Fornits
Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: MyBrainNotYours on November 03, 2008, 01:45:40 AM
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What they did to us in Straight, while tragic and horrible, was a *very* small part of the Plan that is currently underway. We were merely lab rats in yet another mind control experiment, propagandized and funded by your (or more correctly you great-grandchildren's) tax dollars and the 80's war du jour (i.e. The War on Drugs), for the betterment of those that would seek to benefit from a world of complete and total control of any and all Commodities (yes, that includes you). It is still happening today, to innocent children, under their unsuspecting/well-meaning/brainwashed-parents' noses) albeit under a different banner of benevolence (e.g. Drug Free America, Evangelical Church, insert-organization-here, etc., ). Now, it is the 'War on 'Terror' . Who knows, maybe you are an 'enemy combatant' or a 'homegrown terrorist' just for reading this post..
There are but TWO primal human emotions.
1. Love
2. Fear
Fear is much more profitable.
They know this.
We MUST collectively migrate from 'victim' status (which is exactly where they want us) to 'empowered' status:
1. Turn off your f@&%ing T.V.
2. See for yourself. Empower yourself!!! Google / YouTube the following:
• Bilderberg Group
• Trilateral Commission
• Martial Law
• 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (Sec 1042)
• Blackwater
• Project 908
• Rex 84
• Operation Gardenplot (DoD Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2)
• Operation Cable Splicer
• HSPD-51
• HSPD-20
• Real ID Act
• RFID tracking module
• Verichip
• PLD – Personal Locaitng Device
• H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
• Military Commissions Act of 2006 (HR6054) - Allows Executive Branch to declare U.S. citizens unlawful enemy combatants
• John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 H.R. 5122 (2006) - effectively nullifies the limits of the The Insurrection Act
• Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
• 2009 Defense Authorization Bill
• Patriot Act - Section 802 “Definition of Domestic Terrorism” – even misdemeanors are classifiable as terrorist activity
• READ and understand the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!!!!
• Check out Ron Paul's book: Revolution: A Manifesto
• HR1955 – Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
• Executive Order 10995 – allows gov’t to seize and control communication media
• Executive Order 10997 – allows govt to seize and control all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals
• Exectutive Order 10999 – allows govt to take control of all food resources and farms
• Executive Order 11000 – allows govt to mobilize civilians into work brigades under govt supervision
• Executive Order 11001 – allows govt to take control of health, education, and welfare functions
• EO 11002 – designates the postmaster general to operate a national registration of all persons
• EO 10998 – allows the govt to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control of all highways, seaports, and waterways
• EO 11003 – allows the govt to take over all airports and aircraft
• EI 11004 – allows the housing authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations
• EO 11005 – allows govt to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities
• EO 11051 – specifies the Office of Emergency planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis
• EO 11310 – grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders
• EO 11921 – Allows FEMA to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money
• HR 8791 – Homeland Terrorism Preparedness Bill
3. Turn your T.V. back on and enjoy the puppet show.
You know what to do.
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Now, it is the 'War on 'Terror' . Who knows, maybe you are an 'enemy combatant' or a 'homegrown terrorist' just for reading this post..
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Wouldn't surprise me at all if Sembler sold his how-to-hollow-out-a-mind methods to the govt. What happened to us was yet another way to for our government to learn to collect information in a hurry. I'm sure Mel the scumbag made a hefty profit from that sale. It's astonishing for me to hear what methods they are using at Gitmo, how similar to what they did to us at STRAIGHT and these similar methods are now being used at GITMO, INC. They are sure sucking information out of the al qaeda folks in a hurry.
What a fucked up world. :(
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Yup. And part of the upshot? viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26084 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26084)
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There are but TWO primal human emotions.
1. Love
2. Fear
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Yeah, yeah, I saw "Donnie Darko", too. It was a good movie. But boiling all human emotion down to one of the two is really an oversimplification.
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where would the manpower to do allthis,controlling and occupation come from, to control all those things at one time seems a tall order,besides .
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There are but TWO primal human emotions.
1. Love
2. Fear
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Yeah, yeah, I saw "Donnie Darko", too. It was a good movie. But boiling all human emotion down to one of the two is really an oversimplification.
Ok, I lead a sheltered life...I never saw the movie "Donnie Darko"
"But boiling all human emotion down to one of the two is really an oversimplification."
In a world wind of complication, breaking things down mathematically to the LCD (Least Common Denominator) may well assist in understanding this overly complex seemingly sinister world inwhich we live. Although I have yet to follow the authors suggestion in Googeling the list above, it is not a stretch of the imagination to assume that the author makes his point and makes it well. I am still in the process of perusing yet another similar list and not unlike the list above it also is choke full of fear based scenarios.
Yet my motivation in this responce is the "TWO primal human emotions".
1) Love
2) Fear
This statement does not sound as an "oversimplifacation". To me it sounds like an announcement from the Department of the Obvious. To paraphrase a book I once read and refer to from time to time says something to the effect of this...
"Belief produces the acceptance of existance. This is why we can belive what no one else thinks is true.It is true because it was made by you. All aspects of fear are untrue because the do not exist the creative level, and therefore does not exist at all. To what ever extent you are willing to submit your believes to this test, to that extent are your perceptions corrected. In sorting out the true from the false, nothing less than a miracle proceeds along these lines....Perfect Love casts out Fear. If Fear exists, then there is not perfect Love. BUT...Only perfect Love exists. If there is Fear, It produces a state that does not exist. The opposite of Love is Fear, but what is all encompasing can have no opposite. Simply summed up; Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists, herein lies the peace of God."
It is a no brainer to see the effects of living in a fear based society...I also think we live, make our purchaces, guns, mace, Alarm systems, enactting the Patriot Act along with a plethoria of "Answers" to living in this Fear based world. It is fairly easy to accept, is it not? I recall George W Bush announcing that "We are at war with FEAR", shortly after the 9/11 attacks. At war with fear...endless and futile...how absurd....but seven years later the whells of the war machine press on. Is the any end of fear in sight? How's that working out for us?
But if Love is discussed...If Peace is the plan...Collectively we roll our eyes in mild agitation and disgust. Why? How could Peace possibly be an answer....especially if the is no profit directly associated with Peace.
Yup, I agree...we were Lab Rats. To what end, I do not know. Yet it does not take a genious to connect the dots. Not unlike other covert operations, we were hidden in plain sight, under the guise of love and compassion for us as disinfranchised(sp) youth. Information had to be collected or rather harvested. Once harvested, to whom did it serve? Mel Sembler is the most obvious connection. And to whom did Mel Sembler report to? Let's see, Ronald Reagan was president at the time of my incarceration. HW Bush was director of the CIA. Am I to underrstand that the CIA had no interest in the shenanaggans at Straight Inc.? Even tho Communist China Reform schools were well in full swing and it techiques and results were well studied...Notes were not comparred, results and comparrisons were not made? I am to believe this?
Yeah, I agree.....Knowingly and willingly we were reduced to Lab Rats.....and dispite all the rage, I'm still just a rat in the cage!
Much Healing to All
woof
OBTW....Here is another lil list of knuckelheads with Bullshit agendas...just to get the mind to do what it was intended to do....THINK
The Illuminati, Freemasons, Secret Societies, etc,.
The Golden Rule? - those who have the gold make the rules.
A web is not created with one thread - Frank Herbert
Chivalric Orders - http://www.chivalricorders.org/orders/o ... ldflee.htm (http://www.chivalricorders.org/orders/other/goldflee.htm)
European Royal Houses - http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/main.htm (http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/main.htm)
Papal Orders and Societies (Malta, etc,.) - http://www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/main2.htm (http://www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/main2.htm)
Bloodlines of the Illuminati - http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/index.html (http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/index.html)
Illuminati News - http://www.illuminati-news.com/index.htm (http://www.illuminati-news.com/index.htm)
Conspiracy Archive - http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/ (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/)
Anti-Communitarian League - http://nord.twu.net/acl/index.html (http://nord.twu.net/acl/index.html)
They Rule - http://www.theyrule.net (http://www.theyrule.net)
Eustace Mullins - http://www.whale.to/b/mullins_h.html (http://www.whale.to/b/mullins_h.html)
G. Edward Griffin - http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/ (http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/)
Reality Zone (for tapes and dvds) - http://www.realityzone.com/comcat.html (http://www.realityzone.com/comcat.html)
Michael Collins Piper - http://www.wingtv.net/piperreader.html (http://www.wingtv.net/piperreader.html)
John Judge - http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/ (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/)
Michael Ruppert - http://www.fromthewilderness.com/ (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/)
Sherman Skolnick (RIP) - http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ (http://www.skolnicksreport.com/)
David Icke - http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index.html (http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index.html)
Len Horowitz - http://www.tetrahedron.org (http://www.tetrahedron.org)
Alex Jones - http://www.infowars.com/ (http://www.infowars.com/)
Jim Marrs - http://www.jimmarrs.com (http://www.jimmarrs.com)
John Greenwald (Black Vault) - http://www.blackvault.com (http://www.blackvault.com)
Alex Constantine - http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/ (http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/)
Alex Constantine
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/200 ... -case.html (http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2007/07/satanism-and-ritual-abuse-case-by-case.html)
Stan Monteith - http://www.radioliberty.com/ (http://www.radioliberty.com/)
Jerry E. Smith - http://www.jerryesmith.com/ (http://www.jerryesmith.com/)
Guerrilla News - http://www.guerrillanews.com/ (http://www.guerrillanews.com/)
http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_soc ... ieties.htm (http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_societies/secret_societies.htm)
The Truth Will Out - http://www.thetruthwillout.com/ (http://www.thetruthwillout.com/)
Project Censored - http://www.projectcensored.org/ (http://www.projectcensored.org/)
Freedom Domain - http://www.freedomdomain.com/linkpage.htm (http://www.freedomdomain.com/linkpage.htm)
Freedom Domain - http://www.freedomdomain.com/ (http://www.freedomdomain.com/)
Down With The Elite - http://members.chello.nl/jsteenis/ (http://members.chello.nl/jsteenis/)
Paranoia Magazine Articles - http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/articles.html (http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/articles.html)
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/index.htm (http://www.preferrednetwork.com/index.htm)
http://www.narconews.com/ (http://www.narconews.com/)
THE ILLUMINATI
History of the Illuminati and the New World Order
http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_ord ... ntents.htm (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/final_warning/final_warning_table_of_contents.htm)
http://www.truthcampaign.ukf.net/ (http://www.truthcampaign.ukf.net/)
The Illuminati Archives - http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Co ... ations.htm (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Council_Foreign_Relations.htm)
The Illuminati Exposed - http://www.mystae.com/restricted/stream ... haupt.html (http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/masons/weishaupt.html)
The Illuminati - http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-fre ... sroom.html (http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/newsroom.html)
The Illuminati & CFR - http://www.apfn.org/apfn/illuminati.htm (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/illuminati.htm)
Albert Pike (and his NWO) - http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm (http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm)
THE "SKULL AND BONES" SOCIETY
http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_soc ... _bones.htm (http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_societies/Groups/Order_of_Skull/order_of_skull_and_bones.htm)
Bush & Kerry "Skulls" Connections - http://globalresearch.ca/articles/LAU404A.html (http://globalresearch.ca/articles/LAU404A.html)
The Skulls & Communism - http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/3/commiebones.htm (http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/3/commiebones.htm)
Skulls - http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1314.cfm (http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1314.cfm)
Skulls - http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworld ... der03.html (http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworldorder/nworder03.html)
Skulls - http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... eorder.htm (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/CarolASThompson/theorder.htm)
Skulls - http://www.freedomdomain.com/secretsoci ... ull02.html (http://www.freedomdomain.com/secretsocieties/skull02.html)
Skulls - http://www.namebase.org/main4/Skull-Bones.html (http://www.namebase.org/main4/Skull-Bones.html)
Skulls - http://archive.salon.com/politics2000/f ... 3/31/bush/ (http://archive.salon.com/politics2000/feature/2000/03/31/bush/)
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/BONES.HTM (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/BONES.HTM)
http://www.questionsquestions.net/feldman/ford_sb.html (http://www.questionsquestions.net/feldman/ford_sb.html)
THE RUSSELL TRUST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Trust_Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Trust_Association)
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... odline.htm (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_russell_bloodline.htm)
FREEMASONRY
Morals and Dogma (by Albert Pike)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm (http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm)
Freemasonic Original Texts
http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/index.htm (http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/index.htm)
Symbols of Freemasonry
http://religion-cults.com/Secret/Freema ... emas2.html (http://religion-cults.com/Secret/Freemasonry/freemas2.html)
http://religion-cults.com/Secret/Freema ... asonry.htm (http://religion-cults.com/Secret/Freemasonry/Freemasonry.htm)
Famous Masons - http://www.la-mason.com/famous.htm (http://www.la-mason.com/famous.htm)
Presidents in Masonry - http://watch.pair.com/mason.html (http://watch.pair.com/mason.html)
The Brotherhoods - http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ma ... /index.htm (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/manipulation/index.htm)
Freemasonry: What is it? (official story webstream) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1_HV85Tgys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1_HV85Tgys)
Who's Who of the Elite - http://www.4rie.com/ (http://www.4rie.com/)
The Dark Brotherhoods - And the Plan for Mankind - http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/ (http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/)
ZIONISM (ATONISM)
http://www.savethemales.ca/000808.html (http://www.savethemales.ca/000808.html)
http://www.savethemales.ca/000482.html (http://www.savethemales.ca/000482.html)
http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_soc ... index.html (http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_societies/Conspiracies/Zionism/index.html)
Arctic Beacon (Articles on Zionism)
Jews Against Zionism - http://www.nkusa.org/ (http://www.nkusa.org/)
The Real "Russian" Mafia - http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-crime-mob-russia-ussr.html (http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-crime-mob-russia-ussr.html)
The Khazars (Arthur Koestler) - http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler/ (http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler/)
The Khazars - http://www.iamthewitness.com/FreedmanFactsAreFacts.html (http://www.iamthewitness.com/FreedmanFactsAreFacts.html)
Benjamin Freeman Speaks - http://www.iamthewitness.com/Freedman1974speech.html (http://www.iamthewitness.com/Freedman1974speech.html)
US Presidents as Zionist Pawns
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Freedman-Jewish-Pawns.html (http://www.iamthewitness.com/Freedman-Jewish-Pawns.html)
The Daryl Bradford Smith Archives - http://www.iamthewitness.com/ (http://www.iamthewitness.com/)
The Rothschilds - http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavindx.htm (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavindx.htm)
The Rothschilds & the Grail Bloodline - http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Ro ... _Grail.htm (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Rothschild_Grail.htm)
The Bilderberg Group - http://www.bilderberg.org/ (http://www.bilderberg.org/)
The Knights Templar - http://watch.pair.com/MasonicPlan.html (http://watch.pair.com/MasonicPlan.html)
http://www.tylwythteg.com/templar.html (http://www.tylwythteg.com/templar.html)
THE FABIAN SOCIETY - http://nord.twu.net/acl/revisionism.html (http://nord.twu.net/acl/revisionism.html)
http://www.crystalinks.com/conspiracy.html (http://www.crystalinks.com/conspiracy.html)
THE JESUITS
(God's Unholy Order)
http://members.tripod.com/~dabz_2/updat ... yranny.htm (http://members.tripod.com/~dabz_2/updates/tyranny/tyranny.htm)
Quotes on the Jesuits - http://calltodecision.com/qct.htm (http://calltodecision.com/qct.htm)
History of the Jesuits - http://www.reformation.org/jesuits.html (http://www.reformation.org/jesuits.html)
The Jesuits - Bill Hughes ("The Secret Terrorists")
http://www.geocities.com/thesecretterrorists/books.html (http://www.geocities.com/thesecretterrorists/books.html)
The Jesuits - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_G ... y_of_Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_General_of_the_Society_of_Jesus)
The Knights of Malta (and Knights Templar)
http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/caqsmom25.1.html (http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/caqsmom25.1.html)
The Vatican & the Knights of Malta - http://calltodecision.com/pktc.htm (http://calltodecision.com/pktc.htm)
Leo Zagami - http://rense.com/general74/satanic.htm (http://rense.com/general74/satanic.htm)
The Black Pope - http://www.sherryshriner.com/black-pope.htm (http://www.sherryshriner.com/black-pope.htm)
THE FATHER ALBERTO SERIES (Exposing the Jesuits)
http://www.chick.com/catalog/assortments/0931.asp (http://www.chick.com/catalog/assortments/0931.asp)
THE BIG BETRAYAL (Life of Father Chiniquy)
http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0251.asp (http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0251.asp)
Father Alberto Rivera Speaks
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... +dei&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5730251808212460790&q=opus+dei&hl=en)
Vatican Treachery
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... +dei&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2056809713202851835&q=opus+dei&hl=en)
VATICAN ASSASSINS
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/ (http://www.vaticanassassins.org/)
Vatican Assassins - Free Webstream (Erich Jon Phelps Lecture)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=eric+john+phelps# (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=eric+john+phelps#)
Vatican Created Islam - Eric Jon Phelps Interviewed
The Vatican Holocaust (Avro Manhattan) - http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html (http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html)
Exposing the Vatican New World Order
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... +b17&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8149452911584742127&q=vitamin+b17&hl=en)
The Vatican and the Illuminati - http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1073.html (http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1073.html)
The Scandal of Roman Catholicism - http://liberalslikechrist.org/Catholic/RCscandal-0.html (http://liberalslikechrist.org/Catholic/RCscandal-0.html)
Opus Dei - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei)
Revelations from the Apocalypse - http://www.geocities.com/sevenstarhand/ (http://www.geocities.com/sevenstarhand/)
THE BALKAN NAZIS
Vatican/Croat Mass-Murderers of Serbs - http://www.reformation.org/archive.html (http://www.reformation.org/archive.html)
The Death of Serbia - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1500942843 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1038731671500942843)
Daryl Eberhart on the Vatican (Ustashi) Genocide - http://calltodecision.com/tvh.htm (http://calltodecision.com/tvh.htm)
ADOLF HITLER - A BRITISH AGENT
http://www.hitlerwasabritishagent.com/ (http://www.hitlerwasabritishagent.com/)
Who Funded Hitler? (Eustace Mullins reveals) - http://www.apfn.net/rockefeller.htm (http://www.apfn.net/rockefeller.htm)
Occultism & Nazism - http://ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p121_Grimstad.html (http://ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p121_Grimstad.html)
US and Nazi Connection - http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/gehlen2-a.htm (http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/gehlen2-a.htm)
US Intelligence Recruits Former Nazis - http://emperors-clothes.com/coverup/summary.htm (http://emperors-clothes.com/coverup/summary.htm)
European Super-State - http://www.free-europe.org/blog/english.php?itemid=294 (http://www.free-europe.org/blog/english.php?itemid=294)
The Mormon Conspiracy - http://mormonconspiracy.com/ (http://mormonconspiracy.com/)
THE ROYALS
Lady Spencer Assassination
Lady Spencer - http://jahtruth.co.uk/diana.htm (http://jahtruth.co.uk/diana.htm)
Lady Spencer Murder Confirmed
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Pri ... 3252274.jp (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Prince-Philip-39told-MI6-to.3252274.jp)
Prince Charles = Anti-Christ?
http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Misc_Studies/ms022.htm (http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Misc_Studies/ms022.htm)
Prince Charles Controversy - http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1678.cfm (http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1678.cfm)
Who Was Shakespeare? - http://fly.hiaay.net/~pal/ (http://fly.hiaay.net/~pal/)
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where would the manpower to do allthis,controlling and occupation come from, to control all those things at one time seems a tall order,besides .
Manpower to control? Oh come on now.....THINK ABOUT IT!
Follow the links I listed and google the posts author's suggestions....the numbers of people are staggering, the time.....well, it didn't just start yesterday....a tall order, perhaps....yet the orders are being carried out, successfully!
Peace is not only possible, but inevitable.
woof
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There are but TWO primal human emotions.
1. Love
2. Fear
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Yeah, yeah, I saw "Donnie Darko", too. It was a good movie. But boiling all human emotion down to one of the two is really an oversimplification.
Well. That was the point Donnie made in the movie (I loved that part).
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Even tho Communist China Reform schools were well in full swing and it techiques and results were well studied...Notes were not comparred, results and comparrisons were not made? I am to believe this?
Not if you're going to believe the Nixon/Ford administration.
http://www.thestraights.com/images/seed ... inwash.gif (http://www.thestraights.com/images/seed-Ervin-brainwash.gif)
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Even tho Communist China Reform schools were well in full swing and it techiques and results were well studied...Notes were not comparred, results and comparrisons were not made? I am to believe this?
Not if you're going to believe the Nixon/Ford administration.
http://www.thestraights.com/images/seed ... inwash.gif (http://www.thestraights.com/images/seed-Ervin-brainwash.gif)
Well, there ya go!
Although I am not as familiar with North Korea's brainwashing techniques as I am with the Chinese Reform Schools...only because I found the Chinese Reform Schools first in my efforts to understand. As time permits I will follow up on the North Korean Techniques. Any links to studies of North Koreas efforts will be appreciated...books I will have to follow up on later in time when more finacially feasable, surely you understand.
Your responce to the post proves my point exactly, even tho two different countries are/were involved. We were observed, evaluated and results and efficacy of the 'reform' were passed on to greater "authority". For example, the US military did studies to see how many hours a human can be worked without collapsing and still maintain relative "good performance". The result was 40 hours. It wasn't long after wards that the civilian population adopted these findings and incorporated the 40 hour work week. This is but one, athough, poor and less substantial example of Government testing and adoption of rule of thumb for the general public.
Obviously this mindset became much more sinister for us, as children. I have always contended that they knew the how's and why's....and most surely knew the long term results of these methods (also well documented) and proceeded anyway for PROFIT...which to me is where the criminal aspect of what was done to us begins to evolve.
I appreciate your input and will re-read the page you linked to later this afternoon (as it's way early in the morning) and further digest it's importance.
Much Peace
woof
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Obviously this mindset became much more sinister for us, as children. I have always contended that they knew the how's and why's....and most surely knew the long term results of these methods (also well documented) and proceeded anyway for PROFIT...which to me is where the criminal aspect of what was done to us begins to evolve.
I think you and I have already had this conversation, but for the benefit of others why may be reading here's a link to some of the many definitions of the word 'profit'.
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3 ... =firefox-a (http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aprofit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a)
The first one is simpler and more brief than most of the others. That's a clue to it's accuracy and comprehensiveness. Almost all the rest are redundant, only slightly varied and more long-winded explanations of the term in the narrow context of financial dealings.
It would be a huge mistake, I think, to think that all this bullshit comes down to nothing but funny green slips of paper. There exist in all humans and many other animals an intense, persistent drive to dominate others. Currency is, as ever, just a marker in a token economy. It only represents (or at least is supposed to represent) real goods and services. You've got a lot of outstanding links in your post that do a good job of sketching out an overall plan and framework of which the Program is only (as the op notes) one minor little part. I'd like to suggest just one good book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0945700040?ie=UTF8&tag=feedyourhead-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0945700040">The Underground History of American Education: A School Teacher's Intimate Investigation of the Problem of Modern Schooli Ng</a>. This was written by one John Taylor Gatto. Gatto responded to a stellar 20 year career in the NY public school system very much the way some of us have responded to our program experience. He knew it was evil, he spent most of his career winning the love and respect of his students and their parents, scorn and trouble from supervisors and awards from colleagues. Upon retirement he went to work researching the history to answer the question "But why?" Money is only a part of it.
I appreciate your input and will re-read the page you linked to later this afternoon (as it's way early in the morning) and further digest it's importance.
It's a short read. Here it is in the context of Wes' research
http://www.thestraights.com/articles/ru ... report.htm (http://www.thestraights.com/articles/russell-genung-dale-report.htm)
Much Peace
woof
And you also,
Ginger
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It's really fucked up that a place as un-American as Straight, Inc. (and similar human 'experiments' leading up to it) could / can exist in this country (or anywhere, for that matter).
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Well yeah it is fucked up. But it is what it is, nothing we can do about it. Even more fucked up is that people don't realize it. Now that we can do something about.
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What they did to us in Straight, while tragic and horrible, was a *very* small part of the Plan that is currently underway. We were merely lab rats in yet another mind control experiment, propagandized and funded by your (or more correctly you great-grandchildren's) tax dollars and the 80's war du jour (i.e. The War on Drugs), for the betterment of those that would seek to benefit from a world of complete and total control of any and all Commodities (yes, that includes you). It is still happening today, to innocent children, under their unsuspecting/well-meaning/brainwashed-parents' noses) albeit under a different banner of benevolence (e.g. Drug Free America, Evangelical Church, insert-organization-here, etc., ). Now, it is the 'War on 'Terror' . Who knows, maybe you are an 'enemy combatant' or a 'homegrown terrorist' just for reading this post..
There are but TWO primal human emotions.
1. Love
2. Fear
Fear is much more profitable.
They know this.
We MUST collectively migrate from 'victim' status (which is exactly where they want us) to 'empowered' status:
1. Turn off your f@&%ing T.V.
2. See for yourself. Empower yourself!!! Google / YouTube the following:
• Bilderberg Group
• Trilateral Commission
• Martial Law
• 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (Sec 1042)
• Blackwater
• Project 908
• Rex 84
• Operation Gardenplot (DoD Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2)
• Operation Cable Splicer
• HSPD-51
• HSPD-20
• Real ID Act
• RFID tracking module
• Verichip
• PLD – Personal Locaitng Device
• H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
• Military Commissions Act of 2006 (HR6054) - Allows Executive Branch to declare U.S. citizens unlawful enemy combatants
• John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 H.R. 5122 (2006) - effectively nullifies the limits of the The Insurrection Act
• Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
• 2009 Defense Authorization Bill
• Patriot Act - Section 802 “Definition of Domestic Terrorism” – even misdemeanors are classifiable as terrorist activity
• READ and understand the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!!!!
• Check out Ron Paul's book: Revolution: A Manifesto
• HR1955 – Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
• Executive Order 10995 – allows gov’t to seize and control communication media
• Executive Order 10997 – allows govt to seize and control all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals
• Exectutive Order 10999 – allows govt to take control of all food resources and farms
• Executive Order 11000 – allows govt to mobilize civilians into work brigades under govt supervision
• Executive Order 11001 – allows govt to take control of health, education, and welfare functions
• EO 11002 – designates the postmaster general to operate a national registration of all persons
• EO 10998 – allows the govt to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control of all highways, seaports, and waterways
• EO 11003 – allows the govt to take over all airports and aircraft
• EI 11004 – allows the housing authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations
• EO 11005 – allows govt to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities
• EO 11051 – specifies the Office of Emergency planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis
• EO 11310 – grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders
• EO 11921 – Allows FEMA to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money
• HR 8791 – Homeland Terrorism Preparedness Bill
3. Turn your T.V. back on and enjoy the puppet show.
You know what to do.
I remember whenever the staff used to try to talk to me about the whole "love vs. fear" thing, I would just ask them "Well, did my parents send me here out of love or fear?" That would usually just piss them off and they would yell or tell me that I'm missing the point. The two emotions often create eachother; there is no mystical over-arching dichotomy between love and fear. The entire world doesn't just fall into two categories. That's dumb. Such over-generalization is dangerous to the individual and dangerous to society.
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What they did to us in Straight, while tragic and horrible, was a *very* small part of the Plan that is currently underway. We were merely lab rats in yet another mind control experiment, propagandized and funded by your (or more correctly you great-grandchildren's) tax dollars and the 80's war du jour (i.e. The War on Drugs), for the betterment of those that would seek to benefit from a world of complete and total control of any and all Commodities (yes, that includes you). It is still happening today, to innocent children, under their unsuspecting/well-meaning/brainwashed-parents' noses) albeit under a different banner of benevolence (e.g. Drug Free America, Evangelical Church, insert-organization-here, etc., ). Now, it is the 'War on 'Terror' . Who knows, maybe you are an 'enemy combatant' or a 'homegrown terrorist' just for reading this post..
There are but TWO primal human emotions.
1. Love
2. Fear
Fear is much more profitable.
They know this.
We MUST collectively migrate from 'victim' status (which is exactly where they want us) to 'empowered' status:
1. Turn off your f@&%ing T.V.
2. See for yourself. Empower yourself!!! Google / YouTube the following:
• Bilderberg Group
• Trilateral Commission
• Martial Law
• 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (Sec 1042)
• Blackwater
• Project 908
• Rex 84
• Operation Gardenplot (DoD Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2)
• Operation Cable Splicer
• HSPD-51
• HSPD-20
• Real ID Act
• RFID tracking module
• Verichip
• PLD – Personal Locaitng Device
• H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
• Military Commissions Act of 2006 (HR6054) - Allows Executive Branch to declare U.S. citizens unlawful enemy combatants
• John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 H.R. 5122 (2006) - effectively nullifies the limits of the The Insurrection Act
• Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
• 2009 Defense Authorization Bill
• Patriot Act - Section 802 “Definition of Domestic Terrorism” – even misdemeanors are classifiable as terrorist activity
• READ and understand the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!!!!
• Check out Ron Paul's book: Revolution: A Manifesto
• HR1955 – Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
• Executive Order 10995 – allows gov’t to seize and control communication media
• Executive Order 10997 – allows govt to seize and control all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals
• Exectutive Order 10999 – allows govt to take control of all food resources and farms
• Executive Order 11000 – allows govt to mobilize civilians into work brigades under govt supervision
• Executive Order 11001 – allows govt to take control of health, education, and welfare functions
• EO 11002 – designates the postmaster general to operate a national registration of all persons
• EO 10998 – allows the govt to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control of all highways, seaports, and waterways
• EO 11003 – allows the govt to take over all airports and aircraft
• EI 11004 – allows the housing authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations
• EO 11005 – allows govt to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities
• EO 11051 – specifies the Office of Emergency planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis
• EO 11310 – grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders
• EO 11921 – Allows FEMA to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money
• HR 8791 – Homeland Terrorism Preparedness Bill
3. Turn your T.V. back on and enjoy the puppet show.
You know what to do.
Dont sit and wonder why people are White Sepratists,and other people want to drop out of this culture.It shoulnt come as a surprise.
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What they did to us in Straight, while tragic and horrible, was a *very* small part of the Plan that is currently underway. We were merely lab rats in yet another mind control experiment, propagandized and funded by your (or more correctly you great-grandchildren's) tax dollars and the 80's war du jour (i.e. The War on Drugs), for the betterment of those that would seek to benefit from a world of complete and total control of any and all Commodities (yes, that includes you). It is still happening today, to innocent children, under their unsuspecting/well-meaning/brainwashed-parents' noses) albeit under a different banner of benevolence (e.g. Drug Free America, Evangelical Church, insert-organization-here, etc., ). Now, it is the 'War on 'Terror' . Who knows, maybe you are an 'enemy combatant' or a 'homegrown terrorist' just for reading this post..
There are but TWO primal human emotions.
1. Love
2. Fear
Fear is much more profitable.
They know this.
We MUST collectively migrate from 'victim' status (which is exactly where they want us) to 'empowered' status:
1. Turn off your f@&%ing T.V.
2. See for yourself. Empower yourself!!! Google / YouTube the following:
• Bilderberg Group
• Trilateral Commission
• Martial Law
• 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (Sec 1042)
• Blackwater
• Project 908
• Rex 84
• Operation Gardenplot (DoD Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2)
• Operation Cable Splicer
• HSPD-51
• HSPD-20
• Real ID Act
• RFID tracking module
• Verichip
• PLD – Personal Locaitng Device
• H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
• Military Commissions Act of 2006 (HR6054) - Allows Executive Branch to declare U.S. citizens unlawful enemy combatants
• John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 H.R. 5122 (2006) - effectively nullifies the limits of the The Insurrection Act
• Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
• 2009 Defense Authorization Bill
• Patriot Act - Section 802 “Definition of Domestic Terrorism” – even misdemeanors are classifiable as terrorist activity
• READ and understand the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!!!!
• Check out Ron Paul's book: Revolution: A Manifesto
• HR1955 – Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
• Executive Order 10995 – allows gov’t to seize and control communication media
• Executive Order 10997 – allows govt to seize and control all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals
• Exectutive Order 10999 – allows govt to take control of all food resources and farms
• Executive Order 11000 – allows govt to mobilize civilians into work brigades under govt supervision
• Executive Order 11001 – allows govt to take control of health, education, and welfare functions
• EO 11002 – designates the postmaster general to operate a national registration of all persons
• EO 10998 – allows the govt to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control of all highways, seaports, and waterways
• EO 11003 – allows the govt to take over all airports and aircraft
• EI 11004 – allows the housing authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations
• EO 11005 – allows govt to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities
• EO 11051 – specifies the Office of Emergency planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis
• EO 11310 – grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders
• EO 11921 – Allows FEMA to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money
• HR 8791 – Homeland Terrorism Preparedness Bill
3. Turn your T.V. back on and enjoy the puppet show.
You know what to do.
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Stash away guns food and ammo,if not for you then your children,medical and farming skills are fucking handy
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Stash away guns food and ammo
It's better to store bullets than food---you can use bullets to get food easier than you can use food to get bullets.
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This statement does not sound as an "oversimplifacation". To me it sounds like an announcement from the Department of the Obvious.
Hey Woof,
This made me laugh (because its true). Thanks for that - laughter is a commodity that has been in short supply in my neck of the woods lately.
Your response contained many of the same links I have collected as well in my ongoing research. I was careful not to include some of them in my initial post on this thread as we have been programmed to dismiss a sincere search for truth as behaviour associated with radical, fringe, un-patriotic conspiracy theorists. This is especially true for those of us who were prisoners in the CIA-funded 'war on drugs' thought-reform facilities. My son (who attends public school) and his fellow sheople/students even have a "special teacher" that he is to report any suspicious activity to that may be occurring at home. So I tried to stick to topics/links that were were based on hard, factual, and easily verifiable evidence via "reputable" sources. It appears that you (like me) are attempting to amalgamate a big picture view of what is actually going on. This is not something that can be distilled down to a single issue (911 comes to mind), as many "truth-seekers" would make it seem. Another challenge is that there is an abundance of well-funded disinformation being pushed - specifically targeted at this audience which seeks to discredit and distract us from the truth and/or serve conflicting agendas. In fact one of the things that I am starting to wonder about is whether the supra-government/financial elite players that are orchestrating all of this might not all be on the same page. Looks like there might actually be a war of sorts going on behind the war. What do you think Woof? Antigen?
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds - A. Einstein
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Stash away guns food and ammo,if not for you then your children,medical and farming skills are fucking handy
Buy:
6 mos. of food (grains, beans, canned goods (meat, vegetables), honey, sugar)
Supplements (multi-vitamins/minerals, Omega #'s, vitamin C, colloidal silver)
Bottled water
Dense nutrition food/energy bars
Basic hygiene supplies
Batteries, radio, lighter, flashlight/lanterns, walkie talkies
Heat/cooking source
A water purifier (camping grade that removes bacteria e.g. Berkey water purifier)
Shotgun and/or rifle & ammo
Heritage seeds
First aid supplies
Bonus: potassium iodate, respirator mask, radiation monitor
Cash in your retirement and buy gold/silver
If you live in/near a major metro city or a military base/DoD facility: Research how to shelter in place
Create a contact/meeting place/plan with your loved ones.
Have a supply of cash on hand (the banks might not be open when you need them to be and the ATMs have a withdrawal limit)
We are going to see several months of deflation followed by hyperinflation that will lead to a severe Depression; dollar will collapse followed by creation of a new form of currency and a new North American Union. Possible new engineered war/false flag/and/or pandemic to make things interesting (and motivate you to do what they say/justify the coming "Change you can believe in"). At this point your worst enemy will not be your government it will be your unprepared neighbor.
Good bye sovereignty, good bye Constitutional rights. Hello New World Order.
I hope I am wrong. And I anticipate replies letting me know just how wrong I am. And that's fine.
But you know what? Worst case: you were prepared. Best case: you were prepared.
Peace and Love.
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This statement does not sound as an "oversimplifacation". To me it sounds like an announcement from the Department of the Obvious.
Hey Woof,
This made me laugh (because its true). Thanks for that - laughter is a commodity that has been in short supply in my neck of the woods lately.
Your response contained many of the same links I have collected as well in my ongoing research. I was careful not to include some of them in my initial post on this thread as we have been programmed to dismiss a sincere search for truth as behaviour associated with radical, fringe, un-patriotic conspiracy theorists. This is especially true for those of us who were prisoners in the CIA-funded 'war on drugs' thought-reform facilities. My son (who attends public school) and his fellow sheople/students even have a "special teacher" that he is to report any suspicious activity to that may be occurring at home. So I tried to stick to topics/links that were were based on hard, factual, and easily verifiable evidence via "reputable" sources. It appears that you (like me) are attempting to amalgamate a big picture view of what is actually going on. This is not something that can be distilled down to a single issue (911 comes to mind), as many "truth-seekers" would make it seem. Another challenge is that there is an abundance of well-funded disinformation being pushed - specifically targeted at this audience which seeks to discredit and distract us from the truth and/or serve conflicting agendas. In fact one of the things that I am starting to wonder about is whether the supra-government/financial elite players that are orchestrating all of this might not all be on the same page. Looks like there might actually be a war of sorts going on behind the war. What do you think Woof? Antigen?
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds - A. Einstein
MyBrainNotYours---What do you think Woof?
You mentioned a few interesting things:
"tried to stick to topics/links that were were based on hard, factual, and easily verifiable evidence via "reputable" sources."
In an age of information, there is an opposite side to the coin, namely disinformation. The discriminating mind will read and digest both. The thinking mind will evaluate and hense judge the information as best suits thier inclinations, suspicions or notions.We are free to believe what we choose, and what we do attests to what we believe. As, mentioned before (can't recall if I said it in this post or not) Belief produces the acceptance of existence and this is why we believe what no one else thinks is true. For this we may be criticized, ridiculed, dismissed as you say as "conspiracy therorists" or more likely in this realm of discussion, "disgruntled former 'clients'".
And so, as I think I have found the "truth" on a particular subject, I must ask myself, if not train myself to ask...Now that I know the truth, do I really know the TRUTH? Everyone will defend the truth as a treasure, and will do so automatically. The real question becomes, What do I, you, we treasure, the truth or an assumption of truth? The closest I think I can come to an answer is but accepting the fact...I don't know. This alternating investment in thought, which creates varying levels of perception usually brings about internal conflict which can be very acute. And so, in regard to these types of issues I pigieon hole them as "entertainment"...not in the strictest sense, but as a way to not take "it" and myself too seriously so that "laughter" is not slowly choked out of my existance.
Birds have songs, wolves have songs, whales have songs...each I think stem from thier spirit. We as human beings also have a song that comes from our sprit...and this song is "laughter". Whether it is time spent with my beloved Maine Coons or watching my collection of The Three Stooges...for me, I must tend to my spirit and be true to that, abide in that and simply laugh. I can not afford the luxury of completely indulging in my own inquisitive, crtical, and observational mind. As history has shown, my well being, my internal landscape if you will becomes dark and dreary if from time to time I do not excuse myself from overly zealioused examination of these issues. But since it is part and parcel of my make up...I will always return to that search and continue examination...In short, I think it comes down to a matter of balance and maintaing such balance....which as you know is no easy task...but not impossible.
Peace is not only possible, but inevitable!
woof
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What do I think? One of my local acquaintances works in the public sector teen thought reform industry. When I first met him and asked him how that was he gave the pre-programmed "If we help just one kid...." to which I responded "Be mindful that you don't break ten of them in the course of helping that one." I've stayed on good terms with the dude. Not hard to do as I happen to fall into a role in his realm that he's ok with. And he's a very gregarious, freelance politician type anyway. More than that, though, I get the sense that this dude is very much for real. Reminds me of Che's role in the dark comedy--sincerely duped for a time, but true in the end. It's been about six months and I've had a few conversations with him and his wife about this. Last time I asked him how that was going, he said he was getting sick of it, starting to see what they're really doing down there and wants no more to do with it. This is half a lie. This is the kind of dude who will do something up close and personal about it if he's able to see the problem.
Hook into the realness of the people around you wherever you can find it.
Would love to say more, but I gotta go do my gig in the combine to keep it feeding me instead of using me for feedstock for the moment. I'll keep a sharp eye out for more trustworthy souls.
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Peace is not only possible, but inevitable!
True... :poison: :karma: :peace: :karma: :poison:
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where would the manpower to do allthis,controlling and occupation come from, to control all those things at one time seems a tall order,besides .
The same place it always comes from...and to borrow a little sing-song saying from an old friend, who I think originally got it from Kurt Vonnegut: "Nice, nice, very nice, all of the people in the same device", and when you sing it your supposed to take your hands and hold them in front of you so that your palms are facing your chest, with your fingers stretched so that they interlock like the gears of a clock. Now you just turn your wrists and sing!! Have fun and enjoy. ;D
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I have a SHITLOAD o guns and ammo and am lookin to go off the grid cause I am disgusted with a lot of shit.Fuck this culture its been shot and forgot to fall down.I got a couple of parting shots to take yet ,then Im done.
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In this post, regarding speculations, I am referring to those made about Straight, including the thread title.
I get really angry about this kind of thread. Do any of the people posting here have proof, like CIA or FBI Freedom of Information Act Searches that PROVE that there were more ultimate goals than simply those exercised at the time of operation, ie, recruitment, control of clients, propagation of program? I mean, people here making statements like "information was gathered", well does that mean personal information? Or what?
I'm not angry because I don't think it is POSSIBLE, nor because I don't like slander of US Government entities. Also, I have no proof that is IS slander.
People ought to be clear about their speculations. Whether this response is rational or not, sometimes I feel like screaming at people who post these kinds of speculations. If you have the facts, post them. If you have the documents proving your specific conjectures, post them. Otherwise it's false advertisement, it's hype, it is not fair to people who have suffered so much. But hey, I SPECULATE as well.
Also, I don't get the back and forth betw Woof and Anti regarding the Nixon Ford administration. That congress document said, this is thought reform, and we can't put govt money into it, and, if I have correct notes, it said therefore we have to stop giving govt money to The Seed.
Set aside taking personally this poster's emotional reaction to some of the contents of this thread. I find memories especially painful recently. I am frustrated by the lack of real, solid information about what they were doing and why. I SPECULATE that specific scenarios of torture were played out on certain victims, whether for future game or for an even darker brainwashing/mind control tactic simply ingrained into the "game" being played there.
Whether or not anyone's speculations are accurate, I think the overarching theme of this post might be that the abuse continues for us, no matter how long ago we were in one of the Straight programs, while those who perpetrated what they did still have "the information" and don't give it to us. We don't have closure, which, after being tortured in this Stadt, we should have. We absolutely should have all information. It is inhuman that we do not have all the information. I am angry about this. Who are the watchdogs of such malice aforethought and fraud against citizens? Who are the watchdogs?
Sometimes I think of Straight as sort of like a hyper-blast of a certain culture. So now it's like, oh no, I'm sick of some or many things in the culture I live in, I already ate way too much of that.
Anyways, it isn't helpful to get "information" that is only speculation, but it does reveal the deficit. I also consider that people might be referring obliquely to something personal they know about, like a specific piece of personal information Straight got and used against them later. I can see they might have really wanted to do this to staff to keep them shut up when they did leave Straight. If people don't want to post such personal examples, I can get that. If they have discussed amongst themselves and found some patterns there but don't really want to talk about personal examples, I can get that.
Just don't paint walls around people, don't tell them where the new sets of double doors are and shit. It isn't responsible. 'Cause, at least on rainy days, we could have stopped into the warehouse and played some basketball, and that's all.
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Hey Guest, welcome. I'm not sure why you're so angry about this discussion, but I apologize for pissing you off anyway.
For what it's worth, here's my take on the cold hard facts behind this speculation. We will never, ever have access to them unless and until the union falls to some foreign or domestic enemy, and even then we'll never be able to tell for certain what is truth, what is disinformation and what is just plain error. I do think, though, that there is enough circumstantial evidence to support a solid assumption that certain factions of our government had a hand in propagating the Program under various names and venues; that they gathered research data and have used and continue to use the results for whatever purpose black ops type secret agencies do these days.
I no longer get really angry with people who get angry with me for saying so, unless I'm pissy drunk and forget manners (which I'm not at the moment).
Speculation is part of the process of research and discovery. Check out Linchpin's clever method of confirming a hunch here viewtopic.php?p=318829#p318829 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=318829#p318829) ROFL Crude, but effective. I've used essentially the same method and come up with a hit from time to time googling [some org or person's name that gives me that Zippety Doo Dah feeling] DFAF or some other organization or person's name. In science, it's the theory phase of research. First you make a guess, then you think about and discuss various ways to prove or disprove it then you set about testing the theory. Most of the time you never actually get down to absolute provable fact. If we only allow ourselves to accept and act on proven fact we'd never act at all.
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I am not sure if this is any help here, but I finally found that damn letter Dr. Schwartz sent out to the Springfield VA branch clients 4 years after my treatment. (I threw mine away, dammit, thinking at the time that it was complete crap, and by then I had drank etc... so. Damn! I wish I had kept that... Oh well, here's what I have now... don't remember where I got it though, but it's 100% real. Schwartz, who by the way still works with the DFAF, (according to the dfaf.org site) even offered $5 each name provided to him and well... here's an excerpt, let me know if this is one of those "research" things people have been looking for...
"October 21, 1988
Dear friends,
blah blah.. then... 'Research is often frustrating work. I had hoped for a better response. While about 100 young adults such as yourself did help out, I need an additional 70 people to complete the questionnaire. I'm enclosing a list of people who did not as yet complete the questionnaire. Perhaps you could help me once again and write a letter or place a telephone call to one or more of your former friends on the list. (I have most of their addresses if you need them). For every person you convince to help me I will pay you a finders fee of $5.00. One week after that person sends his or her completed questionnaire to Dr. Hoffman in St. Paul Minnesota, send a note to let me know you helped out and I will mail a check for $5 to you and also to the person who completed the questionnaire."
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In this post, regarding speculations, I am referring to those made about Straight, including the thread title.
I get really angry about this kind of thread. Do any of the people posting here have proof, like CIA or FBI Freedom of Information Act Searches that PROVE that there were more ultimate goals than simply those exercised at the time of operation, ie, recruitment, control of clients, propagation of program? I mean, people here making statements like "information was gathered", well does that mean personal information? Or what?
I'm not angry because I don't think it is POSSIBLE, nor because I don't like slander of US Government entities. Also, I have no proof that is IS slander.
People ought to be clear about their speculations. Whether this response is rational or not, sometimes I feel like screaming at people who post these kinds of speculations. If you have the facts, post them. If you have the documents proving your specific conjectures, post them. Otherwise it's false advertisement, it's hype, it is not fair to people who have suffered so much. But hey, I SPECULATE as well.
Also, I don't get the back and forth betw Woof and Anti regarding the Nixon Ford administration. That congress document said, this is thought reform, and we can't put govt money into it, and, if I have correct notes, it said therefore we have to stop giving govt money to The Seed.
Set aside taking personally this poster's emotional reaction to some of the contents of this thread. I find memories especially painful recently. I am frustrated by the lack of real, solid information about what they were doing and why. I SPECULATE that specific scenarios of torture were played out on certain victims, whether for future game or for an even darker brainwashing/mind control tactic simply ingrained into the "game" being played there.
Whether or not anyone's speculations are accurate, I think the overarching theme of this post might be that the abuse continues for us, no matter how long ago we were in one of the Straight programs, while those who perpetrated what they did still have "the information" and don't give it to us. We don't have closure, which, after being tortured in this Stadt, we should have. We absolutely should have all information. It is inhuman that we do not have all the information. I am angry about this. Who are the watchdogs of such malice aforethought and fraud against citizens? Who are the watchdogs?
Sometimes I think of Straight as sort of like a hyper-blast of a certain culture. So now it's like, oh no, I'm sick of some or many things in the culture I live in, I already ate way too much of that.
Anyways, it isn't helpful to get "information" that is only speculation, but it does reveal the deficit. I also consider that people might be referring obliquely to something personal they know about, like a specific piece of personal information Straight got and used against them later. I can see they might have really wanted to do this to staff to keep them shut up when they did leave Straight. If people don't want to post such personal examples, I can get that. If they have discussed amongst themselves and found some patterns there but don't really want to talk about personal examples, I can get that.
Just don't paint walls around people, don't tell them where the new sets of double doors are and shit. It isn't responsible. 'Cause, at least on rainy days, we could have stopped into the warehouse and played some basketball, and that's all.
Guest---As I believe I mentioned in this thread....Once I "know" the 'truth'...I have to ask myself....Do I now really know the truth? Speculation, sure, absolutely...Facts, supressed. Have you ever read anything de-classified, or obtained from the Freedom of Information Act? 3/4 of the information is blacked out, usualy names, places and monetary amounts.
It is not my wish to anger or "slander"...But understand, forover 30 years I have had a handful of DOTS in my hands. And after 3 decades of holding these dots, I am beginning to connect them. Does this effort mean I am 100% accurate? Does it imply that I know for absolutel certainty what I am discussing ....no. My hope is to conect these DOTS and perhaps stir about thought and discussion. Perhaps somene with more time on there hands than myself can carry the ball further and take the hours upon hours it would take to read thru reams of information that may or may not have anything to do with the discussion at hand.
I am not claiming to be 100% correct in my ascertations (sp)...but I am free to speculate, have hunches and theroies. These are the first steps in investagations...Follow up is another matter. There are those more qualified in that arena. I have met guys here who were my newcommers that are now lawyers and there are certainly others that frequent these boards...who also endured what we all went thru...thier training maybe best suited to dig for the facts....because, thats what they do and they know how...Me? I am just a rat-catcher...with a thinking, discriminating, inquisitive mind trying to piece together why and what happened to my teenage years and the rest of my life...Call me wrong...I am ok with that....
More latter when my better half isnt calling me from the car to take her to breakfast... :wall:
Much Healing
In Peace
woof
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I am not sure if this is any help here, but I finally found that damn letter Dr. Schwartz sent out to the Springfield VA branch clients 4 years after my treatment. (I threw mine away, dammit, thinking at the time that it was complete crap, and by then I had drank etc... so. Damn! I wish I had kept that... Oh well, here's what I have now... don't remember where I got it though, but it's 100% real. Schwartz, who by the way still works with the DFAF, (according to the dfaf.org site) even offered $5 each name provided to him and well... here's an excerpt, let me know if this is one of those "research" things people have been looking for...
"October 21, 1988
Dear friends,
blah blah.. then... 'Research is often frustrating work. I had hoped for a better response. While about 100 young adults such as yourself did help out, I need an additional 70 people to complete the questionnaire. I'm enclosing a list of people who did not as yet complete the questionnaire. Perhaps you could help me once again and write a letter or place a telephone call to one or more of your former friends on the list. (I have most of their addresses if you need them). For every person you convince to help me I will pay you a finders fee of $5.00. One week after that person sends his or her completed questionnaire to Dr. Hoffman in St. Paul Minnesota, send a note to let me know you helped out and I will mail a check for $5 to you and also to the person who completed the questionnaire."
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That is really disturbing that Schwarz "have most of their addresses". But enlightening. ..... Perhaps Schwarz would like to do some more "follow-up" research. We know where he is, does he know where we are? Thinking about how to approach letting his Advanced Pediatrics clientele know what kind of a child abuse advocate he is. Yes, that is right, I am thinking about it. And spawning the idea of other people thinking about it. These people COULD apologize, acknowledge wrongdoing, but they choose not to, and so I guess that makes people who are still thinking about the seriousness of what was done to them in Straight the watchdogs of these people. Not that we are official or know exactly what to do about it.
Also, where is that doctor Puglisi now, what was his first name?
Also Ginger could I possibly get my computer back from you I need it.
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That is really disturbing that Schwarz "have most of their addresses". But enlightening. ..... Perhaps Schwarz would like to do some more "follow-up" research.
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What they did to us in Straight, while tragic and horrible, was a *very* small part of the Plan that is currently underway. We were merely lab rats in yet another mind control experiment, propagandized and funded by your (or more correctly you great-grandchildren's) tax dollars and the 80's war du jour (i.e. The War on Drugs), for the betterment of those that would seek to benefit from a world of complete and total control of any and all Commodities (yes, that includes you). It is still happening today, to innocent children, under their unsuspecting/well-meaning/brainwashed-parents' noses) albeit under a different banner of benevolence (e.g. Drug Free America, Evangelical Church, insert-organization-here, etc., ). Now, it is the 'War on 'Terror' . Who knows, maybe you are an 'enemy combatant' or a 'homegrown terrorist' just for reading this post..
There are but TWO primal human emotions.
1. Love
2. Fear
Fear is much more profitable.
They know this.
We MUST collectively migrate from 'victim' status (which is exactly where they want us) to 'empowered' status:
1. Turn off your f@&%ing T.V.
2. See for yourself. Empower yourself!!! Google / YouTube the following:
• Bilderberg Group
• Trilateral Commission
• Martial Law
• 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (Sec 1042)
• Blackwater
• Project 908
• Rex 84
• Operation Gardenplot (DoD Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2)
• Operation Cable Splicer
• HSPD-51
• HSPD-20
• Real ID Act
• RFID tracking module
• Verichip
• PLD – Personal Locaitng Device
• H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
• Military Commissions Act of 2006 (HR6054) - Allows Executive Branch to declare U.S. citizens unlawful enemy combatants
• John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 H.R. 5122 (2006) - effectively nullifies the limits of the The Insurrection Act
• Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
• 2009 Defense Authorization Bill
• Patriot Act - Section 802 “Definition of Domestic Terrorism” – even misdemeanors are classifiable as terrorist activity
• READ and understand the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!!!!
• Check out Ron Paul's book: Revolution: A Manifesto
• HR1955 – Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
• Executive Order 10995 – allows gov’t to seize and control communication media
• Executive Order 10997 – allows govt to seize and control all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals
• Exectutive Order 10999 – allows govt to take control of all food resources and farms
• Executive Order 11000 – allows govt to mobilize civilians into work brigades under govt supervision
• Executive Order 11001 – allows govt to take control of health, education, and welfare functions
• EO 11002 – designates the postmaster general to operate a national registration of all persons
• EO 10998 – allows the govt to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control of all highways, seaports, and waterways
• EO 11003 – allows the govt to take over all airports and aircraft
• EI 11004 – allows the housing authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations
• EO 11005 – allows govt to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities
• EO 11051 – specifies the Office of Emergency planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis
• EO 11310 – grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders
• EO 11921 – Allows FEMA to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money
• HR 8791 – Homeland Terrorism Preparedness Bill
3. Turn your T.V. back on and enjoy the puppet show.
You know what to do.
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Err.. My off the grid, wintery Mt, Extreme Northern, self sustaining community/~bunker isn't looking so bad 0.o I just can't seem to get out of this insanity we all live in everyday to get there...
ps: living the lie to get by... is not very fulfilling...but we are programmed to do it and I don't know how to get off the hamster wheel anymore.. I have lost my way, temporarliy
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Err.. My off the grid, wintery Mt, Extreme Northern, self sustaining community/~bunker isn't looking so bad 0.o I just can't seem to get out of this insanity we all live in everyday to get there...
ps: living the lie to get by... is not very fulfilling...but we are programmed to do it and I don't know how to get off the hamster wheel anymore.. I have lost my way, temporarliy
Seems that even if we quit the rat race or even if we win the rat race...we are still...rats. Domesticated (trapped), or feral...still rats. All in all, I will always perfer to to be the feral (wild, free) rat.
Withdraw<3---the final word in your post is key...."temporary". We can not allow ourselves to be deluded into thinking what is only "temporary" is perminate. And "Living the lie to get by" isnt that just a denial of sorts? Saying what aint, is and saying what is, ain't. Shakespear (sp) wrote "and above all else to thine own self be true". Which is great advice, but first shouldn't we find and know the "self" that we are to be true to? Self examination, introspection... arn't we worthy of these actions? The eyes are designed to look outward, but when we look inward it throws our thinking (our programming), our view of the outside when we see the truth of our insides. May we find that "truth" of our insides and abide in that, then perhaps we will have that "~bunker" and not seek it elsewhere...especially outside of ourselves.
Much Healing
In Peace
woof
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OK strap in fellow Straight Survivors, cause we're in for a very, very, bumpy ride. The (systematically planned, beautifully orchestrated) hyperinflation is just about to kick in, and things are going to get very interesting in '09. Also be prepared for one or more false flag ops here in the "homeland" that will convince the sheeple to (enthusiastically, and yes, desperately) surrender what is left of our constitutional/civil liberties (LA, Chicago, and other cities?? --think police-state). Bailout/Mumbai was just the beginning and sets the precedent to sick the $$$ war machine on Pakistan and eventually Iran (which is all about petro-dollars and NWO agenda, NOT terrorism). Also be ready for bio-terror (disguised as a horrible, 'unexpected' outbreak of H2H bird flu, smallpox, or other CDC designer pandemic) in order to bring world population down to manageable, "controllable", levels of human work-units. Maybe even unblamable "natural" disaster acts of desperation (earthquakes, tsunamis).
This is the coup de grace, so to speak, and they will stop at nothing to ensure their success at establishing a global world order.
Make no mistake. They have thought of everything. Every contingency. Every possible obstacle to their success for total control of ALL of the earth's resources:
Money. Energy. Food. Weather. That is the easy part (i.e. The Fed/IMF/World Bank, OPEC, Codex/GMOs, HAARP). But the wild card is The People. Especially YOU. Yes you, Synanon/Seed/Straight & Derivatives, Teen Abuse Industry Survivors, et. al). YOU are a potential (huge) potential liability. Why do you think hundreds of thousands of us Indigo Children were imprisoned in these CIA / Illuminati-sponsored mind-control "re-education" programs? Why do you think the Bush regime (with their public television commercials) and the British monarchy (remember when sweet Princess Di paid us a visit in Springfield?, uh, before she rebelled against the evil she was embroiled in as was subsequently murdered) BOTH publicly supported the War on Drugs and, specifically, Straight Inc. ??? Note Bro Jeb Bush still keeping agenda going strong in Florida and Drug Free America proudly flying the banner across the Homeland right up to current day fighting the good fight...
Why do you you think so many beautiful, intelligent, free-spirited, human beings who not only questioned tyranny, but rebelled against it, were (and still are) systematically rounded up en-mass and subjected to scientifically engineered heinous mind-control techniques and prolonged torture that undermine self-determination, self-confidence, and self-empowerment (not to mention immediately discredit us from any and all future appeal/objection on the basis of us being drug addicts/mentally ill)?!? We who KNEW within our minds and hearts, even as children, that something was WRONG with the so-called norm... WE are who they truly fear, for if WE were to all collectively WAKE UP from the horrendous, maniacal, insidious mind-fuck that they have imprisoned us within, then WE would, quite easily, take back the liberty, freedom, and power that they so covet and abuse, and return it to its proper place. To us, The People, and to the earth. We are the true spirits, the lights they so desperately seek to extinguish with their darkness. WE are the true light beings, and the Stewards of the Earth. Each and every one of you reading this knows this Truth within the deepest part of your Self. It is time for us to wake up and remember this. The time is now. Join me in the decision to reject FEAR and unite in LOVE, and help to change the course of humanity.
We have all volunteered and have been chosen to be on earth during this very special time, and it is important that we realize that everything we have been through has been leading up to and preparing us for this. The ultimate irony here is that their evil plan of enslavement is precisely what will lead to their undoing, for this is what has brought us together.
Regarding the horrible events I have alluded to - God I hope I am wrong. And I truly believe that our collective consciousness can actually CHANGE the course that we are on. I know it may sound crazy, but if we just take 10 minutes a day to meditate and send out LOVE...I believe we posses so much more in the way of powerful (spiritual) healing energy than many of us reallize.... I am not advocating religion here, in fact organized religion is ( in a big way) part of the problem. And on a more practical level - write/call your representatives. Let your voice be heard. And wake up your friends and family, so that they may help, and be prepared. And do whatever you can afford to do to prepare. For yourself and your family.
Peace and Love :peace: . -Y ( StraightSurvivorVA - yes, it's me, back from the dead :) )
P.S. The 900+ views on this thread gives me pause...Hey guys, old friends...yes I know you are reading this too, please, let me go, I mean no harm..
To those of you who believe (like I used to) that you are working for the DoD to "protect the U.S. from enemies, both foreign and domestic". Please THINK about who you are REALLY working for. I urge to to READ the Constitution. And then LOOK around you. And research the legislation that has been passed in the recent past which literally erases your rights as a U.S. citizen and as a human being, which has reduced you and your children to mind and debt slavery, not free citizenship. And really critically think about the pretext for, and agenda behind, the unwinnable "wars" we are waging. And look at the looting of your hard-earned life savings, not to mention that of your parents. And compare what you see on mainstream U.S. media newa with that of the rest of the world (before they censor the internet for your "safety"). And then do a little research into the Illuminati, Council on Foreign Relations, International Monetary Fund, Federal Reserve, Bilderberg, etc, etc. Who do you really think has been calling the shots?? Be a tool/puppet no more! Make our Founding Fathers proud, and stand up for freedom - physical, mental, and spiritual.
Be a patriot, NOT a nationalist. Just say NO to the New World Order!!!
Please do not misunderstand. I LOVE my country. I served my country. I love the Republic that my patriot ancestors fought and died for. It represents everything that I stand for. They were, in fact, acutely aware of the evil that threatened our freedom, which is precisely why they wrote the Constitution. And, for a beautiful moment in history, they overcame the evil of these tyrants, who have reared their ugly head yet again. Our founding fathers saw this coming. Let us not disappoint them.
"Soldiers are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." -Dr. Henry Kissinger
“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.” - Dr. Henry Kissinger, 1991.
“The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a bit longer.” -Dr. Henry Kissinger
“Let me issue and control a nations money and I care not who writes the laws.” - Mayer Amschel Rothschild
“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government.” - Thomas Jefferson
“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. - Thomas Jefferson
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” - Thomas Jefferson
“All men having power ought to be mistrusted.” - James Madison
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison
“Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” - Albert Einstein
“It is dangerous to be right when government is wrong.” - Voltaire
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell
Antigen, Psy - please repost in other appropriate forum(s) at your discretion - I post here as a Str8 survivor, but my message is for all spirits who have been artificially repressed/controlled through intimidation, abuse, and fear.
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Peace and Love :peace: . -Y ( StraightSurvivorVA - yes, it's me, back from the dead :) )
Welcome back, Yv! Great post!!!
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Have no fear, the King is here... Obama will take care of you. His name is only 5 letters though, hmmm. Look at the bright side you know, Free everything, food for all, jobs, you name it, it's yours. Reach for the stars folks, not for your guns :roflmao: Wear a dust mask, you'll be safe. Just stockpile a few cases of your favorite drink somewhere you can get to after the stampede is over. Life will go on, just might not be the way that's most appealing.
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Have no fear, the King is here... Obama will take care of you. His name is only 5 letters though, hmmm. Look at the bright side you know, Free everything, food for all, jobs, you name it, it's yours. Reach for the stars folks, not for your guns :roflmao: Wear a dust mask, you'll be safe. Just stockpile a few cases of your favorite drink somewhere you can get to after the stampede is over. Life will go on, just might not be the way that's most appealing.
You're on drugs, get a grip.
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Get a grip? I can't, your hand's in the way: :sue:
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Get a grip? I can't, your hand's in the way: :sue:
HAHA!!! There's a party in your mouth and everyone's coming!