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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: **PIXIE DUST** on November 01, 2004, 10:28:00 PM
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YAY!!!! :grin:
guys, i got a lawyer who will listen to me. he's done several cases on CEDU and won them. give me your stories, and we'll get this bitch done with! [ This Message was edited by: **PIXIE DUST** on 2004-11-01 19:30 ]
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i got one person! keep the stoires coming, i really need the help! you can e-mail it to me at: [email protected]
and my screen name is chance2swim4gold
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what are the grounds for your lawsuit?
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is the lawyer first name tom?
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Here's the problem as I see it- we don't have any proof of what happened to us- at least I don't have any proof other than what other students will testify to. Additionally, for me, it was approximately 11 years ago- wouldn't the statute of limitations have run out? :???:
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I hope someone has something intelligent to respond to the above post. It would be helpful to many people for many reasons.
There are many exceptions for "statutes of limitation".
Uhhh. I think.
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The questions regarding the statue of limitations would be best answered by
PIXIE's Lawyer. Pixie ask him and let us know
what he says.
Remember that a civil lawsuit is much different than a criminal investigation in that the burden of proof is not necessarily on us, but rather on cedu to prove that our allegations are untrue, and also to provide an alterior explanation as to why we are really suing (meaning they would have to convince the judge that we are suing them for the wrong reasons).
Documentationm is a problem, as most of us had no way of documenting the abuses that we endured at cedu. However, please remember that cedu has already been sued by several former students and either settled out of court or had judgements made against them.
(Pixie) If your lawyer intends to sue on similair grounds as to the lawsuits that cedu already lost (as I believe he would), then these past judgements and/or settlements will add significant weight to your claims.
Pixie, it will help us all if you give us a detailed explanation for the basis of your
lawsuit, as well as identify exactly what kind of information you are looking for. It will be much easier for all of us to help you, once we have more facts.
Other than that, my advice would be to line up as many witnesses as possible. The more mouths we have telling the same story, the greater the chances that our story will be believed. It also wouldn't hurt if we could get a few of the former cedu staff who post here to lend their view as to how things work on the other side of the fence.
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[ This Message was edited by: SON OF SERBIA on 2004-11-02 08:33 ]
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one of my friends IMed me and talked to me about how he was denied his meds during a propheet. he also told me that a night staff at our school (BCA) baught a kid dip and beer, and did not get fired, had no consequences or anything.
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sorry, that last post was me.
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Thanks Pix, for going to the trouble.
Serb says we need more info and we do. But we should gather all the info without laying our cards on the table.
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I'd like to know who the lawyer is and would like some answers, if possible, about the statute of limitation and burden of proof/necessity of solid, strong evidence. Pixie- is there any way for you to post the lawyers info here so that we can get in touch with him ourselves?
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according to what i'm reading in this thread, it doesn't sound like this lawsuit will be taken too seriously...
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can tell all you need to know about suing cedu as my ex-husband used to work for them. just ask and you will recieve answers
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Okay- you offered....
1) is there a statute of limitations?
2) how much evidence do we need? will our stories be enough? Will others corroborating our stories be enough?
3) what is Cedu's standard protocol for handling lawsuits? What have the lawsuits been about? What have they settled for?
Which school did your husband work for? When?
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i would hope this lawyer everyone is talking about is not todd reed at sandpoint legal. he tells people hes won a ton of cases, but ask any client who has used him and im sure you will all get the same advise as me not to use him. His winning several cases was actually one, and there was a different lawyer in his firm in charge of the case. He makes promises and misses deadlines. within 4 weeks of leaving a suit with him some time ago, i had a new lawyer and a settlement.
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I am an ex staff. I emailed Todd Reed and he responded, inviting me to be of assistance. I emailed him back, asking what legal protections I would have. HE NEVER RESPONDED!!!!! Not one word. I would be helping HIM - and he couldn't assure me I was protected?!?!?! FORGET IT. Find someone else.
On 2004-11-03 15:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"i would hope this lawyer everyone is talking about is not todd reed at sandpoint legal. he tells people hes won a ton of cases, but ask any client who has used him and im sure you will all get the same advise as me not to use him. His winning several cases was actually one, and there was a different lawyer in his firm in charge of the case. He makes promises and misses deadlines. within 4 weeks of leaving a suit with him some time ago, i had a new lawyer and a settlement."
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My buddy met a lawyer at a party recently recently.
After learning what the guy did my friend took a long snog of whiskey and asked him "I don't know if you can help me, but...how do i go about suing my lawyer?"
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Hi Folks,
Some thoughts...To clarify, (for those who may not know) there is no Cedu to sue anymore. Even though the properties have been purchased and some semblance of the programs restarted, Universal Health Services (the company that owns at least one of the Idaho schools) is NOT liable. Individuals can still be held personally responsible though, and since most were not eligible for malpractice insurance at the time in which they worked at Cedu, they would need to cover the cost of their defense. I do not know the statute of limitations in all states (it is state to state) nor do I know whether the limitation is based on the state in which abuse occurred or in the state in which the suit is filed. In Massachusetts (when abuse occurred here and when the suit is filed here) the statute of limitation for some forms of abuse is 20 years.
Lastly, suing for malpractice is incredibly difficult -- even if contracts exist. I recently had a client involved in a lawsuit in which his counsel seemed clearly negligent and frankly bad. Even given public and well documents "bad lawyering" the legal advice we received is "so what?" Getting another hearing with new counsel was easy but actually trying to penalize the first attorney was incredibly expensive; no other attorney we spoke with could find a reason to take the case (no money in it and the malpractice was not clear cut); and it didn't address the reason for the suit in the first place.
Best, M