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Facility Question and Answers / Eckerd Academy
« on: September 19, 2007, 02:39:14 PM »
I am looking for info about this place to dissuade a friend of a friend from working there.  He has a good heart and genuinely wants to help kids, and knows little about it.  I found Michael Wiltsie and passed that story on and am looking for any other information.  Thank you.

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Public Sector Gulags / Regarding Eckard
« on: September 19, 2007, 02:31:01 PM »
And okay, I've found Michael Wiltsie's story, and FloridaTreasure's as well and am passing it on, please give me anything else you know.  Thanks.

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Public Sector Gulags / Regarding Eckard
« on: September 19, 2007, 01:55:02 PM »
A friend of a friend is looking at a postion at one of these places.  he's a good guy, and I want to present hard evidence as to why he won't be "helping kids" at Eckerd...can anyone give me any info?  I'm a straight survivor and everything about this place's website smells bad to me, however I don't have any personal knowledge of it.  Thanks.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / You ADDICT you!!!
« on: July 13, 2007, 11:44:31 PM »
I don't know the quote but I get what you're saying.

I think that's also due to the disconnect that has to happen to let someone get to that point, you have to stop recogonizing your own humanity, and then others'.  We stopped feeling the wrongness and the way it hurt, cut ourselves off entirely from it, and then we can cut off from it when other people suffer.  Isn't the point when that happened the point when we were truly broken?  It seems like it's where I lost the most.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: You ADDICT you!!!
« on: July 13, 2007, 02:06:09 PM »
Quote from: ""Froderik""
Of course, in their eyes we were getting the "help" we so desperately "needed."


 I wonder how many of them really think that.  I mean, I know most of staff had been totally broken and did believe that.  But I think closer to the top, and in the cases of some parents, there was some pure fucking evil Nurse Ratchet shit going on, and they really were just enjoying crushing us.

  I watched Harry Potter 5 the other night, and the Dolores Umbridge character has me remembering a few sickeningly sweet smiles while people were in pain.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: You ADDICT you!!!
« on: July 13, 2007, 07:37:29 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Don't let me outsmart you. This only teaches me to avoid responsibility, and to lose respect for you at the same time.


 Are they claiming "chemically dependent persons" are unique in this regard?  Sounds more like a fucking politician or corporate ceo to me...

  All the things listed are things most people do at some point or another and part of being fucking human.  The amount of guilt that has been installed in us for our very humanity is, on its own, criminal.

 Learned helplessness, indeed. Most kids in these programs are there because they're clear (or if not clear, they can feel it and are reacting to it) on how fucked-up the world we live in is and don't see a good reason to try and conform to it.  They were trying to beat the fight out of us and send us back 1984ed, not only clear on our guilt but loving and thanking the ones that had broken us.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Ruined For Life
« on: May 23, 2007, 10:43:56 PM »
I got some counseling- it helped a little.  I also stopped being scared of who I was and decided the things I was doing to keep myself "safe" were hurting me as opposed to sparing me pain.  I stopped trying to avoid pain and just let myself feel it.  It wasn't as scary as I thought it would be...that helped more than counseling.  I stay the fuck away from 12 step programs, organized religion, and anything that claims to have an answer.  I've just sort of accepted that there isn't one.

 I'm not saying I'm entirely okay.  I'm still terrified of things (like making a mistake) and have a really  hard time putting things every one else just seems to "get" into context.  But I try not to freak out about it, and I don't feel like I'm living in prison anymore.  I've also developed the capacity to have intimate relationships that aren't charecterized by alternate bouts of clinging on like a drowning person and shoving the other person far, far away.  I'll take it.

  I hope you find some peace.  The fact that you're trying is hopeful.  This shit never entirely disapears, but a lot of us have learned to be relatively alright, and I think you can too.  Good luck and keep us posted.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / The program is on the outside.
« on: May 11, 2007, 07:46:40 PM »
There's no such thing as a "utopian government", that's an oxymoron.

 If some of our socities are sick, we're all gonna be sick.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / The program is on the outside.
« on: May 04, 2007, 08:43:20 PM »
When I told a friend about straight years ago, she said "wow, it's them forcing you to be everything they try to teach you at school".  Yeah.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / the disturbing trailer
« on: April 24, 2007, 11:25:29 AM »
errr, so much for html....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLy7z-2tbAA

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / the disturbing trailer
« on: April 24, 2007, 11:23:33 AM »

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Don Robinson and Vicki Winebarger
« on: April 03, 2007, 02:50:44 AM »
Yes, aside from perpetuating the abuse of hundreds of children, Don was cool.   I even stood up in the little fucking corner they kept me in to motivate and wish him well at his goodbye rap.

 I have no idea what Laura is thinking, but I hope one day she comes to her senses.  That's taken most of us varying degrees of time to do.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Wikipedia - pathway is no longer on
« on: April 01, 2007, 12:13:03 PM »
I didn't follow that whole thing, but if what you need is someone to post that on wikipedia for you, I can do that.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / despite the fact that I stopped reading on the 3rd page...
« on: March 29, 2007, 11:19:17 PM »
...because it's apparently been too long since I did acid, I felt moved to quote Ammon Hennacy on the subject of laws.

 "the good people don't need 'em, and the bad people don't obey 'em, so what use are they anyway?"

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Psychology of torture
« on: January 05, 2007, 04:38:26 PM »
Straight was my "planet" or whatever for a while,  now I'm learning not to let it define me.  Because I have a choice, even if it's hard.  Really fucking hard.

  The fact  that we were all complicit, that all but a very few of us participated in  each others' abuse, is part of what's so hard about this.  I've found forgiving others has helped me to forgive myself*, and that for that reason it's worth it.  I don't want to walk around  hurt, angry and empty anymore, even as I accept that sometimes I will always feel that.  It'll always be part of me, I just don't want it to be the biggest part.



*This excludes you, Karla Schupp...I'm holding out for a fucking apology from you.

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