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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Seed Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 03, 2009, 01:33:38 PM
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Here is Libby's contact info.
Give her a call. Send her emails.
Let her know how you feel.
Tell her she is an accomplice to murder.
Give her no rest.
Ask her for your medical records, which by FEDERAL LAW, they MUST supply.
Lybbi Kienzle
(954) 767-6371 (Home)
(954) 536-7251 (Cell)
Email: [email protected]
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this will stay at the top of this list as long as this board is here, and i am alive.
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Whats your contact info ?
Phone #, address & email?
You piece of work.
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give libby a call and ask her.
i left all my contact info. on her answering machine.
but, sadly i have not heard from her.
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so guest - you cunt. you weak and spineless worm.
at least tell us your name.
at least get a username.
but, like all worm like characters - like all seedlings that surrendered their soul to those with not a shred of intellect or rational thinking, you have no individuality.
and the use of guest is enough proof that you lost your soul to just another false "profit"
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Thank you for keeping this on the top of the list, pay back is always a bitch, like sitting in those chairs from 10 till 10, may none of those staff members sleep at night or anyone at all involved with the pain and suffering of all who entered that place.
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please contact nan rich and tell your story.
i believe her husband was a seed victim.
i have already written to her.
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Libby tortures dogs now
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If she was taken to court , they would not allow her near any children nor animals of any kind, those poor dogs look sad and abused, I guess she needs to feel like she can boss something around. I fear for those poor dogs, I believe she punishes them to get them to do as she demands.
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please contact nan rich and tell your story.
i believe her husband was a seed victim.
i have already written to her.
Yeah, he was. A lifer. A few years back, his sister looked me up looking for help or advice on how to get a message to her brother. The other brother who left the program and, therefore, was cut off from all contact w/ the Super Seedlings, was days from death. I don't think they ever put a message through for her or, if they did, he never responded.
Does that disambiguate the nature of that relationship some?
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sad, even the seed kept her own family apart
what twisted , mis guided lack of judgement is that?
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Re: Libby's Contact Information - Give Her A Call
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You want to know what real harassment is???? How about kidnapping, you want to know how it feels or do you want to just be some asshole that likes to jump in here and pretend you know what harassment is, I will indeed do anything just like those scum bags did, after all I do believe in what goes around comes around, so come on this way and I will be glad to show you harassment, I was taught by the seed,( and believe me I will harass anyone who says this is harassment) so Leave Stack alone guest and walk this way, as far as I am concerned who ever you are, which I believe you to be libby, no one has done anything except what they were taught, so too bad what ever you think anyways, as far as Stack he is a hero, and I will back him on anything he says or does, for one I am his sister, and for another if you think this is harassment wait till you all are in court, you will indeed know what harassment is then.Let the courts decide what harassment is. You loser, face to face with the kidnappers, druggies, hookers, comedians, and so on, I think someone is getting a bit scared, because the courts will indeed agree that I for one was kidnapped, and held against my will, and beaten, and probably drugged because I have no clue what was in that koolaid, and remember I was 13, so you just may be accused of many things I have not even posted YET, so fuck you guest(LIBBY) you have not seen what harassment is YET, but I promise you this you will, anyone who is against anyone from opening up, purging, about what happened to them, is only a coward,Cowards come in many forms, they sometimes look like old staff members from the seed cult. And for those who think this is harassment Huge laughter to you, its not harassment telling the truth about what went on in ones life while they were held against their will (kidnapped), beaten and so on. So too bad Libby. The seed indeed is going to get what they need and that's my fist up someones arse, now I believe that would be harassment.
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Re: Libby's Contact Information - Give Her A Call
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Leave it alone. This is mean spirited. I realize of course, that saying this isn't going to stop you from being so mean, you will have a million excuses on why it's okay to do this, but I must say please stop because I believe you are wrong.
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Hey Lybbie,
Thanks for the threats.
You really think you still have the power to threaten people after all these years?
What a delusional psychopath you are!
Don't you know we are all in our 50 's now?
That makes you a really old turd.
How's it feel to grow old alone, abusing canines now for profit?
How's it feel to know how many lifes you destroyed for money.
Who's the real whore ?
You layed down in bed with a smelly, cigarette smoking , old wrinkled prune of a stump because you couldn't find anyone else to love you. What a skank!
Even though you made me say"love you libby", I never loved you. None of those children loved you.
You pathetic scum from the bottom of my shoe.
You druggie whore pig slob .
Boo Hoo, sue away, I'd love to see the grounds.
Former sadist files suit to stop former abused from expressing their opinions in a public forum?
All your information is online and when you put it out there, expect to be contacted.
You participated in crimes against humanity.
You stinking, steaming piece of crap.
Hey, you still sucking off old fart barker?
That ones still gives me nightmares.
If you'd like to meet up in person to talk about all your crimes, I'll be in Fort Lauderdale at the end of the month.
I'd love to have a sit down with you, you piece of shit.
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Guest is just another brain washed out fart barker sucker, HARASSMENT ahahahahahahhah, that's a good one.
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Flicks a bugger at the Guest with no name.
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I will tell you what MEAN SPIRITED is, it is someone that stands up a child for hours at a time and screams in there face what a worthless piece of a life they are, it is a drunk comedian who sponges off of kidnapped kids, Mean spirited is when a staff member keeps you from using a bathroom, having 2 people holding your arms and not being able to use a bathroom because you need pee so bad, and yes I did piss my pants while I was in that place, that's freaking being Mean spirited, how about squeezing someones face cheeks so hard you can feel the heat from your cheeks , That to me is being MEAN spirited, forcing someone away from their family members and telling them day in and out that they do not give a shit about you and they never will, that is being MEAN spirited, Taking some child away from their friends and relatives and sports and most of all EDUCATION, is being MEAN spirited,having to sit in a chair sometimes being forced to stare only at a wall all day from 10 till 10 is MEAN spirited, not allowing a child to grow healthy is MEAN spirited, I could go on and on, and I shall go on and on, the staff at that place I was kidnapped at was a 100 percent MEAN SPIRITED, and I am sure they continue being so. Oh did I mention I do not like MEAN SPIRITED SOULS???MEAN spirited is someone chopping off another person hair in front of groups of people and attacking her while do so, causing me to fall and break my tooth, Mean spirited is being threatened that you could be harmed any time anyone wanted too, as well as family.Mean SPIRITED IS YOU GUEST. (LIBBY)
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What a brainwashed piece of work you ARE, LEAVE IT ALONE. I HAVE LEFT IT ALONE FOR OVER 35 YEARS. If you don't like what you are reading, move on.
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YEA.........
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you fucking windbag guest.
please, please, please.
bring on the lawsuit.
id love to stand and defend.
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the harrrrr \ ass ment is just beginning.
there will be no rest.
i have posted my address, name and phone number.
please be sure to get back to me.
you weak spineless coward.
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That's exactly what I am praying for myself, What a fool to think for a moment that anyone is afraid to say anything at this point in any ones life, how very sad but how very grand that someone is so bothered by the honesty that has been allowed to be posted in here, like I said before, I will so Love to stand before anyone of those fools who called themselves a freaking staff member or worker or seedling, I think by all this opening up and all, for one has helped me, and for second it has made me realize that this shit still goes on, I do not want to hide anymore I want to help anyone I can express what they went through, after all if I feel better then they will too, and so on and so on, and just maybe some grandmother (which now I am myself), may be able to smile rather then frown at their grand kids, I no longer feel ashamed so fuck anyone that wants to have a showdown, like I said before the courts would have a field day with this shit, for one the press would finally open up to what happened to thousands no millions, as this shit is still going on today, funny, I bet if old Libby had this shit happen to her like this shit happened to me, she sure enough would not be hiding, she would be right out in the open, so she was never a victim herself, she victimized that's what she did, I remember her walking into that place like she owned it, those eyes are a real give away, and the fake crying over a puppy does not get my attention, it gets however that she sure knows how to keep this shit going on in her life, using dogs is a sad way to make yourself feel anything at all. Well enjoy the day as I shall, this shows as far as I am concerned how far one of those fools will go to make sure nothing is said to hurt their sick ways.REMEMBER you are your own power, no one can ever take that from anyone, Peace.
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March 2009 Dog news letter attached.
Scroll to page 4 to see what a fraud Lybbi is.
Sorry, you don't get to move on and forget the thousands of crimes against humanity you committed.
Fuck you Lybbi
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Notice how sad the dog looks. I am going to punch that women in the nose one day.
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An Apology to Survivors of Straight Inc.
from a Former Executive Staff Member
12-31-08
This letter is in response to the Straight, Inc. Survivor's Letter Requesting Acknowledgement and an Apology.
My name is Richard Mullinax.
From 1985 - 1989, I was a staff member at Straight Incorporated, a drug and alcohol treatment facility for adolescents. If my memory serves me correctly, the dates, locations and positions of my employment were as follows:
Fall 1985 - Group Staff Trainee, Springfield, VA
Fall 1985 - Spring 1986 - Junior Staff, Springfield, VA
Spring 1986 - Winter 1987 - Senior Staff, Springfield, VA
Winter 1987 - Spring 1987 - Executive Staff, Springfield, VA
Spring 1987 - Fall 1987 - Executive Staff, Cincinnati, OH
Fall 1987 - Spring 1988 - Executive Staff, Springfield, VA
Spring 1988 - Spring 1989 - Executive Staff, Atlanta, GA
There were brief periods between 1985 and 1989 that I was not employed by Straight, and I may have some of the months wrong above.
For 19 years, I gave very little thought to my actions as a staff member of Straight. Then, in the Spring and Summer of 2008, I began to interact with Straight Survivors and listened to their experiences. As the weeks and months progressed, I became increasingly aware of the damage I caused to Straight Survivors as a staff member. After much reflection on the events of the 1980's I have become very much aware that many Straight Survivors lost their integrity, innocence, sense of self worth, youth, ability to trust others, family relationships and more as a result of my actions as a staff member, and I deeply regret that I am responsible for this as a Staff Member.
I realize now that many Survivors still suffer from diagnosed psychological disorders such as posttraumatic stress disorder, severe depression, social phobias, panic disorders, etc. caused by imprisonment in Straight, Inc, and that many Survivors still endure vivid Straight, Inc. nightmares, can still hear the screams of children as they were abused, and cannot forget the abuse they personally endured or witnessed as vulnerable children. I am deeply ashamed of my role in this, including not putting a stop to it.
By publishing this letter in a public forum, I publicly acknowledge that Straight, Inc. unjustly committed various crimes, abused children, and utilized extremely unethical practices against innocent young clients, which included, but were not limited to the following:
1) Brainwashing (aka coercive thought reform);
2) Physical abuse;
3) Usage of illegal and or unethical restraints – children routinely restrained children at the direction of staff for minor infractions (i.e. not motivating, not paying attention, etc.);
4) Unethical forms of extreme humiliation, including but not limited to; beltlooping, no privacy/watched while urinating, defecating, or bathing, motivating;
5) Food deprivation (ie. peanut butter diets, inadequate portions of food);
6) Sleep deprivation – caused by unwarranted, prolonged daily group hours (12), other time spent in the building (up to at least 3 additional pre and/or post group hours), lengthy commuting time, and in many cases, due to intentionally withholding sleep as punishment for not “cooperating” to coerce compliance;
7) Verbal abuse – unduly harsh confrontational tactics that included swearing, screaming, yelling, spitting, belittling, humiliating, etc., a child in front of a large group of child clients;
8) Sexual abuse; (while I was not aware of this while on staff, in recent months I have become aware, through the testimony of other Straight survivors, that this did happen)
9) Psychological abuse;
10) Coerced confessions;
11) Unjustifiable and lengthy isolation in intake and/or time out rooms;
12) Denial of necessary medical care;
13) Kidnapping;
14) False Imprisonment;
15) Accepting clients with little/no drug history (the so-called “dry druggie” theory); (Specifically, I was personally responsible for conducting client intakes that resulted in children with little history of drug or alcohol use);
16) Employing uneducated, unprofessional teenage staff. Specifically, I allowed myself to be employed by Straight as a counselor, knowing full well that I had no outside training and no education.
Additionally, I apologize for allowing the abuse, unethical practices and crimes to continue for years, and lending my name to, sponsoring, recommending, and endorsing Straight Inc., and for admitting children, their siblings and parents to Straight Inc., and for failing to properly and adequately oversee and monitor Straight, Inc.
I regret my decision to go on staff and I regret my actions as a Straight staff member. I made the decision to go on staff and I made the decision to advance to Executive Staff. I am responsible for these actions and take full responsibility. As a former Straight client myself, I, of all people, should have known better.
I am aware of several former Straight clients who have taken their own lives. Many of these people I knew personally. I can't begin to understand the circumstances of each death, but I have no doubt that in some of these deaths Straight had a role in this. My heart aches for the victims of suicide and their loved ones. I wish I could bring them back.
I would like to turn the clock back to 1985 and make better decisions. However, I am unable to undo the damage I have caused. I am unable to make any financial restitution to former victims, as well. However, in recent months, I have had the honor and privilege of interacting with former Straight clients who were victims of my actions and the actions of other Straight staff. It is my hope that these interactions have been a step toward healing the wounds that have remained for 2 decades.
Along those lines, there is something I can do; I can make myself available to Straight Survivors. If you or someone you know feels it would be productive to communicate privately with me for any reason, please contact the moderator of this web site and request that I contact you. I am happy to do so, especially if it would help in the healing process.
It is my hope that other Executive Staff and administrators will take this opportunity to acknowledge and apologize for their part in Straight, Inc. If any former staff would like to communicate with me privately for any reason, please contact the moderator of this web site and request that I contact you.
In closing, it is my sincere hope that survivors of Straight can find the healing and closure that they need and deserve. I look forward to being a part of that healing.
Sincerely,
Richard Mullinax
Straight Inc. Staff
1985 - 1989
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Will be calling back till I get my answers from her. Like for one why would a young women want to harm a young child, after all it was her that I look up at and said I never did drugs, and that was after being in that place for over 2 weeks, so lies are the way of that place, I will one day catch up with libby and I will one day confront that bitch myself, I do not need courts to ask my questions, however libby is the one who need answer them, so if taking her to court is the only way so be it, I hope I live to celebrate with my grandchildren the reward I so deserve which would be to tell the world what happened to me, I have not yet told my daughter of the horror I went through,that's some pretty harsh shit to let your own flesh know what horror I had to go through, for no reason at all. No more covering up what happened to me, will sit down with my sister and let her know what happened to me in a few weeks.
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Re: Libby's Contact Information - Give Her A Call
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Very well spoken my sister , we shall see how they like it when we visit them in a few weeks when you come to Miami to see me. Good to hear you my sister, calms me to know we are still heard, and Jack freaking rocks too. I liked the comment about red necks, how do surfers become red necks, I have never heard of a redneck surfer, lol, sounds funny though. Keep up the shouting I love that we all bug the kidnappers, that's a lot of money too that bastard paid for that condo he is now dying a slow death in, I hope he can still stand up so I can ask him personally where my records are, the song lol the song, what can I say, sigh......that is a great song about libby, I myself do not care if I spell that black souls name right, One thing for sure too is, that our family, though long we were parted from all the bullshit ROCKS, Fart Barker has no family, Libby has no life, after all look at her life, from kidnapper to dog abuser. Libby Libby Libby, on the table table table, you will never like her like her like her may she stay disabled disabled disabled
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What you are doing I wouldn't even think of doing to my worst enemy. I've never seen such meaness in my life and there is no excuse in the world for this behavior so don't even try to excuse it. God knows what you are doing and one day he'll judge you for what you've done here. I'm not friends with Libbie but she doesn't deserve this and nor does anyone else!!!!
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God is helping all the victims Libby, LOVE YA!
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God is helping all the victims Libby, LOVE YA!
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Guest is for sure Libby, hows it feel having yourself stripped in front of the world.
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I've never seen such meaness in my life and there is no excuse in the world for this behavior so don't even try to excuse it.
You must have been into your head during a lot of raps.
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Yea, why you so into your head Libby???? lol, ahahahaahhahahaha, into your head, good one Antigen, hee hee ,I do believe we have someones attention. Oh, make it rain I am laughing so hard at what guest said, I can not figure out , who would be more evil, guest, or the Fart Barker Family, Thinks the Stone Family Rocks, Peace to the victims of that dreadful place, Peace to the dogs that have to suffer the hands of Lybbyist, oh let the truth fall down upon her.
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What you are doing I wouldn't even think of doing to my worst enemy.
You mean exercising our right to free speech?
If Ms. Kienzle did not want to be contacted, her information would not have been so readily accessible on the internet where any one could retrieve it, including seed survivors.
I've never seen such meaness in my life and there is no excuse in the world for this behavior so don't even try to excuse it. God knows what you are doing and one day he'll judge you for what you've done here. I'm not friends with Libbie but she doesn't deserve this and nor does anyone else!!!!
Well, I hope God knows because that means that even if a few phone calls don't upset that bitch, he sure as hell will when her time comes.
You want meaness, Guest 2, try imagine being a 16 year old girl who was stood up in front of strangers and called a cunt,(that was a seed word used often) a whore, a junkie, that no one cared about me, that I had sex to buy drugs , that my entire being was invalid and insignificant. That I would end up in jail, homeless or dead if I didn't say I did things I never did.
Lybbie,Art and his skanky wife Shelly deserve so much more than this "calling out". They deserve to go to jail for all their crimes against humanity. They stole, kidnapped, committed great fraud and lied to thousands of parents and children.
You need a wake up call and a new bible, Guest 2.
Obviously you are still too scared to realise what that place did to so many . Open your eyes. Open your heart. Stop being a victim.
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YEA!
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oh, and -- there ain't no pie in the sky when you die.
we live a life and die out of a life. and that is all there is.
so, having one year stolen from me, in my prime -- was a large portion of my life, in true perspective of fleeting time.
if i had a disease and knew i was going to die from it -- mere words aren't the only action i would be taking.
debby del bueno.