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Not sure if I could dedicate the time to monitor and organize the responses.  I have applied these steps in industry and the results are amazing.  The key to success, for me, was to
define the problem very carefully and focus on getting to root cause at all times and constantly refer back to the problem statement (step 1) to insure all our energy is focused tightly on the problem defined.  I think Antigen would be great for this, someone who is able to see the larger picture and willing to consider all solutions even if they seem far fetched or too simplistic because they are sometimes the ones that end up solving the issues.

Antigen, Great post, If Problem solving techniques were used then some measurable headway could be made on the various issues.  To spend time and energy trying to discredit people or put them in jail can bring some real satisfying short term satisfaction but never addresses the issues.  Its like busting the drug dealers.  The cops feel good, take pictures of each other holding the stash, maybe get a promotion, but we all know it doesnt put a dent in stopping people from doing drugs.
You hit it on the head when you said "Right now, those of us who at least recognize that we've got a big problem on our hands are at the point of just trying to get the rest of us to recognize that there is, indeed, a fucking problem".  So based on pure problem solving tools:
Step 1 -- Recognize there is a problem and Define the problem (really boil it down to one sentence, write it down. i.e. Kids being sent to TBS ) This will take a lot of discussion and maybe weeks.
Step 2 Determine root cause (What is causing this to happen? Make sure you are staying focused on the proplem as it is written, it is very easy to wander off track. Uninformed parents, kids taking drugs, schools systems suck etc.)  This could take time to determine.  Its nice to have only one cause but sometimes there are many.
Step 3 Make a list of solutions (all of them).  Educate parents, educate kids, shut down the schools, let the air out of the vehicles that take the kids away etc.  Rate the hundreds of solutions and pick the top ones.
Step 4  Impliment Solutions (Impliment the top solutions)
Step 5 Measure your Success or failure (Very difficult sometimes)
Step 6 Adjust and go back to Step 3.

If these steps are followed practically any problem could be solved eventually.

The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / Hidden Lake academy
« on: August 31, 2005, 01:54:00 PM »
Sorry you took it wrong (was'nt responding to Dan's post).  My point is the money isnt a factor.  If the programs charged $10.00 per week there would still be people who have to borrow money from family and friends to attend and at that rate ($10/week) the waiting list may be very long so some parents may call up and say they are willing to pay $12/Week if they could take their kid sooner so the new price would be $12/week and so on until it levels out at the price people are willing to pay.  The consumers set the price, not the schools!!

The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / Hidden Lake academy
« on: August 31, 2005, 12:48:00 PM »
Why are people so hung up on the cost?  $75,000,$100,000 is nothing to some people.  If people are not willing to pay that much the price will go down and level off at the point where the school is at or above capacity.  The drug cartels in south america and elswhere are living large because we are willing to pay.  If we stopped or slowed down the price would drop, the price of oil, same thing etc.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Concern for a "student"
« on: August 15, 2005, 01:42:00 PM »
Dysfunction thats what our systems is based on.  Look at the price of gas and Exxon mobile is having record profits.  If we still continue to fill up our cars at the same rate the price will continue to rise, if we cut back the price will drop.
If TBS's want to charge $10,000 per day, let them.  Its not alot of money for some people and people who cant afford it would move on to other alternatives.  Bottom line is the price is set by what people are willing to pay, not by the companies doing the selling.

« on: August 10, 2005, 02:07:00 PM »
Craig -- Its good to hear some of the success stories of kids who completed the programs and are moving forward with their lives.  Ashley seems to be adjusting well.  Dont be discouraged by some of the other responses.

The Troubled Teen Industry / State Liscene? NO Problem!
« on: August 02, 2005, 12:10:00 PM »
I am curious as to what motivates a school to get licensed and what advantages does a license offer a school?

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