On 2005-12-02 17:57:00, marcwordsmith wrote:
"Thank you Walter, Ja Long, Marshall, Greg, Stripe, Ginger, and anyone else who took the time to read my account. I had written about the Seed a few times in my twenties. The online piece is a synthesis of those writings, with some editing and a little extra commentary to bring it up to date.
It means a lot to me that people on this web site have read it. I was going to announce it in this forum, but for some reason I hesitated. I'm glad though that people found it.
Ja Long, I'm sorry it brought back painful memories. I have read about some of the horrors you suffered in particular, and I want to say I'm deeply sorry for what you endured, and I marvel at your spirit. Marshall, I know what you mean by "sick, unsettled feeling." Well put."
On 2005-12-03 03:39:00, TRUCKER wrote:
"A good article! However, for every negative there is a positive. I am pretty sure that my 18 months at the mind controlling Seed was much better than the 20 years at florida's hotel at Raiford. What do ya think? Its to bad we all dont live in countries like singapore where programs like the Seed dont exist.Its was such a terrible thing! I really hate what the Seed did for me.I am so glad for this site because it reminds me how bad my life has been ruined because someone cared. :wink:
TRUCKER"
On 2005-12-02 20:50:00, landyh wrote:
I only bring this up because no matter how accurate my depiction of some of the positive aspects of my first time around I am beginning to find here something of myself that was lost.
On 2005-12-03 09:09:00, GregFL wrote:
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On 2005-12-02 20:50:00, landyh wrote:
I only bring this up because no matter how accurate my depiction of some of the positive aspects of my first time around I am beginning to find here something of myself that was lost.
Then this site is dedicated to you Landy and all like you (us) who want/need to put this experience into proper focus.
Just where does it belong in the history of our lives? Just what really happened...negative, positive or neutral? Were we really "saved" or were we conditioned to believe an urban myth, that we were dying? Did we need addiction treatment? Was this treatment secondary to other techniques used? What were those techniques? Why were we seperated from TV and the news? Our families? Were we "loved" or were we part of a group dynamic that used "love" as a binding force and a weapon of exclusion? Was this "love" different than real world capital L love? Just where did these techniques come from, and where have they gone? And on and on...the subject matter is captivating and also sometimes a bit disturbing.
It is a fascinating journey thru self-realization that you are now a part of. We are all glad you are here as well.
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On 2005-12-02 20:50:00, landyh wrote:
While the digging itself is painful to question things as I thought they were I have some hope in that darkness cannot exist in light.
The Mann family was only one of a host of influential voices being raised against the traditional reading instructions in the most literate nation on earth.
John Taylor Gatto
The threats, made regularly by staff, of being sent to some hardcore prisons where you would almost be certainly beaten and raped was part of the implied violence made by staff that we discussed in other threads.
On 2005-12-03 03:39:00, TRUCKER wrote:
I am pretty sure that my 18 months at the mind controlling Seed was much better than the 20 years at florida's hotel at Raiford. What do ya think?
Its to bad we all dont live in countries like singapore where programs like the Seed dont exist.
The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.
O'Brien, the apparatchik
On 2005-12-03 12:56:00, GregFL wrote:
These frightening scare tactics did more to make people have the 'three day miracle' than anything else. In reality, the 20 year in raiford scare was highly unlikely, unless you were sentenced to the seed for shooting someone in an armed robbery.
Anyone?
Our country has deliberately undertaken a great social and economic experimanet, noble in motive and far-reaching in purpose. [The Eighteenth Amendment, enacting Prohibition.]
Letter to Senator W.H. Borah
--Herbert Hoover (Feb 28, 1928)
Its to bad we all dont live in countries like singapore where programs like the Seed dont exist.
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Took the words right out of my mouth, Ginger. Singapore itself is like one big Seed program in many ways. Internet censorhip, media censorhip, public whipping for spitting chewing gum on the sidewalk. I don't see where the government of Singapore would have any objection at all to seed-type programs...as long as they were sufficiently 'patriotic'.
http://www.newsintercom.org/index.php?itemid=280 (http://www.newsintercom.org/index.php?itemid=280)
"In a way, the world-view of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird."
- George Orwell, 1984