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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Deborah on September 10, 2003, 07:44:00 AM

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Deborah on September 10, 2003, 07:44:00 AM

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In explaining why he filed for bankruptcy, Gluhareff also blamed the school?s closure on the actions of Lisa Grant, a former counselor for the school, who Gluhareff said ?kidnapped? four boys from the school on April 18 and incited a riotous atmosphere.
?That inappropriate behavior turned our school upside down,? Gluhareff told U.S. Bankruptcy Court Trustee Andrew Goldstein on Monday. ?(The Department of Social Services) found nothing wrong. There is nothing to the accusations.?
Gluhareff said the students began acting irrationally, threatening to burn the school down, and to kill him and his wife, Elizabeth.
?We didn?t sleep for three days,? he said, adding that Halifax County deputies were dispatched to the school and his residence.
Goldstein noted that Gluhareff and the school had general, unsecured debt of over $1.4 million, and inquired about the school?s performance in past fiscal years. The school earned $2,275,000 in fiscal year 2002-03, and $2,831,000 during the previous period.
The school?s tuition was $49,000 a year.

McCollum asserted that Gluhareff billed her for the tuition after her ex-husband had already paid it, adding that Gluhareff insisted that her ex-husband refused to pay.
?This is one of the most blatant examples of fraud,? she said.
McCollum said she anticipates having to sell her home to pay off the debt she accumulated as a result of making the tuition payment.
McCollum said her son ?lost his soul? as a result of his experience at Wellspring, and that he wants nothing to do with Christianity or God.

Troy ?Buddy? Martin, a Wellspring former employee, said he was never paid for his last few weeks at the school.
?Was there any reason I was not paid?? he asked. ?I worked.?
Gluhareff said Martin, like Grant, had caused problems and ?stirred up trouble,? a charge Martin denied.
Grant asked Gluhareff if she knew that the Virginia State Police had cleared her of all wrongdoing regarding taking the boys from the school, and that he was still under investigation.
?I have no comment on that,? Gluhareff answered.
Grant won a judgment against Gluhareff in Halifax County District Court on May 28, but said that $2,700 judgment has not been paid.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Antigen on September 10, 2003, 09:36:00 AM

Steve walks wanly down the street
With his brim pulled way down low
Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet
Machine guns ready to go
Are you ready hey, are you ready for this?
Are you hanging on the edge of your seat?
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat, yeah

Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too, another one bites the dust

How do you think I'm going to get along
Without you when you're gone?
You took me for everything that I had
And kicked me out on my own
Are you happy? Are you satisfied?
How long can you stand the heat?
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat. (Look out)
Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust

And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust
Hey I'm gonna get you too, another one bites the dust

Hey, Oh take it - Bite the dust bite the dust
Hey Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Oooh shoot out

There are plenty of ways that you can hurt a man
And bring him to the ground
You can beat him, you can cheat him
You can treat him bad, and leave him when he's down

But I'm ready, yes I'm ready for you
I'm standing on my own two feet
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
Repeating to the sound of the beat
Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust

And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust yeah, Hey I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust
Shoot out

The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected.

Will Rogers, American humorist, political commentator and cowboy philosopher

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Deborah on September 10, 2003, 06:52:00 PM

I likes!! Here's one back at ya, adapted from
Pink Floyd's "Another Brick In The Wall (Part II)"

We don't want your manipulation
We don't want no thought control
No more seminars in est fashion
FRs leave us kids alone
Hey, Kay, leave us kids alone
All in all you?re just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

We refuse to be subjugated
We don't need no consequences
No more torture in your OP rooms
Pricks leave us kids alone
Hey, Goons leave us kids alone
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

We don't want the ?help? your forcing  
No more behavior modification
No more abuses to kids and parents
Creeps leave us all alone  
Hey, Bob leave us all alone
All in all you?re just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

Kids don't need incarceration  
They don't need no exit plan
No more deception- the truth is out
Robert your game has been exposed  
Hey, Kay your days are numbered dear
All in all you?re just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just a program about to fall

Feel free to add your own verse.
Deborah

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2003, 10:23:00 AM

rev. bob gluhareff is a deceitful man that should have been exposed years ago. His practices of taking advantage of adults and children in their most venerable moments are not only deplorable, but also in this case probably illegal. His irresponsible actions and arrogant demeanor have gotten him sued several times in the past for allegations of fraud and sexual misconduct. The public is recognizing that people that hide evil deeds behind the cloak of righteousness (reverend, therapist, and business consultant) can no longer linger in the shadows but will be brought to the fullness of light and exposed. Victims of rev. gluhareff should no longer be intimidated and come forward with their stories so that no one else will be hurt. He has sown the wind, may he reap the whirlwind.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2004, 04:44:00 PM

Not too sure how old this thread is since I am not a member here, but I was an attendee at Wellspring Academy, I can agree with the above poster that Mr. Bob Gluhareff is a fraud and is a total asshole. Going to Wellspring Academy was the worst two year of my life, and this was the general consent of almost all of the students that went there. Bob decieved our parents, and us, so that he could make a buck. I cannot tell you all how grateful the school shut down. To hell with Bob Gluhareff.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: tmollura on January 14, 2004, 11:53:00 AM

Bob Gluhareff is a lier and a very evil man. I was attending that school for 2 years before it closed down. i was there the day it closed down. Lisa Grant did us a favor by taking some of us away from that place. Bob was not threatened in any way, shape or form. He decieved many parents, just to dip into their family savings. We were heared like cattle and flonted at his own expense. he is a lier and a thief

[ This Message was edited by: tmollura on 2004-01-14 08:54 ]

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: tmollura on January 14, 2004, 11:55:00 AM

who wrote that i am thomas mollura

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2004, 02:54:00 PM

Quote

On 2004-01-14 08:55:00, tmollura wrote:

"who wrote that i am thomas mollura"

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2004, 07:32:00 AM

Bob Gluhareff,several senior staff members, and numerous conditions at Wellspring are the current subject of investigations by the following agencies:
Criminal Investigations Unit of the Virginia State Police, Special Agent Carl Bond
PO Box 577
Appomattox  VA  24522

North Carolina Board of Licensed Professional Counselors
PO Box 1369
Garner NC 27529-1369
919-661-0820
Case #0134

Virginia Dept of Health Professions
Leith Ellis, Investigator
PO Box 4667
Glen Allen VA  23058
Cases 90628, 90630, 90747

If you were involved with Wellspring and have anything you'd like to say to these investigators, please contact them.  The state police are focusing on whether or not Bob Gluhareff delivered on his numerous promises to parents, and many financial issues.
 
Bob Gluhareff, Cindy Thomas and Jessie Diamond are all licensed professional counselors in North Carolina.  Their professional conduct is covered by that state's counseling board.  Numerous ethics complaints have been filed against them, which are currently under investigation.  If you believe you were treated unethically by Bob, Cindy or Jessie,please file a complaint.  Were you lied to or threatened?  Was your therapeutic privacy violated?  Were you subjected to their "interventions" and put in isolation, which they called "in school suspension"?  If so,please contact the NC Counseling Board.
 
No one on the entire Wellspring counseling staff was licensed to practice in Virginia, where the facility is located.  The Virginia Dept of Health Professions is investigating.

The only investigation that has been completed is that of the Virginia Dept of Social Services into allegations of child abuse at Wellspring.  Bob Gluhareff was found to have abused children at Wellspring and has lost his first appeal of that determination.  He has advanced to the second appeal level and awaits his next chance to dispute the finding.

Do your part.  Contact the above agencies and tell your Wellspring experiences.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2004, 10:52:00 AM

kids, parents, former "employees" of wellspring- please help bring this  man to justice. he has hurt so many people and will continue to do so until he is stopped. so many have tried to stop him, but he is evil. evil fights hard, but he will get his. don't let him get away with it anymore!!!! some of us aren't allowed to talk about it because of legal reasons, but you have no reason not to talk. he can't hurt you anymore so don't be afraid. there are so many people out there in your corner.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2004, 11:00:00 AM

Quote

On 2004-01-24 07:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

"kids, parents, former "employees" of wellspring- please help bring this  man to justice. he has hurt so many people and will continue to do so until he is stopped. so many have tried to stop him, but he is evil. evil fights hard, but he will get his. don't let him get away with it anymore!!!! some of us aren't allowed to talk about it because of legal reasons, but you have no reason not to talk. he can't hurt you anymore so don't be afraid. there are so many people out there in your corner. "

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2004, 07:46:00 PM

Wellspring's bankruptcy is in no way the fault of the counselor.  I was there.  I was a teacher.  The handwriting that something was grossly wrong was on the wall for a long time.  One of the posts here refered to Bob as Rev. Gluhareff.  I have to question that title.  With enough money I can send in a matchbook cover and receive the same title.  There is a big difference between a true pastor and a fake pastor.  I question Bob's credentials.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2004, 02:16:00 PM

Ok, first all the news about Lisa, its all BULLSHIT. Lisa Grant was my counsler, she is the best counsler I've ever had. I had Jessie (who amounted to jack), And Bob, (yes he did have counselies, he was a very bad one at that. Bob manipulating my parent out of more money than 99% of any other parent on that campus. Bob has screwed parents (and students for that matter) royally. He thought he could get away with it. I guess it all came back on him. I was shall I say one of the more rebelious kids at this school. This did not stop stop the physical abuse from Dave Glueharff, Joe Eggelston, Sean Kelly, And Bob himself. Because of a situation I have had permenant neck problems ever since. I don't want to see a charge for all this. I want to see Bob go to a Federal Penatentery for all this. He has scamed millions. If he shall get off of everything, he is spitting in the face of any government autority. This includes the judge who may think he is not guilty in all this. I was screwed cause "Wellspring Academy." Look at how we lived for instance. The dorm I was in had black mold growing in it. The one who decided to cover it up with white paint and let it slid was paid to a ridiciouls extent. I worked in the kitchen, the kids were I would say malfeed about the last 4 weeks. I served the shit, I know how much we were suppose to give out 85% of the time we ran out. I know that the meat we had cause a great sickness that was spread out in the dorms one night. It's amazing no one got sick from the spoiled meat. The schooling, I believe it was one teacher that was certified to teach. You cannot be taught from someone who cannot teach. The "principle" was not even certified to be in her position. Shall I explain more? I believe not because when he goes to jail that will be his consequence. Would it not have been for Lisa, I would never have gotten out of "Wellspring." Bob was very mad at Lisa when I left. My parents were scamed by Bob. I still think they are. Thank you Bob, because of you me and my parents will never be able to live in the same house because of "Wellspring." The rumors about Lisa helping in getting the school shut down, are bullshit. If one counsler could have brought that school down then the kids could have a long time before Lisa. There were no roits ever at "Wellspring," if there had been it was probably stopped due to a threat from a few staff. So I shall end here, Bob you are a pitifull piece of shit. When you go to jail have fun, they WILL LOVE you.




[ This Message was edited by: Antigen on 2004-02-01 08:58 ]

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2004, 04:57:00 PM

This is a reply {To hell with Bob}
         Look you dumb ass since you dont know shit about anything,let me tell how it is.
Wellspring was an at risk school.(not a posh summer resort that some of you rich kids thought it should have been)Alot of different cases,yours like many was the results of Bob and staff trying to keep your sorry ass out of jail.Education programs that were offered didnt fail (you did)
A lot of students have gone on to make a good life for themselves.Your parents had the right to choose many different schools The money that your parents spent was not stole by Bob ,but wasted by you.
The part of your neck injury was a result of you acting stupid.your kind should be in prison!! not with students that wanted to better themselves.Its not Bobs  fault that you cant live at home its yours. you need to grow up and get a life. stop blaming other people for your actions :wave:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2004, 11:01:00 PM

Quote

On 2004-01-25 13:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

" This is a reply {To hell with Bob}

         Look you dumb ass since you dont know shit about anything,let me tell how it is.

Wellspring was an at risk school.(not a posh summer resort that some of you rich kids thought it should have been)Alot of different cases,yours like many was the results of Bob and staff trying to keep your sorry ass out of jail.Education programs that were offered didnt fail (you did)

A lot of students have gone on to make a good life for themselves.Your parents had the right to choose many different schools The money that your parents spent was not stole by Bob ,but wasted by you.

The part of your neck injury was a result of you acting stupid.your kind should be in prison!! not with students that wanted to better themselves.Its not Bobs  fault that you cant live at home its yours. you need to grow up and get a life. stop blaming other people for your actions :wave: "

Fuck you.

They have to give people *trials* before they go to prison.

You lunatics lock people up with no legal recourse at all to have a responsible, disinterested person evaluate whether the kid really needs to be locked up or not, and then you abuse them and say it's *their* fault.

I repeat, fuck you.

That kid would have been better off on the street than with you loonies---because on the street abuse is only *probable*---not a *certainty*.

You want to kick your kid out, fine, kick your kid out.  If the neighbors, or friends, or grandparents, or other relatives want to take the kid in and the law has nothing on which to convict the kid, let the kid get a job and become an emancipated minor.

Most of these psycho parents want their kids *locked up* somewhere that's away, not just "out of the house"---if they just wanted the kid out of the house, they'd tell the kid in advance--"You have a week to find friends, neighbors, or relatives to take you in or we'll ship you off."

90% of the time, the kid could find someplace to live within that week.

If the kid belonged in prison, the juvenile justice system would put him there.  YOu bastards are not locking up kids who "belong" in prison, you bastards are locking up kids who you could *never* get a conviction on just because you're fucking control freaks who want them locked up.

What?  You say you're not?  Yeah, right.  Any parent who is *not* a fucking control freak who wanted the kid out would give the kid a week to find someone else to live with and *only* send the kid off if he/she was still there a week later.

Kids who just don't get along with their parents are the reason we have emancipated minor laws in the first place.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2004, 11:30:00 PM

id just thought id say HI........hah yall are all crazy this is joe ray by the way,,,,,,,well i mean i didnt like wellspring but i was never abused. that is some stupid ass lie im sorry but no kid was ever abused if you got restrained it is because you deserved it. and i mean like isaid i didnt like it there but shit it helped me out somewhat im not in trouble no more and i mean shit i hated it when i was theere and im not saying the school was perfect but it wasnt all that bad but now that im out and i am grown i have alot of responseibilitys and bills and shit like that sometimes i wish i could be back there were i had nothing to worry about but marching and school work. if any of you have a problem with what i said you can email me or instant message me [email protected]

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2004, 12:40:00 AM

Joe - doesn't matter which program a kid is in, yours, or others - it's easier to cry abuse than to do the inner work to make a better life for themselves.  Some would rather be in the juvenile system, or be a runaway, or be in control of their parents, than do the hard work.  Hell, these kids abuse themselves, programs don't.  Every once in awhile you might have a staff person that doesn't like their job and could do something, but they are always caught and fired, and this doesn't happen very often.  The school teachers in the school system have said and done worse to kids that don't fit the mold.  That's why a lot of the kids feel like shit anyway.  It's usually not the parents, but the teachers.

Teens are defiant, they are wired that way.  It's when people outside the family tell the parents their kid is "defective" in some way because they don't like their class, or their grades are low.  Some even go to the extreme of telling the parents to put their kid on ADD meds to be compliant.  That's abuse and it happens a thousand times a day to thousands of kids.

Thank goodness there are programs that see these kids as worthwhile and good and help them find that out for themselves.  I know nothing of Wellspring, but it sounds like the same old same old from a program I am familiar with.  

My heartfelt acknowledgment to you for the life you have created for yourself.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2004, 05:50:00 PM

You program shills can fuck off and die.

You're as loony as the Moonies, the lot of you.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2004, 05:52:00 PM

Quote

On 2004-01-25 20:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"id just thought id say HI........hah yall are all crazy this is joe ray by the way,,,,,,,well i mean i didnt like wellspring but i was never abused. that is some stupid ass lie im sorry but no kid was ever abused if you got restrained it is because you deserved it. and i mean like isaid i didnt like it there but shit it helped me out somewhat im not in trouble no more and i mean shit i hated it when i was theere and im not saying the school was perfect but it wasnt all that bad but now that im out and i am grown i have alot of responseibilitys and bills and shit like that sometimes i wish i could be back there were i had nothing to worry about but marching and school work. if any of you have a problem with what i said you can email me or instant message me [email protected]"

If your message is an example of the spelling and grammar skills one learns in these "schools," I'll pass.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2004, 08:05:00 PM

Hi
all you wellspring boys dont you mess all the people and staff at wellspring come on   you know you do. let us hear from you   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Therion on January 26, 2004, 10:02:00 PM

Quote

On 2004-01-25 20:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"id just thought id say HI........hah yall are all crazy this is joe ray by the way,,,,,,,well i mean i didnt like wellspring but i was never abused. that is some stupid ass lie im sorry but no kid was ever abused if you got restrained it is because you deserved it. and i mean like isaid i didnt like it there but shit it helped me out somewhat im not in trouble no more and i mean shit i hated it when i was theere and im not saying the school was perfect but it wasnt all that bad but now that im out and i am grown i have alot of responseibilitys and bills and shit like that sometimes i wish i could be back there were i had nothing to worry about but marching and school work. if any of you have a problem with what i said you can email me or instant message me [email protected]"

Too bad they didnt teach you how to spell in there. Idiot :wave:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 29, 2004, 04:25:00 PM

Dear folks,

 I edited out the last names of these people at the request of someone claiming to be one of them. Antigen would not have done such a thing and we can not be obliged to make similar edits in the future.



We now return you to your regularly scheduled flaming.....

Quote

On 2004-01-25 11:16:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Ok, first all the news about Lisa, its all BULLSHIT. Lisa Grant was my counsler, she is the best counsler I've ever had. I had Jessie (who amounted to jack), And Bob, (yes he did have counselies, he was a very bad one at that.

-------------The rest cut to save space-------

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: jfksdafjkldsa on January 29, 2004, 07:34:00 PM

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[ This Message was edited by: johna10093 on 2004-02-01 14:04 ]

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Antigen on February 01, 2004, 12:11:00 PM

As a matter of fact, Antigen is back for the moment and has restored the post in question to it's original glory.

Sorry, folks, the real world outside of your private prisons doesn't work exactly as you may think. Please read the terms of use (first item in the FAQ list, linked to at the top of the menu to the left) and/or any of a number of precedent setting cases involving unmoderated, open online fora.

If you feel so strongly about anything posted anonymously on the net, then go after the author(s). Mean time, why get all bent out of shape about what some "druggie" anon has posted on a "druggie" website? Who, that you care about, would put any stock whatever in any of it?

Personally, I don't know one way or the other. You're a stranger to me and so are the ppl who's posts you're complaining about. But please don't ever call my phone again and bother my family over the content of these fora. If the site is down or you have some difficulty figuring out how to use it, then call or write us. That's our area of responsibility here. If you just don't like what ppl are saying, then you may argue the point, ignore it or start your own damned website.

The overwhelming majority of people have more than the average (mean) number of legs.  
-- E. Grebenik

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2004, 02:40:00 PM

:flame:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 12:00:00 AM

so who are you i was there in 1999 :???:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on February 28, 2004, 10:16:00 AM

:smile:  :smile:  :smile: I am was from up state new york. I also was the second oldest student. Sorry i dont just throw out my name so i gave some hints. First name starts with "p". Now who are you :???:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on February 28, 2004, 07:54:00 PM

:flame: . He has is own thing doing a take off from wellspring in NC. Was he a liscend in VA :???:  :???:  :???:  :???:  :???:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 23, 2004, 12:14:00 PM

What's up, I'm a former "student" of this former "school" and I can confidently say it was the biggest fraud I've ever been a part of.  Of course, loathe to say, I was on the undesirable part of the fraud.  I find it downright disturbing to hear about Bob's 2.5 million dollar annual revenue.  The kids lived in 3 small trailers, and 1 somewhat nicer lodge.  I was only there for 11 months, and as more kids came (thus more money) I saw nothing but degradation in our quality of life (food, housing, discipline), BUT I saw 4 or 5 staff members BUY NEW SUVS.  Calling this place an institution of learning (Academy?) is a flat out lie.  I all but dropped out of highschool half way through my junior year, and I knew far more about the topics these "Teachers" were "teaching".  I was less prepared for college after being at Wellspring than I was before.  At least my teachers gave me C's for not doing a damn thing in public school, not A+'s.
Can we talk about our "College counselor" for a minute?  Sure, let's do that.  There were a select few of us who wanted to go to college after this place, and even fewer of us who had the brainpower to actually do it.  However, I for one didn't know anything about picking the right college.  I'd never thought about it, I didn't know where to start.  Valorie Cook, the ever vigilant financier cum career counselor, extended herself so far as to hand out college brochures from her bookshelf.  That's it.  The criteria for what brochures to hand out? "what state do you want to be in?"  And what about scholarship?  I was a National Merit Scholarship finalist, I had a 1330 SAT score, she didn't even mention scholarships to me.  I could have gotten a free ride through college.
After shoveling out 50 grand for this school, my parents were in no mood to pay for my college experience.  I lost 10,000 dollars going to
college.  My money.  Valorie (or was it my parents?) convinced me to enroll in an advanced Calculus class my first semester, seeing as how I did so well in the "precalculus" class I took at wellspring.  I've taken a class like that before.  I was in seventh grade, it was called algebra.  Needless to say, the calculus did not go so well.  Now, I can't blame my failure at college entirely on Wellspring, that would be juvenile.  But it's perfectly reasonable that a 50,000 dollar, one year education should be at least equal to a free one?  Am I right?  No?  Ok, maybe that's that "New World" thinking that Bob was talking about: Advertise, promise, charge.  Notice it doesn't include deliver.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 23, 2004, 03:20:00 PM

Valorie, by the way, was one Bob's overpaid nimrods who had enough money to buy a fully loaded brand new Chevy Tahoe.  MSRP?  Oh, it starts at only $39,000. Pfft.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2004, 03:13:00 PM

My son went to Wellspring for 18 months.I am not surprised by its closing and  I agree with most of the earlier posts. What I saw was the good caring counselers would not put up with Bob's B.S and went elsewere. My question for kids who attended Wellspring is- what about Sharron? Was she in on the fraud or was she duped along with the parents ?
 I got the impression she really cared about the kids and wanted to help them . I am curious  about your comments.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on April 15, 2004, 01:31:00 PM

I wrote the post previous to yours.  I don't really know about Sharon, I had almost no contact with her.  The kids that had been there longer than me all called her "momma" but I don't really know why, bob certainly wasn't "papa".  I really have no idea about sharon.  She was just kind of a quiet background figure.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2004, 12:37:00 PM

Anyone else receive this?

 
 
Please advise me of the whereabouts of Bob Gluhareff, if you would be so helpful.

J. Gaston B. Williams
Assistant United States Attorney
Eastern District of North Carolina
Raleigh, NC 27601

919-856-4530
1-800-538-1564

919-856-4849
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Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on May 13, 2004, 11:56:00 PM

thanks Greta

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on May 14, 2004, 12:31:00 AM

Lets get this staight, overpaid staff @ wellspring? Are you out of your mind.I worked there for two flippin years for 50.00 a week. just so I could read my name splatterd all over the back pages of some irrelevant website, by a bunch of whining little spoonfed, non functioning,socio-pathic flippin ashholes. Not one of you path walking golf cart driving former jr. staff members were even born with any kind of sack. Grow the flip up, and get on with you insignificant little lives.Remember I was never there for your self asteem. And if you ever feel the need for some of my attention, St. petersburg Fl. is where I`m at,come visit,I`ll repay that generous salary that I made while living in the anal cleft of amorica. I`m in the phone book for all of you former over-medicated, under-diagnosed,future trans-sexuals. Bring it on.
                                 Signed
              new truck over cliff driver

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on May 14, 2004, 09:31:00 AM

Quote

On 2004-05-13 21:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Lets get this staight, overpaid staff @ wellspring? Are you out of your mind.I worked there for two flippin years for 50.00 a week. just so I could read my name splatterd all over the back pages of some irrelevant website, by a bunch of whining little spoonfed, non functioning,socio-pathic flippin ashholes. Not one of you path walking golf cart driving former jr. staff members were even born with any kind of sack. Grow the flip up, and get on with you insignificant little lives.Remember I was never there for your self asteem. And if you ever feel the need for some of my attention, St. petersburg Fl. is where I`m at,come visit,I`ll repay that generous salary that I made while living in the anal cleft of amorica. I`m in the phone book for all of you former over-medicated, under-diagnosed,future trans-sexuals. Bring it on.

                                 Signed

              new truck over cliff driver"

My, my, but somebody has some anger and hostility issues.

Just the type of person I'd want around *my* kid.  Not.

Should your local authorities send "Escorts" to get you, in the middle of the night, to take you out in the boonies of Utah where future public school custodial staff can make you hike out in the middle of nowhere, in the blazing sun, with nutritionally inadequate food and not enough water---all so you can "work through" your anger issues and evaluate the choices that have resulted in your being there?

Sure.  Why not?

After all, it has a 90 percent plus "success rate" with kids.  Imagine how much more tranquil your community would be if your local authorities could insist that you work through the problems of your angry, resentful, hostile self that you're inflicting on the people around you in the community.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2004, 03:21:00 AM

Quote

On 2004-05-13 21:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Lets get this staight, overpaid staff @ wellspring? Are you out of your mind.I worked there for two flippin years for 50.00 a week. just so I could read my name splatterd all over the back pages of some irrelevant website, by a bunch of whining little spoonfed, non functioning,socio-pathic flippin ashholes. Not one of you path walking golf cart driving former jr. staff members were even born with any kind of sack. Grow the flip up, and get on with you insignificant little lives.Remember I was never there for your self asteem. And if you ever feel the need for some of my attention, St. petersburg Fl. is where I`m at,come visit,I`ll repay that generous salary that I made while living in the anal cleft of amorica. I`m in the phone book for all of you former over-medicated, under-diagnosed,future trans-sexuals. Bring it on.

                                 Signed

              new truck over cliff driver"

Oh, Ok, and who the fuck are you?  Brandon?  if you're brandon, the half retarded piece of shit who was more immature than the greenest faggot to be dragged onto wellspring premises, than you werent even worth 50 a week.  I saw 12 year old dipshits who'd been there for over a year reprimand your idiotic ass.  You're a bum, nothing more.  You had a place to live there.  Add that to free meals, 50 bucks a week, and getting the satisfaction of having control over kids whose parents threw them out like garbage, and I'd say you got a pretty sweet deal. You're worth less than the shit I flush down the toilet every day.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2004, 03:24:00 AM

The value of which, I'm sorry to add, is less than 50 dollars a week.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on June 30, 2004, 04:03:00 PM

You know it was mikes drunk ass that drove his new truck off a cliff. Brandon is just another sick kid with rich parents that Slob took advantage of. Mike dont be mad at the dumb ass kids that were there, be mad at the one that used, manipulated, and screwed you like he screwed everyone else he came into contact with. You did all the work and got treated like shit for 50 bucks a week. that sucks! There were others that got paid high dollar, but they had to sleep with him, maybe you should have tried that.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2004, 07:25:00 PM

lol nice.  Who's mike, I don't remember him.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2004, 11:40:00 PM

So all the staff at Wellsping were underpaid and Bob was raking in the bucks! Bob's problem goes a lot deeper than fraud and money...he is a meglomaniac who played on parent's fears and student's insecurities. My wife and I have forgiven Bob for his manipulation and deceit, so I'm not writing this to defame or slander anyone. The record needs to be set straight...on all accounts and Bob should face legal and professional scruitinity. My observation was that Bob was a master salesmen: your best friend when he needed your money, but also the most cruel / mean-spirited person one could ever imagine from an Edgar Allen Poe poem or the tales of the Marquis de Sade.

His fanatical control...even down to setting a lighting mood for the  Saturday night " devotion sessions " ( his chair / throne was in the spotlight in a darkened room ) ... is/was so extreme that it cannot be exaggerated.
Now why would a parent, who recognized this , ever allow his/her son(s) to be a part of this charade? A fellow parent said it best for me...he said he didn't have his son enrolled for Bob's benefit...or because of Bob..but rather because his son was depressed and suicidal...and he felt his son was " safe " at Wellspring! No fear of a midnight call from the police that his son was dead...or " missing ". He got his son home as soon as possible...against Bob's protests that he was putting his son's life in jeporday

Contrary to what a few posters have said...we parents did not throw away our sons away like garbage...far from it...many of us sacrificed...even to the point of breaking.

Unlike Bob who filed bankrupcy, we paid our bills even if it meant taking a second or third mortgage.

I can personally attest to having paid more than $65,000 without dipping into my richly filled coffers...but from my hard-earned life savings!

Even now after several years, I'm not back to where I was before Bob's scam! And the worse part is that Bob ( and Chris ) didn't fulfill their part of the contract. When Bob went off the deepend in early 1999 with the rapid growth, military style marching and his run for public office...he put my son in jail! For what? Assaulting Chris & Bob! I don't think so.

Bob inferred many times that he had the local police, judges, and authorities in the palm of his hand...so you had better not contest his judgement of what was best...or maybe things would get worse...maybe even prison!

We arranged the release of our son and have been suffering since with the psychological effects on our son...lack of respect for authority and rejection of God!

Bob is a liar, thief, and a fraud. He will stand before God on judgement day..just like all of us will. May God have mercy on his soul!

I'm not including my name simply because it really doesn't matter...not because I've got an axe to grind or am hiding from other's criticisim. Let me sign off as a grateful parent who got his son out of Bob's evil influence " in-time ".

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2004, 10:24:00 AM

Another tragic story, I am sorry for your painful experiences and will be praying with you for the continued healing of your son and family. My family was/is still deeply hurt by our experiences with bob, and might not ever financially recover. God bless you for sharing your insight. There are unfortunately hundreds of stories just like yours and hopefully your strength will give courage to others to come forward and contact the proper authorities and stop this evil. He has opened a new therapy office in Raleigh.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 24, 2004, 11:54:00 PM

Thanks for the advice,but his Gi was enough.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2004, 11:05:00 AM

I have heard a rumor that wellspring has reopened? Is this possible?  Is Cindy facing charges?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2004, 07:46:00 PM

What do you know about Chris Christenbury?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2004, 08:57:00 AM

I have heard that bob and Sharon moved off the farm and into their sons house near Danville. You can look up where they went to bankruptcy court over a small part of the land. This was several months ago and I have not heard any resent information other than the office he maintains in Raleigh. I know in the past he has managed to pay people off, threaten, and sue anyone that tells the truth about his wicked ways. Then when things quiet down he reemerges with a bigger ego believing that he will never be held accountable, and continuing this vicious cycle of predatory behavior. I pray that this time is final and he will be unable to reopen; but who knows. Does anyone know any resent information about investigations into Bob, Cindy, or anyone, or the current status of the farm? Is it for sale? Thanks to all

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2004, 10:08:00 AM

I do remember at graduation 2002, at Wellspring Academy, US Senator of Virginia, George Allen and Virginia Attorney General, Jerry Kilgore both spoke about "Bob's program could be used as a great model for the commonwealth of Virginia".  What are these two politicians saying now?  Bob does seem to surround hinself with influencial people, a cause for concern? Someone from Roanoke, va.  said they had been told the school was reopening.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2004, 10:10:00 AM

I have been so see him.  Go to covecreekcenter.com

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2004, 06:32:00 PM

What do you suggest we do?  My son was there in 2001, he is doing great now but there is a sadness whenever the phrase "Wellspring Academy" is mentioned.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2004, 03:22:00 PM

Kill the fucker and bury him in a shroud worthy of such a man.

(A pile of shit will do)

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Antigen on July 31, 2004, 12:12:00 PM

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On 2004-07-26 15:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What do you suggest we do?  My son was there in 2001, he is doing great now but there is a sadness whenever the phrase "Wellspring Academy" is mentioned."

One of the greatest gifts my father ever gave me was a simple apology. Why not ask him why mention of the Program makes him so sad and find out if you have anything to apologize for. Or if maybe he's needlessly frightened that you'd send him back if he told you. I mean, you wouldn't send him back, would you? In most of these programs, they really hammer it into your head that, if you try to leave or "manipulate" (i.e. tell your parents anything less than glowing about what went on there) then you'll wind up right back at the beginning.

I internalized this so thoroughly that, 6 years later, when my daughter was 4 and I was working and paying my bills, I almost sucker punched my employer one day when he startled me by calling me by my legal name. No one but the IRS and the Program ever called my by that name. So, for an instant, I thought it was Program people coming to take me away and I was halfway through what would have been a really effective round house before coming to my senses. Turned out, the man was only there to award me a gift certificate as employee of the month for cleaning the shop so thoroughly that some new investors were very impressed.

A lot of Program vets relate similar bouts of fear. If your son is living w/ that, anything you can do to allay it would probably not hurt.

Scoundrels are predictable, but you're a man of honor and that frightens me.
Robert Heinlein, Glory Road.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2004, 07:51:00 PM

As I understand it, the former Wellspring Academy property was auctioned off into 3 parcels.  I don't believe Bob bought any of them.  Kind of hard to do when you're bankrupt but then again, you know Bob.

I'm very interested in hearing any details on Bob starting a new facility.  If anyone knows anything about it please post.  This guy needs to never have that kind of opportunity again.  Perhaps he's trying to get a job at Enron.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2004, 08:54:00 AM

sad but true;
heard yesterday that someone saw bob and he was bragging how he got some rich parent to buy the farm and give it back to him. he says he is now doing "retreats" on the property.
it is hard to know if it is true, but at least that is what he is telling people.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2004, 06:50:00 PM

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if Bob was doing that and it wouldn't surprise me either if he was bragging about it.  I hope the investigators have their eye on him.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2004, 08:45:00 PM

The Wellspring Academy property was sold at public auction May  2004 in 5 parcels.  2 parcels were bought by lumber companies.  1 parcel was bought by a local "land baron" with no apparent association to Bob Gluahreff.  1 parcel was bought by a man named Charles Grantham and the last parcel was bought by 6 people together.  They are 3 married couples named Charles and Sharon Ballard, Robert Jr and Wanda Potts, and Steven and Lori James.  The 5 parcels sold for $797,000 total.  

June 28, 2004 Charles Grantham "sold" half of the land he bought in May to Charles Ballard and Robert Potts Jr for the recorded price of $10.  

August 6, 2004 he "sold" the other half of the land he bought in May to Charles Ballard and James Mercer for the recorded price of $10.

As of today, nearly 200 acres of land including the house and buildings and 17 acres across the road are owned by:
Charles and Sharon Ballard
Robert Jr. and Wanda Potts
Steven and Lori James
James Mercer.

Cindy Thomas's house is vacant and for sale for $225,00.

This information is recorded at the Halifax County Courthouse.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2004, 09:29:00 AM

Bob Gluhareff & Assoc Retreat 919-870-5075 308 W Millbrook Rd # C Raleigh NC 27609

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2004, 08:25:00 AM

For those following this crazy story:
Charles Ballard and Sharon Ballard (deceased) are the parents of Sharon Gluhareff. (Bob?s wife)
Charles is at least 85 years old and has been in declining mental and physical health for 10 years or more. He has cerebral palsy.
So somehow Bob is back in control of the farm. (Told you this is crazy)
Where did Mr Ballard get money to by his part? (Not a wealthy man) Bobs hidden money?
Why was the recorded price 10$ (To avoid taxes? was more paid in cash? Etc.)
Well that is what I know; does anyone know addresses phone numbers or even who the other ?investors? are? They should be enlightened as to the character of the man they are dealing with, and the consequences of aligning oneself with the sinking ship that is Bob Gluhareff.. BE AWARE!
The truth is that it will only be a matter of time before he screws over these people like he has screwed everyone else he has had dealings with.

INVESTIGATORS PLEASE PAY ATTENTION!  WHERE HAS THE MONEY GONE???????

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2004, 08:51:00 AM

I just found out and am sad to report that grandpa, Charles Ballard, died in May of this year. This is very sad and my heart goes out to Sharon Gluhareff.

BUT THIS LEAVES THE QUESTION OF HOW CAN SHARON AND CHARLES BALLARD BUY PROPERTY? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHATS UP?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2004, 03:54:00 PM

jijiji

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2004, 04:02:00 PM

I have been following this for some time. Many people have good questions and valid concerns. Others seem hateful and uninformed. The answers you are looking for are out there... It would take one person to make a phone call to any private investigator and your questions will be answered. The "dirt" is there. If any of you are serious about this man, serious about finding your justice, just look. He did not hide it that well.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2004, 06:32:00 PM

seems to me that with all this "talk", "rumor" and "innuendo" that after 17 months since wellspring closed, SOMETHING, absolutely anything would have come up by now.
instead, grandparents, parents, and former staff and students are out of money, out of jobs, and out of optimism and hope while bobG and lisaC are in raliegh with a thriving (?) practice, untouched and untarnished by all the damage that was created. bankruptcy? what did that mean to him? not much when he still drives his same 40 grand vehicle and has a building open for business on creedmoor in raleigh with a "counseling" shingle hung out. not much when he has founded charges of child abuse and child neglect on him by the danville child protection unit, that were upheld in the first appeal he filed. the second appeal is awaiting court in november. not much when he has his attorney (freshour, out of bennett's office in halifax) subpeona confidential records of the former students of wellspring, and at the cost of a counselor going to jail for refusal to turn them over, STILL OBTAINS their private records.

not much of anything at all. bobG counted on people not fighting. he counted on people giving up. he counting on intimidating people into silence.

michael moore of farenheit 9/11 and bowling for columbine fame has been contacted as wellspring, unfortunately, is not an isolated incident. families and kids all over the country have been victims of charlatans like bob gluhareff for years.

hopefully, it will eventually reap what it has sown.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2004, 11:06:00 PM

It's strange seeing a reflection of what could have been you.  At  one point something colossal happens in your life.  It's such a great and powerful hit, that you lose every connection to your past.  Every attempt to dig up the past unleashes a furious tempest, so you steal glances of it from aside.  It's like opening pandora's box.  LOL*.  and unleashing a horrible fury that sneaks up on you AND CRACKS YOUR SKULL OPEN, RIPS AT YOUR BRAIN AND TRIES TO REPLACE IT.  THEY CAN'T DO IT THOUGH, THEY TRY AND THEY TRY, THEY CRUDELY RIP AT YOUR MIND, BUT THE CORD JUST WON'T BREAK.  THEY CUT AT IT AND TEAR AT IT, TERRIFY YOU TIRELESSLY. But you don't change.  You just fear.


By pandora, I'm referring to my Mother, who had been cheating on my dad for years until she sent me to wellspring.  And by box?  Well, I'm talking about...the cooter festival.  The irony?  I didn't even know it at the time.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2004, 03:32:00 AM

RALEIGH NC? I live there!

What are they running here?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2004, 09:58:00 PM

The Lord will not let that dirty old man get away with the hell on earth he has so graciously dealt to so many. He WILL reap what he has sown. The Bible tells us that over and over again. We all need to pray daily that the Lord takes him out of business and out of the lives of innocent victims - that he not be allowed to hurt anyone else.  Please pray - every day.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2004, 10:00:00 PM

Where do you think Cindy Stanga is?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2004, 10:03:00 PM

Bob Gluhareff belongs in prison - if only Marissa Stanga would come forward and tell.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2004, 10:09:00 PM

He has opened another "counseling" office on Creedmoor Rd in Raleigh. Where did he get the money to start it if he was going BK and couldn't afford to give the parents back their money? Fishy - don't you think? It all went down at the same time. We saw him with loads of cash he carried around in a bag. He had a private stash!!

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2004, 10:13:00 PM

Someone needs to talk Marissa Stanga into coming forward. She must really be suffering keeping all "that" inside for all these years. Her sister Cindy should be ashamed for letting "it" happen. Shame on you Cindy.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Nihilanthic on September 29, 2004, 10:20:00 AM

Counceling on Creedmoor Road... oh really? :grin:

I happen to live in Raleigh too. Anything I could do?

My email is http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... miamithem' (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/040303082X/circlofmiamithem') target='_new'>H. G. Wells

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2004, 01:54:00 PM

I am a former patient/employee of Wellspring from 1995-1996.  I just found out through a collection agency that someone from Wellspring took out a corporate cell phone account using my social security number.  The account was opened on July 19, 2001 and ended in February 2004. Now my credit is flagged, and I'm trying to close on a home loan within the month.  Has this happened to anyone else?  If not, it may in the future.  Be vigilent and check your credit report often.  I am livid and in a rage over this.  I had put that part of my life behind me for 8 years now until yesterday.  This fraud is being investigated, and I will not rest until a prosecution is made.  Did they really think they would get away with this and that I wouldn't find out eventually?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2004, 05:48:00 PM

stanga is cindy thomas' maiden name. she started at wellspring with that name and then got married.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 05, 2004, 06:05:00 PM

Does anyone have any information on that place on Creedmoor road or not?

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 08, 2004, 08:15:00 PM

Bob Gluhareff & Assoc Retreat 919-870-5075 308 W Millbrook Rd # C Raleigh NC 27609

(it's in the yellow pages)

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2004, 03:53:00 PM

he need to be brought to justice and have his ass handed to him :skull:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 12, 2004, 04:32:00 PM

any specifics about what they do? what their business provides as a service? What kind of clients they'd try to see?

He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
--Author: Sir William Drummond

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2004, 05:58:00 PM

I thought I heard that Cindy Stagna aka Cindy Thomas was working at Belk's in Danville.  Who is this Marissa Stagna?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2004, 06:50:00 PM

cindy is working at belk's in south boston. bob's business in raliegh is a counseling business. he solicits couples, adults and children.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2004, 06:00:00 PM

gosh, what a bunch of hogwash has been going on for months about Bob - at least get your facts straight folks.  Charlie Ballard WAS Sharon's father - he died of Parkinsons/Alzheimers 5 months ago - Charles Ballard is Sharon's brother who is a land developer and he and some others bought a portion of the property to develop and build homes, etc.
Believe me, I DO know what's going on and it's a shame that so many untruths have been posted these past months.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2004, 10:30:00 AM

Thank you for clarifying who owns what. Now are you saying that Charles Ballard (brother of Sharon Gluhareff) who lives in Florida bought the land to develop in rural Virginia?  OK
Why was there a strange money dealing with land and bankruptcy court $797,000 total, to being sold to Sharon?s Gluhareffs brother for $10, or is this also not true?
You can see why there is questions? regarding this matter considering Bob owes clients parents hundreds of thousands of dollars and is claiming that he is ?unable? to repay them. And he has been seen bragging how he was able to manage to keep the land.

It is a shame that there have been untruths printed about this whole situation, but the real shame lies on Bob Gluhareff, for continuing to be arrogant, stubborn, and unwilling to repent for sins committed. The people posting on this and other websites complaining of Bobs misdeeds are not out to get him, but quit the contrary, They (WE) have been hurt and taken advantage of personally by him so we write not out of hate but out of pain. We need to express our pain for ourselves and our children and in doing so warn others so they do not get hurt in the same way.

If you are personally involved with Mr. Gluhareff then in your heart you know I am speaking the truth and you have seen him hurt the people he claims to want to help. Every time through the years (been sued 4 times fraud+ sexual misconduct that I know about) He will aggressively try to intimidate the victim with litigation (suing them+any friends family) Then claim to the world that he is the one being victimized. People that continually hurt others create patterns of abuse and in this case the patterns are clear. If you chose to blindly believe that Bob is the victim and do nothing to help those he has devastated then you are equally responsible, and will answer for that in this life or the next. At some point you have to ask the critical questions that lead to the truth. Why are all these people ?lying? about Bob? What do they stand to gain? What is the truth? Why does this continually happen to bob through out the years?
At some point you will see the answer Robert Surge Gluhareff is an abusive man that society needs to be protected from.
God Bless you on your journey, Truth is not in word but in actions. Be careful

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2004, 08:13:00 AM

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Bob Gluhareff lives at 4121 Birch Elmo Rd,753-3996

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2004, 09:34:00 AM

who does the money from these sales go to?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2004, 09:40:00 PM

thanks for writing - first off, get Bob's name correct - it's Robert SERGE Gluhareff.
Yes, I am personally involved and have known him for many, many years and do know much the public doesn't know.  First off, Sharon's brother had to pay almost $800.000 for a portion of the property and it belongs to the brother and some other folks who are hoping to build a home development -a gated community on some of the prior Wellspring property.
Do you have any idea how many scholarships Bob and Sharon gave away over the years to kids who couldn't afford to come to Wellspring?  Try checking into that and you'll be surprised at their generosity.  I could go on and on but you won't believe me, I'm sure, so I do know that all of us will one day stand before Christ and will be accountable to each and every word/deed we did on this earth and yes, Bob will have to answer for many things, as we all do.  God bless you and I hope you can turn over your anger and pain to the Lord and realize that only HE will be doling out rewards and punishments.  God bless you sincerely.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2004, 10:15:00 PM

I too have known Bob and
Sharon for many many years.There are two sides to every story and mature people ought to realize such. Too much angry, untrue, foul mouthed and one sided stuff floating around on this site about Wellspring. Bob and Sharon helped many families and kids get their lives back in order without building up even a retirement fund for themselves. FORGET ABOUT A STASH! This I know beyond a doubt. In specific response to an earlier question about Sharon's sincerity....She is and always was the most genuine, loving all the kids, Christian in every act and deed, woman that ever graced the earth. Her heart breaks for the loss of oportunity to carry on this ministry. She was called "momma" for a very valid reason.Please know what you are talking about.. Thanks

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2004, 12:41:00 AM

The new owners get the money.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2004, 12:47:00 AM

I know the owners, that 10. is completely false, it must be a typo.
Furthermore, you can be assured that Bob Gluhareff will not be associated with the Birch Creek Plantation...
The new owners bought this land legally and with thier own money...

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2004, 09:19:00 PM

I understand your high regard for Sharon but I am currently working two jobs to pay off loans for an education that never occured.  If Bob obtained these high dollars from the sale of the farm why is their no reinbursement for services not rendered.  Just asking the question.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2004, 09:20:00 PM

Sorry it should be there not their

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2004, 09:48:00 PM

Bob did not get one penny from the sale of the farm. It all went to the bankrupcy court as there was a mortgage on the place for almost twice what the sale brought in. You guys should really do your homework before you speculate and draw conclusions.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 01, 2004, 05:57:00 PM

I am not speculating or concluding anything.  I am simply raising the question as to where the money (for education and board), that I paid in advance, went?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2004, 12:47:00 PM

why not take an ad out in the N&O telling people whos opened shop in thier city...

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2004, 02:25:00 PM

Punishment is not the goal, only to try and do what i can to prevent others from being hurt by Bob in the future.  I promise that I would rather forget everything bad that happened and move on, but he has proven that he is unwilling/unable to stop taking advantage of people in THEIR times of need. He has to stop hurting others. If you are involved in his life please help him to stop. This is all I care about concerning this issue.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2004, 10:00:00 PM

How do you KNOW that he has and is currently taking advantage of people? I have only known about people that he has helped. Maybe you are speculating!

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2004, 07:38:00 AM

he has hurt me and my family/ no speculation, read the news reports

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2004, 12:34:00 PM

and also my family and my son

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 04, 2004, 09:44:00 PM

The news reports only alledge financial hurts. What proven factual hurts are you talking about?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 04, 2004, 10:07:00 PM

are few  :???:
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Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2004, 12:52:00 PM

bob does not live on 4121 birch elmo rd.
bob is broke, making it, but broke. there was no stash, that he kept.  he is very very arrogant, and still acts like he owns the old wellspring farm, but he doesnt. he didn't recieve a penny for it.  he can't be half as smart as he thinks he is.  if he was he would of handled his money a lot differently.  like working on paying off some land or biuldings, etc.  before expanding his institution.  instead he mastered the art of financing more things, and made payments on everything.  he never really owned much.  but he acts like he does, b/c he is so cocky, and arrogant.  bottom line...he cannot manage money or the "wellspring institution" would not of shut down SO quickly, it was operating on a paycheck to paycheck basis.  that is why it shut down so quickly, when clients funds werent coming in.  the attitude that he is a big shot caught up with him.  the truth is there is wrong on both sides.  there is no doubt that bob and wellspring helped many people, there was no abuse, just angry punk kids who needed someone to keep them in line, and they are mad because they were kept somewhere that didnt put up with stuff their parents did.  there is also no doubt that bob kept parents money, and it was wrong.  they will never get it back.  you cant get blood from a stone. the staff was way overpaid and everything was financed,  it was a disaster waiting to happen. an insitution with that much money coming in should not of crumbled that quickly, the $$ was not handled correctly...plain and simple. what is ironic, is that people pay bob to council him, when it is him who needs to be counciled

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2004, 09:11:00 PM

Some of the staff were grossly overpaid.  Some were paid reasonably.  Some were grossly underpaid.  I know first hand.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2004, 10:26:00 AM

I'm so sorry that so many of you are in pain because of Bob Gluhareff.  He was once such a great counselor to kids.  I know, because I had him as a teacher/counselor in high school.  He listened to us when other adults would not.  He could always be counted on to be discreet, and honest in the advice he gave. He was a friend to those of us who were struggling with home lives that lacked guidance and sanity.  
I know I have not heard both sides, but I have heard enough.  I looked Bob up because now I have a daughter who is in need of a non-biased listening ear.  But thanks to all of you and the free flow of information online, I'll be looking elsewhere.  
What happened to you, Bob?  Where is the man I knew when I was a teen?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2004, 12:30:00 PM

BIG BOBBY G IS IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH BIRCH CREEK PLANATATION....THIS I HEARD IN MY EAR FROM CHARLES BALLARD HIMSELF...SEEMS OLD BOB WORKED HIMSELF RIGHT OUT OF WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD DEAL....HE TOOK HIS SON JOHN OUT WITH HIM...I JUST FEEL SORRY FOR SHARON G...SHE SEEMS LIKE SUCH A GOOD DOWN TO EARTH CHRISTIAN WOMAN...

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2004, 03:22:00 PM

"Jon"

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2004, 11:10:00 PM

Not very many people knew what acctually went on behind scenes, I was one of few who had personal contact with numerous staff members on the fact of why wellspring closed.  I will not comment who nor when, I will say 99% of what has been said went on.  There is more stuff that went on that no student will ever know, I was one student who was able to gain acess to inside conversation between Bob and both his sons.  Most of the staff didnt even know what was about to happen to them, yes they all got paid great i will tell you.  I have seen payroll slips for every staff except Bob himself, whose slip was somehow "edited" out.  No one there made under 350 a week.  They kitchen people were the only ones who got paid cheap, that is the people who originally cooked the food.  Now how shall I say Dave, Jenny, and a few others were paid an extreme amount.  Bob paid the people who know most dirt the most.  I personally have been involved in a few wrong-doings, those of which I had my life threatened over by numerous staff, one of which said they would help me in court, now I know that all this Wellspring jargon is kicking up old dust, maybe it needs to be, he did wrong.  I've been in 12 different boarding schools, rehabs, hospitals, bootcamps, you name it.  I have never seen one like Bobs, it was the most unorgainized, unintelligent boarding school ive been to.  Not to bash Bob, where he sent me after the school closed was not to pleasing either, I guess thats why now I have 2 criminal charges on me, along with other bullshit that still haunts me, lucky I knew some people who could get me a job, if not id still be in the hole.  Bob was a great help at first, I left the school and then came back, it was even worse, 5 months after I got back, the school shut down, leaving me and my parent up shit creek, I couldnt live at home and Bob supposedly said the school would be open to "help kids" as long as he could and sharon would take over....  Its all been said and done now.  The event is gone, in the past, dont you wonder what the big man has to say about all this?  it seems most people want to know a few things and he wont talk without a lawyer.  I saw him after the school closed and he looked the other way, i also saw his son, who would not even speak to me, not even to say merry christmas.  what a big man he is. anyways i know the heats down now, maybe some how this can reach bob and he can comment and apoligize for all the wrong doings that have gone on.  farwell and goodbye to wellspring and all students who i became good friends with and then we all just up and left.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2004, 06:25:00 PM

hi kevin.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2005, 08:59:00 PM

hi Matt

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2005, 12:47:00 PM

He did not take Jon "with him".  They were both told that they no longer have jobs with Birch Creek Plantation.  Bob was trying to ruin Birch Creek Plantation just as he did with Wellspring (by using funds unwisely).  He thought he was going to have the power and learned otherwise. They also "basically stole" items that they claimed as theirs from the new owners, selling things and keeping the money.  When the new owners bought the farm from the bankruptcy court they were kind enough to open it back up to them which their kindness cost them money as well.  If anyone else had bought the farm Jon and Bob would of had NO access to anything.  ::argue::

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 08:45:00 AM

well i still think i have a right to know what happened to all our records and transcripts when we attenend collage there..?          


Kidd from 1999.......... :silly:  :silly:
YA OUT THERE dj :em:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2005, 04:38:00 PM

Cindy and Valorie have them.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2005, 06:57:00 AM

Where are Cindy and Valorie?  Where is Bob?  And Dave, and Jon, and Joe, and Sean, and Lisa, and Patrick, and Laurietta, and everybody else?  What's going on at Wellspring?  Was it really sold to Sharon's brother?  Is Bob still talking about opening it back up?  What about all the investigations that were supposed to be going on?  Does anybody know anything about these people and their activities?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2005, 08:58:00 AM

And will Laura marry Luke, or is she just using him to make Scorpio jealous?  And will Helena take a 43rd husband, or not?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2005, 09:08:00 AM

Quote

On 2005-03-16 05:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"And will Laura marry Luke, or is she just using him to make Scorpio jealous?  And will Helena take a 43rd husband, or not?"

 :lol:  :lol:

What will Scotty do?  Will Bobbi and Dr. Noah Drake EVER get together?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2005, 04:49:00 PM

Is there anyone out there that remebers the good...

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2005, 06:02:00 AM

i remember the good. it ended when greta, brady, marcus and bunny were gone.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 28, 2005, 12:17:00 AM

which lisa do you inquire about? there were two ya know.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2005, 09:34:00 PM

what's it too ya?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2005, 03:28:00 AM

My parents sent me a link to this site. I was one of the first inmates at the farm. I don't have time to go into datails, but I was there for over 2.5 years.
It only took me 10 years to get over the anxiety problems I developed there, and they still bother me.
The good thing is, once I convinced my parents of the truth, we are closer than ever.

I'm not sure how often people keep up with this site, but one night I will sit down and share a  little.
I am happy to see that it wasnt all in my head, and now there is genuine proof for my parents!

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2005, 06:44:00 AM

Thank you for posting.  You'd be surprised who keeps up with this site, including all the agencies investigating Bob Gluhareff and the goings on at the former Wellspring Academy.

There is a bill in committee in the House of Representatives, HR 1738 End Institutional Abuse Against Children Act.  It was just introduced 2 weeks ago.  It proposes to regulate all these residential "teen help" facilities and attaches criminal penalties to abusing children at them.  Write your congressman and ask him or her to vote for this bill.  There are a lot of websites that will put an email through to your congressman.  I wrote mine last week and already got a written reply telling me he is "favorably inclined toward this legislation" and awaits the committee report.

I'm sorry for all of us who had a Wellspring experience.  What was it like early on?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2005, 08:23:00 PM

http://www.house.gov/writerep/ (http://www.house.gov/writerep/)

You can write your rep here.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2005, 04:16:00 PM

Does anybody out there know if any of the investigations are ever going to turn anything up or all they all just petered out?  It has been more than 2 years since Wellspring closed and Bob Gluhareff just walked away.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 09:47:00 AM

i went to wellspring i graduated in 2002 and i can tell u some stories  i was in the operations  and jr staff   shoot me and email  [email protected]

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2005, 01:35:00 PM

anyone remember when the girls program shut down?
anyone remember why?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2005, 09:50:00 PM

I just discovered this site today while trying to find out what happened to Wellspring.  I was at Wellspring in the mid-90's as a patient and staff-member.  It was small then with only a handful of staff members and residents.  I never observed any of the bad behavior by staff or by Bob described and insinuated on this site.  I believe that Bob had a great concept... take troubled kids out of their tumultuous environment and bring them to an isolated farm for intensive counseling, farm work (Lord knows  today's kids need this),  and personalized education.  Maybe Bob was arrogant at times, but he had a lot of excellent qualities also.  Sharon was great, and had a loving spirit.  The food was excellent (maybe a little too fattening).   It was like a family.  As it grew slightly larger, things got slightly more  difficult.  I kept up with Wellspring only sporadically since 1997, but I am sure that such  tremendous growth inevitably led to even more chaos, because most of the kids were severely troubled.  I wish now that Wellspring had remained small.  I am sure there was plenty of blame to go around for its demise.
     I am sorry that so much controvery engulfed a place that brought me and others I knew such peace and piece of mind.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2005, 09:19:00 PM

I agree with your comments.  Actually, I agree with a large majority of the comments listed on this web site.  I was a science teacher (for only several months)and it only took a few days to realize that Bob and his school was a fraud.  It does not surprise me that he would blame the Bankruptcy on a counselor.  He is not going to take any responsibility for his actions. Unfortunately, for Bob it is very possible that he will be forced to take responsibility. During the few months employed, I witness Bob constantly abuse the students and staff. I never was witness any physical abuse, however, verbal and mental abuse was very much present.  Extending this comment, Bob also would place blame on every parent for the reasons why the student's past behavior was so exceptional and because of the parent, the only choice remaining for the student was Bob's school or prison.  This was only when the parent(s) were not present.  What seemed so exceptional was a majority of the student's behavior was not exceptional but normal.  From an education stand, most students preformed well in the classroom and tested above average.  However, I was instructed (and I assume others were as well)that each student was to recieve a passing mark regardless of performance.  I would not followed the directive.  Finally, I was released by Bob because I would not agree to testify, in writing, that I was witness to a student breaking into the med locker and taking prescription medicine.  I was informed the student's was giving another student prescribe medicine by mistake.  The fact of the matter was, I never witnessed either act and therefore, was not going to testify otherwise.  Later that day a meeting was held with other staff members and I was released.  Once off the campus, Bob placed a stop payment on my paycheck.  I still have the canx check and would like to know who I can contact to fax a copy.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2005, 02:13:00 PM

Interesting.  I was probably the science teacher that followed you.  Ditto your comments and observations.  I stayed only a couple of months and left on my own.  My last check bounced as well.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2005, 12:22:00 PM

Bob and Sharon, sons, wifes and grandchildren still live in the vicinity. Bob's home looks over Birch Creek Development from the mountain side and he can watch the development happening.  Yes Sharon's brother is ONE of the new owners.  There are 6 NEW owners and Bob has NOTHING to do with it.  The first home is being built in the development as we speak.  Lots have been sold, ponds have been dammed and filled and roads are going in.  NO SCHOOL!! :wave:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: OverLordd on September 28, 2005, 02:13:00 PM

Good news, very good news.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2005, 06:37:00 AM

What about the rest of the gang, especially Lisa Crowder, Cindy Thomas, and Joe Eggleston?  Anyone know anything about them?  I hope the investigators have Bob's new address.  It's been more than 2 years since Wellspring shut down but they're still on the case.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2005, 05:28:00 PM

cindy works at belk's in south boston, joe was working for some company nearby.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2005, 10:12:00 PM

Chris's new "school" Cove Creek Center seems to be turning the way of Wellspring.
http://www.wataugademocrat.com/2005/101 ... uelty.php3 (http://www.wataugademocrat.com/2005/1017web/virginiamanchargedinanimalcruelty.php3)
I know this kid from volunteer work they did to help repair a local school- he seemed to be, out of all the boys that I met, the most well adjusted. Friendly, animated, and very excited about getting to go home. And then this comes up... somehow it doesn't make sense.
I might add that Chris has also decided that he is now Orthodox Jewish... kind of odd considering his extensive background in Christianity.
Were there any websites that documented physiological or physical abuse? I'm worried about the safety of the boys out on the "farm"

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2005, 10:14:00 PM

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On 2005-09-20 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"anyone remember when the girls program shut down?

anyone remember why?

"

i was there when it shut down. i THINK it was around late 1996? i know it was only about 3-4 months after i first arrived at wellspring.

no idea as to why it was shut down. i seem to recall the staff claiming that it was because of too much inter-student boofing....though i highly doubt that was the real reason.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2005, 07:42:00 AM

The girl's program shut down admist allegations from the girls regarding sexual misconduct on Bob's part. 2 girls (both under age) specifically accused Bob of having sex with them. One girl confided in her counselor, then promptly left. The other girl didn't tell the counselor until after she had left the farm.

On another note. Those of you who were at the farm in the early days - pre 1995 or 94 - Bob was a caring man. The farm was a great healing place. But then it changed. He got a taste of the power and the money that was easily gained through broken, vulnerable children and parents. This small taste got him consumed with how to get more. With each person he duped money from, with each person he manipulated, he got more bold and more addicted to the power and money. Each lie led to more lies and became harder and harder to cover. Many of these lies led to the need for more money (for payoffs to keep prior victims quiet). He is now out of control. He's gone crazy.

Near the end he had 90 some kids at that farm. They had inadequate counseling, were abused physically as well as emotionally, and living conditions were worse than a state prison - he didn't care about their emotional nor physical health. He cared about how much money he could get, and he got off on how easy it was to control and dupe the parents and staff. He and Cindi would joke and laugh about the parents after they left from a visit. It was appalling and disgraceful that a "minister" behaved the way he behaved.

So yes, it was good at one time. It's important to look at how the years have progressed - not just at one time period. It's really sad. It could have been so good and a great blessing for children, parents, and Bob. But Bob chose to follow the devil and to worship other gods (money/power) instead of Our Lord.

Our Lord won't allow this behavior. For those of you who have been hurt so badly by this monster, remember that. God is watching and knows what needs to be done. God's will be done!! I know it's hard, but be patient and pray for Bob to be stopped - that God stop him in His will, not ours. That's the key, to let God have our anger, our need for revenge, our will. You all are not alone. There are so many people praying for this situation. God is watching! God's will be done!!

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2005, 07:46:00 AM

Have Faith - it's not over

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2005, 07:55:00 AM

His office is on creedmoor road - not millbrook

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2005, 12:53:00 PM

I attended Wellspring in the mid 90's.  I was contacted last night by the Virgina US District Attoney's Office.  I can honestly say that my stay @ Wellspring was postive & nothing negative ever happened to me.  I am so so sorry to all those who were hurt by Bob G.  and his actions & Yes Sharon G. is a saint & I belive she did not know of Bob's evilness. If any crimal behavior occured while I was there, I didnt know anything about it.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2005, 03:19:00 AM

stu told me she works at sears in danville.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2005, 03:56:00 AM

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On 2005-12-08 00:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"stu told me she works at sears in danville."

does anybody know how to get in touch with some of the staff from wellspring? i talk to some of the kids i went there with but wellspring helped me and i would like to talk to some of the staff that helped me while i was there.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2005, 11:40:00 AM

not sears in danville, but belk's in south boston is where cindy is at. who are you looking for as far as staff is concerned? ew!

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2005, 05:46:00 PM

I heard Cindy moved to Florida, and her house is for sale.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2005, 12:27:00 AM

jaleal,  kieth,  jim, hank, all the kitchen ladies

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 19, 2006, 12:26:00 AM

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On 2005-12-15 21:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"jaleal,  kieth,  jim, hank, all the kitchen ladies"

now yall know me i aint funna fake fo no peckawoods. most of the kids that went to wellspring were fuckin pussies. but the thing that pissed me off the most was lenny died and they wouldnt even tell us. he was a good friend of mine

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 19, 2006, 05:08:00 PM

?Lenny? as you called him was a tragedy just as anyone would be if they feel under similar circumstances. You say he was a good friend of yours?
What did you do to prevent him from doing the drugs that killed him? Or were you too busy perpetuating your own selfish behavior to notice? Really people, don?t use the horrifying example of this CHILD to further your own misguided ideas of what the truth is. YOU have issues that are still quite apparent and its not too late! Get some help and get CLEAN. If you don?t understand that or see it, please don?t lessen the lost of what we all feel by using it to your advantage.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2006, 12:25:00 PM

IF anyone knows me.. FRANK REDDEN.. holla at ya boy..

i ran away on a home vistit and told my parents about Joe and sean beating my ass all the time and they didnbt beleive me so i ran awawy.. a week later i called therm and they said to come home and we would go to the Police in Virgingia..

so i did.. that  was back in 200something.. does anyone know what happened to Joe Eggleston//

call me
704-307-6380
704-660-9400

Title: What is going on with Bob Gluhareff?
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2006, 10:52:45 AM

What is happening with his court case? ANYTHING?
I have been hearing less and less and hope and pray that justice will prevail, but it?s been a long time. My family has forgiven Bob but he should not be able to continue to hurt others. Please someone ?????.any updates?
Thank you.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2006, 11:49:05 AM

Grand jury indicts former school CEO

By JONNELLE DAVIS
Register & Bee staff writer
August 5, 2006

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DANVILLE, Va. - The founder and former CEO of a now-defunct school for boys faces 36 federal charges related to his handling of school and personal funds.

Robert Serge Gluhareff was indicted July 25 on three counts of bank fraud, 25 counts of tax fraud, four counts of mail fraud, two counts of wire fraud, one count of false declaration and one count of money laundering, according to the office of U.S. Attorney John L. Brownlee.

The indictment, which was unsealed Friday, alleges that from 1999 to 2003, Gluhareff and Wellspring Academy ?repeatedly experienced serious financial problems and lacked sufficient money to meet expenses.?

It accuses Gluhareff of a number of schemes to obtain money, including writing and depositing checks on his personal accounts knowing that they would be dishonored; convincing parents to write tuition checks and then depositing the checks before the funds became available; and falsely promoting the school as having licensed counselors.

Gluhareff also is accused of selling the timber rights of

approximately 90 acres of land that had a lien on it, misrepresenting tuition payments as tax deductible ?scholarship donations,? and encouraging parents to solicit corporate matching gift donations for what were actually their children?s tuition payments.

Wellspring Academy, which was located near South Boston, marketed itself as a Christian-based residential school for boys with academic and behavioral problems. Tuition at the school ranged from $43,000 to $49,000 a year.

In April 2003, Gluhareff abruptly closed the school, citing financial problems. In the days following, teachers complained about not getting paid, and parents and students made allegations of abuse, inadequate campus facilities and strange disciplinary practices.

In May 2003, a Halifax County District Court Judge awarded more than $9,000 to a former school employee and two businesses seeking payment for services.

In August 2003, Gluhareff and his wife, Elizabeth, filed personal bankruptcy and corporate bankruptcy on behalf of The Religious and Educational Institute of Raleigh Inc., which encompassed Wellspring Academy.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Deborah on August 05, 2006, 03:07:58 PM

Great news!!
If Ted or Cindy Mitchell, Lisa Grant, or any of the parents who were responsible for initiating this investigation and following it to fruition are reading this site, would you please PM me.
I'm very interested in the details about how it came about.
Thanks!

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Deborah on August 05, 2006, 05:40:01 PM

Other threads on Wellspring
http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php? ... =gluhareff (http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php?t=2411&highlight=gluhareff)
http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php? ... =gluhareff (http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php?t=14224&highlight=gluhareff)
http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php? ... =gluhareff (http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php?t=6141&highlight=gluhareff)
http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php? ... =gluhareff (http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php?t=12054&highlight=gluhareff)


Some interesting history:
http://www.thenewsrecord.com/archives/2003/04242003.htm (http://www.thenewsrecord.com/archives/2003/04242003.htm)

Parents Dismayed By Wellspring Closing
Wellspring Academy, a special school for at-risk youth which has been operating in Halifax County since 1986, has been closed. That was the word from Bob Gluhareff, owner of the academy. Gluhareff on Tuesday referred all questions about the school to his Danville attorney Glenn Pulley or to local law enforcement officers.

According to Halifax County Sheriff D.J. Oakes, a fast moving chain of events which began last Friday, April 18, 2003 led to the school's closure.

Oakes said he was called out toWellspring around 1 a.m. on Saturday morning when four of the students at the school did not return as expected. The students, he explained, had been taken from the school premises by a counselor, whose paycheck had bounced. The counselor, he said, had 20 of the school's 70 students in her charge, and she took four of them to South Boston where she lives and had them contact their parents. Two of the four, Oakes said, were at the school under court order.

The sheriff said the counselor had the boys all call their parents to advise them of their whereabouts and to describe for them conditions at the school. Most of the students at the school were still on spring break.

Oakes said he called in employees of the Halifax County Social Services Department to investigate conditions and to talk to the four boys who were later found in a garage apartment in South Boston near where the counselor lived. Several of the parents who lived in far away places, he noted, were by that time already en route to pick up their children.

The boys, the sheriff said, were taken to the Halifax County Sheriff's Department where Social Service staffers questioned them about the conditions and one, according to Oakes, asked to be taken back to the school.

"They were brought back to Wellspring and slept in the living room of Gluhareff's home," Oakes said, noting that he thought everything was okay at that point.

But, Oakes continued, the counselor, whom he described as "disgruntled" because her paycheck had bounced, had called the parents of most of her other charges, and they began coming to the school, questioning what was going on.

"By Sunday," Oakes said, "Gluhareff called and said he was closing the school down because he simply could not weather the storm (from the parents). He (Gluhareff) called his employees and on Monday everyone was paid," according to the sheriff.

Oakes said Tuesday that he is awaiting a final report from Social Services on their findings at the school.

Commonwealth's Attorney John Greenbacker, who was called by Gluhareff over the week-end about the situation said simply, "Allegations of any wrong doings will be turned over to the Virginia State Police for their investigation."

But parents and staffers had a different take on what happened over the week-end. One parent, Susan Dalgleish of Charlotte, N.C., whose 17 year old son has been enrolled at Wellspring since last July, said events of the week-end had been "a real eye-opener about the boys' treatment" at the school for her and several other parents she met over this past week-end.

"We don't want him (Gluhareff) to ever be able to regroup or resurface to be in charge of at-risk youth again," she said. Noting that she had paid $46,000 to the school since her son enrolled on July 12, 2002, she said that while she would like to get some of her money back, her prime goal was to see the school shut down.

She added that a number of parents have banded together to file a class action lawsuit against the academy and that an attorney has been hired to file suit. The parents, Dalgleish, said come from Colorado, two sets from New York and others from Maryland and other locations, as well as herself.

She defended the counselor's actions in removing the four boys from the school last Friday. Lisa Grant, the counselor, she said, had only the safety of the four boys in mind when she took them to South Boston. "She was careful to have each of the boys call their parents to let them know they were safe and where they could be found." Grant, she said, always worked under the assumption of doing what was best for those boys in her care. "It's all about the boys," Dalgleish said was the focus of Grant's actions.

Dalgleish said when she enrolled her son at Wellspring and paid $25,000 for his first three month stay there, she had been told personally by Gluhareff that the school was certified and that he would be doing testing on her son and working out a plan for his personal development there. In October, she said, she paid another $21,000 for the coming months' tuition. Now, she says, her son has never had the opportunity to take SAT tests, nor has she received any academic report on his work.

Another parent told the Lynchburg News & Advance that her 16 year old son had only been at the school for three weeks when she was told it was closing. She said she had been required to make a $25,000 deposit at the time she enrolled her child and is now told the money will not be refunded. A San Diego, California parent also told the News & Advance that she had enrolled her son on April 11, making a $25,000 deposit which she is now being told will not be refunded although the boy was there for only ten days.

"The kids have been traumatized and the parents shocked," Dalgleish said, noting that now her son tells her he was consistently yelled at during his stay at the school and told he "was worth nothing." She said students had advised their parents after the unfolding of the week-end's events that they were scared to say anything about conditions, fearing what the repercussions from the school administration might be. Their telephone calls to the parents were monitored, Dalgleish contends.

A former student at the school called this newspaper yesterday to say that Wellspring "was good for me and a lot of other kids who went to school there." He was, however, concerned about what the closure might do to the counselors. "I never met so many people who were so dedicated to the kids and to their jobs. They put out so much effort," said Carson Stanley, who finished Wellspring last year and is now attending a community college near Charlotte, NC.

Stanley said he felt that the school had accepted a lot of kids who probably would have been in jail were it not for Wellspring. "Bob Gluhareff seemed to me to be a really honest person, one we all looked up to. Now I'm asking myself is he really just a con artist?"

Another counselor at the academy whose checks had not bounced, said she just didn't know what to think after being called Sunday and told the school was closed. "I was just floored. My emotions ranged from anger to hurt to dismay. I am really concerned about my parents and my boys. I'm working hard to help them get into another program, but the timing right now is bad," she said, asking not to be identified.

She noted that she and other employees had been called into a conference on Friday and told that some parents of the school's students had not honored their financial commitments, consequently staffers' pay would be cut by 20 percent retroactively to two pay periods.

Employees were also told at that time that they would not be able to get their checks on Friday as had been the practice, but rather they would have to wait until Monday to be paid. "I was never aware of any of the financial status of the school," she said. "My job was to work with the boys and their parents. Wellspring has done a lot of good for a lot of boys," she said. "The staff had helped a lot of young men work through their problems. This just comes as such a shock that I am numb."

That same counselor had only the best things to say about Grant, who had taken the four boys to her home on Friday. "Her method might have been wrong, but her motives were right. She has an unbelievable heart for the kids and always wanted to do what was in their best interest."

Reports said the school had financial problems other than the bounced checks to the employees. A food service provider reportedly is owned some $26,000 while a local restaurant owner who has been catering meals to the school says he has not been paid for his recent services.

Gluhareff ran unsuccessfully for a seat on the Halifax County Baord of Supervisors in the November 2001 elections and was supported by Fifth District Congressman Virgil Goode to whom he had made political donations and who has made several appearances for special events at the school. He was also a staunch supporter of other Republican candidates, including Senator George Allen to whose campaign he had contributed $2,000 in 1999.

The Federal Election Commission lists a $4,500 contribution from Gluhareff to the Republican Party of Virginia in 2001 and the Virginia Public Access Project lists an $11,200 cash donation to Delegate Clarke Hogan. Gluhareff also donated another $2,000 in cash to the Class of 2002 Southside Leadership Fund which was set up to support Hogan, Delegates Robert Hurt and Danny Marshall.

School Counselor's Car Burned Early Monday
South Boston Police are investigating a car fire they were called to investigate early Monday morning at 1332 Shepherd Street. A 1989 Honda Accord which was parked in the driveway of the residence was fully engulfed in flames alongside a wooden privacy fence when officers first arrived around 4 a.m.

Fire department members quickly brought the blaze under control, but the vehicle was declared a total loss. Two other vehicles, a 1993 Ford Taurus and a 1986 Ford van also suffered minor damages.

According to South Boston Police Investigator Tim Van Aernem, the fire is being treated as "suspicious," although no cause of the blaze has yet been determined.

The owner of the car, Lisa Grant, was asleep at the time and was awakened by a neighbor who noticed the flames coming from the car. Grant was a counselor at Wellspring Academy prior to the school's closure this past week-end.

When Van Aernem was asked if the fire might be in any way tied to the events of the week-end at Wellspring, the investigator said "there is absolutely no evidence at this time to in any way tie the two together."

Anyone with information about the car fire or any other illegal incident is asked to contact Lt. B.K. Lovelace or Van Aernem at 434-575-4271 or call Crime Stoppers at 434-575-TIPS.

Was this ever resolved?
~~~

Another article states:
After the academy obtained nonprofit status in 1990, Gluhareff also advised some parents that a large portion of their tuition payments could be deducted on their taxes as a charitable donation, authorities say.

The U.S. Attorney's Office declined to say whether any parents would be held accountable for false filings.

At the same time, Gluhareff led parents to believe that their employers could match their "charitable donations" to the academy, documents show. As a result, four companies sent Wellspring Academy matches totaling $67,000.

Gluhareff is also accused of telling the parents of Wellspring students that children received counseling from licensed professional counselors on campus when in fact no one on staff was licensed as a counselor in Virginia.

The indictment charges Gluhareff with lying to a federal grand jury about the licensing status of his counselors and with faxing two letters to attorneys that claimed that "each student meets with his individual licensed counselor weekly."

[Were the 'counselors' simply not licensed, or not licensed in Va?]

The indictment states that some parents based their decision to choose Wellspring Academy in large part on the belief that their children would have access to licensed counselors.

Finally, Gluhareff sold timber rights to 90 acres of his land to a logger for $60,000. The problem, according to officials: Gluhareff had already pledged that land to BB&T for a $1.3 million loan.
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-76791 (http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-76791)

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2006, 05:46:59 PM

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I am really concerned about my parents and my boys. I'm working hard to help them get into another program, but the timing right now is bad

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Title: Good News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2006, 08:45:11 AM

Thank you to all the people that contributed to this forum. Without the ability for people to see that they are not alone in this struggle Bob Gluhareff may have never been stopped. Also I thank God for the investigators that have been pursuing this case for several years and have had the dedication to justice and protecting the victims of this wicked man, we are in your debt. Our support and prayers will continue as this case moves forward into trial.
Questions:
Does anyone know if the state police will pursue the questions of him having sex with 14 year old girls in the state of Virginia?
Has he been arrested?
Is there a mug shot that can be seen or posted? :)  :)
Any media covering this story? (In Danville Va., Raleigh NC)
Is there anything that can be done now to ensure that the trial ends in the appropriate convictions?

Thank you again to everyone involved. God bless you all.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2006, 03:12:16 PM

He was released on a $25,000 unsecured bond under the condition he stays in the Raleigh or Danville area.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2006, 07:44:26 AM

This is wonderful news!  I read the press coverage from a whole bunch of cities.  I have to say, I was really disappointed that the Raleigh paper talked to Bob in his office and gave him such a platform for trying to sound like HE was the victim.  Christian art on the walls and a jar labled "Warm fuzzies" indeed!  Why wasn't equal time devoted to a former student and/or parent who disagrees with Bob's version of life at Wellspring?

Well, it doesn't matter how he sounds in the news, all that matters is what happens in the justice system.  A big THANK YOU to the Assistant US Attorney, agents from the Virginia State Police, Treasury Dept, and US Postal Service for all their hard work.  And this investigation has been hard work.  A big THANK YOU to the parents who have allowed WS to remain part of their lives by helping with the investigation when it would be so much easier to try to forget and heal.

Now how and when are we going to get this country to take responsibility for all the other Wellsprings out there and make this stop?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2006, 01:32:37 PM

Lisa Grant can be contacted at [email protected]

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2006, 11:11:56 AM

On May 24, 2006, Gluhareff appeared in front of a Grand Jury in the Western District of Virginia sitting in Roanoke, Virginia. The Grand Jury has charged that Gluhareff knowingly made a false material declaration in regards to the licensing of the counselors that worked at Wellspring Academy.
If convicted on all counts, the maximum penalty faced by the defendant is 297 years imprisonment and/or a fine of $7,400,000.
The investigation of the case was conducted by the United States Postal Inspection Service, the Virginia State Police, and the IRS. Assistant United States Attorney Jennie L. M. Waering will prosecute the case.
A Grand Jury indictment is only a charge and not evidence of guilt. The defendant is entitled to a fair trial with the burden on the government to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2006, 11:58:24 AM

Political Campaign Contributors
Ranked by Amount Contributed from 1999 - Present
97978. Robert Gluhareff ... Contribution Count/Amount - 5 / $8,500
http://www.campaignmoney.com/contributors.asp?pg=98 (http://www.campaignmoney.com/contributors.asp?pg=98)

Robert Gluhareff Contribution List in 2000
Name & Location--Employer/Occupation--$ Amount--
Date--Contibuted To

GLUHAREFF, ROBERT S
SUTHERLIN, VA
24594   WELLSPRING ACADEMY   $1,000   08/26/2000   GOODE FOR CONGRESS - Independent

GLUHAREFF, ROBERT S
SUTHERLIN, VA
24594   WELLSPRING   $4,500   08/25/2000   REPUBLICAN PARTY OF VIRGINIA INC

Gluhareff, Robert S. Mr.
SUTHERLIN, VA
24594   Self/Private School Educator   $1,000   03/22/2000   BUSH FOR PRESIDENT INC - Republican

GLUHAREFF, ROBERT
SOUTH BOSTON, VA
24592   EDUCATION/PRIVATE SCHOOL   $1,000   12/29/1999   FRIENDS OF GEORGE ALLEN - Republican

GLUHAREFF, ROBERT
SOUTH BOSTON, VA
24592   EDUCATION/PRIVATE SCHOOL   $1,000   12/06/1999   FRIENDS OF GEORGE ALLEN - Republican

http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/ ... p?cycle=00 (http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/robert-gluhareff.asp?cycle=00)

Title: Now what?
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2006, 11:56:45 AM

A trial?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2006, 11:29:37 AM

When does the trial start?
Is their a mug shot that is public record?

Title: Trial
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2006, 02:06:52 PM

The trial is in Roanoke, Virginia and starts in October so I read.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2006, 09:26:23 AM

Gluhareff faces more fraud charges


By JONNELLE DAVIS
Register & Bee staff writer
September 30, 2006
 
 
 
DANVILLE - An additional 17 federal indictments were handed down Thursday against the founder and former CEO of the Wellspring Academy related to his handling of school and personal funds.

Robert Serge Gluhareff now faces 21 counts of bank fraud, one count of money laundering, 25 counts of tax fraud, four counts of mail fraud and two counts of wire fraud, bringing the total number of charges to 53. On July 25, Gluhareff was indicted on 36 charges.

As with the first set of indictments, Gluhareff is accused of scheming and mishandling school and personal funds in order to obtain money. Authorities say Gluhareff routinely deposited parents? tuition checks before the funds became available.

Between April 2002 and April 2003, Gluhareff knowingly deposited about $476,000 in worthless tuition checks into the school?s BB&T account and drew money from the ?fraudulently inflated? balances created by the deposits, according to the indictment.

The indictments also allege that Gluhareff assisted in misrepresenting tuition payments as tax-deductible ?scholarship donations,? encouraged parents to solicit corporate matching gift donations for what were actually their children?s tuition payments, and falsely promoted the school as having licensed counselors.

Gluhareff founded Wellspring Academy, which was located near South Boston, as a Christian-based residential school for boys who had academic, behavioral and other problems. He cited financial problems when he abruptly closed the school in April 2003. Teachers complained about not getting paid, and parents and students complained of abuse and inadequate campus facilities.

In August 2003, Gluhareff and his wife, Elizabeth, filed personal and corporate bankruptcy.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2006, 02:06:07 PM

the trial is on October what?
I would like to attend but need to know day and time.
anyone.....?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2006, 08:02:55 PM

Bob will be arraigned October 16.  
His trial is scheduled to start Feb 26 at 9 am in the federal building in Roanoke.
He's charged with 53 counts of I think 6 different charges.
It was a long time coming.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2006, 06:26:47 PM

What Happened On OCT 16??????

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2006, 08:45:30 AM

Please, does anybody out there know if Bob was actually arraigned Oct 16?  Does anybody know where any of the players are or what they're doing now:  Cindy Thomas, Joe Eggleston, Sean Kelly, Chris Christenbury, LISA CROWDER, Lisa Grant, Dave and Jon Gluhareff, Adam and Valorie Cook, did I miss any?

Title: interesting reading
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2006, 03:22:03 PM

Great forum.  For those of you who were at Wellspring, I am sorry to hear about the pain that this has caused.  I was there for about a year.  I was fortunate enough to have had parents who finally just started believing what I was saying.  While most of what I read, is right on the money, there were some truly good people that attended.  Most of those people figured it out and got out.  To those people, I hope that all of you are doing well.  Some of you might know EXACTLY who I am when I tell you that I would have RATHER not attended Wellspring (sorry, inside joke to many)   If that rings any bells, shoot me an email sometime [email protected].  I really am glad to see that things are finally going to be set straight.

Title: Gluhareff Trial
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2006, 07:13:06 PM

February 25 - March 16 it is scheduled, I just got subpeoned and it says there are 100 potential witnesses for the US.

Title: BOB GLUHAREFFS COURT DATE
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2006, 02:13:04 AM

i was a student at wellspring and i just got my subpoena in the mail today to testify for the state, the court dates are from;
FEBRUARY 26th - MARCH 16th 2007 (you dont have to be present the whole time tho)
the proceedings are over a 3 week period, all people going to testify will recieve an allowance for travel and food, (at least it says something about that in the papers)

for assistance with travel arrangements you can call;
Al Smith 540-857-2957
and if you would like to be a part of this, additional information or anything, you can call the prosecutor;
Jennie Waering at 540-857-2905

If you wanna holla at me, hit me up, [email protected], i went for bout a year, if you were there when I was there then i kno youll kno me, fuck wellspring...

Title: fwa
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2007, 02:14:12 PM

wow.
this is mike dechiara....
its funny when the truth comes actually comes out.
i went to wellspring for a year and a half... due to my student management position i saw a lot of really shady stuff going on.
glad that bobs getting the dick in his mouth that he deserved.

we made the best of that bullshit, kept our heads up,met some tight people and learned to be manipulative and not get caught.

fuck it.

FWA.

i have the last "recent" staff roster + phone number lists ect that joe emailed me. any one who wants some info ...

cell: 330 703 7246
aim: xinfirmarycallsx
email: [email protected]

Title: Trial
Post by: Anonymous on February 01, 2007, 09:42:26 AM

Date has been moved to April 23rd.

Title: I should be at the trial
Post by: Anonymous on February 28, 2007, 01:31:28 AM

My father is appearing at the trial, he said it should begin mid may of this year. I just found out about this forum, and find it funny so many people want to protect Bob. Glad I was only there for the last six months of the school's existence, but it sucks for my parents who had already paid for a year. My dad will take the stand, and say his piece. I live in Sugar Grove, and have since before i went to wellspring. The school changed my relationship with my folks, we haven't been able to live together since the school, but now i live down the street and we are all right. I pass by the Cove Creek Farm (Chris Chrisienberry's School) to go to College. My parents learned of wellspring from him; he had just opened his school when i got sent off (taken in the middle of the night like so many others). I remember some guys from when i was there, and keep in touch with one staff member. I will be at the trial if at all possible. Wish all the students the best. Oh and i ran into Mike the outdoor guy at a bar in Boone. He recognized me without a doubt, but no words were exchanged.
You Know The Name
David Turbyfill
Turb
"FUD"
Hit me up AOL IM- dturby1

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on February 28, 2007, 10:55:50 AM

opps....i meant to say trial would begin mid march, but what is this posted about april 23?

Turb

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on February 28, 2007, 07:39:47 PM

the subpeona i got says trial starts april 23rd.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on April 14, 2007, 07:11:00 AM

FOUNDER OF WELLSPRING ACADEMY PLEADS GUILTY TO BANK FRAUD, TAX FRAUD AND MAIL FRAUD

United States Attorney John L. Brownlee announced today that Robert Serge Gluhareff, age 62, of South Boston, Virginia, pleaded guilty to two counts of bank fraud, one count of tax fraud and one count of mail fraud. The plea was entered in United States District Court in Roanoke pursuant to a plea agreement.

“Mr. Gluhareff has admitted that he misled the families who came to Wellspring Academy for his assistance. Through his words and actions, Mr. Gluhareff took advantage of parents desperate to find a suitable placement for their sons and caused parents and some of their employers to falsely fill out their own tax returns. In addition, Mr. Gluhareff put the funds of a federally insured financial institution at risk,” said United States Attorney John Brownlee. “I commend the hard work of this team of agents and prosecutors who have investigated this case for four years.”

According to evidence presented by Trial Attorney John S. Darden and Assistant United States Attorney Jennie Waering, Gluhareff was the founder and CEO of Wellspring Academy in Sutherlin, Virginia. Wellspring Academy opened in the late 1980's, and was a residential school that was promoted as providing counseling in a Christian setting to young people with academic and behavioral problems. Wellspring Academy operated under the corporate name “The Religious and Educational Institute of Raleigh, Inc.”

For a time, Wellspring Academy admitted both girls and boys. By 1997, it was a school for boys only. From 2000 to 2003, approximately 60 to 100 boys attended Wellspring Academy at any one time. Tuition during this time ranged from $43,000 to $49,000 per student.

From 1999 through 2003, Gluhareff and Wellspring Academy became mired in serious financial difficulty and did not have the money to meet expenses.

When parents brought their sons to Wellspring Academy, they were required to pay an initial $21,500 to $25,000 tuition payment that day. Many parents did not have the funds available and were forced to apply for loans. Gluhareff would convince these parents to write initial tuition checks, but promised not to deposit the checks for an agreed upon period. Gluhareff would then deposit the checks in the Wellspring Academy account, knowing that the parents’ accounts had insufficient funds to cover the check. Gluhareff also deposited bad checks written on his own accounts and credit lines. Based on the fact that Wellspring Academy received next day credit on its deposits, the net effect of Gluhareff’s knowing deposit of these bad checks was that the school account balance was articially inflated and that his school received a series of interest free unsecured loans. Because he wrote checks on this inflated balance by the time of the school’s closing in April 2003, the account was overdrawn by more than $40,000.

Gluhareff would also tell parents that certain tuition payments were tax deductible as “scholarship donations” if they were paid in advance. Gluhareff also asked parents to have their employers donate matching gifts to Wellspring Academy, even though Gluhareff knew the “scholarship donations” were actually student tuition payments and not charitable contributions. Based on Gluhareff’s certifications that part of the tuition payment was tax deductible, parents submitted false tax returns that resulted in a total tax loss to the government of $405,051.56.

The investigation of the case was conducted by the United States Postal Inspection Service, the Virginia State Police, and the IRS. John S. Darden, Trial Attorney with the Department of Justice Fraud Section, Criminal Division and Assistant United States Attorney Jennie L. M. Waering are prosecuting the case.

Sentencing has been set for July 16, 2007 at 2pm.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: exhausted on April 14, 2007, 05:39:28 PM

Is this the same WellSpring that I watched on TV a few nights ago?????  :o

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on April 14, 2007, 07:28:37 PM

If you live in Virginia, it probably is.
Bob Gluhareff negotiated an agreement to plead guilty to 4 out of 52 felony charges.  Among the charges dropped are those that he promised parents that their sons would receive weekly individual counseling sessions with licensed professional counselors.  He was also charged with lying to a federal grand jury about the licensure status of counselors at Wellspring.  Nobody on the entire WS staff was a licensed professional counselor in Virginia.  The plea agreement includes Bob's written admission that the "United States has probable cause to bring all the counts in the indictment...that these charges were not frivolous, vexatious, or in bad faith".
Just because the charges were dropped doesn't mean they aren't true or the government doesn't have evidence strong enough to convict, this was a compromise.

Title: Bobs a bitch
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2007, 06:14:15 PM

I hope Bob gets his ass rammed.  I went to Wellspring and it messed me up emotionally for life and every kid there.  Anyone wants to hit me up at [email protected] id be cool to catch up.  
Kevin Northup
Turby if you read this you still have my radio?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2007, 07:08:08 PM

Did bobs Sentencing get postponed? For when?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2007, 11:14:12 PM

I don't know. I'd like to find out.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2007, 02:55:09 PM

Unless he finds a way to postpone going to jail AGAIN, he'll be sentenced August 24 at 1:00.

Title: Sentencing
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2007, 01:51:34 AM

So what has happened with Bob's sentencing?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2007, 07:31:48 PM

Sentencing hearing set for 10/04/07 at 1:00.  Have no idea if it will really come off this time.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2007, 07:32:28 PM

Sentencing hearing set for 10/04/07 at 1:00.  Have no idea if it will really come off this time.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 08, 2007, 08:35:57 AM

10/04/2007 has come and gone. What happened?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2007, 05:30:34 PM

WHATS HAPPENING WITH BOB? I heard he checked himself into the hospital when his last court date arrived. What now???? Anyone?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2007, 10:11:12 PM

He did.  But the next day he was back at work in his office in Raleigh where he STILL has a counseling license.
New date for sentencing is on the DOJ website, Oct 25.
Will somebody let us know if he really goes to prison this time?

Title: Former Wellspring Academy head given 30 months in prison
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 05:15:19 PM

http://http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/137255


Bob is in Prison........ :D

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Deborah on October 25, 2007, 06:11:40 PM

::cheers::  Let's post it before it slips into the archives

Former Wellspring Academy head given 30 months in prison
By Mike Gangloff

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School's founder guilty of fraud
Robert Serge Gluhareff, who headed the financially troubled Wellspring Academy in Halifax County, will spend 30 months in prison for a variety of fraud charges.

Gluhareff, who in April pleaded guilty to two federal charges linked to bank fraud, one to mail fraud and one to tax fraud, led a high-priced school for troubled boys that touted the Christian framework of its program. Prosecutors said he propped up the school's shaky finances by depositing bad checks or tuition checks that he knew parents could not yet cover. He also encouraged parents to label advance tuition payments as scholarship donations and to claim tax deductions for them, prosecutors said.

When the school closed suddenly in 2003, parents who paid in advance were out thousands of dollars.

Today, U.S. District Judge Samuel Wilson sentenced Gluhareff to 30 months in prison on each of the four charges, to be served concurrently. Gluhareff also was ordered to pay more than $500,000 restitution, although both defense and prosecution agreed that it’s unlikely he’ll be able to repay that much.

School's founder guilty of fraud
The former head of Wellspring Academy in Sutherlin pleaded guilty to four counts of fraud in the school's closing.
Mike Gangloff

Legal fallout from the collapse three years ago of a pricey Christian school for troubled youth in Halifax County continued Monday with guilty pleas in U.S. District Court.

Robert Serge Gluhareff, the 62-year-old founder and former head of Wellspring Academy in Sutherlin, pleaded guilty to four counts of fraud -- two related to bank fraud, and one each to tax and mail fraud. Those charges, and 49 more dismissed under a plea agreement, stemmed from what prosecutors described as the South Boston resident's attempts to stave off his school's financial collapse and preserve his family's livelihood.

The school's abrupt closing in 2003 left parents who had paid tuition in advance out thousands of dollars.

Contacted by telephone after the court hearing, Ted Mitchell of Youngsville, N.C., said he doubted he'd get back the more than $30,000 he'd borrowed to pay for his son to attend Wellspring.

"He has ruined my life, my wife's life, my son's life," Mitchell said of Gluhareff.

The plea agreement set a sentencing range of 27 to 33 months in prison followed by three years of supervised release. Details of restitution are to be set at sentencing, which is scheduled for July 16.

Wellspring was set up in the late 1980s as a Christian residential program for children with behavioral and academic problems. By 1997, it had become a boys-only facility, and in its final years, about 60 to 100 boys attended at any time. Annual tuition ranged from $43,000 to $49,000.

Gluhareff's wife, two sons and their wife and girlfriend were on Wellspring's payroll during its last years.

Prosecutors said that between 1999 and 2003 Gluhareff temporarily inflated the balances of Wellspring's bank account by depositing bad checks written on his personal accounts and by depositing parents' tuition checks when he knew they had not yet acquired loans to cover them.

Gluhareff or his staff, at his direction, also told parents they could claim advance tuition payments as tax deductions by calling them scholarship donations, and gave them misleading letters to help claim the improper deductions, prosecutors said.

Jay Darden, a U.S. Department of Justice trial attorney who presented the government's evidence, said the bogus deductions cost the government $405,051 in taxes. After the court session, U.S. attorney's office spokeswoman Heidi Coy said she did not know how the improper deductions were being handled.

In newspaper accounts at the time of the school's shutdown, Gluhareff blamed procedural errors and a disgruntled employee for problems.

June Speaker, the parent of another Wellspring student, said Monday after Gluhareff's plea that she initially chose the school because it billed itself as a Christian program. Later, though, she wanted to bring her son back to their home near Chicago because of what she described as harsh discipline and because she wasn't allowed to talk to her son for more than two months.

When she got a call on Easter weekend 2003 that the school was closing and she needed to retrieve her son, it was the answer to her prayers, Speaker said.

Staff researcher Belinda Harris contributed to this report.

Title: Gluhareff in Jail!Hallebejulia!
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 06:28:00 PM

Well it's about time! Justice rolls slow, but at least it rolled him into jail. Where is he serving it at? Some visitations might be in order.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 01, 2007, 10:30:24 AM

He hasn't gone to prison yet.  
You can check www.bop.gov (http://www.bop.gov) and look under inmate locator once he's in there and his info hits the system.  It'll probably be about 6-9 weeks.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 01, 2007, 12:05:32 PM

ATTENTION PRISONERS: OPEN SEASON ON THIS MAN'S ASS.

Literally.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 01, 2007, 10:04:43 PM

Bob Gluhareff Counseling
6531 Creedmoor Rd
Raleigh, NC 27613
Phone: (919) 848-3488


call bob and tell him what a piece of shit he is :)

such a nice message he has...

too bad hes going to get his ass reamed out in jail.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Nihilanthic on November 01, 2007, 10:11:28 PM

Damn, and I used to live in Raleigh.

 :rofl:

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2007, 02:19:19 AM

What is it with North Carolina?

CAPTCHA: whiteman countries

Title: bob
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2007, 12:23:34 AM

My son went to wellspring. I think Bob is a dick. He used to smoke that stinking cigar of his and act all high and mighty. I knew he was full of shit.

I bet he starts a counseling service in prison and convinces inmates that they really are screwed up and want to suck him off.

South= inbreeding

Title: Re: bob
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2007, 04:17:11 PM

Dad...is that you???

Quote from: ""dad""

My son went to wellspring. I think Bob is a dick. He used to smoke that stinking cigar of his and act all high and mighty. I knew he was full of shit.

I bet he starts a counseling service in prison and convinces inmates that they really are screwed up and want to suck him off.

South= inbreeding

Title: Bob's Dead
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2008, 01:06:48 PM

Bob killed himself this weekend.

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2008, 03:19:07 PM

OWNED

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2008, 03:29:14 PM

did this bob person really kill himself?

Title: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: hurrikayne on January 13, 2008, 03:53:14 PM

Google search didn't come up with any reports of his death...

Title: Re: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2008, 07:09:50 PM

Its true, its true.
What a sad ending to a very sad story. God bless the Gluhareff family, God bless the all the Victims of Bob and his evil maddness.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/886049.html (http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/886049.html)

Title: Re: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2008, 07:19:30 PM

I wish bob would of filmed his death and put it on you tube.

Actually i wish i would of loaded the gun and handed it to him.

Wheres Joe Egglestons convict ass?

Probally sucking sean kelly off somewhere on the beach.

fuck you and fuck wellspring.

www.trainwithdave.com (http://www.trainwithdave.com) - what a fucking retard

who remembers brandys hugemongous camel toe?

looks like everyone got what the fuck they had coming to them,

if you were there to actually help the students ( Hank, Lisa G, (The teachers) and very few other staff members, then ignore this.

If you were part of bobs crooked staff (stan, joe, sean, lisa, jenny, dave, cindy, ) rot in hell mother fuckers.

btw stan, i scratched your piece of shit truck with a rock... remember that?

fuck the world  ::evil::

Title: Re: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anonymous on December 29, 2009, 07:16:36 PM

So this thread has been dead a while.
I've been trying to get in touch with Wellspring kids for a bit now.
If anyone still browses through this please hit me up, I miss a lot of you.
Despite what all those fuckheads said, there were a good group of guys at Wellspring before I left.
Find me on facebook, call me 267.614.8672, or shoot me an e-mail [email protected].

As much as I hate to say it Bob, karma is a bitch.
When you spend your adult life manipulating people and taking their money, it WILL come back to bite you in the ass (as it obviously did).

Wellspring really fucked me over in a lot of ways. It robbed me of those essential times where you learn to interact with the opposite sex like a normal fucking human being. Because of this I am constantly plagued with extreme anxiety all the time, I have trouble meeting new people, and I am just generally socially awkward. This was never the case before Wellspring. And lets be honest here, is it really necessary to throw kids into a situation like that for drug use? I mean, for fucks sake, I still use drugs regularly, and Wellspring caused me more problems than the drugs ever have. In fact, they tend to help me to not be a social retard and therefore help reverse the negative affects the Wellspring had on me.

The only thing that pisses me off is that he didn't have the fucking balls to take responsibility for his actions (isn't that why we were all imprisoned there in the first place) and took the easy way out. Way to just abandon Sharon (one of the sweetest women I have ever met), Dave (I wasn't a huge fan, but it must be hard to know your dad blew his own fucking brains out), Jon, Brandy, Jenny, etc...
I would love to get in touch with some of the staff that I really felt had our interests at heart like Joe (as much as most of you hated him, he took me under his wing and genuinely cared), Sean, Hank, Lisa G, and I can't remember his name but that big fat dude that helped Stan run security.

If any of you guys still check up on this, get in touch. I miss a lot of you.
Also if anyone knows any way of getting in touch with John Fadden, I would love to hear from him. He was one of my best friends while I was there, and it seems like he just disappeared off the face of the map...same with Frank Redden, Stu Campbell, Charlie Rooster, Pat Toomey, etc....

We need to have a reunion or some shit.

Hope you all are well.

-Tray "Travis" Porter

Title: Re: Wellspring blames Bankruptcy on Counselor/ Riot
Post by: Anorexic Cokehead on February 23, 2015, 03:39:51 PM

I just watched Boy Interrupted. Evan Perry, the boy who was the subject of the film was at Wellspring.