own business. I mean I know that you have absolutely no control , you totally can't let shit go. You'll have to come up with something clever to show me the light.  BTW , ANTI... I didn't know you were in Plymouth Straight...2dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on November 26, 2002, 01:19:00 AM
I thought Antigen wrote both replies so , sorry. Half of that " fuck-off" goes to "nameless"...dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: dreammagician on November 26, 2002, 03:47:00 AM
So we all don't stay on topic. Big whoopie shit. Who really freakin gives a hoot. You know, talkin about movin up the phase, like getting in conversations. Give me a damn break. If I want to go off topic, I fuckin will. You will never ever control me. I think we were all controlled enough already. Welp, don't mean to piss anyone off but I beleive marijuana will be legalized eventually. I'm glad you don't smoke pot, just leaves more for me. hehehh
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: METALGOD8 on November 26, 2002, 09:48:00 AM
Hi 2DOGS. I can understand what you are saying. I had many people tell me to go jump in the creek when we were inviting people to the reunion. I think for me, this is not about getting sembler, it is about the whole damn thing. straight inc never should have existed, EVER. You don't have to care now, that's OK. Sometimes I wish it would all go away. One problem, it won't. Maybe Plymouth was a bit tame compared to St Pete and the others, that could have something to do with your situation. I think they were all bad, didn't belong here, and feel like my parents and I were suckered into this cult which pisses me off. Sure, I had done 30 different drugs and needed some direction in life, but not that kind of treatment. I can understand how you would not want to be "forced" into the movement so I won't try! LOL... One of my jamming partners gets highly pissed off when the word straight inc is mentioned, so I try not to mention it too much around him. One day maybe he will see what I am doing and want to help. We survivors are a minority 2DOGS and we are also in finite supply. After we are all dead it won't matter anymore. In the meantime, I would like to see some changes with respect to these mind control freaks. Offering a suggestion: I found the best way to locate people in the program was to use the yellow pages on the internet. If you remember their names, then you will have an easier time, of course. Well, good luck MG8
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on November 26, 2002, 01:10:00 PM
yo 2 dogs thanx for keeping this thread afloat.   :cool:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2002, 03:17:00 PM
No, I wrote the Anon post, sorry I was too lazy to log in.



I guess you didn't get the point of the last post. It was not about drugs. It was about people with an "I don't give a shit" attitude toward ALL politics.



Sodomy is against the law (unless you are a politician), but if the chick I am screwin' likes to get fucked in the ass, why should either of us have to go to jail for it. What right does the government have to come intrude behind closed doors?



There are just toooooooooo may stupid ass laws because of dumb fucks like you who think that as long as it's not me, it's all ok.



I believe that it was Martin Niemvller who said:


"In Germany, they first came for the communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic.

Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."






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Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Antigen on November 26, 2002, 05:30:00 PM
Ok, $40 Billion dollars a year to secure a tight monopoly on $400 Billion per year in international trade in illicit drugs. That's at least a large, round footprint.

The IVth Amendment is long dead. You are not secure in your person, papers or effects. Your business is John Walters' business. That's at least a loud, thudding foot-fall, even if you're too deaf to hear it.

Asa Hutchinson, chief of the DEA, has just been apointed as Tom Ridge's deputy in the newly created Homeland Security Department. The entire Bill of Rights has just been officially suspended. Is it not pretty clear now what the war has been all about? Do you not get it yet?

Here's a big clue that most former Program captives understand right off the bat. Straight was not a drug rehab. They knew that at the time. Straight was about getting control of your parents' money and your mind.

The "drug war" never was about drugs. It's about control.

Now then, back to the original bitch session. If you don't want to talk about it, then don't. But if you think I'm going to  :nworthy: and kiss your ass just because you don't want me to talk about it???  :rofl:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on November 27, 2002, 01:56:00 AM
Now if they tryed to really enforce the "no anal" law , then I would surely be as obsessed with stopping some bastards as you. But I wouldn't enterupt a topic to bitch in someones ear , who doesn't even like getting thier shit pushed in.  Nice quote.  This isn't Germany.   And the only reason no one will ever take this shit seriously is because of pushy folks like you who refuse to have anything to do with anybody eles' laws.  You are just discounted like a bunch of brat kids. "I won't be controled..." good for you. "I'll talk about whatever I want to..." You go right ahead. I never even hinted that you should not speak. I simply said I was "so sick of that shit". Thats why I stayed out of the political topics and picked a simple one. But you fuckers had to come stalking and spread your bullshit. I try as hard as I can to stay out of your jibber-jabber ,but you gotta come find me and make sure I'm properly informed. Ask yourself how many people you have really educated. Now ask yourself how many  people have been completely turned off towards getting envolved because of your pushy , controlling attitude towards everyone who doesn't  think like you. You couldn't possibly anwser that honestly. If you ever get an ounce of the justice you are trying so hard to get , I will eat my shorts.  I already got em' all back by doing well in life inspite of having done things my own way.  When ever I read your reply's Anti , I want to laugh at how sick in the head your are. All you can do is reply with useless information. But I end up not laughing because it really is sad what Straight did to you.

  And for the record,  I , 2Dogs , would like  to see weed legalized , just not so bad that I would completely try to annoy every person I can possibly make listen to me.

    It's not like trying to ignor the elephant in the room. It's more like the elephant in the solar system. Unless , to you , it's in the room.

   Keep trying , one day ,maybe , I'll see what you mean, then your life will have meaning............2Dogs



 You are very welcome Qud. They are wearing me down. I might need help keeping it at the top...lol...

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Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: quddusism on December 04, 2002, 02:13:00 AM
Look peeps, I understand the anger over the war on drugs, and the war on terrorism, perhaps more than most. I believe in true justice not man made laws that are created to serve the needs of an elite few. I dont think thats 2dogs point, rather his point is that he isnt against discussing issues, he just doesnt want to get attacked by said issues and particularly not on this thread. Some people come to this site to vent, some to mourn, some to find old friends, and some just for the hell of it.I dont think its to much for all of us to respect each others needs. :smokin:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Antigen on December 04, 2002, 12:34:00 PM

On 2002-10-24 18:19:00, ladyjerrico wrote:

"Wow, that almost sounded like the way we used to write out our Moral Inventories.. ugh.. scary.

However, you might be right about this, we may find people here and there that post on occassion, but won't find anyone who is going to devoted to stay and post for a great length of time from Plymouth that is.

I'm wondering if we could possibly get a devoted area on Fornits for just Plymouth Michigan, since Morgan Y. has it, I don't see why we couldn't try :smile:"




Hey, I don't know how I missed this, except that I was pretty busy around the end of October. Anyway, sure, I'll be happy to set up another forum for Plymouth. Who wants to moderate? Please email me with the title and description that you want to show in the forums list.



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Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on December 05, 2002, 03:03:00 PM
Thanks "Q"....
  You are alright Ginger... Hey , wait a minute. Is this some kind of trick to lure us into the fray?...(lol)....Love ya, ...Dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2002, 05:20:00 PM
Nope, no trick.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2002, 12:02:00 AM
I guess if there are enough people that want a Plymouth Straight only Forum, I will be happy to make one. So lets find out...

Should we start a Plymouth Straight Forum
Yes
No
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on December 13, 2002, 03:24:00 PM
WELL?.......
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Antigen on December 13, 2002, 04:10:00 PM
No, I don't think I'll start a forum for just 3 people.

http://fornits.com/wwf/polls.php?view=4 (http://fornits.com/wwf/polls.php?view=4)

However, someone from Pathway just started posting. Maybe we should change the title from "Pathway Family Center" to "Straight, MI / Pathway Family Center"?  

Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its
best state is but a necessary evil ---in its worst state an
intolerable one; for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same
miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without
government, our calamities is heightened by reflecting that we
furnish the means by which we suffer!


Thomas Paine, Common Sense

Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on December 14, 2002, 01:32:00 AM
Is that what happened to Straight Plymouth , MI? Is there more than one Family pathways?
   I really didn't want a forum , just a topic. Apparently , folks from MI don't seem to be as pissed-off. Maybe it was easier  than the rest. I personally fucking hated every second of it,  but I still have a hard time getting all drummed-up about it now????  Maybe thats why I don't give a shit what "Mel's" doing...dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Antigen on December 14, 2002, 01:17:00 PM
That's real possible, dogs. Same thing seems to be true of Dallas. It folded pretty quickly. And Ppl from Dallas seem really shocked to hear what was going on in other locations.

I think there's a Pathway in Salt Lake City and maybe another one. Check out that forum and see if the person posting there knows anything about it.

I tried for years to live according to everyone else's morality.
I tried to live like everyone else, to be like everyone else.
I said the right things even when I felt and thought quite differently.
And the result is a catastrophe.

---Albert Camus

Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on December 27, 2002, 02:21:00 PM
Happy Holidays everyone. Just trying to keep this piece floating. On a more serious tip. I recently found out that Jerry Trevethick passed away we will keep him in our thoughts and prayers. Love ya Jerry
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on December 28, 2002, 05:32:00 PM
Just wondering who you are anonymous?  Any idea how Jerry went?  He had a brother in the program named Dan. I wonder how he is dealing with it.  Poor Jerry was really a good dude. He tryed to do things with common sense in the program and was about the only one that I can remember who bent the rules that way a little and got away with it. He was kind of a hero of Straight for that.Sad.....Joey
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2003, 11:58:00 AM
I dont know how he passed just know that he did.Sorry. Sure Ill tell you who I am, Im anonymous in denial so Im not an alcoholic just call me NORMAL so Im a weedhead. :smokin:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on January 08, 2003, 09:49:00 PM
Right-on NORMAL. When were you in? How did you know Jerry? Whatever , you don't have to tell me ...just yappin'....2Dogs
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2003, 12:47:00 PM
Hello everyone......You know it's pretty amazing to stumble across this site. I happened upon this from, of all places, The VoodooTribe/Godsmack site, and cannot believe all of the people on here! My name is Brian Mooney. I was tricked into straight/Plymouth, as many were in early 1986. My brother, John came into the program about 3 months after I did. When I got there, there were approximately 25-30 people in the Mi. program. Most of them were from the Cincinatti program that moved here when the Mi. one opened. Some names that come to mind....Jerry and Dan Trevithick, Vicki Stramecki, Will Bolger, Jeff Buttrey, Dawn Simms, Rich Pauli, Leonard Hayes, Brian Stachio, Colleen Cox, Sam Imig, Rashaad???, Jim Sodin, Dan Berry, I can't quite place his name....but he was a big fan of "Billy Jack" films....hahaha, Man....trying to jog memory...., I'm trying to remember the girl, on staff, that eventually went out with/married Rich Pauli....Liz something???? Anyways, My parents still keep in contact with a couple of the families that were in there too. I can't remember who....but someone recently commited suicide several months ago. That was about the last thing I've heard about that place....until now. My life is going well....after ALOT of bullshit. I do drink and smoke, and haven't really had many problems since leaving that place. I'm REALLY surprised that this so-called recovery system is still running in different entities today. That is pretty fucking sad!!!!! BTW I do still have a video....that had my brother in it, from I believe a news source that did a special on that place. My brother was crying because I had copped-out shortly beforehand....My brother is doing well, married with a wonderful son....living in Austin, Texas. He graduated the program, but I didn't. He's clean to this day....but not because of Straight!!! :exclaim:  :exclaim:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on March 13, 2003, 02:50:00 PM
Who could forget Vicki , I don't know how many times some jealous staff prick busted me for checkin' her out. Super hot even with out make-up and sitting in the flouresent sun. Arlen was liz's last name she pretty much hated me. I talk to Nick Hoffman (aka "the bird") once in a while and he always tells me how Will bolger is all fucked-up, but Nick is still pretty programed. Leonard was the "prick oldcomer in my other post.  Sam was Jim morrison. Rashaad is the one who scared me out of an afterscare meeting where I ran all the way to L.A. to not get set back in group. Soden got drug off of 4th or 5th phase and sent to prision for killing someone , never did get that whole story, he was a good dude. Barry's dad was a nightmare "Straight parent". He was pretty funny.  I think I did some (embarressing) speaking engagements with your brother Jonh at some high schools. I would love to hear from him. I can relate to the "lot of bullshit" before working it out. It takes a lot of dope to get that shit out of your head or something else that I never had...dope did the trick though...Joey 8/86'-12/87'
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2003, 04:00:00 PM
Hey man!!! YEAH I SAID MAN!!!!!! I remember you now....I had my difficulties when i left there.....but you know....I learned what REAL friends were. My buds helped me out in so many ways. Yeah, I got into trouble, I tried more drugs than I should  have, I couldn't even go outside, when i copped-out, I was so terrified to look out the window at the real world, when I finally went outside, I had to crawl through the door. A friend helped me through that....It's AMAZING yet scary as fuck to look back on those days.....Just reading the stories of what other ppl wrote that actually knew what i went through, is pretty incredible and overwhelming at the same time....Yeah...I smoke.....Yeah.I drink.....but you know what????If I need to resort to those two things, the rest of my life, then i will gladly do so, That fucking place changed my life, and i know there are things with how i feel about me, that i can directly relate to 16-17 years ago. But.....DON'T get me wrong......I've moved on from that place....and its really interesting to read through these sights....and hear from ppl i once knew back in that FUCKED-UP period in my life. I know you guys/girls understand.....just as much now, as in the past........That's what REAL friends are for-------Moonman* :smokin:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Antigen on March 13, 2003, 04:18:00 PM
Damn! How in the world could I have left Kelly's site off of Anonanon. Well, it's there now. Anyone know of any other sites that should be listed there?

BTW, thanks for making me go wandering around the Godsmack site! It was fun.

Everybody's lost just waiting to be found. Everyone's a thought just waiting to fade.
-- Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins

Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2003, 05:36:00 PM
You wanna know something???? I love the Simpsons.....and well, I've got to give X-TRA SPECIAL thanx to Bart....for, forever reminding me of the most-broken rule of "No saying man, cool, or dude....no druggie talk"... :nworthy:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2003, 05:38:00 PM
MOONMAN* :smokin:  :smokin:  :silly:
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on March 14, 2003, 02:46:00 AM
2 things that still give me the willies when I picture them.
  1. Those  little windows way up above where staff use to sit.
  2. That weird kinda hole thing up in the ceiling in the carpet room. I use to "get in my head" about sneaking away on "T&R" and hiding up there until everyone went home then runnin' for it.
  Other shit that pops into mind...
Freaky fucking Doctor pearson
again...Vicki's biggin's
runner badges
phone moms
friday night review
wind sprints
water drinking contests
Shimburnson's(sp)bleeding ass hemroids
farting in the intake rooms
C.O.C.'s
being "acting 5th phaser" w/ a hard-on
Get caught "talking-out" by the fourth phase side and the fucker stairs at ya while he holds his rat ass little hand out in front of him for the 5th phaser , to report you... wait I did that..oops
listening to some fag bust out some tears confessing to being such a loser druggie because he banged some hot chick in his past.
 The look on some poor bastards face when they got drug out to group for the first time and staff says" hold on. Does anyone know so-in-so from thier past.".......

 Don't let it freak you out bro. It tends to trip a survivor up when all that shit comes back at once. You can E-me if you want. Do you talk to your bro still. Kick me his e-mail address. You still in MI? ...Joey
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2003, 02:24:00 PM
Detroit in the muthphukn hisnause!!!!!! Im sayn wheres my peeps at? All you eminem wanna be muthaphuckas can...well anyways some one from MI please post something so I dont have to talk shit to keep this thread visiable nawimean!?! You wanna fuck wit me, you wanna fuch wit me???!!!???
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Antigen on March 29, 2003, 02:56:00 PM
Ya know, we set up another forum for Detroit location.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewforum.php?forum=21&97 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewforum.php?forum=21&97)

Please don't misunderstand. I'm not implying that I don't want you posting here, or even that (aside from tech issues) I have or want any authority over you to tell you where or what to post. I just think you're more likely to find Mo Town ppl over there if you're looking for them.

Whenever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.
Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798

Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: 2dogs on March 30, 2003, 08:00:00 PM
G, maybe you could make PFC it's own deal because Plymouth Straight was a totally different place and people...Joey
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2003, 09:45:00 PM
Hey man, I dont wanna hang out with them PFC lil' bitches! No fuckn way Im going to sit on this thread and wait for da big boys to come by!My dogs are gonna come sooner  or later. And if you try to kick me off this thread Im gonna treat ya like you was back in group! :lol:  Love yas
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2003, 03:28:00 AM
Michigan what the fuck !?! Where are you?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on January 03, 2004, 01:23:00 AM
Quote
On 2002-08-02 10:24:00, quddusism wrote:

"I was in the plymouth program from 87 till 89. Its a trip to see all this stuff about a place I forgot about so long ago I mean this shit is surreal. Now that my memory has been dusted off some Id really like to hear whats up from people I was in there with. I was there 1 month under 2 years so theres so many people if anyone knows people and there whereabouts please post it. Ill name some people off the top of my head. chris simms, peter gilmore,jerry trevathick, rob collins, tony smith, bill ritchie (kid rocks brother),joe mcnish(the fish), elizabeth vorhees, danado collela, nikki peterson, cypress lockett,erin henderson, chris fisher , nikki stevens,rich pauli ,lori werder, jeanie paulachelie,percy mealing, brian elum,tara gus, those two crazy ass italian brothers,mike bolger ,will bolger, well for the moment thats all I can tink off but theres awhole lot more if anyone has info please contact me at quddusism@hotmail , Oh I forgot my name is Quddus Maus. peace

[ This Message was edited by: quddusism on 2002-08-02 10:26 ]"
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on January 03, 2004, 01:25:00 AM
yeah I was in that hell hole with you. I would like to hear from everyone.

krystene

[email protected]
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on January 03, 2004, 01:26:00 AM
Hey I remember you!

Krystene
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on January 03, 2004, 01:34:00 AM
I can't really read your this because it is in dark blue, but I was ther at the same time. email me if you want to talk.

[email protected]
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on January 03, 2004, 01:39:00 AM
Nick was the guy who worshipped Larry Bird! He was prettty cool.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on January 03, 2004, 01:48:00 AM
I kept in contact with all of them for awhile. Pete and Erica are from Saginaw. I use to live at Bruce Goins house in Farmington Hills.

Krystene
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on January 03, 2004, 01:50:00 AM
Has anyone heard from Andy? We went to the Soundgarden/Voivod concert when I graduated. I miss so many people from there.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on January 03, 2004, 02:08:00 AM
Anyone remember how that water always had floaties in it! I think "motivating" was the worst. How humilating to put your hands up and down like a monkey for 8 to 10 hours a day. Or open mtgs on mondays when we were all crammed in that dam carpet room sittin on the floor with sore backs and asses! Or how some people were hypochondriacs so they could always be in that damn room with a bed and get out of those shitty groups. I don't know if you remember who I am. I was the blond hair punk chick who was always accused of being to imagy. I only got to stand behind group once when I graduated because I was too "imagy". I gave up my Farah Faucett do 2 years earlier so I didn't exactly fit it. I loved having the ability to piss evetone off because I wasn't a Sraight zombie like a lot of others!
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
I was in from 90 - 92, i remember all of what you are talking about. I read that Jerry died, he lived 2 blocks from me for a while there and its hard to believe he is gone. I just came acreoss this site and its hard to see all the deamons that i have tried to burry for so many years stareing me right in the face. It is nice to know that there are still people like me that battle with the memories still. i will be checking back often to see what is new. i look forward to hearing from anyone who was in on my program.

Len
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on February 23, 2004, 01:24:00 PM
I was just curious to know why this site was on that website? What is the website so I can check it out. I never knew thase sites existed either. I had insomnia one night and decided to do a google search for Straight and found a lot of stuff. It's cool that everyone is trying to re-connect. I've found that whenever I disclose my so called "druggie past" being in Straight no one really truly understands unless they have been there. I usually just keep it to myself for this reason. I equate my time with being locked up for 22 months.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2005, 07:51:00 PM
cypress lockett is in prison as far as I know.  She was busted in Okemos.  Her and some others shot and killed a junkie.  She was alledgedly selling drugs at the time.  This was back in like '98-'00.  I can't remember.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2005, 07:54:00 PM
Len N.?  wow, I never would have guessed I would see  or hear that name again.  It's a good thing, and amazing.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on November 28, 2005, 11:02:00 PM
Whoa it's something seeing this thread come back up. I first found it 1/2/04 and was crying my eyes out while posting. Forgive the typos between all the tears I had shed finding other people out there who were finally not afraid to tell the truth about that place.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: taureana on December 29, 2005, 03:44:00 PM
My cousin has a friend that was in Plymouth Straight, but I don't know her name.  I think they met in a different rehab, or maybe knew each other from school briefly.  Not sure.  I don't have contact with my cousin anymore though.  She's a heroine addict and has lost custody of all 4 of her children because of her addiction.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: webcrawler on December 29, 2005, 06:18:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-12-29 12:44:00, taureana wrote:

"My cousin has a friend that was in Plymouth Straight, but I don't know her name.  I think they met in a different rehab, or maybe knew each other from school briefly.  Not sure.  I don't have contact with my cousin anymore though.  She's a heroine addict and has lost custody of all 4 of her children because of her addiction."


My host sister was in the Dallas program the same time as you and later transfered to Plymouth. You may remember her. I'll PM you her name.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: MammaBird on December 30, 2005, 03:02:00 AM
Cypress is in prison? That's so sad.

 She was part of a group of misbehavors I was in, we called ourselves the "sorry seven" because we got told how pathetic and sorry we were on such a regular basis. She was only 12 or 13 years old.  Mostly what I remember about her was that she wouldn't carve in her arms. Did she graduate or get pulled or what, does anyone know?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Detroit on December 31, 2005, 02:11:00 AM
Oh yeah, and her mom died shortly after she went to prison, too.  I think she had cancer or something with her heart or something.  I don't know. What an unbelievably rough time.
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: MammaBird on January 04, 2006, 01:14:00 PM
Did you know Katie Stadler, Gina or Paul Avino, or a little girl (she was like 12 or 13 and very tiny) named Nikki?

 Or (Brian) Scott Chandler?
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2006, 05:21:07 PM
I know scott chandler and nikki, nikki was from Indiana wasnt she mexican or something
Title: anyone from plymouth straight?
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2006, 05:35:31 PM
Where'z my MI dogs? 2 dogs where ya at homie? :rofl: