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The Troubled Teen Industry / Peninsula Village
« on: November 29, 2007, 12:13:16 PM »
Person be talking at Axtda be talking right into the hands o PV-ya heard?
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Calm down, Whootie, you sound agitated. Have a drink.[/b]
I tend to focus on PV - you don't see me commenting on ASR, I don't have an informed opinion. Yet you'll come onto a thread about PV and question the validity of ISAC's warning list as it applies to PV and programs in general. The analogy of parental discipline was weak, so very weak.
Quote from: ""ZenAgent""Never went near her, my step daughter never got out of lockdown.
What is the point of cyber-stalking a counselor who never hurt your daughter?
Ah, Captain Clueless comes in with his usual brand of bullshit.
NATSAP was blown out of the water early and never recovered. Something tells me they're not going to be taken seriously in the future.
And the actual conversation where Kutz said "thousands of cases" went like this:
Kutz: "Thousands of cases of deaths and abuse."
Panel guy: "Thousands of deaths?"
Kutz (correcting him immediately): "And abuse." (paraphrasing begins now) "We don't have figures of how many deaths, because there's no central tabulation at the state or federal level."
Of course he doesn't have hard numbers you fucktwit- he can't get them. What's he going to do, go around and ask every single county in every single state where a program exists, and try to find out where each one died?
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Is de-escalation too humane, time consuming, and/or too much of a bother for lazy staff?
Do they prefer restraint because the goal actually isn't to help kids, but to overpower them, break their will and establish authority?
Those administering the restraints aren't any more mature than the kids they are restraining.
Why after decades of restraint deaths isn't there a consistent policy?
Does it take a federal ban on restraint to stop the unnecessary brutal deaths of kids?