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Tacitus' Realm / In support of Obama -
« on: June 22, 2011, 09:46:45 AM »
The following is an Obama supporter's blog.  I ran across it looking to see if the whitehouse insider had anything new up. I found this interesting.

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-polit ... -god-rise/

Many times in the history different scientists, historians, theologists, politicians and philosophers were talking about "the coming of a new age"…

White House Insider: Obama’s New Age? The Sun God Rise!

White House Insider: Obama’s New Age? The Sun God Rise!



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After long terrible rule of George Walker Bush the times have changed significantly.

Many times in the history different scientists, historians, theologists, politicians and philosophers were talking about “the coming of a new age”…

Now it’s year 2011. and we can say that the time of the new Aeon has come!

Recent events in the USA and in the rest of the world all point to the same conclusion;

We are approaching New Age, New Aeon.

Biblical scholars together with Jewish, Muslim and other theologists all agree that universal time of peace and brotherhood; new age without crime, disease and poverty is approaching and that Obama (Sun God) is to play key role in the political and scientific transition from the age of pain to the age of Peace.

First time in history we have a President who is more than just a president of a USA, he is a leader of the world and he will probably unite the world in the never ending fight against evil tyranny of powerful corporations and interest group.

Yes, Barack Obama is just a servant, he is not the all powerful ruler of the planet Earth… For now…

Husein Obama will break his chains eventually, like Horus, he will rise beyond the simple comprehension and help the world to accept new values, new rules for the new Aeon.

What do you think, is US President Barack Obama the leader who will introduce New World Order to the Nations of the Earth?


Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-polit ... z1Q0kUWYit

From a Christian perspective this kind of language is extremely concerning - but it ought to be concerning to anyone with any understanding of history.  Why does the left tend so strongly to creating "messiahs"?  

I recently read Ann Colters newest book b/c I understood it was well researched and footnoted and dealt with a good deal of history which I have always found interesting. I didn't agree with all she had to say and I wish she was less snarky, but she did in fact make several very valid points. This blog is a perfect example of one of her major points: Democrats like to create god-like personas for their political leaders and often use worshipful language in describing them and will become enraged at moderate and fully truthful criticism of them. You simply don't see anything like this from the right.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Justice depart gun running & stone walling
« on: June 13, 2011, 07:49:18 PM »
Fox new's Bret Beir covered the hearings briefly tonight. Haven't watched any CNN today but neither CNN or Fox has any mention up on their web sites.  The only real in depth info is still coming from the blogs.

The Ulsterman Report: Contempt Charges Coming Against Obama DOJ?

Published by Ulsterman on June 13, 2011 in World Politics
Tags: news, Obama, Politics, Scandal, ulsterman

On Monday, Republican Congressman Darrell Issa laid out the historical and legal justification for contempt charges to be filed against the Obama Department of Justice.

For those unfamiliar with the political hearing process, Monday’s Darrell Issa-initiated investigation of the now infamous Gunrunner project may have appeared a tedious, long-winded affair. Not so. By D.C. standards, what Issa pulled off was brilliant political stagecraft, which ultimately may prove highly damaging to the Obama administration.

In a 90-minute time span, the terms “cover-up”, “Watergate”, and “Iran-Contra”, were repeated numerous times as a table of constitutional scholars appeared unanimous in their opinion that Obama’s DOJ was in violation of the right of Congress to make applicable requests for information – in this case information surrounding Project Gunrunner that resulted in the death of U.S. border agent Brian Terry and likely hundreds more civillians just across the Mexican border. Since 2009, thousands of guns were allowed to be sold to Mexican drug cartels – guns that were in turn used against U.S. law enforcement, civilians, and their Mexican counterparts. Attorney General Eric Holder testified before Congress he knew nothing of the program, but that he would launch “an internal investigation.” Since that time, no findings have been disclosed, as Holder continues to ignore Congressional requests for further information.

On Monday, June 13th, Republican Congressman Darell Issa led the first of two scheduled hearings this week surrounding Project Gunrunner and the implied cover-up being undertaken by top-ranking ATF officials, and the Obama Department of Justice. This first hearing centered on the right of Congress to receive requests for information from the Executive Branch in a timely manner, even if those requests could prove politically damaging to Executive Branch officials. And while Democrat Congressman Gerald Connolly attempted to paint the actions of Issa and his fellow Republicans as being unreasonable against the Department of Justice, this claim was roundly dismissed by the constitutional scholars providing testimony. In fact, these same scholars indicated there was no applicable reason for the Obama DOJ to not be providing the information being requested by Congress, leaving the ever-growing spectre of a possible cover-up looming over the proceedings.

On Wednesday, Issa will be calling the mother of slain border agent Brian Terry to testify. Her testimony will most certainly provide a powerful emotional component to the proceedings, while further heightening the questions of what Attorney General Eric Holder has been hiding from Congress, and giving more reason for Congress to proceed with official charges of contempt against Holder, and possibly even President Obama, if the administration continues to actively stonewall the ongoing Project Gunrunner investigations.

Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-po ... z1PCbb4532


Barely related but priceless:

White House Insider: Obama’s Rage Over Netanyahu Meeting: "What the F-ck was that?"
Published by Ulsterman on June 10, 2011 in US Politics
Tags: Daley, Insider, Netanyahu, news, Obama, Politics, Tantrum, ulsterman, White house

An angry and embarrassed President Obama confronts White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley.

Received this information late yesterday. Thought you might wish to know.

Shortly after the photo-op meeting and “working lunch” with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the one that saw President Obama openly chastised by the Prime Minister for Obama’s earlier public comments regarding wanting to see Israel return to its 1967 borders, the president verbally “went off” on Richard Daley in the private study area that adjoins the Oval Office. President Obama’s verbal attack was clearly heard by numerous staff up and down the West Wing hallways.

The essence of the president’s rage and embarrassment can best be summed up with him yelling out very loudly, “What the f-ck was that!?” That phrase was apparently repeated a number of times in the span of about five minutes, a time period in which Obama’s voice became “louder and louder” and culminating in Obama exclaiming, “Never again! Do you understand me? Never again!” Any response by Bill Daley back to the president, if given, was not overheard.

Daley was soon after seen walking slowly down the hallway back toward his own office. He appeared “unconcerned” and was walking alone. His mood was apparently good enough that he took the time to speak briefly with some junior staffers before continuing down the hall. There was no sign of the president, though Valerie Jarrett did make an appearance on her way into the Oval Office. This was viewed as somewhat of a rare thing as Jarrett has apparently not been seen much on the lower levels of the West Wing for the last month or so. Neither she nor the president was seen for some time after that. The president did not emerge until it was time to make another brief speech at a nearby location later that afternoon. I did not receive information on whether or not Daley accompanied the president on that short trip, but the president’s mood was described as “much improved” when he returned.

While the details of this confrontation are a bit dated, I found them very interesting and think they provide some clear insight into the debilitating pressures that I am certain are getting to the president, and given the more recent developments that are now challenging the administration, I would not be at all surprised to hear more such examples coming from inside the White House in the very near future.

Oh, and another little FYI in case you missed it. Obama had a recent “meeting” with some of his former top advisers very recently. In my line of work that means only one thing. This administration is absolutely sh-tting itself right now. The cover is being blown off, the fingers of blame are being pointed, and discussions over who is going to take the fall are happening this very moment. Things are going rather well for us. Not too bad for an old news almost out to pasture relic huh? Much work remains to be done though.

Stay safe.

Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-polit ... z1PCcFAmYv
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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Justice depart gunn running & stone walling
« on: June 13, 2011, 01:43:01 PM »
Well - if the Justice Department and the ATF says to sell the guns to the drug cartels - sell in bulk and sell semi-automatic to the drug cartels - then it is legal to sell semi-auto-matic guns in bulk to the drug cartels. I guess. . .

 It seems that they intended to curb the flow of illegal guns into Mexico by flooding the market with legal guns - I guess - it makes no sense but thats how I read it.  They wanted to sell the guns to see who bought the guns - as if they don't know - it's just crazy.  

Apparently, it wasn't illegal - just massively stupid. Now that Congress wants to investigate this massive act of stupidy the Justice Department is stonewalling: "Department of Justice's refusal to comply with a Congressional subpoena as well as the withholding of documents from a Congressional subpoena" And this, I would think, is illegal. It sure would be if I were doing it; but then again - the bulk sale of semi-automatic guns to drug cartels would also be illegal if I did it.  

What I find most frustrating about this story is the fact no news group is covering it with any meaningful amount of coverage. Instead we get obsessive coverage on that dam fool's hard luck photos - or a murdered child  - or an ex-gov's love child or their email.

It all seems more and more like a distraction campaign. Its as if the news is produced primarily to keep people from learning or caring what is going on.  The public has become conditioned to accept that anything of importance gets 24/7 coverage. If there is no such coverage the public tends to assume that it isn't important or even true. This is disturbing.

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Tacitus' Realm / Justice depart gun running & stone walling
« on: June 13, 2011, 12:08:41 PM »
Anybody else following this story? Anyone else even aware of it?

http://www.c-span.org/Events/C-SPAN-Event/10737422186/

Justice Officials in 'Panic Mode' as Hearing Nears on Failed Anti-Gun Trafficking Program

By William La Jeunesse

Published June 10, 2011

| FoxNews.com


Officials at the Department of Justice are in "panic mode," according to multiple sources, as word spreads that congressional testimony next week will paint a bleak and humiliating picture of Operation Fast and Furious, the botched undercover operation that left a trail of blood from Mexico to Washington, D.C.

The operation was supposed to stem the flow of weapons from the U.S. to Mexico by allowing so-called straw buyers to purchase guns legally in the U.S. and later sell them in Mexico, usually to drug cartels.

Instead, ATF documents show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms knowingly and deliberately flooded Mexico with assault rifles. Their intent was to expose the entire smuggling organization, from top to bottom, but the operation spun out of control and supervisors refused pleas from field agents to stop it.

Only after Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry died did ATF Agent John Dodson blow the whistle and expose the scandal.

"What people don't understand is how long we will be dealing with this," Dodson told Fox News back in March. "Those guns are gone. You can't just give the order and get them back. There is no telling how many crimes will be committed before we retrieve them."

But now the casualties are coming in.

Mexican officials estimate 150 of their people have been shot by Fast and Furious guns. Police have recovered roughly 700 guns at crime scenes, 250 in the U.S. and the rest in Mexico, including five AK-47s found at a cartel warehouse in Juarez last month.

A high-powered sniper rifle was used to shoot down a Mexican military helicopter. Two other Romanian-made AK-47s were found in a shoot-out that left 11 dead in the state of Jalisco three weeks ago.

The guns were traced to the Lone Wolf Gun Store in Glendale, Ariz., and were sold only after the store employees were told to do so by the ATF.

It is illegal to buy a gun for anyone but yourself. However, ATF's own documents show it allowed just 15 men to buy 1,725 guns, and 1,318 of those were after the purchasers officially became targets of investigation.

Arizona gun store owners say they were explicitly told by the ATF to sell the guns, sometimes 20, 30, even up to 40 in a single day to single person.

And those orders, from at least one ATF case agent, are on audio recording.

"We would say, 'Do you (the ATF) want us to stop selling, is there something we should do here?'" Brad DeSayes, owner of J&G Gun Sales in Prescott, said. "And they would say, 'No, no, no, keep selling - just tell us after the fact.'"

Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, holds a hearing Wednesday into Operation Fast and Furious.

The hearing is billed as "Reckless Decisions, Tragic Outcomes," and the following are among the details expected in testimony:

- The ATF allowed and encouraged five Arizona gun store owners to sell some 1,800 weapons to buyers known to them as gun smugglers.

- It installed cameras inside the gun stores to record purchases made by those smugglers.

- It hid GPS trackers inside gun stocks and watched the weapons go south on computer screens.

- It obtained surveillance video from parking lots and helicopters showing straw buyers transferring their guns from one car to another.

- It learned guns sold in Phoenix were recovered only when Mexico police requested "trace data," which is obtained from their serial number.

The first witness in Wednesday's hearing is Sen. Charles Grassley, who will describe what his investigative team learned from four months of interviews and thousands of documents. He will be followed by three members of Brian Terry's family, three ATF agents and Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich, who only months ago insisted the agency did not let guns go south to Mexico, a claim contradicted by field agents in Group 7, the actual agents who ran the operation in Phoenix.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06 ... z1PAleSaqx

Oversight Panel Investigates Controversial Gun Program
Will look at Justice Dept. and Subpoenas
semiautomatic hand gun

semiautomatic hand gun

Oversight hearing: Live at 1pm (ET) on C-SPAN Networks

Washington, DC
Monday, June 13, 2011


The top lawmaker on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee is holding a public hearing on a failed program intended to curb the illegal flow of guns to Mexican drug cartels.

The program, Operation Fast and Furious, was initiated under Project Gunrunner, which was operated by the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) agency. Fast and Furious allowed gun stores near the Mexican border to sell semiautomatic weapons in bulk to Mexican dealers. U.S. government officials hoped to track the guns to the drug cartels and prosecute them.

Chair of the Committee, Darrell Issa (R-CA) said the Department of Justice is refusing to provide the committee with information; therefore he plans to issues a “slew” of subpoenas. The hearing examines the constitutional role of the Justice Department to respond to subpoenas.

Issa said the hearing will look at "the constitutional questions raised by both the Department of Justice's refusal to comply with a Congressional subpoena as well as the withholding of documents from a Congressional subpoena."

Two officials with the Congressional Research Service and a legal scholar who has investigated several government corruption cases will testify.

Issa has already scheduled a second hearing on the issue for later this week.

Updated: Sunday at 7:32pm (ET)

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I found the fornits thread I was looking for. The documents I had saved where in the Whitmore file, and not the WWASP file, so I had some trouble finding them. But what I was looking for can be found  (mostly) in this thread:
http://http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=20151&start=15

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I am thinking the full version runs 90 minutes.

adding:

I used to have information on both versions and how to order them from zandig productions but I have misplaced it. I googled a bit and found where Paula Reeves says the full version is 2:90 – but as I am sure it wasn’t 3 1/2 hours long I think this means version 2 is 90 minutes, as I recalled.

http://lostchildrenoftranquilitybay.blogspot.com/
Set Production AssistantCamera (color, DV), Viallet; editor, Christophe Bouquet; music, Remy Berger; sound, Verboud. Reviewed at Thessaloniki Documentary Film Festival, March. 12, 2006. Running time on France 2: 90 MIN.

Google offers a lot of hits from fornits. this search brought up 10 pages of hits on the topic.
site:fornits.com The lost children of Tranquility Bay

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I'm still wanting the full and complete version of the TB documentary - you know - the long version. I'd happily buy it from a legitimate source if I could figure out how to do this and not triple the price in the money exchange.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Deep Throat has a new name -
« on: May 21, 2011, 10:37:29 AM »
Home » Politics » US Politics » White House Insider: Eric Holder Is Gonna Fall
White House Insider: Eric Holder Is Gonna Fall
Published by Ulsterman on May 9, 2011 in US Politics

The second half of our April 28th interview with our longtime D.C. Insider.

Note:  This is the second part of a two part communication with our D.C. Insider.  The first part was titled Obama’s West Wing Civil War.  Just prior to the second part being published, the events surrounding the death of Osama Bin Laden broke, including Insider’s explosive behind the scenes details of a quasi operational coup within the administration. The details contained in this update were understandably delayed from publication due to the Osama Bin Laden news.  It is a somewhat lengthy read – but informative.

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…He called out the real Valerie Jarrett inside the White House.  He showed the staff who she really is.  And he is still there standing.  That message will not be lost to those in and around the West Wing.  It’s a pretty damn remarkable turn of events.  I probably ain’t doing it justice in my telling of it, but it’s huge. Rahm was pushed out like a dog.  Bill Daley is still holding strong.


Don’t think Jarrett is giving up though.  That lady will fight back.  Bet on it.  Obama is gonna be on the road campaigning 24/7 in the coming months, leaving Jarrett and Daley to square off in creating policy.  Those two are gonna be at each other’s throats.  My money’s on Bill Daley.  If he can help send Jarrett packing, he will be doing this country a huge favor.  Huge.

Q:  Can you repeat what you told me before – how Richard Daley stepping down and Bill Daley coming to the White House, and then Rahm Emanuel becoming Chicago’s Mayer.  How all of that relates back directly to Valerie Jarrett and Barack Obama.  You connected those dots better than anyone else I’ve heard from, but you didn’t want to publish it before.  Can we share that now?  What you said regarding that?

A:  I won’t allow you to publish it.  I WANT you to publish it.  And I want to qualify that by explaining to you that I am running without fear now.  I am not alone here.  This has become much bigger than me, or the group of us that were working prior to the Midterms  We are in every good hands now, and this thing has a real possibility of seeing the kind of outcome I thought impossible just a few months ago.  And don’t get hung up on people believing or not believing what we are discussing here.  That is not the point of this.  As I told you some time ago, the real motivation of this operation is letting those know who are watching that we are also watching, and that no amount of effort on their part is going to fully prevent the truth from getting out there. And I am being absolutely honest with you when I say that at no other time since we began this have I been so confident in our eventual success.

Now getting back to your question about Richard Daley stepping down, Rahm stepping in, and Bill Daley’s entrance into the Obama administration, it is foolish for anyone to not think all of that is no connected to something far greater than simply political repositioning.  You have already reported on the Jarrett-Richard Daley connection, so no need for me to get you up to speed on that.  What you might not know is that Richard Daley had something of a falling out with Jarrett, and by default, the Obama’s prior to Obama becoming a U.S. Senator.  Now when it comes to Chicago politics, the Daley machine owns all of it.  Everything.  This includes information – every kind of information, on anyone of political importance in and around Chicago.  When Obama went “national” as a Senator, Jarrett’s influence went national right along with it, right.  By then she was the primary guide for Barack Obama’s political career. Every decision went to her, through her, and ultimately had to be approved by her.  Obama did nothing without her approval.  This has largely continued to this day in the White House, though as I just indicated, Bill Daley is fighting to alter that arrangement.  So what happens when the great keeper of Chicago secrets, Richard Daley, announces he is stepping down?  A huge power vacuum that sent the Obama White House into panic mode.  Daley had a working agreement with Obama and Jarrett to keep a lid on the “unsavory” details related to each of them.  Details stemming from years working among the most powerful and corrupt forces in Chicago politics, including Daley himself.  And while many dislike the man that is Richard Daley, none will dispute that when a deal is made, he holds to it.  And he has held to his deal with Jarrett and Obama.  Almost every avenue investigated against those two has been effectively shut down in Chicago. With Daley’s departure as mayor, that will no longer be so easily accomplished, and the figure now in control of that apparatus is none other than disgruntled former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

Q:  I have been told by others that Rahm’s voyage back to Chicago was coordinated by the Jarrett White House to continue keeping those secrets you speak of under wraps.  That seems like a very strong possibility to me.  You are stating that is not the case?

A:  Not only is that not the case, but it is among the single greatest concerns currently being dealt with by Jarrett and White House operations.  That is to say, keeping an eye on Rahm Emanuel in Chicago.  That scenario you lay out, the idea that Jarrett sent Rahm back to Chicago, is a superficial ruse by Jarrett meant to keep the donors and their concerns minimized.  Nobody wants to make a substantial investment on a horse with a bad leg. I have detailed to you the conflicts between Rahm Emanuel and Valerie Jarrett.  Money and resources were spent against Rahm’s campaign by the Obama people.  Rahm then received support, very important support, from two powerful allies.  One was political machine of outgoing mayor Richard Daley.  The other was from Bill Clinton. But I am not quite prepared to relate the Clinton connections as they relate to Chicago because that may compromise what is still underway.

And then of course you have Richard Daley’s brother Bill being placed within the Obama West Wing as new Chief of Staff.  That decision was not Jarrett’s. I have told you that already. There is a trap being built around both Jarrett and Obama and they certainly are aware of that now.  Once we get Holder out of the DOJ, the cracks will really begin to appear.  The DOJ is holding off every significant inroad against Jarrett and Obama at the moment.  But that situation is temporary.  Holder is going to find himself in some very serious legal trouble shortly.  He may survive it, but I would consider that outcome likely.  He cut off the NBP case.  Held it off long enough to do so.  Ok then.  We have moved on to the next scenario and this time we have much greater help in pushing this one through.

Q:  And then back to Chicago?

A:  And then back to Chicago, yes.  As I have always said.  The big difference now are these two theatres are working almost simultaneously, so once the first wall is breached, the second should fall far faster than we were initially thinking.

Q:  Wall?

A:  Sorry, speaking figuratively there.  Sort of.  Mean to say that once one event happens, which will be Holder related the protection coming out of Chicago will likely collapse much faster as well.  Dominoes might have been a better term to use.

Q:  What part does the Blago trial play in all of this?

A:  The Blago trial is a very big Domino.  The forces being used against him are a very big wall.  He will cut a deal.  Some kind of deal.  No doubt about that.  The trial itself and its outcome are not the critical component to all of this.  It’s important, but it won’t decide the outcome one way or the other.  Ask yourself this though.  Those tapes. The Blago tapes of his phone conversations that the Feds are using to try and convict.  Why was that taping cut short? Or were they?  The spin was that the Feds moved in to charge Blago, maybe a bit early, right?  They exposed the operation before they had enough to easily convict, right?  Why did they do that?  Or did they?

Q:  What do you mean “Or did they?”

A:  What if the Feds actually didn’t stop the investigation too early?  What if those tapes have all they needed to easily convict Blago and more?  A federal investigation is normally a very slow and deliberate process, but in this one, it came out very quickly, charges were filed, and then soon after, concerns about possibly having stopped the taping of the Blago phone conversations too early started to be disseminated by the media.  The media was simply regurgitating what was being forwarded to them via the Feds, at least those few involved with the Blago case.  Why would Federal prosecutors start putting out a view that they may have stopped recording Blago’s conversations too early even before the trial was underway?  Why do that?

Q:  I have no idea.  They are admitting incompetence?  Trying to get ahead of a story of then possibly losing the trial?

A: That’s what they want you to think.  I’ll say it again.  What if they actually had not stopped the recording of the conversations too early?  What if those tapes have information directly tying the Obama administration to the charges being levied against Blago?  What if both Valerie Jarrett and Barack Obama were complicit in the alleged crime and those tapes prove it?  And what if one of the primary tasks of Eric Holder was to squash any and all investigations within the Department of Justice that would make that connection?  What if Federal prosecutors were working under extreme pressure to withhold any and all evidence directly linking Valerie Jarrett and the president to the investigation?  And what if, once Eric Holder was forced to resign, the dynamics of the political firewall were essentially destroyed?  This entire administration is then under the assault of the truth.  And the questions won’t stop at the Blago related material.  And it won’t stop at Holder’s Department of Justice workings.  And it won’t stop at those actions taken since Barack Obama became President of the United States.  Those questions, and the eventual answers, will go back to Chicago, back to both Obama and Jarrett.  That is, if we ultimately successful with what we are attempting to pull off.  You have seen an uptick in the some negative press related to the Obama administration.  If things are going well for us, you should note an even greater increase in such coverage over the next month or so.  Some very powerful hands are now pushing this rock up the hill.  It’s a long, steep climb, but it’s getting done, which is a hell of lot more than I could say not so long ago.

Q:  Is Trump helping with this?  Donald Trump – is he playing a part?  You starting pushing him as a possible candidate and initially I thought you were crazy to do so, but I have to admit that soon after he was making a huge move in the polls and is now enemy #1 among the media.  Are you connected to the Trump phenomena in any way?

A:  Not exactly.  I was simply aware he was going to make noise and given his celebrity, and resources, considered him at the time the most viable threat to Obama politically.  And frankly, I feel comfortably saying I was proven right.  Donald Trump forced the birther issue onto the mainstream, and because of that, Valerie Jarrett knew they had to release a birth certificate to nullify the momentum that issue was creating.

Q:  Why do you say it like that?  You say “a birth certificate” instead of the birth certificate.  I have learned nothing you say is without a reason – so what’s the reason for that specific choice of words?

A: Let’s move on from that subject for now.  I won’t go there at the moment, ok?  But I will talk Trump.  Why I was pushing him…

 Q:  Ok – but does that mean you’re not pushing him anymore?

A: Not necessarily.  I am open to anyone and anything that will help to put a political end to the Obama White House.  Donald Trump…look at how he is being attacked now.  That is proof positive he is considered a serious threat.  I would support a Trump campaign.  Absolutely.  I would support a Hillary Clinton campaign.  Most certainly.  God how I wish she was willing to make that kind of move.  The fact is though, at this point…at this time, I am willing to work for anyone who can defeat Obama.  And I am.  When I speak of we – when I let you know I’m not the only one involved in trying to secure at the very least a real choice for 2012 – we aren’t all Democrats.  There are Republicans involved.  There are business leaders now involved – some of them who like me, strongly supported the president back in 2008 but have since been shocked and dismayed to see just how inept and dangerous he is to this country…(Long pause) There is something I have wanted to reveal to you but always pulled back because I was never quite certain of it’s a basis in reality.  It was a rumor, or even a rumor of a rumor back in 2008 that at the time I laughed off as stupid conspiracy bullshit.  Ironically the kind of description a lot of people probably label your publishing of our little talks as.  Remember when I told you about the “McCain the campaign” strategy that the Democrats, working in conjunction with certain media figures, pulled off during the Republican primaries?  How we actually worked to make John McCain the nominee?

Q: Yes.  What about it?

A:  That was only half the equation.  At least that’s how it was presented to me.  I know about the “McCain the campaign” strategy first hand. I played a bigger role in that than I originally revealed to you.  But the other part…that’s not my world.  I don’t know if what I was told was legit or just…at the time it was crazy.  But then…damned if it didn’t happen.  Thing is, for it to happen would have taken help by Republicans at the time.

Q:  Ok – get to it then.  What happened?  Or what were you told happened?

A:  The collapse.  The economic collapse in the fall of 2008.  Before that what was the biggest subject during the early parts of the campaign?  It wasn’t the economy, it was the war.  It was foreign policy.  Now I know this because I saw the internals from both sides.  That was the issue that had both camps, the McCain and the Obama teams, being told to work on.  That of course favored McCain, and those same internals were showing that to be the fact.  Barack Obama, like most other areas, had almost no experience in foreign policy, and the campaign team went through scenario after scenario trying to figure out how to minimize that situation.  Nothing worked.  Historically, if the voters are concerned about foreign policy, concerned about safety, law enforcement, military strength – who do they vote for?

Republicans.

A:  Exactly.  And that is what every internal was coming back to us with, and it had the higher ups in the campaign very concerned to the point of panic.  So…something had to be done.  The dynamic had to altered.

Q: Stop for a minute.  If foreign policy was the primary concern, why would the Democrats have helped secure McCain as the Republican nominee if that was his strength?  Wouldn’t that be a huge mistake?

A:  Great question. And you’re absolutely right – it was a terrible miscalculation by the Obama camp.  We thought the war would prove unpopular enough that McCain would get hammered on it.  He’s not a strong public speaker, and the campaign team was convinced that the Senator, – then Senator Obama, would be able to strike political gold on that.  It didn’t pan out.  The surge was working, McCain had the foreign policy credentials, and the Obama campaign was scrambling to redefine what the defining issue would be in November.  I was told there would be a change in the economy.  Not by chance.  A directed change in the economy.  And the first time I heard this, the primary battle between Clinton and Obama was still going strong.

Q:  How would that be possible?

A:  That’s what I said back then.  Having the media push McCain as the nominee – that I understood.  Both sides had initiated that kind of maneuvering before. But to alter the economy…that seemed…unlikely to me at the time.  But that is what they did.

Q:  Who?

A;  Right.  Who?  It had to be somebody with a lot of influence in both political parties, because the Republicans in power at the time were the ones to get the ball moving in the direction the Obama people needed.  What I can say for certain is that big money – very big money, was rolling into the Obama campaign by then.  The investment had been made, and their boy needed to be the next president to get a full return on that investment, right?  It sounds crazy. Yeah – I know.  Believe me, I ignored the talk.  The rumors, and I just did my job.  But then it happened.  The market crashed, and overnight, the national dialogue turned almost entirely onto the economy.  Obama’s polling jumped.  McCain dropped and he never recovered.  Bear Stearns…that was – I believe that was intentional to favor either Hillary or Obama. I really do.  I don’t have verification of it…the people who could do that kind of thing live in a world far away from my own, but that is what I think, and even back then, the thought crossed my mind and stayed there.  And after Bear Stearns, after Obama was the nominee, we saw the collapse in the fall of 2008 – a classic October surprise.  There was nothing the McCain campaign could do to win that election.  Nothing – and we all knew it.  The economy had been made the defining issue of the election – just as I had earlier been told it would.

Q:  Hold on here…you are saying Republicans – people in the Republican Party, helped to elect Barack Obama?  That they were in on this plan?  That’s outrageous and seems very improbable.  Sorry, but this scenario you’re laying out…it’s crazy.

A:  Yeah – it is.  But why are you so willing to believe when Democrats are playing dirty politics, but not Republicans?  Open your eyes.  I was told they were going to make the economy the issue to decide the campaign.  Prior to the economic crash that seemed highly unlikely.  The economy was hurting, there were certainly some warning signs, but before September and October  2008, it didn’t look anywhere close to what eventually happened.

Do you remember Bear Stearns?  It was bailed out in the spring of 2008 – when the primary races were still going on.  Do you know who initiated that bailout?  There was involvement by the Bush administration of course – but who initiated the actual bailout?  Who directed it?

Q:  I don’t know.  Who?

A:  Don’t feel bad – most people couldn’t answer that question.  It’s that kind of ignorance that allows political operatives to keep spinning the machine around and around.  People tune out.  Most don’t really want to know the answers.

Q: So who initiated the bailout?

A:  Timothy Geithner – our current Secretary of the Treasury.  A guy who has mishandled his position at Treasury since day one…yet there he remains.

Q:  Geithner wasn’t Secretary of the Treasury in spring of 2008…that was—(interrupted)

A:  Right…he wasn’t Secretary of the Treasury in 2008.  He was Chairman of the New York Federal Reserve.  And it was in that position Timothy Geithner initiated the bailout of Bear Stearns – its cannibalization by rival JP Morgan, and the use of tens of billions in Federal Reserve funding to do so.  Geithner testified before a Senate committee shortly after the bailout and defended it as essential to saving the economy.  He stated that if the saving of Bear Stearns had not occurred, the stock market and housing prices would fall dramatically.

Q: So?  You’re losing me here.  What does this have to do with the economy – the campaign, in 2008?

A:  It has everything to do with it.  I didn’t connect it all then, but I do now.  It’s been explained to me in terms I could understand, by someone who would certainly have been in the position to know.  Part of the “We” I refer to regarding defeating Obama in 2012.  Give me a chance here – I will do my best to explain my understanding of it.

So Timothy Geithner, as Chairman of the New York Federal Reserve, with assistance from Chairman of the Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke, and then-Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson, himself the former head of Goldman Sachs.  The same Goldman Sachs that would later donate a million dollars to the Obama campaign and help elect him President of the United States.  These are investors we are talking about here – you understand what I’m saying, right?  And do you know who donated almost $800,000 to the Obama campaign?  JP Morgan – the same institution Timothy Geithner helped to acquire Bear Stearns at a rock bottom rate with an additional $30 billion dollar credit line via the Federal Reserve.  Are you keeping up now?

 

I’m with you – keep going.

A:  So we have Timothy Geithner and the Federal Reserve, acting in conjunction with some of the largest and most powerful financial institutions working to, if Geithner’s testimony at the time is to be believed, “saving the American economy.”  And these same financial institutions then begin to funnel millions in campaign contributions to the Obama campaign.   Then fast forward to the fall of 2008.  What happened then?

I don’t know.  Just keep talking and if I have a question I’ll let you know.

A:  Lehman Brothers.  In September of 2008, at a time when John McCain is still edging out Barack Obama many of the national polls, Lehman Brothers is allowed to collapse.  Unlike Bear Stearns, the Federal Reserve does not intervene.  Nor does Paulson from Treasury.  Lehman Brothers collapses, and the entire financial system freezes up.  The stock market tumbles, John McCain is caught flat footed, while the Obama campaign, its campaign messaging, appears as if was prepared ahead of time for the collapse.  McCain drops in the polls, Obama rises, and a man the country hardly knows anything about, is elected President of the United States.  And who is then made Secretary of the Treasury – none other than the same man who saved one financial institution, while ignoring another – an act that directly benefited the campaign of the man who would then place him in one of the most powerful and influential positions in the world.  And despite numerous blunders, Timothy Geithner remains in that position to this day.  Another keeper of secrets.

And what followed after that?  Billions and billions in funds to these financial institutions. Easy money policies.  Broad expansion of Federal Reserve powers.  One hand washed the other…

Q:  You make the Obama administration sound like big money Republicans.

A:  That’s a stupid thing to say.  Power doesn’t discriminate between one political party over the other.  I’ve seen that proven true so many times I can’t recall when it wasn’t a fact of my own life, such as it is. Big money deemed Obama was to be their candidate of choice because he was likely the most open to policies that would make them the greatest profit and enjoy the most influence. I also believe they thought him to be easily controlled.  They were partly right.  Barack Obama is easily controlled, but what they failed to recognize, is that Valerie Jarrett is not.  She has been molding Obama in her own political likeness for too long to allow others to alter the course she has set out for him.  That b-tch has been off the Democratic Party reservation since day one.  Day one!

Jarrett is Obama’s greatest weakness though.  His vulnerability.  Valerie Jarrett – she has burned so many bridges in the financial community.  So many in the business community.  Her Chicago version of government-business cooperation has not been well received outside of Chi-town.  And so, some of those former big money donors are seeking alternative political investment to Obama.  Not all of them – not yet. But some.  And the knowledge they have to what is going on inside the Obama White House is…impressive.

First up is Eric Holder. He is gonna fall.  Watch for Holder news – it’s coming.  They are gonna fight hard to keep him in there.  He’s done a hell of a job keeping the lid on so much sh-t.  But that’s about to change.  I ain’t saying I trust Issa, but it’s been explained to me that he knows that he’s doing and it’s getting done.  So ok…I’ll see if that’s the case.  Then it’s on to 2012 with the information in hand that will be the result of Holder stepping down from the DOJ.  It’s gonna be a race to get it out there before the election, but we sure as hell are gonna try.  And even if Obama manages to get his re-election, we will cripple him politically…we will trip him up enough, that his second term will be nowhere near the threat to the country that this one has been.  And he may not be able to complete that second term.  The information that will be forced into the hands of the media, the people, the party leaders, the donors…the man thinks he’s under political pressure now?  Just wait.  They made a big mistake, and we got them.  We got them…

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Part One of this interview found here:

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-polit ... civil-war/

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Deep Throat has a new name -
« on: May 21, 2011, 10:15:34 AM »
White House Insider: Obama’s West Wing Civil War
Published by Ulsterman on April 28, 2011 in US Politics
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All new revelations from our D.C. Insider of an Obama White House in chaos, as Bill Daley does battle with Valerie Jarrett for control of the West Wing.

NOTE:  This report is a compilation of two recent interviews with a longtime political operative within the Democratic Party.

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Q:  We have to start with the release of what appears to be Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate – you’ve danced around the birther claims in the past, indicating there was something to it.  Do you still hold to that belief?

A:  Yes, I do.  I’m not saying the birther stuff is the primary issue that will do harm to the Obama White House. I don’t believe I ever said that.  What it is…what it has always been, is an issue that adds more evidence of the ongoing cover up surrounding this man.  So he released his birth records.  Ok, why so long to do that?  That’s the question most of us are answering now.  Why the millions spent in court cases?  Why wasn’t it shown months ago?  Years ago?  If anything, the timing of this release raises even more questions about the man, not less.  The only reason, and I mean the only reason, that birth certificate came out was because polling initiated by this White House showed the issue was catching on big time with the public.  So if the president’s people finally caved on releasing that little tidbit only after they absolutely had to do so for their political survival…well, what else are they hiding?  And why won’t they release those records?  What the Obama people did here – and I have this on very good authority mind you…I’m as connected now to the goings on – well, let’s just say I’m in it to win it.  You’ll understand more of that later…but back to what was the strategy on this thing.  The Obama people are hoping that this ends these kinds of questions. They released that certificate, and now they are gonna play it as “it’s all over – no more questions.”  They have directly contacted figures in the media to help them do just that.  I know this for certain. Absolutely know it.  Most who were contacted are going to do just that – but not all of them.  Not all of them…


Q:  You mean some in the media are going to turn against Obama on this thing?

A:  No, I wouldn’t go that far.  We can wish right? But no…what I meant is that some of them, a few of them, aren’t going to blindly carry the Obama shit bucket anymore.  They may not go after him as you put it, but they ain’t gonna run interference for the man either.  They are finally waking up to the fact that this man who was elected is an absolute disaster, and just like me, they don’t want to play a part in helping protect that kind of disaster.  And I want to say this as well…pay attention here.  The birther stuff has never been the big concern of this White House, right?  You get that, right?  Pay attention.  Things are now moving forward again.  You know what I’m talking about.  Go ahead and print that.  Put it out there.  Let them know.  We…people who can get it done – we are moving forward again. The truth is gonna set this country free. We had a tough few months, but it’s game on again.  We’re gonna put this out here in this forum.  It’s being watched closely.  I know that.  We are putting it out here, and then you’ll see it hit big.  Go ahead and print this.  Let them know.  We got the little -expletive- now.  We got them.  And I ain’t running scared this time around.  Not this time.

Q:  What about the West Wing war as you put it?  Can we talk about that here? That was quite a story.

A:  Hell yes – print it!  Oh Jarrett…poor Valerie.  She’s picked an enemy far tougher and far more connected than she is.  I’ve told you before – there has always been chaos with this White House.  With an absentee president who only cares about image, that’s gonna happen.  So Jarrett has been running the show.  She has built up her presence…her power, from day one.  And she’s had her way on almost every critical issue.  She pushed out Rahm, she’s alienated many of the most influential Congressional Democrats, she’s pissed off the military – oh that’s another story I’ll have to share with you soon.  That one is still playing out right before our eyes though, so we gotta let that one turn out first.  She’s gonna get burned on that too.  But let’s stick with what happened a few weeks back in the White House that has people talking, and the donors pushing the big concerned button once again.

Now I know I told you that there was a bit of a control fight between Daley and Jarrett, right?  I know it’s been a while but I seem to recall that.  Well this fight has broke out into all out war between these two.  And Jarrett is getting her ass kicked.  That’s not to say she won’t claw her way back, she’s got the confidence of the First Lady and the president…but those two are learning they aren’t calling the shots anymore.  Too much at stake to allow those two elitist morons to just -expletive- it up.

(Interrupts)  What do you mean by that.  Sorry to break in there, but please explain what you mean?

A: What I mean is that Barack and Michelle Obama…it was communicated to them in no uncertain terms that they are to follow directions.  Every president, as powerful as that position is, can have their chain jerked when a situation requires.  That chain has been jerked very hard this past month. Very hard.  I don’t want to go into that right now though.  I want to tell you about Jarrett and Daley.  That story is going to legitimize this with the ones who I want to know.  So I’m going back to that.

Daley has quietly been asserting himself in Obama’s White House.  They may not like it, but they don’t have a choice.  Daley is Chicago, right?  It goes back there.  All of it.  We got you Mr. President.  We got you…

Anyways, so Daley has been doing what Rahm could not – he’s rebuilding relations with Democrats both in and out of Congress.  The man has what Obama never had – respect within the party.  Bill Daley is a solid company man and they know that, and they trust it.  They don’t trust Barack Obama, and they sure as hell don’t trust Valerie Jarrett.  What isn’t being reported, though it is now increasingly known, is that the Democratic Party has broken into two factions.  You have the Chicago Democrats and their supporters, and then you have everyone else.  Valerie Jarrett has created this dynamic, and it has reached a point where people are getting very upset, and that means some of them are willing to talk, and that of course puts the president in political danger.  And legal danger.  Serious legal danger.

So Daley, he’s the fix it guy for this mess, right?  He is sent from Chicago, but he’s sent by those Democrats outside Chicago to repair the ongoing damage of the Obama White House.  That’s simplifying what he’s attempting a great deal, but there you have it.  Now what Daley has that Jarrett doesn’t is the support of the donors.  They placed him in that White House to organize it into some semblance of…organization.  To make the damn place function – ’cause it ain’t been functioning since Obama got there, right?  Well, Jarrett has not accepted this role of Bill Daley.  She considers herself the defacto president.  She is…how was it put before – she is “Obama’s brain”.  In the Obama White House, you have the Oval Office, and you have Jarrett’s office on the second floor.  That second floor office has been where the real power has resided.  That is no exaggeration.  Jarrett has people around the Oval Office who report back to her.  Everything.  She sets the agenda and that agenda is sent directly to the president, who more often than not, never questions it.  And as Jarrett assumed more control over the day to day operations of the West Wing, the president happily backed away. He had little interest in policy.  He had even less interest in the work to form that policy.  As long as he “looks good” – that’s all that matters to him, right?  I know I’m repeating myself a bit here, but I’m getting to it.

So inside that White House, you have these little sub groups right?  Each of those groups reports to Jarrett.  She oversees everything.  Everything.  That is, until Bill Daley arrived.  Bill started to assert himself. He’s the White House Chief of Staff for -expletive- sakes!  He started to bring power back to the first floor of the West Wing, and leave Jarrett more isolated in her second floor office.  Jarrett pushed back.  Daley took it. Jarrett complained to Michelle.  Michelle stood down.  She got word to back the -expletive- off and that is what she did.  So this situation finally reached a climax recently – Valerie Jarrett lost it.  I don’t have the specifics of the meeting, I believe it concerned a staff member, perhaps Geithner…been getting a lot of chatter surrounding Geithner, or what information - whatever it was that set her off. But she lost it.  The lady went ballistic, which I’m pretty certain is just what Daley wanted.  Something was to have come to her first.  An agenda, a meeting plan – something along those lines.  Daley froze her out.  She was left upstairs while the meeting took place.  Staff were instructed – directly instructed, to leave her out of it.  Word got back to Jarrett of course.  And so, she summoned Daley to her office.  Now understand, officially, Valerie Jarrett is a senior adviser, right?  That’s her position.  She’s not the White House Chief of Staff.  That position, if held by someone who knows how to fully utilize the power inherent in that position…that’s a powerful spot.  Bill Daley knows that kind of power, and he knows how to use it against a creature like Valerie -expletive- Jarrett.  So Jarrett summons Daley to her office.  She waits while he is supposed to make the trip upstairs to see her.

Daley blows her off.  Ignores her.  Now I’m sitting here telling you this knowing you can’t fully appreciate just how satisfying it was for me to first hear that.  Jarrett starts asking staff why Daley has not made the meeting.  She calls down to Daley’s office and gets the run around.  Classic West Wing politicking but being played this time by a guy who really knows how to pull it off.  Jarrett refuses to go down to Daley’s office – and by now she’s letting certain staff know she’s not happy about being ignored.  Normally, people cross Valerie Jarrett and they are gone.  Not this time though.  Daley has support far greater than Valerie Jarrett’s relationship to the Obamas.  They need him, and he knows that.  And when Bill Daley leaves that White House, it will be on his terms, not theirs.

So Jarrett fires off an email to the First Lady’s office, and within minutes, someone close to the First Lady is in Jarrett’s office, no doubt conspiring.  Now I want you to get this just right, ok?  They were in Jarrett’s office for approximately 12 minutes.  12 minutes.  Make sure you put that in this report.  12 minutes.  The following day another call is made by Jarrett – she personally makes the call, to Daley’s office.  Another request for a meeting.  Again Daley ignores her. Later that same day, Jarrett heads over to the residence.  This would indicate she is meeting with either one or both of the Obamas.  The president was not in the Oval Office that day, and he was not at the White House for about half the day, so it would make sense to assume Jarrett was likely meeting with the First Lady, and I believe the primary reason was the situation with Daley – Jarrett’s anger against Bill Daley.  His alleged disrespect of her.  I assume this because the next morning, the same individual from the First Lady’s office who had visited with Valerie Jarrett, came to Daley’s West Wing office personally.  She was not scheduled and was made to wait, only to later be told Mr. Daley would not be available that day.  When word of this got back to Jarrett she lit into staff – and then she made the trip downstairs.  She didn’t go to Daley’s office though, but to Mastromonaco’s office across the hall.  There was some yelling by Jarrett, some strong profanity…it was heard by staff outside, and then Jarrett left and returned upstairs.  She was visibly upset.  Her office was on edge – the lady was not happy.  Nobody has ever challenged her absolute authority in the White House – until Bill Daley.

That afternoon, a scheduled meeting was held in the Oval Office that included both Bill Daley and Valerie Jarrett.  I don’t know what took place inside that meeting, but whatever it was spilled out to the hall outside the Oval Office near the Roosevelt Room.  Jarrett was heard hissing something to Daley and jabbing her finger at him.  Daley simply turned and began walking back down the hall toward his office as Jarrett stood glaring back at him.  Daley then turned back abruptly and made his way toward Jarrett.  A member of Jarrett’s staff intercepted him and there was some kind of exchange – not heated, their voices were calm, and Daley even laughed with them – like they had shared a joke.  This set off Jarrett, and she flew down the hall – that is how it was described to me exactly – she flew down the hall, and once again she was in Daley’s face pointing at him.  By this time the president’s assistant, a young man by the name of Reggie Love, who has been there from day one I believe, emerged from the Oval Office quarters and made his way toward both Daley and Jarrett.  Now Mr. Love is a big fella.  Large man.  He placed himself between both Jarrett and Daley, and then placed his hand on Daley’s shoulder and shoved him.  Not hard, but hard enough that Daley took a step back.  Bill Daley was heard to tell Mr. Love to “Please back away – now.”  He was calm throughout the altercation.  Jarrett though was still very…vocal in her dissatisfaction with the White House Chief of Staff, and by now a number of staff were in the hall watching all of this unfold.  Oddly enough, no sign of President Obama though, who apparently remained holed up inside the Oval Office, or his study.

After a few more words from Jarrett, Daley turned back around and returned to his office while Jarrett made her way back to the Oval Office with Love.  They were in there for nearly 30 minutes before Bill Daley came down the hall and entered the Oval Office himself and another 20 minutes or so passed before Jarrett emerged alone and headed back upstairs.  It was then 10 or 15 minutes before Daley came out.  He was in a good mood, joking with a member of Plouffe’s staff who he met in the hall.  As they were parting, the First Lady was making her way quickly down the hall toward the Oval Office.  She walked past Daley without acknowledging him, even though it was clearly heard by others that Daley gave her a friendly greeting.  She remained in the Oval Office for no more than a few minutes, though she could be heard shouting right before she came back out – this time with the young man, Mr. Love, walking with her back down the hall.  He was apparently struggling to keep up with the First Lady, who was walking pretty damn fast.  The staff could hear her coming before they saw her.

Now you might think that Daley caught the worst of all of this, but that ain’t it at all.  Later that afternoon, little Valerie made her way down to Daley’s office.  And she waiting outside to see him.  That tells me, Bill Daley got the better of her – she was made to apologize.  Now don’t think Obama was the one who made her do so – he ain’t got the pull or punch to do that.  No, somebody outside the White House, somebody – or maybe more than one, told the Obamas and Jarrett that Bill Daley is to be given the utmost respect.  He called out the real Valerie Jarrett inside the White House.  He showed the staff who she really is.  And he is still there standing.  That message will not be lost to those in and around the West Wing.  It’s a pretty damn remarkable turn of events.  I probably ain’t doing it justice in my telling of it, but it’s huge. Rahm was pushed out like a dog.  Bill Daley is still holding strong.

Don’t think Jarrett is giving up though.  That lady will fight back.  Bet on it.  Obama is gonna be on the road campaigning 24/7 in the coming months, leaving Jarrett and Daley to square off in creating policy.  Those two are gonna be at each other’s throats.  My money’s on Bill Daley.  If he can help send Jarrett packing, he will be doing this country a huge favor.  Huge.

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Let's talk about the weather... / Re: Israel and the weather -
« on: May 20, 2011, 11:16:56 AM »
The Islamic world's preoccupation is and has always been the annihilation of Israel. Much of the world in general joins them in this wish. We as a nation have just officially joined the world and Islam. This is very bad news for us. There is much to watch for in the coming days. I could not be more serious when I say to you all: Get ready.

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Let's talk about the weather... / Re: Israel and the weather -
« on: May 19, 2011, 02:22:56 PM »
http://http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/19/obamas-mideast-speech-offers-punishment-praise/

Well, if there is anything to it, then we can soon expect a major smack down - on top of the flooding and tornado's we've already seen.  Might be a good time to stock pile some emergency goods.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: My heart and soul are breaking
« on: May 14, 2011, 11:28:01 AM »
http://http://youtu.be/H17edn_RZoY
I've seen Love from both sides now - its everywhere - Amen - bow-wow.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What is a parent to do?
« on: April 25, 2011, 07:58:21 PM »
I once bought these dvds: http://http://www.escapemeth.com/
Not saying there was an instant cure or anything ridiculous like that, but there is little doubt they did help.  I have to admit I have not seen them and have no idea what is portrayed. They vanished from the house as soon as they arrived - and then the comments started coming in from various kids - where did you get those? Why did you buy those? Man that really freaked me out - and some of those kids worked hard to get off the shit.

Going strictly on your sons height and weight and drug use - I'd argue he is committing passive suicide - and I'd argue it loudly to the mental health department and the social workers. To be blunt - they need to be afraid he'll end up dead and you'll have a civil case.  Getting him in a hospital won't cure him, but it will get him a good look over and one hopes in a situation where he will be able to gain some body weight and health back; also it might result in getting him connected with a therapist he'll be willing to work with.

There are plenty of successes in substance abuse. I have a cousin who was a "hopeless" drunk - he says one night as he was picking discarded wine bottles off the street and sucking the last few drops from them and realized "I really do have a problem"  - and he quite drinking. You'd never know he was the same guy today.  But it was his decision and this is the key.  What I like about Recovery Options is it offers real options - and sometimes this is what a person needs - not everyone responds to "meetings"; and it is always better if the patent feels they have some say and control in how their problem is treated.

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