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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: CBC Fifth Estate AARC piece
« on: February 16, 2009, 10:46:11 AM »
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "anonAARCgrad"
No idea. Judge Cook Stanhope has sentenced many children to AARC and her husband is on the Board. This is certainly peculiar.

Yeah.  I've heard about her.  It could certainly be that she is conned and not paid off, but who knows.  Stranger shit has happened.  What do you think AARC is going to do now that this documentary has been produced?  do you think their funding will drop dramatically or do you think the same "program saved my life" shtick from the walking billboards will still work?

Again, they have powerful friends - government, media, law enforcement. I am hoping more graduates and parents open their eyes, let go of their one-sided opinions and see what is going on. That is the most important thing. It took me years and I needed a jolt to get my head out my ass. But if it can happen to me, it can happen for anyone.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: CBC Fifth Estate AARC piece
« on: February 16, 2009, 10:27:09 AM »
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "anonAARCgrad"
Their are many who would lie or break the law for him. Scarier though is the Parents. And there are some very wealthy, influential parents. CEOs, judges, prosecuters. It will be interesting to see how the Calgary media covers this - they have been giving fluffy, favorable coverage for years.

Do you suspect that Judges might have "unofficial" relationships with AARC or if there is any corruption going on?  Recently in the states a similar case was exposed where two judges took over 2 million in kickbacks for referrals to "treatment" centers.

No idea. Judge Cook Stanhope has sentenced many children to AARC and her husband is on the Board. This is certainly peculiar.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: AARC'S RESPoNSE TO FIFTH ESTATE STORY
« on: February 16, 2009, 10:24:37 AM »
I see lots of loud protest on Facebook and the CBC comments. How will AARC respond? When will their lawyer com forward - Dean Vause will be muzzled, sadly, as he has the most to answer for. What is interesting is how AARC is now alienating it's powerful supporters - the police, CBC etc. The longer the questions remain unanswered the more questions will arise. To AARC supporters I ask what is wrong with asking questions? AARC forces people to answer questions all the time - they ask until they get the right answer.

AARC has access to any media outlet it chooses. I hope they get their story out as soon as possible.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: CBC Fifth Estate AARC piece
« on: February 15, 2009, 05:25:21 PM »
Quote from: "psy"
On a serious note... Just how dedicated are the kids to DV.  How far would they go to protect him or AARC?

Their are many who would lie or break the law for him. Scarier though is the Parents. And there are some very wealthy, influential parents. CEOs, judges, prosecuters. It will be interesting to see how the Calgary media covers this - they have been giving fluffy, favorable coverage for years.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: CBC Fifth Estate AARC piece
« on: February 15, 2009, 05:08:04 PM »
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "anonAARCgrad"
I pretty much told the truth, but I put the spin on my past incidents to make them sound the way AARC wanted them to sound in order to progress. I expressed remorse when there was none, and when I attempted to talk about those areas of my life that where painful, they were always brought around to how I had used drugs. The issues I needed support with were never addressed, except as a  secondary or in a minor way. It took several years after being in AARC and on staff before I felt I was shaking off the control of AARC. Then I discovered the cover ups, lack of oversite and lust for money that really opened my eyes.

Yeah... that's the thing with these programs (Synanon based).  They believe that addiction is a "primary disease" and don't believe that anything could be causing those behaviors.  As such, the root causes of problems are never addressed.  Drugs are used as a scapegoat.

What cover-ups did you discover?

Mostly their knowledge of major crimes committed by clients and graduates,  AARC's aiding of their defence and hiding behind "confidentiality" that is waived whenever it is to AARC's advantage. In fact there is no privacy requirement or expectation when a serious crime is committed - AARC is under obligation to report their knowlege but has been unwilling unless compelled by law.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: CBC Fifth Estate AARC piece
« on: February 15, 2009, 04:04:54 PM »
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "anonAARCgrad"
When the basic assumption upon intake is that the "client" is minmizing their usage of drugs and lying in general and that their "bottom needs to be raised" should show how the cards are stacked against the "client" from the git go. From the beginning, new clients are forced to make up past incidents if they are just plain too young to have the usage required to be an addict. THEIR MUST BE SIGNIFICANT USAGE FOR ANYONE TO BE ADDICTED TO DRUGS!!! Kids are adaptable - they quickly learn when to cry, how to discuss any real or made up usage and after a while it becomes habit. The majority of "sober" graduates I have met are on staff, highly judgemental of any one who relapses or does not toe the AARC line, participates in an amazing amount of Treatment Talk, uses self-critcal catch phrases and comes across as a cult member on leave. Sadly, in AA they are praised for coming forth so early in life and changing, not having to go through years of active addiction - but then how could they be addicts? Crazy.

Welcome to fornits anonAARCgrad.  Very good description of the program.  Just out of curiosity, did you ever start to believe your trumped up confessions or did you "fake it" all the way through the program?

I pretty much told the truth, but I put the spin on my past incidents to make them sound the way AARC wanted them to sound in order to progress. I expressed remorse when there was none, and when I attempted to talk about those areas of my life that where painful, they were always brought around to how I had used drugs. The issues I needed support with were never addressed, except as a  secondary or in a minor way. It took several years after being in AARC and on staff before I felt I was shaking off the control of AARC. Then I discovered the cover ups, lack of oversite and lust for money that really opened my eyes.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: CBC Fifth Estate AARC piece
« on: February 15, 2009, 03:46:21 PM »
Quote from: "aarc grad '95"
The biggest problem I see with the program is you can't force someone to be willing.

Willingness is the key to changing and succeeding in a 12 step program. This is the reason this program doesn't work all that well in reality. Willingness to get out of a treatment center doesn't count.

When the basic assumption upon intake is that the "client" is minmizing their usage of drugs and lying in general and that their "bottom needs to be raised" should show how the cards are stacked against the "client" from the git go. From the beginning, new clients are forced to make up past incidents if they are just plain too young to have the usage required to be an addict. THEIR MUST BE SIGNIFICANT USAGE FOR ANYONE TO BE ADDICTED TO DRUGS!!! Kids are adaptable - they quickly learn when to cry, how to discuss any real or made up usage and after a while it becomes habit. The majority of "sober" graduates I have met are on staff, highly judgemental of any one who relapses or does not toe the AARC line, participates in an amazing amount of Treatment Talk, uses self-critcal catch phrases and comes across as a cult member on leave. Sadly, in AA they are praised for coming forth so early in life and changing, not having to go through years of active addiction - but then how could they be addicts? Crazy.

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