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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "The Interview"
« on: December 01, 2001, 07:28:45 PM »
Re: I'm up for that!
I am pretty sure I can get him, and I am up to it. My issue is procedurly how do we handle it?  Kathy & Ginger, this is where I need you.  Do we do it here, or would it be better on the email system?  Do I take a list of questions submitted beforehand, transcribe them, and then send them across the email system? My gut feeling is that a real time interview is best because we can adjust questions to the direction it is going. I am an excellent typist and I can type the question and then the answer, at least for about an hour. Or do we go in a different direction and have a panel discussion with my father taking direct questions?

 I would like to start it with a list of questions from way back and let the interview develop.  My fathers mind is a well of historical information that has remained untaped to date. Lets figure this one out and proceed. Once we solve the procedural questions, I would like to discuss other issues surrounding this, and in the meantime I will approach him about this.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "The Interview"
« on: December 01, 2001, 11:01:05 PM »
"The Interview"
Hello everyone. Sorry  about my long absence. I have been very busy with my personal life and my business.


Anyway, I had an idea the other day and need feedback.  For those of you whom know, I was in the Seed in 1973, and my father and his "friends" started the straight out of the ashes of the failed St Pete Seed.  His "friends" included Ray Waymire, Mel & Betty Sembler (btw, they were my stepbrothers Oldcomers), Helen Peterman, and the rest.The straight was going to be the new kinder gentler Seed.My dad recently told me the Straight was not Mel's idea, but another of the board members.  My father is perhaps the last living hope of getting the real story behind the story,


My father is now in his late 70s. I have talked to him recently about this, and while not squarely in our camp, he nevertheless understands what we are doing.


I am thinking about approaching him for an interview,and am considering an "open forum" discussion interview, perhaps right here on this site. Wes, Ginger, Kathy, Ken, are you listening? Imagine, my father logged on sitting beside me, and taking open questions on this board?


Is it possible?  if so, lets do it.  I believe I can make it happen, and I am up to it emotionally and otherwise.

Comments  please.


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Re: Bill W. banned
Well, the other side of the story has been told ad neasum for 30 something years. neither one of you have said one new word.  AARc or whateverthefuckitiscalled sucks and is the same synanon crap under a different label that eveyone of these seed imitators says is so new and different and sucessfull.. And no, I am no relapsed junkie or any other name you wanna call people whom have taken a critical look at the program. Take your program baiting and shove it up your arse, boys. No one has or will ban your "opinion", we are just sick of hearing the same old line for the last 30 years. Try coming up with something new and maybe someone here will be interested in what you have to say.


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Re: Bill W. banned
Well, the other side of the story has been told ad neasum for 30 something years. neither one of you have said one new word.  AARc or whateverthefuckitiscalled sucks and is the same synanon crap under a different label that eveyone of these seed imitators says is so new and different and sucessfull.. And no, I am no relapsed junkie or any other name you wanna call people whom have taken a critical look at the program. Take your program baiting and shove it up your arse, boys. No one has or will ban your "opinion", we are just sick of hearing the same old line for the last 30 years. Try coming up with something new and maybe someone here will be interested in what you have to say.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Live at Last...
« on: December 02, 2001, 12:42:04 AM »
message to journey
HELLO, Journey,

EMAIL ME AT [email protected].  I would like to discuss something with you


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Growing Together of Lake Worth, Florida
« on: November 01, 2001, 04:36:39 PM »
Re: Dear old uncle Joe
"Worse case, if he survives this treatment and will take him (as you say) 15 years to get right again, that implies that we will be alive 15 years from now, and that is good news. It certainly beats the alternative."


This statement assumes that the "rehab" really works.  I am here to say it does not.  I know very many graduates of these various programs, and most of them use drugs after graduating, some with a vengence.  Recapturing your free will often means thumbing your nose at your capturs,and returning to drug use seems to be the easiest method.

One of my best friends died with a needle in his arm, an apparent intentional overdose/suicide. He graduated at the same time i did.. Other graduates I knew are still messed up, some not.  Think about all the kids that used drugs when we were coming up and think about them now. Most have grown out of the destructive behaviors of their youth. Hopefully your son/daughter will also. Tragically, some die. No program can prevent that, and no amount of brainwashing will ever cure anybody, it just substitutes one set of problems for another, and sometimes makes things much worse.

By the way, my name is Greg,a  program graduate,  and I haven't posted in a long, long time. I was in "treatment" some 27 years ago in a place called the seed, the predecessor to the straight and the place where you son is now.  I personally knew the founder of Growing together and the "straight"  Are you aware that they both were derived from the same model, a st pete/ft lauderdale drug rehab called the Seed?


Good luck with your child, and I sincerely hope that your relationship with him isn't permanently marred by this. You see, broken families is the real legacy of these programs, not drug free kids.


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