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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Antigen on February 01, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
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Does Whitmore have anything like parent support groups? Or do they recomend anything like EST?
If not, that would be another significant difference between them and the WWASP type programs.
But I'm wondering what's behind those letters of support that I saw on Woodbury Reports. Here's the link http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... index.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/lettertoeditor/whitmoreindex.html)
Anyone have any ideas about how these folks came to know the Sudweeks were in trouble and in need of a flash crowd of supporters?
All I ask is equal freedom. When it is denied, as it always is, I take it anyhow.
--H.L. Mencken
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Beats me how they all got together and wrote those support letters, but you sure don't want to reply to any of them. I made that mistake, and replied to the email address given, and wrote to one of them asking a question. I got ripped to shreds. Lots of anger there.
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Really? What were they angry about?
An individual who should survive his physical death is beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls.
--Albert Einstein
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chris again.. mark and cheryl asked for people to write letters if they were happy with the whitmore.. also the parents started their own discussion board which mark and cheryl have no access to.
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Thanks Chris. How do you know that Mark and Cheryl don't have access?
Don't take this the wrong way, please. I'm not saying it's not true. Just trying to guague the liklihood. Do you have access?No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the sources of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.
P. J. O'Rourke
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The supportive parents' anger was just weird stuff to me. Sort of like if anyone could possible believe anything negative about the Sudweeks then they naturally had to be attack from all angles. Like "how dare you ask anything about the Sudweeks....they are a gift from God... you people saying they abused kids will pay...you are a liar..." OR "Who are you? You don't know Mark and Cheryl, I do!" That kind of thing. Any one with an opinion not supportive of the Sudweeks is just wrong in their opinion and will not have a voice. So there is no use in trying to have a dialog with them and present any other point of view. It is just a waste of time.
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For parents who support Mark and Cheryl, how do you get on this message board>
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its a board for parents in general. only they have access i only know this because my mom has access..
all i know is that its a group discussion board for any parents who want to join. it was started by one of the parents a while back
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The Sudweeks asked us to write letters and my child told me that if I did not SHE would be the one suffering for it. The parent's are blinded by a need to beleive in something because they are so desperate to help their kids. They kiss up to Cheryl because they know if you don't your kid will suffer. It's a sick place.
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So you wrote one of those letters on the woodbury site? I won't ask you to identify which one.
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
Andrew Tannenbaum
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That is a LIE. A parent to that discussion site Caring Parents Support Group gave the password to Cheryl Sudweeks. That site is not private at all. Cheryl Sudweeks reads every word that is posted and knows all!!!
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There is not a password to get into the Caring Parents site. You have to be invited by the originator and you make up your own user id and password.
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Excuse me...just a technicality here. the parent "who was INVITED made up a password, OK?...then passed along this password to Cheryl..."
Just wanted parents on that little website to be careful, and they might as well go ahead and invite the Sudweeks to join that little group, because the Sudweeks are privy to all they talk about anyway. I believe that's up for a democratic vote right now anyway, isn't it?
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if your child was concerned about suffering if your parents did not write a letter of support, it would only be peer pressure that would bother her. Mark and Cheryl would not hurt your child. They only needed parental support at a time of need. A couple of kids did not like it at the Whitmore so they're lashing back. It's sad to think that such a small group of kids could hurt good people so devastatingly. But, the peer pressure is at the Whitmore just like anywhere else. Most of the kids just happen to really care for Mark and Cheryl and they defend them. Nothing wrong with that.
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Joyce, has anyone contacted you about the parent group. It is a very private group with only the parents having access. You have to be invited. If that has not happened, reply.
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Whoever you are, the Sudweeks do not have a password. It's alot more secure than that. And even if they did join the group, nothing is ever said that they could not hear anyway. If a parent is not happy with their child at Whitmore, they shouldn't be there. The parents on the Parent Site are good people and don't really say bad things. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Oh, and, by the way, you have to be invited with a password to get on the parents site to keep people like you out of there.
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And how do you know Cheryl Sudweeks has the password and reads everything?
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Why would the parents want to suck up to Cheryl or Mark Sudweeks? I thought the parents were them. That doesn't even make sense. There are enough programs out there for children who need help, they can remove their child finding another program that would best take care of their kids' problems. You must be one of those people who want to jump on the negative bandwagon. I bet you like violent movies too!! And thurst for drama!!
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Sorry on the last posting, I meant to say I thought the parents were paying Whitmore. Why would they want to suck up to them. It seems Cheryl and Mark would want to suck up to the parents.
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And what ALL does Cheryl know? Just what do you think the parents are saying? This makes no sense at all. You must be one of those kids that still needs help. It's obvious you're lacking in love and attention. Maybe you need to talk to your own parents!
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I have not been contacted about joining any parent group related to the Whitmore. I did not know that there was one. My daughter was withdrawn in November, so if this is a group for parents who have children enrolled now, I would not expect to be invited.
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I was just reading this topic, and was surprised to see the question directed to me.
I just wondered why anyone would want me to reply if I had or had not been invited to this parent forum.
Should I feel slighted that I have been shunned?
Is this parent forum for all parents that have any connection to Whitmore?
Thanks.
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Joyce, you weren't shunned. The parent group is for only those parents now with children at Whitmore. Leah was only there a short time and they probably did not get your name in time for you to join. A parent started it and it has only been going for a short time, so the contact info is not organized yet. Sorry you did not get to join. It would have helped you when all the fuss happened. It's too bad you had to leave. If you had given it a chance, it probably would have Leah. Good luck to you and your family.
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I meant to say it probably would have helped Leah. Sorry.
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Correction: Leah is not my daughter.
My daughter is Zita, and she is only 12 years old and does not read or write on this site.
But, from what I know of Leah, I would be very proud to have a daughter like her.
Thank you for explaining the parent site. A lot of things have been said back-and-forth and many like me were probably confused.
But I doubt if anything on ANY site could have had any impact on my opinion of the Sudweeks. I did not know about this site until several people called me and told me about the many horrific LIES that had been posted about me from people at the Whitmore here. I say "people" but I feel that I know where it came from---the names posted were kids from the Whitmore who do not know me, and who were not even present the night we picked up Zita.
Our home phone number and email address was given out to total strangers (who made threats to our family) by the Sudweeks--nothing is scared to these people.
But thank you for explaining the site.
Joyce Harris
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Sorry about the mistake. I know 3 names on this site and I did not ready the info correctly. It just sounds as if the families of those upset probably need to vent more to Cheryl and Mark in a civil manner as opposed to this site. This could go on forever and you all will never feel closure until you confront them directly. I would hate to hold all this in for so long. I, myself, do have a child at Whitmore and they are doing good. Whitmore works for me and my child, but obviously it can't work for everyone. Sorry you had to go thru all this.
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I would just caution you. When our granddaughter was there, we also thought she was doing well. We visited on several occasions. We were told she was doing well in school,dealing with the issues that we sent her there for, etc. It was only after she had left there did we begin to gradually hear what actually does go on. When you go to visit, do with your eyes wide open. Good luck.
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Many Many people post on this site. Some use their real names, some use TITLES, and some just write anonymously.
Please do not think that just three people are responding.