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An open discussion about the troubled parent industry

:rocker: One can not copyright history. Of course anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that!

KPick: I hope your Mom will watch the film. I understand if she felt helpless but there is no excuse for what happened at Straight. Difficult children don't grow in toxic sludge.

K: I understand why it would be too painful for your Mom. Does she at least recognize that the program was not psychologically sound?  
--So glad other people are being validated. It really does help heal old hurts.

Anyone else?

Oh i think she recognizes it but at the same time doesn't want to believe it was as bad as it was. Doesn't believe she was ever brainwashed, even though she taught parent raps twice a year for 2.5 years. I think she's in denial about the fact that the shit they were teaching was totally bogus and about the fact that tough love is not the way to go.  C'est la vie.  At this point I'm not going to try to change her mind. She still uses terms like druggie, and still had preconceived nothings about ANYONE who uses drugs.   At the same time I have had my own issues with certain drugs, and I've always been open with her about it.  I really had a time w/ somethings but I was able to get myself off them.  At the same time I'm not one who believes because you shouldn't do coke, heroin, and meth, that that means you can't have a glass of wine or smoke a joint (seeing that weed is a plant not a drug).   So many people believe this lie about all drugs being the same and they are all bad you should not do any of them.  Sure maybe some people choose to steer clear of it all, but again it's not black and white, yet she sees it that way.  Really not my problem at this point, I have no desire to try to "change"  her mind. I can only continue to be open about what I do and see if it can wake her up a bit.  As an example i have a cousin, who she things is awesome.  Well he's smoked weed and done mushrooms.  I asked him if I could share this with her and when I did she was shocked.  But at the same time it might have given her a clue that not everyone just parties to get high (and if they do that's their business) but some people use what God placed her on this planet to gain some insight, or whatever.  I am rambling now.

Web Diva...I was saying that some folks might just not want to admit they were in there out of embarrassment and shame...

Like if your an upstanding citizen with a fancy career, you might want to keep Straight in the realm of secrets...

Of course the movie might put a whole new cultural perspective out there, or begin to call awareness to abuse as "treatment", which might help folks come out of the woodwork...

For some, the risk of prestige and reputation might be more pressing than the need to talk about it...

That's when I wonder if we are the minority, stuck in our own form of group and the vast majority just chose to live a busy life and bury the insanity in being functional and successful...

I'm just questioning out loud for the hell of it...

I know there is no way to answer these questions really, I'm just realizing some of my assumptions lately as I ponder how in the fuck I could have wasted 20 odd years trying to shake the brainwash out of my head...

sometimes I wonder if I'd a been better off just repressing the whole thing and living a lie rather than trying to sort through mental bleach...

...I keep remembering though..."It's different this time cause the Houston police are involved" and that helps a little, I mean thank god for that at least...

I can dig that although I would think if someone was worried about people finding out they just would not go public with the fact that they were in there? Just as some stayed anonymous in the film for that reason, understandably so.  

See with me had no one come out and posted online about the truth, I never would have known what really happened to my brother, so personally I'm thankful for that but again I'm coming at it from a different angle.  I do get where you're coming from.

well, we all know only a couple straight locations had 300+ clients at any given time. From 1976 until 1993, let's say for argument's sake that there were 9 facilities and 300 kids per year. That's about 45,900 kids total. In reality though, several of the branches didn't even open till mid 80's and most branches didn't have 300 kids per year. It's probably closer to 20,000 TOTAL heads into the scrubbers, out of which about 25 percent are most likely dead. The rest are "out there" somewhere doing whatever...

Right except all facilities were not open during that time span and all facilities did not have 250-300 kids at every given time. I'd say it's a good bit less, like you are saying William probably closer to 20,000.

New clips: http://http://www.survivingstraightincthemovie.com/clips.cfm

That was an intense one minute and forty-five seconds of viewing. I can imagine that it took a lot from those who took part in the project to make it. I admire all of you who collaborated on the documentary and dared to really go back to that dark place in order to bring the twisted legacy of it to light.

Yep it sure did. Especially the re-enactments that we recently filmed. A lot of healing going on as well though!

Looking for volunteers. Please check it out.

http://http://www.survivingstraightincthemovie.com/volunteers

Thanks!